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Re: Best-kept ham equipment secret?

 

MAN! Do I agree!! Been a long time since Heathkit released the 2m
handheld with a mobile dock!!!
Too bad the PD and FD wore out the idea by constantly tearing
them up in the commercial market
Jack


Snipet reply from Japanese outlet Fw: FT817

g0vgz
 

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Hi all just had this reply on a couple of questions from Japanese emporium. de John.
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----- Original Message -----
To: g0vgz
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: FT817

Thank you very much for your enquiry regarding NEW YEASU Performance 'FT-817'...
First at all, we have noticed from Yaesu Corporation that they will put FT-817 by the end of this mounth
in Japan. Couple days ago,We have informed that the retail price is 79,800YEN including the rubber duck
(50,144,430MHZ in one piece).
Unfortunatly, we had no chance to test this rig yet, but we believe that FT-817 is as well as FT-100 or
little bit better.
The battery is UM-3(LR-6) type and it needs 8 pieces(DC12V).
Battery consumption by RX is 0.48A and TX is 1.8A/h.
Regarding the connector, both SO239 and BNC cover the all band and each connector is programmable
in the rig.
The phone output level is lower than speaker level.
Yes.your are right.The digital mode on PSK31 is workable on both SSB and FM mode.
Since reliese this new portable rig, there is great impact on the amatuer radio market and we have already
a lot of purchasing reservation from our great cosutomers.
Please feel free to contact us, if you and your friends are thinking to buy this 'NEW MODEL'
We are sure that we can offer you the best price.
?
Sincerely yours
?
K.Matsuura
Office Manager
----- Original Message -----
From: g0vgz
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 8:46 AM
Subject: FT817

Hello, Thank you for pictures of Ft817 on ur website its given the western world the only info on the rig. Could you tell me what your overall impressions of the rig is ? whats the performance compared to the FT100 / IC706IIG receiver wise ?
How is the overall battery consumption rx/tx?
Does the bnc and SO239 cover all bands on both front and rear ?
is the rubber duck in one piece ?
Is the SP/PH SP-PH socket an equaliser between headphones and external speaker ?
Does the Digital mode on PKS31 also work on ssb /fm speech rx ?
Sorry lots of questions ,? Thanks for a great information outlet
?
Best regards John G0VGZ qth Durham N.E. England.


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Patrick J Benda
 

Still digging in the Japanese brochure
IF look like 68.33 MHz for cw,am,fm,ssb
10.7 MHz for wfm
455khz
Also for all I will be returning to the chagos archipelago in the winter
for a four month stay.If you are interested look for me at the bottom of
the cw bands as VQ9PO.
73 de Patrick W3PO/VQ9PO/ex:F6DWY
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Re: Digest Number 18

Paul R. Valko
 

Oh! sorry Paul I forgot , 50amp ? is this why the FCC back-heeled it
because the company should have printed 50watts on the Arganaut ?
huh... actually I typed, "50 amp" but you're right! There still should
have been a capital W after the 50. I think I was still laughing. :-)

Ten*Tec made a 50 WATT amp. It was called a Model 409. You can see one
in my website museum.

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Re: Digest Number 18

Paul R. Valko
 

Glad you did not take offense John! I am still chuckling over it a few
hours later. Here in the US there is another odd term we hear in the
media frequently... a high-powered assault rifle! Like there's such a
thing as a LOW POWER assault rifle...

Now some gun fanatic will tell us all there is... but the point is
mute. When the bullets fly, I'll take a high powered assault rifle.

We will keep everyone informed on this rig and trust you blokes will do
the same. My mother came to the US from Blackpool in 1955. We may take
her back for a visit this next spring/summer.

73! =paul= W8KC
Collector of Ten*Tecs and other fine plastics.
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Bit quiet on our msgs isnt it ?

 

My, its a bit quiet on the FT817 egroup front isnt it ? ever since
Paul W8KC suggested everyone to calm down by stop jumping up & down &
getting Yaesu to dump a couple of hundred $ on the price. I honestly
dont think it works this way Paul. I beleive that all the singing &
dancing excitement within this group can only justify Yaesu to export
the thing in the first place. (They originally manufactured it for
their market only !, being staunch montain back-packers in Japan) It
was
I take to be a thank you to their home buyers of Yaesu. But maybe I
am wrong, with such a product it must put Icom, Kenwood and maybe
Alinco scratching/banging their designer's heads together. Maybe the
other big boys have something similair but have been pipped to the
post? I for one know the current price of the Yen to the english
pound and if I find the price being near the ?1k mark as one
retailer
over here in the UK suggested (a profit of about 100% +) I will not
buy one, also the way the market with Amateur radio is going in
general I think ALL Emporiums worldwide should think before they
release a ridiculous seling price to us lot. after all the FT817 is a
qrp rig and I am sure the dedicated qrp lads would rather buy one of
those Australian hand held 160-10m rugged thingys (ssb/cw only) and
use their other 6/2/70 seperate gear than be ripped off by a Ham
retailer, or stick to building their own, as the qrp home-brew gear
is simpler & cheap!. We all know the approx cost of this rig and I am
sure its
worth a couple of hundred $ / ? on the Japanese price but thats
all. I also wish JA1MP was around to view the technology he
originally pioneered, (SSB & founder of Yaesu).
de John.


Re: Digest Number 18

 

Oh! sorry Paul I forgot , 50amp ? is this why the FCC back-heeled it
because the company should have printed 50watts on the Arganaut ?
or is it because ur typing this while you are stamping on ur anti-
skid/anti-lock brakes, typing ur reply while mobile ??

(Ha ha ha ha just thought id get my own back Hi! see you soon Cheers
Paul de John)


Re: Digest Number 18

 

Sorry Paul, You know what I'm getting at though, probably the mad
thing about my request is that we are waiting for a qrp rig to show
(who needs a linear) I'm sure I dont but I am curious if there is
such a thing. (My msg did mean more of an all band more than mode Hi!
Anyhow I hope you US Hams are going to post all ur findings on the
thing when you receive your rigs now the FCC has passed its approval.
(The EU stamp of approval over will probably hum & har for a few
month & we'll end up with a rig covered in all sorts of screening
tape etc yuk!.
de John G0VGZ Thundery Durham NE England.

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-- In FT817@..., "Paul R. Valko" <prvalko@o...> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 g0vgz@i... wrote:

Isnt there someone out there who knows of a say 50w
all band/mode linear driven by 1-5 watts for variable output ?
heh heh heh

Cute. An all mode linear. Is that like non-skid anti-lock brakes?

Ten Tec used to make a 50 amp for the Argonaut rigs. If I recall,
our FCC
made things like that illegal to be sold in the USA. Seems that
they were
really popular with the 27 MHz crowd.

Cheers.

73! =paul= W8KC
Collector of Ten*Tecs and other fine plastics.
Visit the Virtual Ten*Tec Museum at:
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Re: Amp

Mike Maiorana
 

QST March and April 1999. 1 watt in, 50-60 out.
I built one and it works well. On the other hand, I hardly ever use it.
5 watts is almost always enough (except for SSB when you are down in the
noise). Remember, that's only around 10db (5 watts to 50 watts). So if
you are 10 over 9 with the amp on, you will still be S9 with the amp off
(assuming the S meter is calibrated).
73
Mike Maiorana, KU4QO

g0vgz@... wrote:

Doesnt look like there is provision for a snap on batt/amp pack on
the rear Paul, Isnt there someone out there who knows of a say 50w
all band/mode linear driven by 1-5 watts for variable output ?


Re: Digest Number 18

Paul R. Valko
 

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000 g0vgz@... wrote:

Isnt there someone out there who knows of a say 50w
all band/mode linear driven by 1-5 watts for variable output ?
heh heh heh

Cute. An all mode linear. Is that like non-skid anti-lock brakes?

Ten Tec used to make a 50 amp for the Argonaut rigs. If I recall, our FCC
made things like that illegal to be sold in the USA. Seems that they were
really popular with the 27 MHz crowd.

Cheers.

73! =paul= W8KC
Collector of Ten*Tecs and other fine plastics.
Visit the Virtual Ten*Tec Museum at:
<>


Re: Digest Number 18

 

Doesnt look like there is provision for a snap on batt/amp pack on
the rear Paul, Isnt there someone out there who knows of a say 50w
all band/mode linear driven by 1-5 watts for variable output ?

--- In FT817@..., "Paul Gerhardt" <pgerhardt@h...> wrote:


Message: 2
?? Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:23:35 -0400
?? From: "Cameron C.R. Bailey" <cbailey@w...>
Subject: Re: A new industry trend?

Roger on the receiver!!
That is where the rubber meets the road. (Sorry, tires are in the
news
too
much lately.)

I wish that docking would take place with rigs.? I would have
thought
that
by now, there would be a 2m HT radio that slid into either a front
panel
or
microphone which then is really two radios, portable and mobile.
Put a decent receiver in the module and then a small
exciter/modulator
that
would either excite a 5 W HT brick or a 50 W mobile amp.

kt3a

After having the Yaesu FT-290MKII/690/790 series of radios I was
somewhat
suprised that the design of the FT-817 was not similar. The
docking mobile
amp and snap on low pwr bat pack is really a cool setup and works
very well
as a mobile/shoulder pack QRP set up. Of course it is similar to
the MK1
series with the internal battery pack and all. Makes me wonder if
there
will later be some snap on pack of C cells or larger and 50-100
mobile
docking amp of some sort. That would be VERY COOL in my book.
Think I'll
sign up and get one of the first ones anyway though!!

Paul Gerhardt
K3PG
Centreville MD

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Re: FCC APPROVAL HORRAY

gary mitchelson
 

Where did you see it?

--- In FT817@..., "Howard Z" <howardzz@h...> wrote:


Looking on the FCC computer today I see that the FT-817 received
its
approval this morning , shouldn't be long now
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FCC APPROVAL HORRAY

Howard Z
 

Looking on the FCC computer today I see that the FT-817 received its approval this morning , shouldn't be long now
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Re: Suggested options

 

Good suggestion Gary only I found my atas a bit slow they will have
to insert some horse muck to speed it up hi!

--- In FT817@..., "Gary Mitchelson" <n3jpu@e...> wrote:
How about a 5 W version of the ATAS-100 (ATAS-5 ?) driven by the
817?
It could be made much smaller and portable.

Gary
N3JPU


Re: Digest Number 18

 

Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 18:23:35 -0400
From: "Cameron C.R. Bailey" <cbailey@...>
Subject: Re: A new industry trend?

Roger on the receiver!!
That is where the rubber meets the road. (Sorry, tires are in the news
too
much lately.)

I wish that docking would take place with rigs. I would have thought
that
by now, there would be a 2m HT radio that slid into either a front panel
or
microphone which then is really two radios, portable and mobile.
Put a decent receiver in the module and then a small exciter/modulator
that
would either excite a 5 W HT brick or a 50 W mobile amp.

kt3a

After having the Yaesu FT-290MKII/690/790 series of radios I was somewhat suprised that the design of the FT-817 was not similar. The docking mobile amp and snap on low pwr bat pack is really a cool setup and works very well as a mobile/shoulder pack QRP set up. Of course it is similar to the MK1 series with the internal battery pack and all. Makes me wonder if there will later be some snap on pack of C cells or larger and 50-100 mobile docking amp of some sort. That would be VERY COOL in my book. Think I'll sign up and get one of the first ones anyway though!!

Paul Gerhardt
K3PG
Centreville MD

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Suggested options

Gary Mitchelson
 

How about a 5 W version of the ATAS-100 (ATAS-5 ?) driven by the 817?
It could be made much smaller and portable.

Gary
N3JPU


Re: English info

Paul R. Valko
 

Hi Mike!

I knew you were out there. Looks like Yaesu has another winner in the
works, eh?

It would be a great benefit for the US hams that have NEVER been QRP
before to receive in the package some information about QRP operation.
Perhaps something from QRP-ARCI, The Michgan QRP Club, Norcal, etc.

Anyways... the joke on the repeater is that I'll get one first (I am the
most active QRP op in our 250 member club). Our club's email reflector
has already been peppered, by me, with info and pictures :-)

73! =paul= W8KC
Collector of Ten*Tecs and other fine plastics.
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Mike Krueger wrote:


The FT-817 does indeed cover the 6 meter (50-54MHz) band. That is a typo on
the web page, which will be corrected presently.

73,
Mike



----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Gauss <w8cbr@...>
To: <FT817@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:51
Subject: Re: [FT817] English info



I guess it hasn't been a secret but I didn't realize until
I read this page that the 817 does NOT cover 6 meters.

This will be a bummer to those VHF ops planning to take it
hilltoping during contests, and assumed, as I did, that it
was like a QRP FT-100.

Bob

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GO BILLS!


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Robert Gauss
 

Sorry for causing a panic.

The 160-10 + 2 & 70cm in the text was confirmed as a typo.

I guess either I was the only one wearing specs and saw it
or everyone who saw it ignored it.

We can all feel better now.

Bob

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Sorry Bob W8CBR

 

That wasnt meant to be fascicius remark (sure ive mispelt that word)
about putting ur specs on hi!! but as the rest say it does cover 6 as
you will be aware after everyone in the group sends u a reply (please
dont lads I think Bob knows now) and It will only clog our pages up.
Incidentally it has got a door release on bottom of case for easy
battery access. And can the lads at Yaesu USA get a deciphered spec
page for us all to browse ?? even if its the sensitivity values etc
Please ??
I am thinking the rubber duck looks like it comes in 2 parts if so
can Yaesu tech team design some seperate add on middle bits to cover
individual hf bands with tightly wound coils ?? sure it'll be an
extra revenue , maybe do it in a full add - on pack with 9 extra
wound hf band resonant sticks. If u do not im sure I will wind my own
Sure they will be restricted but it will be fun on a hill-top or
somewhere.Maybe something on the line of the outbacker ie. 1 piece
with seperate resonant tapping points , just to place in between
bottom & top piece.
de John