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Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

There is a new IO group made for the FTX-1F.
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73' Ron
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Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

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There is a fairly good video on YouTube right now showing it at the Tokyo ham fair. They were able to video the front and back of the radio, looks like the video captures the AMU and cooling fan unit. ?Looks to be about the same size as an IC 705.?

Kevin Mullens


On Aug 25, 2024, at 08:48, Lawrence (VA3IQ) via groups.io <ldobranski@...> wrote:

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AE5X has posted some of the new FTX-1F that are very promising as to the radio's features (YMMV -- just my observations):
  • A tuner/linear jack that is used to drive the optional automatic antenna tuner. ?If this is the same as mini din on the 817ND/818 this would provide a voltage encoded band data and a transmit inhibit connections;
  • Separate antenna connections for HF/50 MHz and 144/440 MHz antennas;
    A GPS connection. ?Now is that for an optional antenna in or a serial GPS NEMA stream out or in? ?No sign of a 10 MHz GPDSO reference;?
  • It apparently has full dual receivers with two speakers. This will allow it to be used as a satellite receiver for V/U, U/V;
  • Looks like the same form factor as the FTM-500; and,
  • Has a mount on the base of the unit (missing from the FTM-500).

73 de VA3IQ

Lawrence


Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

AE5X has posted some of the new FTX-1F that are very promising as to the radio's features (YMMV -- just my observations):
  • A tuner/linear jack that is used to drive the optional automatic antenna tuner. ?If this is the same as mini din on the 817ND/818 this would provide a voltage encoded band data and a transmit inhibit connections;
  • Separate antenna connections for HF/50 MHz and 144/440 MHz antennas;
    A GPS connection. ?Now is that for an optional antenna in or a serial GPS NEMA stream out or in? ?No sign of a 10 MHz GPDSO reference;?
  • It apparently has full dual receivers with two speakers. This will allow it to be used as a satellite receiver for V/U, U/V;
  • Looks like the same form factor as the FTM-500; and,
  • Has a mount on the base of the unit (missing from the FTM-500).

73 de VA3IQ

Lawrence


Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

My guess is that it will be priced below the Icom IC-705 because there is no WiFi, Bluetooth and GPS on board. It does however have FT-101 sdr architecture on-board. The Xiegu X-6200 is a bit cheaper, but has no VHF/UHF implemented. I have made a pre-order as my FT-817 is almost 20 years old, but has never let me down.
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73' Ron
ON2RON
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Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

Nor 70MHz for UK and a growing number of countries that allow 4m tx operation.
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Graham G4FUJ


Re: Yaesu FT-817

 

I will check it out. Thank you sir.

On Saturday, August 24, 2024 at 10:15:41 AM PDT, William Shadid <w9mxq@...> wrote:


Check out the Heil BM17SDYN. You will need a Yaesu Adapter (also from Heil).
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73, Bill, W9MXQ


Re: Yaesu FT-817

 

Check out the Heil BM17SDYN. You will need a Yaesu Adapter (also from Heil).
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73, Bill, W9MXQ


Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

I purchased my FT-818ND in February 2019 for 2840PLN (polish zloty). I cannot find what was the exact exchange ratio between PLN and USD, but it was about 4-4.5, so we have about $630-710, and additionally I used Yaesu 50 EUR cashback.

Jacek SP5OSF


W dniu 24.08.2024 o?16:00, Ken N2VIP pisze:

The FT-818 when it was discontinued in Dec of 2022 was much closer to the initial FT-817 price from 2001 of $670 that it is to $1,200 today.

I can't find hard numbers, but I think the FT-818 was always less than $750, but I could be mistaken.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 24, 2024, at 06:57, Jeff <jcowall@...> wrote:

?The 817 was $670 at its introduction in 2001, that's around $1200 today (). About the price of a midrange gaming computer.






Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

I hope that it provides a transmitter-inhibit input pin, and band data.? It will be a great radio for my VHF/UHF/SHF Rover station.
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Too bad it does not have 222 MHz.? :-(
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DE VA3IQ
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Lawrence


Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

The FT-818 when it was discontinued in Dec of 2022 was much closer to the initial FT-817 price from 2001 of $670 that it is to $1,200 today.

I can't find hard numbers, but I think the FT-818 was always less than $750, but I could be mistaken.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 24, 2024, at 06:57, Jeff <jcowall@...> wrote:

?The 817 was $670 at its introduction in 2001, that's around $1200 today (). About the price of a midrange gaming computer.





Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

The 817 was $670 at its introduction in 2001, that's around $1200 today (). About the price of a midrange gaming computer.


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We’re an hour ahead of Tokyo and a day ahead of North American, so have already seen some photos taken by attendees at the THF.
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It is a SDR, similar form factor to the the IC705 i.e it resembles a remote head that belongs to another radio.
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It has a dual receiver and a large battery on the back, the battery can be removed and a tuner clipped in it’s place, and if you need it, a fan module can clip in where the battery was then the tuner can sit on top of the fan unit.
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There is a strong “brand” look to it – aspects of the FTM500, FT991A and FTDX10 make the unit look familiar to Yaesu users.
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I look forward to seeing it in the flesh and hearing what the new owners have to report next year.
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73 Steve VK2ARS
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From: Richard Fenech
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2024 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ft817] FT-817 Replacement
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Good to know if it's the same technology as it's predecessors (891, 991). Maybe just an external package upgrade and a colour display!?!?


On Fri, 23 Aug 2024, 22:49 Kevin - K5KTM via , <Ktmullens@...> wrote:
I’m going to go out on a limb and say it looks like it is built in the FTM-500DR chassis and will be dimensionally identical.?
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Kevin Mullens
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On Aug 23, 2024, at 15:26, Scott McDonald via <Ka9p=[email protected]> wrote:

?It might be fun to have a pool on dimensions and weight, especially given that as near as I can tell the depth of the radio can’t be inferred from the size of the display in the pic, as height and width can.
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I won’t complain without seeing one, and as a sometimes traveling satellite guy, I’d pay too much for that feature.?
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But I’m? guessing maybe near a couple kilos with a fan and tuner and battery, and that’s quite a bit.
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But happy to see something’s coming!
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72 Ka9p

On Aug 23, 2024, at 1:39?PM, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:

?It's a 5 minute video of a man reading a web page describing a product he's never seen...
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Thanks, but... it's like an unboxing video, except the podcaster doesn't have the radio in front of them to actually 'unbox'
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I can predict the complaints already:
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- power consumption (9 hours in 6 min transmit, 6 min receive, 48 min standby hours, so the battery is good for 1 hour (continuous) transmit, one hour receive, and seven hours squelched/muted standby?)
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- active cooling availability hints strongly at overheating issues
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- price - I think we're looking at a $1,500-$1,700 list price radio here... (comparable to IC-705 at $1,350)
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This so-called "FT-817/818 replacement" really looks more like a low-power FT-991a with a battery pack & second receiver - all good, but not really a $700 FT-818 replacement.
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We'll see how it plays out as we approach its "early 2025" release date.
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Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 23, 2024, at 11:11, Bob AF9W <af9w@...> wrote:

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Check out the video of the FTX-1F.
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Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

It's an SDR radio, neither the 991a nor the 891 are SDRs, so not the same technology.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 24, 2024, at 00:39, Richard Fenech <richard9h1rf@...> wrote:

Good to know if it's the same technology as it's predecessors (891, 991). Maybe just an external package upgrade and a colour display!?!?


Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

Good to know if it's the same technology as it's predecessors (891, 991). Maybe just an external package upgrade and a colour display!?!?


On Fri, 23 Aug 2024, 22:49 Kevin - K5KTM via , <Ktmullens=[email protected]> wrote:
I’m going to go out on a limb and say it looks like it is built in the FTM-500DR chassis and will be dimensionally identical.?

Kevin Mullens


On Aug 23, 2024, at 15:26, Scott McDonald via <Ka9p=[email protected]> wrote:

?It might be fun to have a pool on dimensions and weight, especially given that as near as I can tell the depth of the radio can’t be inferred from the size of the display in the pic, as height and width can.

I won’t complain without seeing one, and as a sometimes traveling satellite guy, I’d pay too much for that feature. ?

But I’m ?guessing maybe near a couple kilos with a fan and tuner and battery, and that’s quite a bit.

But happy to see something’s coming!

72 Ka9p

On Aug 23, 2024, at 1:39?PM, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:

?It's a 5 minute video of a man reading a web page describing a product he's never seen...

Thanks, but... it's like an unboxing video, except the podcaster doesn't have the radio in front of them to actually 'unbox'

I can predict the complaints already:

- power consumption (9 hours in 6 min transmit, 6 min receive, 48 min standby hours, so the battery is good for 1 hour (continuous) transmit, one hour receive, and seven hours squelched/muted standby?)

- active cooling availability hints strongly at overheating issues

- price - I think we're looking at a $1,500-$1,700 list price radio here... (comparable to IC-705 at $1,350)

This so-called "FT-817/818 replacement" really looks more like a low-power FT-991a with a battery pack & second receiver - all good, but not really a $700 FT-818 replacement.

We'll see how it plays out as we approach its "early 2025" release date.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 23, 2024, at 11:11, Bob AF9W <af9w@...> wrote:

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Check out the video of the FTX-1F.
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say it looks like it is built in the FTM-500DR chassis and will be dimensionally identical.?

Kevin Mullens


On Aug 23, 2024, at 15:26, Scott McDonald via groups.io <Ka9p@...> wrote:

?It might be fun to have a pool on dimensions and weight, especially given that as near as I can tell the depth of the radio can’t be inferred from the size of the display in the pic, as height and width can.

I won’t complain without seeing one, and as a sometimes traveling satellite guy, I’d pay too much for that feature. ?

But I’m ?guessing maybe near a couple kilos with a fan and tuner and battery, and that’s quite a bit.

But happy to see something’s coming!

72 Ka9p

On Aug 23, 2024, at 1:39?PM, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:

?It's a 5 minute video of a man reading a web page describing a product he's never seen...

Thanks, but... it's like an unboxing video, except the podcaster doesn't have the radio in front of them to actually 'unbox'

I can predict the complaints already:

- power consumption (9 hours in 6 min transmit, 6 min receive, 48 min standby hours, so the battery is good for 1 hour (continuous) transmit, one hour receive, and seven hours squelched/muted standby?)

- active cooling availability hints strongly at overheating issues

- price - I think we're looking at a $1,500-$1,700 list price radio here... (comparable to IC-705 at $1,350)

This so-called "FT-817/818 replacement" really looks more like a low-power FT-991a with a battery pack & second receiver - all good, but not really a $700 FT-818 replacement.

We'll see how it plays out as we approach its "early 2025" release date.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 23, 2024, at 11:11, Bob AF9W <af9w@...> wrote:

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Check out the video of the FTX-1F.
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Re: FT-817 Replacement

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It might be fun to have a pool on dimensions and weight, especially given that as near as I can tell the depth of the radio can’t be inferred from the size of the display in the pic, as height and width can.

I won’t complain without seeing one, and as a sometimes traveling satellite guy, I’d pay too much for that feature. ?

But I’m ?guessing maybe near a couple kilos with a fan and tuner and battery, and that’s quite a bit.

But happy to see something’s coming!

72 Ka9p

On Aug 23, 2024, at 1:39?PM, Ken N2VIP <ken@...> wrote:

?It's a 5 minute video of a man reading a web page describing a product he's never seen...

Thanks, but... it's like an unboxing video, except the podcaster doesn't have the radio in front of them to actually 'unbox'

I can predict the complaints already:

- power consumption (9 hours in 6 min transmit, 6 min receive, 48 min standby hours, so the battery is good for 1 hour (continuous) transmit, one hour receive, and seven hours squelched/muted standby?)

- active cooling availability hints strongly at overheating issues

- price - I think we're looking at a $1,500-$1,700 list price radio here... (comparable to IC-705 at $1,350)

This so-called "FT-817/818 replacement" really looks more like a low-power FT-991a with a battery pack & second receiver - all good, but not really a $700 FT-818 replacement.

We'll see how it plays out as we approach its "early 2025" release date.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 23, 2024, at 11:11, Bob AF9W <af9w@...> wrote:

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Check out the video of the FTX-1F.
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It's a 5 minute video of a man reading a web page describing a product he's never seen...

Thanks, but... it's like an unboxing video, except the podcaster doesn't have the radio in front of them to actually 'unbox'

I can predict the complaints already:

- power consumption (9 hours in 6 min transmit, 6 min receive, 48 min standby hours, so the battery is good for 1 hour (continuous) transmit, one hour receive, and seven hours squelched/muted standby?)

- active cooling availability hints strongly at overheating issues

- price - I think we're looking at a $1,500-$1,700 list price radio here... (comparable to IC-705 at $1,350)

This so-called "FT-817/818 replacement" really looks more like a low-power FT-991a with a battery pack & second receiver - all good, but not really a $700 FT-818 replacement.

We'll see how it plays out as we approach its "early 2025" release date.

Ken, N2VIP

On Aug 23, 2024, at 11:11, Bob AF9W <af9w@...> wrote:

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Check out the video of the FTX-1F.
?


Re: FT-817 Replacement

 

Looks pretty cool but a lot more expensive than just a microphone. Maby some day..?

On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 09:11:15 AM PDT, Bob AF9W <af9w@...> wrote:


Check out the video of the FTX-1F.
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FT-817 Replacement

 

Check out the video of the FTX-1F.
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