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Re: eBay filters

 

The resale price ?for CW filers for Yeasu and Collins is nuts. ?Some people are asking $400. That is the price of the radio. Supply a demand and the demand far outweighs the supply.

We need a solution in the $100 price range …


Re: Flashing Display

 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 06:25 AM, John wrote:
Thanks Andy, there's a lot of useful stuff there.
Thanks.
I just made a few minor tweaks to the text to improve readability too.

73 de Andy G0FTD


Re: Flashing Display

 

Thanks Andy, there's a lot of useful stuff there.

73,

John G4EDX

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 22:45, Andy Foad via <andyfoad=[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 03:56 AM, Jerry Nevins wrote:
I found this tidbit out there:
?
Now at

URL was changed after I had an accidental deletion of the original
website and had to rebuild it.

73 de Andy G0FTD



--
John Fletcher


Re: Flashing Display

 

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 03:56 AM, Jerry Nevins wrote:
I found this tidbit out there:
?
Now at

URL was changed after I had an accidental deletion of the original
website and had to rebuild it.

73 de Andy G0FTD


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

 

TX ERROR message can occur if you try to transmit out of band.
?
Check to see if you have a repeater shift activated.

73 de Andy


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

 

Rami,
Does the display flash at all times or only when you are transmitting?? Have you tried a factory reboot?? See page 76 of the manual.? If you have programmed memories, make a copy before your restore factory defaults.? I use CHIRP for that.? If you don't have a programming cable then simply write everything down.? If that doesn't help, it seems that you may have either an internal connector that is loose or the power supply for the front panel is failing.? The fact that it appears to be normal when you run the power supply to 14 volts makes me think that the power cable is defective/too small/not a good connection.?? If that was the case during transmit the voltage display would vary be a few volts.
I just thought of something.? Is the backlight flashing or the characters in the display?? If it is the backlight, try changing the color.? Menu item 15 to select blue or amber.? I have heard of problems with the backlight before.? If that is what is happening to you, then search for "backlight" in this forum.
--
Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ


Re: Measuring the output power

 

Bernard,

The link works now. Maybe the site was down when I tried it.

Thank you for reaching out!

Fred/N7PN

On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 3:02?PM Ham Radio via <bernard.murphy=[email protected]> wrote:
Fred.

Can you ?try the link ?again?

I deleted the original post because I did not hyperlink the URL. Send me a DM if you still have an issue as the reposted message does work for me.



--
Fred Hules II
(602) 717-0345


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

 

Hi,
I did a quick check of the group and found this:
/g/ft817/topic/44934259
Same symptom, but some interesting responses so take some with a grain of salt.
It sounds like a PLL unlock issue (though for this issue the unit should respond with an UNLOCK error message); that would require alignment (and sufficient test equipment - see the technical supplement).
Since this is occurring on TX only I would look for current starving of the power supply, voltage drop across the power cable, or defective power plug.
It is important that you indicate failure with no battery installed; as I recall my FT-817ND really prefers a battery installed even if the battery does not hold charge.
Lastly you need to do all troubleshooting with a dummy load attached; a 10W dummy can be constructed with common carbon composite resistors in parallel or purchased off eBay for about $20 USD (you might need an adapter/cable to get to PL-259).
Doug. K4DDM.


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

 

I have already said you need to test the radios?
Ref frequency
Dave 2E0DMB


On Wed, 26 Jun 2024, 11:47 Rami Finge via , <ramifinge=[email protected]> wrote:
thanks dear Mick
but when i put 14 volts some bands like vhf and uhf work correctly

Le?mer. 26 juin 2024 à?13:40, Michael Newbury via <michael.newbury=[email protected]> a écrit?:
Seems to me the radio is trying to TX out of band with the TX error flashing on the screen

Mick SA4MDN


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

Rami Finge
 

thanks dear Mick
but when i put 14 volts some bands like vhf and uhf work correctly

Le?mer. 26 juin 2024 à?13:40, Michael Newbury via <michael.newbury=[email protected]> a écrit?:
Seems to me the radio is trying to TX out of band with the TX error flashing on the screen

Mick SA4MDN


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

 

Seems to me the radio is trying to TX out of band with the TX error flashing on the screen

Mick SA4MDN


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

 

Could it be that there's a transmit offset that puts the frequency out of band?

John G4EDX

On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 09:20, Rami Finge via <ramifinge=[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Al
transmiting only on amateur radio frequencies, yes the display flashes, on 11 in the menu i have batt=volt, and pressing F after rotate i can see on the left the voltage 13.1 volts the mode on the right , down chg>volt> DSP, and all the screen flashes and when i transmit it give me tx error, and this is the same in all bands
thanks?
73 Ramy?
OD5SB



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John Fletcher


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

Rami Finge
 

Dear Al
transmiting only on amateur radio frequencies, yes the display flashes, on 11 in the menu i have batt=volt, and pressing F after rotate i can see on the left the voltage 13.1 volts the mode on the right , down chg>volt> DSP, and all the screen flashes and when i transmit it give me tx error, and this is the same in all bands
thanks?
73 Ramy?
OD5SB


Re: Measuring the output power

 

Interesting..


Re: Measuring the output power

 

I designed a QRP SWR and power meter:

https://g8gyw.github.io/

--
Mike G8GYW


Re: my ft 817 flashes unstable

 

Rami,
I still don't understand "bands flashing".?? Are you saying that the display for frequency flashes?? That occurs when you are trying to transmit on a frequency the radio is not programmed to transmit.? However it flashes "TX Error".? Can you enter the display menu 11?? Press the F key once and rotate the select knob (lower left) until the display shows CHG VLT DSP.? Press the B button underneath the display until the voltage appears in the upper left of the display.? What does your radio show?
--
Al Skierkiewicz
WB9UVJ


Re: Measuring the output power

 

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To the original poster (on3plz ?):

I've been following this thread, and maybe I've missed something, but I have a question that I don't see any answers to-? particularly since this is a ft817 group- why do you feel a need to measure power?? I presume it's a measurement at maximum level of 5 watts, or perhaps a bit more- but knowing why you desire to make measurement(s) helps with answering the question:

(a) if you're looking to make some adjustments to "peak" a power output adjustment, it's probably not necessary to accurately measure the actual power level- a simple analog meter (VTVM, or VOM) connected to a signal (or germanium) diode detector that's measuring the voltage across a 47, 50, or 51 ohm non-inductive resistor might be sufficient as it provides a relative measurement, where small changes can be easily observed

but

(b) if you're looking to increase the ft817 power output above 5 watts- I've been told that it can be done- but I suspect that you will be stressing the radio

and

(c) if you're looking to get accurate measurements of power output (to several decimal places) keep in mind that such accuracy is difficult to provide without calibrated instruments and reference elements (for example- dummy load characteristics).

Mike N4MWP

On 6/25/24 16:31, Ham Radio wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

You can build a simple RF probe but you need to calibrate it. ?A simple SWR meter does not measure power over a wide range of frequencies. ?If possible, borrow a Bird 43 wattmeter from a local ham.

You can use that device to calibrate the power of your measurement equipment.

Check out kc9om.com. ?He sells some great kits and gives excellent service.

You can also build own watt meter using a Arduino UNO, a power tap and dummy load

See my rather crude video that I produced 4 years ago to see a demo of a talking watt meter.




Re: Measuring the output power

 

Fred.

Can you ?try the link ?again?

I deleted the original post because I did not hyperlink the URL. Send me a DM if you still have an issue as the reposted message does work for me.


Re: Measuring the output power

 

No multimeters do not measure power.? Nor will they respond to voltage at frequencies? the FT818 will work at.

IMHO all Ham should have a SWR meter and one that is calibrated for power.? It can be useful in many ways, just not monitoring the rig's output, but also aiding in making antennas.

If getting a power meter make sure it is made for the frequency you need.

73, ron, n9ee/r

Ron Wright, N9EE/R
Hernando Co ARES EC
Spring Hill, Florida also n9ee55@...


On Tuesday, June 25, 2024 at 04:05:29 PM EDT, Ham Radio <bernard.murphy@...> wrote:


An RF probe is easy to make but should be calibrated. ?A plain SWR meter does not measure power across a large frequency range. ?Borrow a Bird 43 from a local ham and calibrate your device(s) including a SWR bridge, ?if you have one.


You can also make a watt meter using a Arduino Uno and with a power tap and a dummy load. ?I have built one that speaks and one that generates CW. ?Click on link below for details.

https://youtu.be/RbaCiTmmYDQ?si=1N9Oz01RQD_J1DJ6

Also, check out KC9ON.COM. ? ? ? He sells some very nice kits and is really nice person to deal with.


Re: Measuring the output power

 

Bernard,

The website you provided does not work. Could it be a typo? The call is not good on QRZ.? Maybe the website is no longer around?

Fred/N7PN


On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 1:31?PM Ham Radio via <bernard.murphy=[email protected]> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

You can build a simple RF probe but you need to calibrate it.? A simple SWR meter does not measure power over a wide range of frequencies.? If possible, borrow a Bird 43 wattmeter from a local ham.

You can use that device to calibrate the power of your measurement equipment.

Check out .? He sells some great kits and gives excellent service.

You can also build own watt meter using a Arduino UNO, a power tap and dummy load

See my rather crude video that I produced 4 years ago to see a demo of a talking watt meter.