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Re: Indoor apartment antenna rfi

Tom Newbery
 

Heartily concur wiith those who flee the noise and head for the "quiet" outdoors.I have solar panels with micro-inverters on my roof so I head for the mountains to the access road to Snowbasin Ski Resort, or the parking lot at the beginning of the causeway leading to the Great Salt Lake's Antelop Island.

Tom, KA7MWQ
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On Saturday, June 22, 2019, 10:33:45 PM MDT, Mike-2020@... [FT817] wrote:


?

Concur!? Apartment operation sucks.? The ultimate solution is to move.

Some relief might be had.? Run your radio on battery power and pull your main breaker.? If your noise level is significantly reduced, there may be some relief found in cleaning up your own noise generators.? If the noise remains high, your neighbors are your main noise source.? You might ask them to work with you to reduce noise.? But that can become a problem too.

Although my home location is very quiet, I enjoy portable operations myself.? Just yesterday I was up on the highest summit in Northern Bavaria, making contacts on 40m-30m-20m.? Some of the signals were S-0, but the contact was completed.

Good luck.


Vy73 -- Mike -- DL/KD5KC
Rhon Mountains
Strahlungen Germany




On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 9:26 PM -0600, "af4o@... [FT817]" <FT817@...> wrote:

I hear some have success with a magnetic loop antenna. MFJ has one or you can build. Turn it to null the noise may help. Apartments are a soup of rfi generators. I suspect that there is a way to make an antenna work somewhere in your situation to a certain extent. Do you have a balcony? Move the antenna to different places and try. Geez the way the bands are (lack of sunspots), even those with tower based antennas are finding conditions somewhat challenging.

Consider doing some hamming in the great outdoors. A park away from the rfi can yield a zero noise floor with an antenna thrown up in a tree. Nothing like being in the middle of a local forest or large park away from all noise, you will be amazed at what you can hear.

73

Chuck
AF4O


On 6/22/19 8:36 PM, Randy Davenport pastor.spaceboy@... [FT817] wrote:
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I live in an no outside antenna apartment. I have a loop near the ceiling.? I have s8+ noise on my ft897d.? Any suggestions? 75m-6m
Randy ka4nma


Re: ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

 

All good Mike, just couldn't resist the opportunity - you don't normally leave yourself open like that!

Sounds like it was a great trip that you had - I have only activated in the UK, so returning to EU to get some more hills and associations under the belt is well up on my list of things to do. And of course the trusty FT-817 would be the rig of choice - what else is there that gives you all modes 160m to 70cm in the one radio in such a portable format (be it with a 3S LiFePO4 or even dare I say it a 3S LiPo)!


Matt
VK1MA

-----Original Message-----
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 11:39 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Good evening Matt. Yeah - I see that I cannot spell either! <grin>. MINDS! GREAT MINDS!

In my defense, I am suffering JET LAG from nearly a month in Germany, then two days home, and immediately on to my 4 x 12-hour-night shift rotation. I don't know where I am right now!

I activated 5 SOTA summits while in Europe. Quite an accomplishment, considering the primary mission is to get my wife over to visit her mother as much as possible. My sister-in-law is Dl1NLG, my brother-in-law is DG7NFV. Although they have always supported my SOTA fun, neither is really interested.

Between my 2017 visit and my 2019 visit, my nephew Andreas became DO5AL. Every visit, I attend a joint SOTA activation, followed by a party on the next summit over. This was my first activation of the visit. And the party was awesome too! My nephew had heard of SOTA, but had never tried it. He had a KX3 and a wire antenna. One activation, and he was hooked. Also interesting to note, he quickly became envious of the 2m-SSB and 70cm-SSB capabilities of the FT-817. So within the first week he sold the KX3 and bought a clean almost new FT-817ND. When he discovered that I leave a set of Arrow Beams for 2m and 70cm in his basement (weight I don't have to carry back and forth), he quickly begged permission to use them. Of course.

I mentioned that I had previously activated in OE and OK, and I'd like to get more countries in my log, he came up with a fast run to HB0 and HB9. We travelled 1,000 km and activated two summits in two countries in just 18 hours. Departed at 0500, returned at 2300.

He has fallen in love with the FT-817ND. As we know, there isn't another radio quite like it. A few days after activating HB0 and HB9, we activated 2 local 10-point summits. And he asked me to send him some antenna supplies. I've gathered up about half of what he asked for already.

Yes - as we both know, the 3S Li-Fe-Po4 is almost a perfect match to the needs of the FT-817. It is a very good choice for nearly any mobile portable radio in the 4S configuration as well. But a 4S Li-Po? Not so much. I really Really REALLY wish the 3S 3600 mAh Li-Po internal pack I have was not discontinued. I only have two left, and one is showing signs of going weak on me. It may eventually force me to switch to external batteries.

Have a GREAT (minds) evening sir.

Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
NA-SOTA info is at:


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Re: MODERATOR MESSAGE: *** HACKED*** Australian Parliament Post

 

Good to know. Thanks.

Joseph V.

On Sun, Jun 30, 2019, 08:16 w4wb@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:
?

Norm VK5GI notified me that he has been hacked and the? Australian Parliament post was a fraud.


Do not respond to that post.? I am deleting all replying as well.


Tnx es 73 de

Barry W4WB

Moderator


Re: MODERATOR MESSAGE: *** HACKED*** Australian Parliament Post

Mike Olbrisch
 

Hi Barry,



I figured that as well. There are two kinds of people in that situation. Those who have been hacked, and those who have not yet been hacked. I figured he was the former, and just deleted the message. Been there, done that too. Wasn¡¯t worth calling him out on it, he was likely embarrassed enough.



Hope you¡¯re doing well sir. How is that nearly 20 y/o original FT-817 doing for you? I imagine Yaesu has surpassed the ?-million mark in sales by now.



Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.

El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

NA-SOTA info is at: <>







From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:16 AM
To: FT817@...
Subject: [FT817] MODERATOR MESSAGE: *** HACKED*** Australian Parliament Post








Norm VK5GI notified me that he has been hacked and the Australian Parliament post was a fraud.



Do not respond to that post. I am deleting all replying as well.



Tnx es 73 de

Barry W4WB

Moderator










[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Mike Olbrisch
 

Good evening Matt. Yeah - I see that I cannot spell either! <grin>. MINDS! GREAT MINDS!

In my defense, I am suffering JET LAG from nearly a month in Germany, then two days home, and immediately on to my 4 x 12-hour-night shift rotation. I don't know where I am right now!

I activated 5 SOTA summits while in Europe. Quite an accomplishment, considering the primary mission is to get my wife over to visit her mother as much as possible. My sister-in-law is Dl1NLG, my brother-in-law is DG7NFV. Although they have always supported my SOTA fun, neither is really interested.

Between my 2017 visit and my 2019 visit, my nephew Andreas became DO5AL. Every visit, I attend a joint SOTA activation, followed by a party on the next summit over. This was my first activation of the visit. And the party was awesome too! My nephew had heard of SOTA, but had never tried it. He had a KX3 and a wire antenna. One activation, and he was hooked. Also interesting to note, he quickly became envious of the 2m-SSB and 70cm-SSB capabilities of the FT-817. So within the first week he sold the KX3 and bought a clean almost new FT-817ND. When he discovered that I leave a set of Arrow Beams for 2m and 70cm in his basement (weight I don't have to carry back and forth), he quickly begged permission to use them. Of course.

I mentioned that I had previously activated in OE and OK, and I'd like to get more countries in my log, he came up with a fast run to HB0 and HB9. We travelled 1,000 km and activated two summits in two countries in just 18 hours. Departed at 0500, returned at 2300.

He has fallen in love with the FT-817ND. As we know, there isn't another radio quite like it. A few days after activating HB0 and HB9, we activated 2 local 10-point summits. And he asked me to send him some antenna supplies. I've gathered up about half of what he asked for already.

Yes - as we both know, the 3S Li-Fe-Po4 is almost a perfect match to the needs of the FT-817. It is a very good choice for nearly any mobile portable radio in the 4S configuration as well. But a 4S Li-Po? Not so much. I really Really REALLY wish the 3S 3600 mAh Li-Po internal pack I have was not discontinued. I only have two left, and one is showing signs of going weak on me. It may eventually force me to switch to external batteries.

Have a GREAT (minds) evening sir.

Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
NA-SOTA info is at:

-----Original Message-----
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 7:02 AM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Mines? What sort, gold perhaps? ?

Re-reading his response, I think Joseph understands battery chemistry, just missed the reference to LiFePO4 from the OP perhaps.


Matt
VK1MA

-----Original Message-----
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 10:33 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

I should have not replied immediately - Matt covered it as well as I could!

Hey Matt - great mines or what?????

Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
NA-SOTA info is at:



-----Original Message-----
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 21:07 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Hi Joseph, agree that a 4S LiPo is not suitable for the FT-817 (or any other 12V nominal radio without a buck converter or similar), however he is looking at a LiFePO4 not a LiPo ¨C the voltage range of the 4S LiFePO4 is fine for the FT-817, although the better option is the 3S LiFePO4 which has a more suitable voltage range for the FT-817 than the 4S LiFePO4 batteries.



Tom, I bought three of the 8400mAh 4s2P LiFePO4 ¡°zippy¡± batteries about 7 years ago. Still going fine, but I use them for radios that need to be around 13.8V (which the 817 does not ¨C it works fine down to 8V or a little lower). I last saw them on the hobbyking site about 12 months ago when I was shopping for some of the 4S 4200 mAh LiFePO4) ¨C they were hard to find, but I did find them in the end. Just looked now and couldn¡¯t find them on hobbyking, so possible that they no longer sell them ¨C perhaps an email to ask if they still sell them? As above, would recommend the 3S LiFePO4 batteries over the 4S ¨C noticed that the US warehouse is currently out of stock for the 4200mAh 3S1P LiFePO4 batteries, but if they are like the VK warehouse, they will restock in a week or two. Alternatively I like the 3S LiPo 2500mAh batteries for the FT-817 ¨C suitable voltage range, cheap, very lightweight and lasts for multiple activations.





Matt

VK1MA



From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 12:42 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery








I would not recommend running the 817 on any 4s lipo.. Although I have done it, they charge out to over 16 volts DC. Just out of curiosity, why the zippy flightmax? You can run any 3s lipo or lifepo safely. Hobbyking have the Turnigy series batteries in which I have used for many years. The current rating on them are conservative. I currently am using 4x Turnigy 20-30c 5000mAh 3s LiPo batteries for my portable pack. This 4 pack will run my Ft-991a at 100 watts for a good while in a pinch and they never get hot.





Joseph V.

KD4RXP

Iowa



On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 20:18 tdgsr@... <mailto:tdgsr@...> [FT817] <FT817@... <mailto:FT817@...> > wrote:



Good Morning Group:



I've been searching for the battery above, without much success.



From what I can gather, the particular Zippy is a one-off.



Every dealer that I've visited was out of stock, including what I believe is the master distributor "Hobby King"



If anyone knows where one is lurking, or can suggest something comparable, I would appreciate a heads-up.



tnx es 73 de K3SSB



Tom G, Sr.


















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MODERATOR MESSAGE: *** HACKED*** Australian Parliament Post

 

Norm VK5GI notified me that he has been hacked and the? Australian Parliament post was a fraud.


Do not respond to that post.? I am deleting all replying as well.


Tnx es 73 de

Barry W4WB

Moderator


Re: ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

 

Mines? What sort, gold perhaps? ?

Re-reading his response, I think Joseph understands battery chemistry, just missed the reference to LiFePO4 from the OP perhaps.


Matt
VK1MA

-----Original Message-----
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 10:33 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

I should have not replied immediately - Matt covered it as well as I could!

Hey Matt - great mines or what?????

Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
NA-SOTA info is at:



-----Original Message-----
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 21:07 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Hi Joseph, agree that a 4S LiPo is not suitable for the FT-817 (or any other 12V nominal radio without a buck converter or similar), however he is looking at a LiFePO4 not a LiPo ¨C the voltage range of the 4S LiFePO4 is fine for the FT-817, although the better option is the 3S LiFePO4 which has a more suitable voltage range for the FT-817 than the 4S LiFePO4 batteries.



Tom, I bought three of the 8400mAh 4s2P LiFePO4 ¡°zippy¡± batteries about 7 years ago. Still going fine, but I use them for radios that need to be around 13.8V (which the 817 does not ¨C it works fine down to 8V or a little lower). I last saw them on the hobbyking site about 12 months ago when I was shopping for some of the 4S 4200 mAh LiFePO4) ¨C they were hard to find, but I did find them in the end. Just looked now and couldn¡¯t find them on hobbyking, so possible that they no longer sell them ¨C perhaps an email to ask if they still sell them? As above, would recommend the 3S LiFePO4 batteries over the 4S ¨C noticed that the US warehouse is currently out of stock for the 4200mAh 3S1P LiFePO4 batteries, but if they are like the VK warehouse, they will restock in a week or two. Alternatively I like the 3S LiPo 2500mAh batteries for the FT-817 ¨C suitable voltage range, cheap, very lightweight and lasts for multiple activations.





Matt

VK1MA



From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 12:42 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery








I would not recommend running the 817 on any 4s lipo.. Although I have done it, they charge out to over 16 volts DC. Just out of curiosity, why the zippy flightmax? You can run any 3s lipo or lifepo safely. Hobbyking have the Turnigy series batteries in which I have used for many years. The current rating on them are conservative. I currently am using 4x Turnigy 20-30c 5000mAh 3s LiPo batteries for my portable pack. This 4 pack will run my Ft-991a at 100 watts for a good while in a pinch and they never get hot.





Joseph V.

KD4RXP

Iowa



On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 20:18 tdgsr@... <mailto:tdgsr@...> [FT817] <FT817@... <mailto:FT817@...> > wrote:



Good Morning Group:



I've been searching for the battery above, without much success.



From what I can gather, the particular Zippy is a one-off.



Every dealer that I've visited was out of stock, including what I believe is the master distributor "Hobby King"



If anyone knows where one is lurking, or can suggest something comparable, I would appreciate a heads-up.



tnx es 73 de K3SSB



Tom G, Sr.














[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Re: ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Mike Olbrisch
 

I should have not replied immediately - Matt covered it as well as I could!

Hey Matt - great mines or what?????

Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.
El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.
SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.
NA-SOTA info is at:

-----Original Message-----
From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 21:07 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: RE: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Hi Joseph, agree that a 4S LiPo is not suitable for the FT-817 (or any other 12V nominal radio without a buck converter or similar), however he is looking at a LiFePO4 not a LiPo ¨C the voltage range of the 4S LiFePO4 is fine for the FT-817, although the better option is the 3S LiFePO4 which has a more suitable voltage range for the FT-817 than the 4S LiFePO4 batteries.



Tom, I bought three of the 8400mAh 4s2P LiFePO4 ¡°zippy¡± batteries about 7 years ago. Still going fine, but I use them for radios that need to be around 13.8V (which the 817 does not ¨C it works fine down to 8V or a little lower). I last saw them on the hobbyking site about 12 months ago when I was shopping for some of the 4S 4200 mAh LiFePO4) ¨C they were hard to find, but I did find them in the end. Just looked now and couldn¡¯t find them on hobbyking, so possible that they no longer sell them ¨C perhaps an email to ask if they still sell them? As above, would recommend the 3S LiFePO4 batteries over the 4S ¨C noticed that the US warehouse is currently out of stock for the 4200mAh 3S1P LiFePO4 batteries, but if they are like the VK warehouse, they will restock in a week or two. Alternatively I like the 3S LiPo 2500mAh batteries for the FT-817 ¨C suitable voltage range, cheap, very lightweight and lasts for multiple activations.





Matt

VK1MA



From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 12:42 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery








I would not recommend running the 817 on any 4s lipo.. Although I have done it, they charge out to over 16 volts DC. Just out of curiosity, why the zippy flightmax? You can run any 3s lipo or lifepo safely. Hobbyking have the Turnigy series batteries in which I have used for many years. The current rating on them are conservative. I currently am using 4x Turnigy 20-30c 5000mAh 3s LiPo batteries for my portable pack. This 4 pack will run my Ft-991a at 100 watts for a good while in a pinch and they never get hot.





Joseph V.

KD4RXP

Iowa



On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 20:18 tdgsr@... <mailto:tdgsr@...> [FT817] <FT817@... <mailto:FT817@...> > wrote:



Good Morning Group:



I've been searching for the battery above, without much success.



From what I can gather, the particular Zippy is a one-off.



Every dealer that I've visited was out of stock, including what I believe is the master distributor "Hobby King"



If anyone knows where one is lurking, or can suggest something comparable, I would appreciate a heads-up.



tnx es 73 de K3SSB



Tom G, Sr.














[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



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Re: ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

Mike Olbrisch
 

For the record, Li-Fe-Po4 ¨C IS NOT ¨C Li-Po. Different critter completely, and a 4S Li-Fe-Po4 is safe to use with the FT-817ND, or other mobile radios that can accept 15V or less input voltages. A 4S Li-Po is not safe unless the radio can survive an input voltage nearly 17V.







Of note, a 4S Li-Fe-Po4 can be damaged by the FT-817. My FT-817ND shuts down at a measured 7.2V. The above URL will show that a 4S Li-Fe-Po4 is dead at 10V and can be damaged by excursions below that. A 3S Li-Fe-Po4 will be about 11V fresh off the charger, and considered dead at 7.5V. Several years ago I contacted an engineer from A123 and asked about how critical short excursions to 7.2V were, and as it is a momentary dip when the transmitter cuts out and by the time you reset the radio it is already above the 7.5V lower limit, damage is minimal.



The 3S Li-Fe-Po4 is perhaps the perfect battery for the FT-817. Energy density is the one point in favor if the Li-Po.



Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC.

El Paso, Texas - DM61rt.

SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager.

NA-SOTA info is at: <>







From: FT817@... <FT817@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2019 20:42 PM
To: FT817@...
Subject: Re: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery








I would not recommend running the 817 on any 4s lipo.. Although I have done it, they charge out to over 16 volts DC. Just out of curiosity, why the zippy flightmax? You can run any 3s lipo or lifepo safely. Hobbyking have the Turnigy series batteries in which I have used for many years. The current rating on them are conservative. I currently am using 4x Turnigy 20-30c 5000mAh 3s LiPo batteries for my portable pack. This 4 pack will run my Ft-991a at 100 watts for a good while in a pinch and they never get hot.





Joseph V.

KD4RXP

Iowa



On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 20:18 tdgsr@... <mailto:tdgsr@...> [FT817] <FT817@... <mailto:FT817@...> > wrote:



Good Morning Group:



I've been searching for the battery above, without much success.



From what I can gather, the particular Zippy is a one-off.



Every dealer that I've visited was out of stock, including what I believe is the master distributor "Hobby King"



If anyone knows where one is lurking, or can suggest something comparable, I would appreciate a heads-up.



tnx es 73 de K3SSB



Tom G, Sr.














[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

 

Hi Joseph, agree that a 4S LiPo is not suitable for the FT-817 (or any other 12V nominal radio without a buck converter or similar), however he is looking at a LiFePO4 not a LiPo ¨C the voltage range of the 4S LiFePO4 is fine for the FT-817, although the better option is the 3S LiFePO4 which has a more suitable voltage range for the FT-817 than the 4S LiFePO4 batteries.



Tom, I bought three of the 8400mAh 4s2P LiFePO4 ¡°zippy¡± batteries about 7 years ago. Still going fine, but I use them for radios that need to be around 13.8V (which the 817 does not ¨C it works fine down to 8V or a little lower). I last saw them on the hobbyking site about 12 months ago when I was shopping for some of the 4S 4200 mAh LiFePO4) ¨C they were hard to find, but I did find them in the end. Just looked now and couldn¡¯t find them on hobbyking, so possible that they no longer sell them ¨C perhaps an email to ask if they still sell them? As above, would recommend the 3S LiFePO4 batteries over the 4S ¨C noticed that the US warehouse is currently out of stock for the 4200mAh 3S1P LiFePO4 batteries, but if they are like the VK warehouse, they will restock in a week or two. Alternatively I like the 3S LiPo 2500mAh batteries for the FT-817 ¨C suitable voltage range, cheap, very lightweight and lasts for multiple activations.





Matt

VK1MA



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Sent: Sunday, 30 June 2019 12:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [FT817] ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery








I would not recommend running the 817 on any 4s lipo.. Although I have done it, they charge out to over 16 volts DC. Just out of curiosity, why the zippy flightmax? You can run any 3s lipo or lifepo safely. Hobbyking have the Turnigy series batteries in which I have used for many years. The current rating on them are conservative. I currently am using 4x Turnigy 20-30c 5000mAh 3s LiPo batteries for my portable pack. This 4 pack will run my Ft-991a at 100 watts for a good while in a pinch and they never get hot.





Joseph V.

KD4RXP

Iowa



On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 20:18 tdgsr@... <mailto:tdgsr@...> [FT817] <FT817@... <mailto:FT817@...> > wrote:



Good Morning Group:



I've been searching for the battery above, without much success.



From what I can gather, the particular Zippy is a one-off.



Every dealer that I've visited was out of stock, including what I believe is the master distributor "Hobby King"



If anyone knows where one is lurking, or can suggest something comparable, I would appreciate a heads-up.



tnx es 73 de K3SSB



Tom G, Sr.














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Re: ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

 

I would not recommend running the 817 on any 4s lipo. Although I have done it, they charge out to over 16 volts DC. Just out of curiosity, why the zippy flightmax? You can run any 3s lipo or lifepo safely. Hobbyking have the Turnigy series batteries in which I have used for many years. The current rating on them are conservative. I currently am using 4x Turnigy 20-30c 5000mAh 3s LiPo batteries for my portable pack. This 4 pack will run my Ft-991a at 100 watts for a good while in a pinch and they never get hot.


Joseph V.?
KD4RXP?
Iowa


On Sat, Jun 29, 2019, 20:18 tdgsr@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:
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Good Morning Group:


I've been searching for the battery above, without much success.?


From what I can gather, the particular Zippy is a one-off.?


Every dealer that I've visited was out of stock, including what I believe is the master distributor "Hobby King"?


If anyone knows where one is lurking, or can suggest something comparable, I would appreciate a heads-up.


tnx es 73 de K3SSB


Tom G, Sr.


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ZIPPY Flightmax 8400mAh 4S2P 30C LiFePo4 battery

 

Good Morning Group:


I've been searching for the battery above, without much success.?


From what I can gather, the particular Zippy is a one-off.?


Every dealer that I've visited was out of stock, including what I believe is the master distributor "Hobby King"?


If anyone knows where one is lurking, or can suggest something comparable, I would appreciate a heads-up.


tnx es 73 de K3SSB


Tom G, Sr.


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8400mah 13.2 v LiFePO4 battery

 

Good Morning Group:


I've been searching for the Zippy 8400mah 13.2v?LiFePO4 battery, without much luck. It would appear that all outlets are out-of-stock, including what I suspect is the master distributor Hobby King.


Hopefully, someone here can point me to a source with the inventory.?


It looks like Zippy was the sole source for this particular combination of mah and voltage.


Have FT-817ND, will travel...


tnx es 73 de K3SSB


Tom G, Sr.


Re: Windcamp battery

Theodore Hodges
 

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Thanks Mike! I would like to input a voltage above the minimum required to keep the battery charged, but below the max that the rig is comfortable with.

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Re: Windcamp battery

 

Hi Ted,

I just checked, and yes you can power the 817 and charge the battery at the same time.
Just be careful the voltage you input to charge the battery does not exceed the upper voltage limit of the 817.
With the switch in the off position only the battery sees the charge voltage.

73 - KV4TT - Mike


Windcamp battery

Theodore Hodges
 

Hello all! Finally got around to ordering a Windcamp battery/ cover/charger for my 817ND. Just wondering, is it possible to charge the battery from the jack on the cover while using the battery to run the rig at the same time? More specifically, considering plugging the output of a solar panel into the battery cover while operating the rig. Thanks! 73, Ted KE4NBB


Re: Indoor apartment antenna rfi

 

control-plus on most systems...

Timothy-Allen Albertson kd0oia@... [FT817] wrote:


Now if I can figure out how to increase the size of the type my old eyes
wont hurt as much.


Re: Indoor apartment antenna rfi

Timothy-Allen Albertson
 

TNX very much Al.? ?
Very insightful and useful.

Now if I can figure out how to increase the size of the type my old eyes
wont hurt as much.

72/73 DR TIMOTHY-ALLEN ALBERTSON
KD?OIA/(ex KG6IRH)



On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 8:50 AM 'Al Skierkiewicz' markaren1@... [FT817] <FT817@...> wrote:
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Tim,

If the lamp is not intended as a dimmable model than yes, it should not produce much in the way of wideband noise.? In narrowing your search, the noise present all the time or only at certain times?? Does it turn on and off regularly, does it vary with seasons?? Does it change if you move your radio to another part of the room?? Are you running your radio on battery when you experience the noise?? Does the noise occur when other devices in the building are operating, like the elevators, refrigerators, laundry machines?? I had a serious issue a number of years ago and tracked it down to a neighbor¡¯s a few houses away.? When I asked them about it, they mentioned that a furnace had been acting up and would I look at it.? Sure enough, while this was a synchronous motor ( no brushes), it did have a winding that was arcing.? Before they could get a repair man out, the furnace failed.? Motor replacement solved the problem.? But that noise would occur for several minutes at a time and then disappear.? Another time, a constant noise was getting worse, so I used my AM radio with a bar antenna inside and started walking the neighborhood.? When I realized it pointed at a power pole, I went to investigate and found the power pole smoldering.? Apparently, it got struck by lightning and caused a carbon path down the side of the pole to a grounded bolt used for support.? The power company didn¡¯t want to come out until I pointed out that the support was within ground level reach of young people, they were out in a matter of hours.? A replacement of the insulator and a chainsaw to break the path fixed that issue.? If you are near the top of your building, there may be equipment on the roof that is failing or not properly installed.? If the noise turns on and off, I would suggest that the equipment is the source.? If you are near the center of the building, then it is possible the power cables feeding the floors above you are passing near your room.? The field from the power cables will couple directly into your antenna.? Is your antenna a single loop or multiple loops?? Can you move one side of the antenna so it is much lower than the other side?? Does that change the noise level?? All of these things could help determine the source.

Al Skierkiewicz


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