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Dado Help Needed Please


Bill White
 

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Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade. ?I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.
Bill Bélanger


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


Bill White
 

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Thanks for the help Bill.

?

I have the smaller one too, but the wrench size is different than the large one and I was afraid of it being incorrect.? Either way, when I use the smaller one I still need to put on a spacer to get the set to tighten up.? Without a spacer it stays loose..?

?

What am I doing wrong?

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.

Bill Bélanger

?

?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

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Yes the spacers are to make up the difference so you can tighten up the flange, also like Bill showed the smaller flange is for the dado?

Regards, Mark

On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

?

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade. ?I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

开云体育

I believe you should also have a spacer to move the blade out further on the arbor - I can’t remember the size but some one I am sure will chime in. ?That may tighten it up for you

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Belanger <Bill@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:25:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please
?
The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.
Bill Bélanger


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


Bill White
 

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Thanks Mark,

?

I appreciate the help.? Now I can tighten the dado set and make my first dado!

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

Yes the spacers are to make up the difference so you can tighten up the flange, also like Bill showed the smaller flange is for the dado?

Regards, Mark



On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

?

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade. ?I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


Bill White
 

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I have seen 2 videos on how to use the dado set and there was no inside spacer used on my machine.? Of course, the video could nave not mentioned it like they failed to mention the spacer on the outside, LOL.

?

Thanks,

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Marsico
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

I believe you should also have a spacer to move the blade out further on the arbor - I can’t remember the size but some one I am sure will chime in. ?That may tighten it up for you

?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Belanger <Bill@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:25:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.

Bill Bélanger

?

?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

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No problem, like Michael said you may need one on the inside to push the stack out a little depending so check your clearance?

Regards, Mark

On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

?

Thanks Mark,

?

I appreciate the help.? Now I can tighten the dado set and make my first dado!

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

Yes the spacers are to make up the difference so you can tighten up the flange, also like Bill showed the smaller flange is for the dado?

Regards, Mark



On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

?

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade. ?I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

There is a spacer inside too. Whatever size allows the dado blade to clear. I have a Kappa 400 and I need to remove another piece that is part of the blade opening so my setup I’m sure is different. Sorry I can’t help more

Bill Bélanger


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:44 Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

I have seen 2 videos on how to use the dado set and there was no inside spacer used on my machine.? Of course, the video could nave not mentioned it like they failed to mention the spacer on the outside, LOL.

?

Thanks,

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Marsico

Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

I believe you should also have a spacer to move the blade out further on the arbor - I can’t remember the size but some one I am sure will chime in.? That may tighten it up for you

?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Belanger <Bill@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:25:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.

Bill Bélanger

?

?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


Bill White
 

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Bill,

?

My KF700 has an interior spacer when the saw blade is installed, but I must take it out when using the dado set.? No interior spacer is needed as the dado clears the saw without one.

?

Thanks,

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Belanger
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 6:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

There is a spacer inside too. Whatever size allows the dado blade to clear. I have a Kappa 400 and I need to remove another piece that is part of the blade opening so my setup I’m sure is different. Sorry I can’t help more

?

Bill Bélanger

?

?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:44 Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

I have seen 2 videos on how to use the dado set and there was no inside spacer used on my machine.? Of course, the video could nave not mentioned it like they failed to mention the spacer on the outside, LOL.

?

Thanks,

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Marsico

Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

I believe you should also have a spacer to move the blade out further on the arbor - I can’t remember the size but some one I am sure will chime in.? That may tighten it up for you

?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Belanger <Bill@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:25:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.

Bill Bélanger

?

?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

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Bill,

A different way to explain is that the arbor length is fixed. You basically need to add spacers on the arbor so that your total stack is wide enough for the flange to apply securing force.

I was told that if the blade clears the rip side then you may add all spacers in front. I still prefer adding some on both sides.

The exploded diagram for my K975 shows the shim set needed for dado (3, 6 & 9mm). If you are not sure that you have the full set you may check your saw book.

Happy Dado-ing ?

Imran

On Jun 5, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:

?

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade. ?I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

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Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

<image002.jpg>

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

I am not sure but your dado is different then the one I have. Mine has a center piece that has two holes the pins go through. I have the hammer version. With mine no added spacers are needed. I might be missing something so sorry. Doug

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 08:44:26 PM EDT, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:


I have seen 2 videos on how to use the dado set and there was no inside spacer used on my machine.? Of course, the video could nave not mentioned it like they failed to mention the spacer on the outside, LOL.

?

Thanks,

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Marsico
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

I believe you should also have a spacer to move the blade out further on the arbor - I can’t remember the size but some one I am sure will chime in. ?That may tighten it up for you

?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Belanger <Bill@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:25:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

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The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.

Bill Bélanger

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On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

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On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 10:08:34 PM EDT, Doug Middlebrook via groups.io <middlebrookdoug@...> wrote:


I am not sure but your dado is different then the one I have. Mine has a center piece that has two holes the pins go through. I have the hammer version. With mine no added spacers are needed. I might be missing something so sorry. Doug

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 08:44:26 PM EDT, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:


I have seen 2 videos on how to use the dado set and there was no inside spacer used on my machine.? Of course, the video could nave not mentioned it like they failed to mention the spacer on the outside, LOL.

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Thanks,

?

Bill

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Marsico
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

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I believe you should also have a spacer to move the blade out further on the arbor - I can’t remember the size but some one I am sure will chime in. ?That may tighten it up for you

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Belanger <Bill@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:25:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.

Bill Bélanger

?

?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?

?

Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use


 

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That video is for a Hammer chassis. ?The photos Bill posted are for a Kappa 40 or 400 machine. ? The 700-series external cap for the dado cutter is different. ? The following illustrates the proper outside cap for use with a dado cutter on the 700-series machines with pins.


If you don’t have this style external cap, then you need to use shims/spacers on the outside of the dado cutter like you would on your spindle shaper to pad out the arbor length so that the cap you do have compresses the dado stack securely.

David Best

https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/





On Jun 5, 2021, at 7:18 PM, Doug Middlebrook via <middlebrookdoug@...> wrote:

?this is from Felder.

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 10:08:34 PM EDT, Doug Middlebrook via <middlebrookdoug@...> wrote:


I am not sure but your dado is different then the one I have. Mine has a center piece that has two holes the pins go through. I have the hammer version. With mine no added spacers are needed. I might be missing something so sorry. Doug

On Saturday, June 5, 2021, 08:44:26 PM EDT, Bill White <william2652@...> wrote:


I have seen 2 videos on how to use the dado set and there was no inside spacer used on my machine.? Of course, the video could nave not mentioned it like they failed to mention the spacer on the outside, LOL.

?

Thanks,

?

Bill

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Marsico
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 5:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

I believe you should also have a spacer to move the blade out further on the arbor - I can’t remember the size but some one I am sure will chime in. ?That may tighten it up for you

?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill Belanger <Bill@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 5, 2021 8:25:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Dado Help Needed Please

?

The setup on the left us for a regular blade, the one on the right is for the dado set.

Bill Bélanger

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?

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 17:15 Bill White via <william2652=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi there,

?

First time using my dado set up on my Felder 2016 KF700S and I could use some help so I am reaching out to the smart folk on the FOG.

?

I have removed the saw blade and the spacer behind the blade.? I only have the 12-19 dado set.? I have 1 each of 2, 3, and 4mm spacers.? I wish to cut a 12mm slot so I am not adding any spacers between the cutters since that is the smallest dado the set will make.?

?

When I put, for lack of knowledge, the lock-nut and allen bolt on the dado set to tighten it, the cutters are loose and no matter how I tighten the bolt they stay loose. I put the 4mm spacer on the outside of the dado set and then installed the locknut and allen bolt and it tightened right up.

?

My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?? Without the spacer, the cutters are loose.? I wasn’t sure if the spacers are the right ones as I received them with the saw when I purchased the machine.? I bought the dado set used and it did not come with any spacers.?

?

Here are some pictures showing what I’m doing just to be clear as possible. Sorry if they show too large.

?

I just want to make sure I’m doing this right before I crash and burn.? Actually, so I don’t crash and burn, LOL!

?

Thanks for your help and kind guidance.

?

Warmly,

?

Bill

SoCal

?
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Figure 1Picture of the dado cutter without locknut

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Figure 2 - The spacers and the lock-nut I am using


--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use



--
Bill White
SoCal

Felder KF700S - Hammer A3 -41, Festools, & Way too much stuff I don't use
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Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

On 6/5/21 8:15 PM, Bill White wrote:
My question is, do I need to place a spacer on the outside of the
cutters between the lock-nut and the cutters?

It depends. I've used it? at times.

I had to drill parts of? mine out with two more holes because the felder
engineers failed to consider that I'd want a dado thickness? that uses
al the disks.