Andy,
Could you post a picture for your Hammer tilt bracket with the gas spring from McMaster? I want to see how you mount the gas spring on the bracket. I have Felder tilt bracket.
Thanks, James
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I've been using a Comatic DC40 with the standard stand (ie the dumb one) on my C3 using the Hammer tilt bracket and a gas spring I got from McMaster for about a year with zero issues. Obviously the Smart Stand is a lot heavier, but probably overkill unless you are in a production environment.
The Folder tilt bracket is stronger than the Hammer so as long as you stay with the regular stand it will work. The feeder weight difference between three and four wheels is small compared to a regular AC feeder
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I've been using a Comatic DC40 with the standard stand (ie the dumb one) on my C3 using the Hammer tilt bracket and a gas spring I got from McMaster for about a year with zero issues. Obviously the Smart Stand is a lot heavier, but probably overkill unless you are in a production environment.
The Folder tilt bracket is stronger than the Hammer so as long as you stay with the regular stand it will work. The feeder weight difference between three and four wheels is small compared to a regular AC feeder
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When I was in that show room the last time, there was either a KF 700 (not sure if it is SP or not) or a K 700 S on display.? It has the gray/blue paint job.? I was there to take some real-time measurements, chat with Liz, and look at the machine's guts.? There was a bunch of machines in the back room, ready to be delivered or picked up.? After that, I wanted the X-roll table!? I wonder if you bought that same one.
Oh, what is this about you training Liz???
Thanks for sharing.??
SW
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Hi Joe,
I asked Liz Rogers to add item 430-017 "Titling device "F" with gas spring" to the quote.? I look at the picture in the Felder catalog and have doubt about its utility since it looks kinda flimsy.? My impression is in part due to the small, heavily compressed picture in the PDF catalog.? Do you think it would be better to build/customize your own, like yours?? I emailed you off the group.? :) ---In felder-woodworking@..., <joe.jensen@...> wrote : I have a Comatic DC40 on a smart feeder on a 2009 KF700SP on the Felder tilt bracket with a self-built big lift type gas strut. The 4 wheel is large and heavy and I would never be able to flip it without the big lift gas strut assist. I moved from a Maggie 3 wheel on a Maggie stand. I wanted 4 wheels so I could have two wheels on either side of the cutter for most operations. I love the smart stand and I am happy I got the 4 wheel. Having said that I rest the top of the Smart Stand on a piece of scrap lumber when flipped down because it would hit the floor if I didn't. The feeder still flips all the way out of the way but it is just a smidge too tall. Maybe someday I'll get ambitious and shorten the vertical column.
Email me if you want some pics of the feeder and stand up flipped down. It's no issue at all when flipped up and a very minor issue when flipped down.
Hi SW,
I run the Comatic DC40 smart feeder with single phase 120 volt. Since the DC40 converts AC power to DC it is possible to move some jumpers and run the feeder with single phase or three phase and with 120 volt or 240 volt.
I like to control the power feeder independently of the spindle power on or off. I would like to have it set up so the power feeder stops when the red power off button is pressed so that is something is going wrong the feeder stops with the spindle. But that is not possible when using 120 volt as the KF700 supplies whatever power it is running on.
If you are running the power feeder from the plug on the KF700 then it will power on and off with the start stop buttons for the shaper or the saw. I don't like the power feeder running when I am hand feeding something. I suppose I could turn the feeder off with the feeder controls.
If you are considering the Comatic Smart Stand for your Comatic feeder I think it is too large to use on a KF700. A three wheeled feeder with standard stand and lift assist device is ideal for a KF700.
I think 7.5 HP is enough power. I have not found 7.5 HP to be a limitation on my Profile 45z shaper.
Joe in New Orleans
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How else would you do it!
Having the power to the PF unavailable if the shaper motor is not running would drive me nuts - setting up the feeder to track accurately is trial and error and I usually test the feeder tracking setup without the spindle turning until I¡¯m certain it¡¯s aligned properly. ??
David Best
Designing and building for 47 years Having the power to the PF unavailable if the shaper motor is not running would drive me nuts - setting up the feeder to track accurately is trial and error and I usually test the feeder tracking setup without the spindle turning until I¡¯m certain it¡¯s aligned properly. ??
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Hi Corey,
The big tenon cutters are part of a Leitz Euro window set. ?
The max depth of tenon is about 90mm. ?Since the big tenon cutters are part of a window set and are made to make crossed lapped tenons the cutters have a corresponding mate that makes a joint that is a specific width. ?The standard finished stile and rail width for this set is 78mm so the tenon and its cross lapped mate have to account for this length. ?For doors I can make the stiles and rails up to 90mm wide. ?Then I hit the limit of tenon depth as the cutters are mounted on 80 mm sleeves.
If I want to go wider for a tall bottom rail then I mill off the tenons on the rail and use dowels.
So what is your reference for all glue failing on cross grain surfaces? ?Over what time period?
While at the Thonet furniture factory in Germany last May I saw Windows used in their museum made with cross lapped tenons and there was no evidence that the corner glue joints were failing. ?I am guessing that the windows were 20 to 30 years old. ?I noticed these windows because they had a 4mm air gap and were 58mm thick. ?This is similar to the euro windows I make. ?Europe has moved on to thicker more energy efficient windows so 58mm windows are now obsolete. ?I think they still work well for New Orleans climate though. ?
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HI Joe, what 300mm tenon cutter did you purchase? Max length of tenon? Cost? I've been looking for similar for big door tenons and smaller timber work like gate projects. 5" tenon would even be more useful/ Ideally I would want the ability to cut twin tenons with spacers.? I hope the large set would be equally useful on shorter tenons for cabinet door size work. I do alot of twin tenons as it locates the rails to the stiles veryy squarely and solidly ( is that a word??) Also when the glue fails ( glue fails?always?over time on cross grain faces) the twin tenons will hold the form twice as well as a single tenon. Unsure if you anyone is interested in twin tenons, but Nakahashi sells a twin mortise chuck for chisel mortices that allow you to cut two side by side mortices at once. Meant for smaller work, couple configurations but 6mm tenons spaced 6mm apart is an option with two other choices with minor variances.
My thought on the length of rip fence is mostly regarding my use of solid wood more than ply. I only buy a couple sheets a year for jigs and such.? ?So the wider rip capacity I feel is more convenient for solid work that may may be over 8'.? I think my fence( not felder) is 54"? I just feel the wider rip lets you cut longer pieces in half with out flipping the board around so much.
?another thought on having a slider for the OP is that I don't really like having to rip cut many sticks at at time on it. Few rip cuts here and there fine but kept my old unisaw for a dedicated rip saw for? stripping boards. I ! actually cut the fence down to 12" hug it up to the back of the shaper and share the feeder from the shaper with it. Only three horse, have been gagging with fast feeds for a some time and it still won't die. Miles of molding blanks and sticker for drying lumber sometimes at speeds as much as 60+ fpm.? I also worried that the sliding table is aluminum and dont want to where the edge from long runs of production ripping. Just thoughts. Sorry they are so random.... ?Happy new year! Best to you all great conversation love reading your posts thankyou ?
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David,
Ha! ?You are correct of course.
I disliked the Felder feeder plug for the wrong reason and now dislike it even more. ?
So there is delayed power to the feeder then it still has to be turned on manually! ?
It probably is not difficult to move a jumper or something to change the behavior to power always on at the feeder plug.
The power was always on my F700z at the feeder plug and I assumed this would be the case with the Profile 45z but no, so I changed the jumpers in the DC40 to accommodate 120 volt single phase power and plugged it directly into the wall. ?This has worked well for me.
A reason I love the FOG is that despite the fact that two very good friends had told me about the 8 second delay for feeder power I had not understood until now that the feeder did not automatically turn after the 8 seconds, David points out that this is not possible due to the electronic on off switch on the Comatic DC40 and he is correct but I missed this detail and I am happy to have learned of my error. Which leads me to my next comment...
Joe, it is good to know that the Smart Stand and DC40 can be flipped down on a KF700. ?
I think the Smart Stand adds a lot of convenience to the operation of the shaper. ?I love that the feeder setting is indexed and it is easy to swing the feeder out of the way and swing it back to the same setup with no trouble. ?I also like that the height adjustment is front and center as is the ability to set the toe out or in.
Last week I installed the height counter on the smart stand and I expect that will make using the feeder even easier.
I also like the large locking levers on the Smart Stand as they making securing the feeder position easy and sure. ?The locking levers on my F48 feeder where short enough that I used a bar for extra leverage. ?Having to use the additional leverage made swinging the feeder out of the way for a safety double check on cutter set up a pain.
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I did, and I don¡¯t believe it. ? His feeder may be tied into the main power switch on the Profil, but I don¡¯t see how the feeder can be configured to power on when the spindle motor is actuated. ? Maybe there¡¯s some hack to the Comatic feeder that allows it to start up in the RUN position, but I have my doubts.
David Best
David,
Did you read Lucky¡¯s post about his feeder starting and stopping with the spindle?
Joe in New Orleans
This is confusing to me. ? How do you get the Comatic feeder to automatically start running when power is applied to it? ? If I start my Comatic feeder, unplug it, then plug it back in, it powers back up on the OFF mode and I have to press the start switch on the feeder again to get it running - which is the way it should be for safety purposes.. ? So I seriously doubt John¡¯s feeder starts running by itself when the shaper spindle switch is depressed.
Having the power to the PF unavailable if the shaper motor is not running would drive me nuts - setting up the feeder to track accurately is trial and error and I usually test the feeder tracking setup without the spindle turning until I¡¯m certain it¡¯s aligned properly. ??
David Best
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Gary,
That is interesting.
There must be options that can be set.
I think John Ferandin¡¯s Profile 45z has a time delay then starts the feeder after the spindle is started and then the feeder stops when the spindle stops.?
I never hooked my feeder to the shaper plug because I did not want to the feeder to start and stop this way.
Joe in New Orleans
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HI Joe, what 300mm tenon cutter did you purchase? Max length of tenon? Cost? I've been looking for similar for big door tenons and smaller timber work like gate projects. 5" tenon would even be more useful/ Ideally I would want the ability to cut twin tenons with spacers.? I hope the large set would be equally useful on shorter tenons for cabinet door size work. I do alot of twin tenons as it locates the rails to the stiles veryy squarely and solidly ( is that a word??) Also when the glue fails ( glue fails?always?over time on cross grain faces) the twin tenons will hold the form twice as well as a single tenon. Unsure if you anyone is interested in twin tenons, but Nakahashi sells a twin mortise chuck for chisel mortices that allow you to cut two side by side mortices at once. Meant for smaller work, couple configurations but 6mm tenons spaced 6mm apart is an option with two other choices with minor variances.
My thought on the length of rip fence is mostly regarding my use of solid wood more than ply. I only buy a couple sheets a year for jigs and such.? ?So the wider rip capacity I feel is more convenient for solid work that may may be over 8'.? I think my fence( not felder) is 54"? I just feel the wider rip lets you cut longer pieces in half with out flipping the board around so much.
?another thought on having a slider for the OP is that I don't really like having to rip cut many sticks at at time on it. Few rip cuts here and there fine but kept my old unisaw for a dedicated rip saw for? stripping boards. I actually cut the fence down to 12" hug it up to the back of the shaper and share the feeder from the shaper with it. Only three horse, have been gagging with fast feeds for a some time and it still won't die. Miles of molding blanks and sticker for drying lumber sometimes at speeds as much as 60+ fpm.? I also worried that the sliding table is aluminum and dont want to where the edge from long runs of production ripping. Just thoughts. Sorry they are so random.... ?Happy new year! Best to you all great conversation love reading your posts thankyou ?
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You guys are funny. ?OCD has it¡¯s advantages and disadvantages. ? And people vary a great deal in terms of their need for organization and keeping the shop clean and tidy. ? When I¡¯m busy with a project, my shop can look like a tornado ripped through it. ? But personally, I can¡¯t work in such an environment for long without starting to twitch. ? On a trip this past year, I visited a dear friend (who will remain nameless) who is distinctly in the opposite camp. ? He thrives when everything is out and he can hop from one thing to another. ? Here¡¯s a few photos: ??
The friend who owns this shop does amazing work, is also a Felder owner, and is an engineering genius - not to mention one of the nicest guys you¡¯ll ever meet. ? But I was afraid I¡¯d run out of Xanax before I was scheduled to leave. ?
One of the best tricks I¡¯ve learned to keep the shop clean is to have high pressure compressed air, a long coiled hose with high output spray nozzle and a floor sweep for my dust extractor. ? I first put on my gas mask, turn on the extractor and the floor sweep blast gate opens, then I make two big loops from the far end of the shop spraying down everything towards the floor sweep as I get closer and closer to it. ? Once I¡¯m finished, my housecleaner empties the extractor bin with her Dyson Animal vacuum cleaner so I can reuse the plastic bin liners - and restocks the shop refrigerator with Champaign, refills the humidor with fresh Chesterfield Kings and disinfects the hookah. ? LOL
David Best
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He must have a night shift that cleans the place. I hope when i get set up in my shop I can keep it as clean as his.
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Thanks for training Liz. ? I¡¯m sure many others will appreciate your efforts, although they¡¯ll probably never know what you did to enhance her job security. ?LOL
And congratulations on your purchase. ? Nice to know there will be another Felder owner in our small army of dedicated detail men and women.
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I bought the KF700 that they had on the floor. Pretty much the far end of the spectrum from your machine. :) Pretty sure Liz will be happy to have more time to deal with other clients. I am really happy with my interaction with her.
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Oh baby, you guys got your nickers in a knot over my misspeak! Sorry. :-)
Correct David, my feeder powers up, but does not actually start feeding automatically. So I used the phrase "it turns on" in the sense that it receives power. Sorry for the confusion.? All this talk about thousands of lurkers and all of a sudden I've got 30+ emails from the FOG! Goody!
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I did, and I don¡¯t believe it. ? His feeder may be tied into the main power switch on the Profil, but I don¡¯t see how the feeder can be configured to power on when the spindle motor is actuated. ? Maybe there¡¯s some hack to the Comatic feeder that allows it to start up in the RUN position, but I have my doubts.
David Best
David,
Did you read Lucky¡¯s post about his feeder starting and stopping with the spindle?
Joe in New Orleans
This is confusing to me. ? How do you get the Comatic feeder to automatically start running when power is applied to it? ? If I start my Comatic feeder, unplug it, then plug it back in, it powers back up on the OFF mode and I have to press the start switch on the feeder again to get it running - which is the way it should be for safety purposes.. ? So I seriously doubt John¡¯s feeder starts running by itself when the shaper spindle switch is depressed.
Having the power to the PF unavailable if the shaper motor is not running would drive me nuts - setting up the feeder to track accurately is trial and error and I usually test the feeder tracking setup without the spindle turning until I¡¯m certain it¡¯s aligned properly. ??
David Best
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Gary,
That is interesting.
There must be options that can be set.
I think John Ferandin¡¯s Profile 45z has a time delay then starts the feeder after the spindle is started and then the feeder stops when the spindle stops.?
I never hooked my feeder to the shaper plug because I did not want to the feeder to start and stop this way.
Joe in New Orleans
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I ordered my Profil with provisions to provide power for the feeder which it does well.? The outlet is on the back left side just below the second dust port and uses a European style plug which is available from Felder and is very reasonably priced.?
The feeder power operation is not available when the spindle is not turning and has an 8 second startup delay which allows the spindles Star-Delta start cycle to complete itself before powering up the feeder.?
Like Joe Doherty, I use the Cometic DC40 feeder. It has digital start/stop and variable speed built in and because of this it needs to be turned on manually when power is removed which occurs when the spindle is stopped (either with the stop button or emergency stop button).?
Since I don¡¯t typically dry run the feeder this setup works fine for me.? If i wanted the feeder to start when the spindle is turned on then a standard mechanical on/off switch like the Felder, Steff, and older style Comatics have would be better choice.?
I hope this helps.?
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Gary,
That is interesting.
There must be options that can be set.
I think John Ferandin¡¯s Profile 45z has a time delay then starts the feeder after the spindle is started and then the feeder stops when the spindle stops.?
I never hooked my feeder to the shaper plug because I did not want to the feeder to start and stop this way.
Joe in New Orleans
My DC40 Comatic does not automatically start with the Profil 45 shaper. ?It is 3 phase, plugged into the shaper, installed by Felder tech. Gary Gary Blasingame195 Red Fox Run Athens, Georgia 30605 706-353-8629 706-540-2130 (cell) ?Hi SW,
I run the Comatic DC40 smart feeder with single phase 120 volt. ?Since the DC40 converts AC power to DC it is possible to move some jumpers and run the feeder with single phase or three phase and with 120 volt or 240 volt.
I like to control the power feeder independently of the spindle power on or off. ?I would like to have it set up so the power feeder stops when the red power off button is pressed so that is something is going wrong the feeder stops with the spindle. ?But that is not possible when using 120 volt as the KF700 supplies whatever power it is running on. If you are running the power feeder from the plug on the KF700 then it will power on and off with the start stop buttons for the shaper or the saw. ?I don¡¯t like the power feeder running when I am hand feeding something. ?I suppose I could turn the feeder off with the feeder controls.
If you are considering the Comatic Smart Stand for your Comatic feeder I think it is too large to use on a KF700. ?A three wheeled feeder with standard stand and lift assist device is ideal for a KF700.
I think 7.5 HP is enough power. ?I have not found 7.5 HP to be a limitation on my Profile 45z shaper. ?
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Yep another great recommendation on Mac's clamps. Air clamps are IMHO a must upgrade. Also adding Brian Lamb's parallel cutting setup. Both are essential to how I operate.
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He must have a night shift that cleans the place. I hope when i get set up in my shop I can keep it as clean as his.
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I highly recommend that you consider the Aigner fence. It allows you to easily cover most of the opening between fences when shaping. It's expensive but I consider it the best upgrade I made when ordering.
Thanks Joe, David, Lucky, Mark and Gary. Your replies have been tremendously helpful and informative.
Given testimonies from David and Lucky, I will just order the standard digital stops with one of the two stops on the telescoping arm. Adding it later is difficult it sounds; much easier to add the 604-118 digital stop in the future.
I will ask Liz to change the spindle moulder size to 30mm. From what I gather from exploring Rangate website, the money is in the tooling. The machine cost pales in comparison. A window tooling set costs 12K USD!!! I have not used a shaper ever. It is one of the few machines that I find intimidating and dangerous, yet so capable. So, I am educating myself about shaper, Aigner, tooling, etc.
I am waiting for Liz to quote me the cost to upgrade to the 10 HP motor. Given the advise here, I will probably stay with the 7.4 HP motor and will have some overhead room for the PP 330.
Given what David said about the dust extractor position for 49" clearance to the right of the blade, I might as well stay with the 49" rip capacity option. One of the pluses of this machine is the ability to process full-size sheet goods.
If anything I learn from the forum, it's the length of the slider. Get the longest! Fortunately, I have more than enough room for the 3200mm slider.
I looked at David's pictures. David, you have the mitre indexing system. Is that Option 170 or 173? Do you find it useful and simple to use? It looks complicated from the pictures and catalog. I cannot tell if it can be used accurately.
I recall reading that the KF 700 SP should be specified at time of order to configure it to be able to use a grooving/dado cutter without removal of the scoring blade. Can someone elaborate on this? This information is not in the catalog or at Felder website.
Once again, thanks for your guidance.
SW
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>? Given the advise here, I will probably stay with the 7.4 HP motor and will have?> some overhead room for the PP 330.
It sounds like you think a 10HP motor automatically uses up the capacity of a 10HP PP.? This is not that case.
The PP rating is the maximum load it supports, expressed for convenience in HP, but a more accurate rating is amperage.? ?Per PP specs, the "Rated Current Output" is 30 amps.
The Full Load Amps (FLA) of a 10HP motor is generally ~28 amps.? But this is how much amperage it draws at the maximum load (strain) on the motor, and amperage draw is proportional to motor load.? ?
An idle motor draws about 1/3 FLA, or ~9 amps for your 10 HP motor.? Cutting through a light load like 1/2" plywood will barely increase the amp draw.? ? Cutting 12/4 oak may load the motor 60% or so, though it depends on factors like feed rate, blade sharpness, etc.
So in typical operation with a 10HP saw motor, you'd have 30-60% of the PP's Rate Current Output still available.?
Also, the PP has "Rated Current Output" of 30 amps, but the specs also say "Maximum 3-phase current,
steady state" is 36 amps.? I believe this extra 20% is their "overbuilt" buffer.
In summary, the PP gives you lots of overhead even with a 10HP motor.? But you don't need a 10HP, so it's a waste of money.
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I have a Comatic DC40 on a smart feeder on a 2009 KF700SP on the Felder tilt bracket with a self-built big lift type gas strut. The 4 wheel is large and heavy and I would never be able to flip it without the big lift gas strut assist. I moved from a Maggie 3 wheel on a Maggie stand. I wanted 4 wheels so I could have two wheels on either side of the cutter for most operations. I love the smart stand and I am happy I got the 4 wheel. Having said that I rest the top of the Smart Stand on a piece of scrap lumber when flipped down because it would hit the floor if I didn't. The feeder still flips all the way out of the way but it is just a smidge too tall. Maybe someday I'll get ambitious and shorten the vertical column.
Email me if you want some pics of the feeder and stand up flipped down. It's no issue at all when flipped up and a very minor issue when flipped down.
Hi SW,
I run the Comatic DC40 smart feeder with single phase 120 volt. Since the DC40 converts AC power to DC it is possible to move some jumpers and run the feeder with single phase or three phase and with 120 volt or 240 volt.
I like to control the power feeder independently of the spindle power on or off. I would like to have it set up so the power feeder stops when the red power off button is pressed so that is something is going wrong the feeder stops with the spindle. But that is not possible when using 120 volt as the KF700 supplies whatever power it is running on.
If you are running the power feeder from the plug on the KF700 then it will power on and off with the start stop buttons for the shaper or the saw. I don't like the power feeder running when I am hand feeding something. I suppose I could turn the feeder off with the feeder controls.
If you are considering the Comatic Smart Stand for your Comatic feeder I think it is too large to use on a KF700. A three wheeled feeder with standard stand and lift assist device is ideal for a KF700.
I think 7.5 HP is enough power. I have not found 7.5 HP to be a limitation on my Profile 45z shaper.
Joe in New Orleans
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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
basically all you need to do is to enlarge the hole in the shaper hood to allow the threaded rod from the Aigner mounting stud to fit. You can see (if the pictures made it) the mounting stud can travel in an arc to vary the height of the stud. AIGNER Integral fence L500mm R500mm safe machining on a vertical spindle mille Dave AI-213311000193 846,94 [image: Inline image 1][image: Inline image 2][image: Inline image 3][image: Inline image 4] On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:37 PM, patrick walsh pwalsh651@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
That would be much appreciated!
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, David Davies myfinishingtouch@...
[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
I'll find the pictures I took of my Aigner fence. It's a super easy mod.
Dave
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:04 PM, patrick walsh pwalsh651@...
[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
James,
So if I¡¯m figurimg right I might save a couple hunter bucks but then I
need to drill and tap my new fence plates?
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, James Zhu james.zhu2@...
[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
I do not think they will drill the fence for you.
The price on their website includes 19% VAT, so your cost is their
website price / 1.19 plus the shipping. The shipping cost varies depending
on the weight of the items.
You can just place the order on their website, if your order goes
through, it means your items are not over weight, so you will be charged
with standard 139..99 euro shipping charge. If your order does not go
through, you can contact them, or wait, then you will get a paypal payment
request which will include the total cost with the updated shipping charge,
if you are ok with it, you can pay thru paypal, then wait for your order.
James
On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:04 PM, patrick walsh pwalsh651@...
[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
Anyone know if you can get the fences that are drilled out for our
machines from this vendor?
If so anyone purchase them and have a idea what the final cost was
after shipping so forth and so on.
The fences have been high on my list for quite some time and I just
keep putting them off. Don¡¯t know why considering how much of my income I
continually spend on tools were to week n]month to month year to year..
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018, imranindiana@...
[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
FYI, bunch of us ordered Aigner stuff from
at much lower prices than in USA. They normally run an 8% discount
which helps offset the shipping charges.
It would be a PITA if there was an issue with the item but no one
here has voiced any issues with there orders.
Imran
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David,
I so how want to know how your shop is always so clean, if i dont do anything in mine it gets dirty.
Is there a hidden secret you have.
Glen
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Exactly Glen. ? Here¡¯s what my shop looks like when I¡¯m in build it mode:?
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My?guess is for people that are tight on space, In my case I don't expect to need to remove it as I have plenty of space however I might see the need to take it off if im going to do a lot of straight line ripping or general ripping because I might see that the outrigger could be awkward to walk around. but then I don't really know as I haven't used my machine yet. I will know soon.
Glen
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Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] KF 700 SP options
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Not my thread but may I ask why one would want to remove the outrigger table and fennec on a slider.
I don¡¯t have as much experience ona slider as manynhere so maybe Im missing something.?
I have been using a older Altendorf f45 now for the last 8 months at work ona daily basis and I just can¡¯t see why one would ever want to remove it?
I ask because I have a small basement shop much like David¡¯s and a slider will be making its way in over the next year so this conversation is very interesting to me..
Thank you and congrats on the new purchase. Very exciting for all us machinery nerds...
On Thursday, January 11, 2018, Bellsouth ?dohertyj@...?[felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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David,
Did you read Lucky¡¯s post about his feeder starting and stopping with the spindle?
Joe in New Orleans
This is confusing to me. ? How do you get the Comatic feeder to automatically start running when power is applied to it? ? If I start my Comatic feeder, unplug it, then plug it back in, it powers back up on the OFF mode and I have to press the start switch on the feeder again to get it running - which is the way it should be for safety purposes.. ? So I seriously doubt John¡¯s feeder starts running by itself when the shaper spindle switch is depressed.
Having the power to the PF unavailable if the shaper motor is not running would drive me nuts - setting up the feeder to track accurately is trial and error and I usually test the feeder tracking setup without the spindle turning until I¡¯m certain it¡¯s aligned properly. ??
David Best
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Gary,
That is interesting.
There must be options that can be set.
I think John Ferandin¡¯s Profile 45z has a time delay then starts the feeder after the spindle is started and then the feeder stops when the spindle stops.?
I never hooked my feeder to the shaper plug because I did not want to the feeder to start and stop this way.
Joe in New Orleans
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