If you have 125mm drops already without seeing the actual configuration I would run 2 of them and reduce at the machine. An alternative would be to run a new ?flexible 160 drop that divides with a Y into 2 100mm at the machine.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 3:28 AM, jonathansamways@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I'm about to hook up a drum sander in my shop.
The two top ports on the drum sander are 100mm
The sander needs to be mobile so tubing needs to be flexible (two pieces of flex both approx 2meters long)
My main duct is 160mm with drops at 125mm.
My question is do I go flexy 125 mm or 100mm to the machine.
Or any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jonathan
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I'm about to hook up a drum sander in my shop.
The two top ports on the drum sander are 100mm
The sander needs to be mobile so tubing needs to be flexible (two pieces of flex both approx 2meters long)
My main duct is 160mm with drops at 125mm.
My question is do I go flexy 125 mm or 100mm to the machine.
Or any other suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Jonathan
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Mine is a very old unit. Im not sure the exact year but it has the cast iron cover.?
I had been?thinking maybe i seated the bearings?wrong. But yes they are the right ones. I was walked through the purchase over at OWWM or whatever the sight is called. From what i was told this machine was one of the "good"old?ones.
Anyway this is a compressor conversation my bad. Lots of old comoressors to be had on craigslist in the northeast. I would have to know what i was looking for though.
On Thursday, February 2, 2017, murkyd@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Not everything old is good.? There are old machines that were mediocre or worse when they were new, and Delta made a lot in that category. ? In the middle of the last century they made a lot of stuff for hobbyists, high school shops, gas station/auto repair types, etc.? That said, I have a DP-17 and runout is not a problem.? Maybe your spindle is bent.? It's not a very heavy duty machine and has a pretty lightweight spindle.?
Most old air compressors are quality however.
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Are you sure you replaced with correct bearings and loaded them appropriately? ? I'm not familiar with the Delta but old DP often run angular contact bearings.? The bit runs out until pressure is applied and then the bearing tightens up.? The proper way
is to use two bearings opposed to each other and loaded.? Then there should be no runout .? The quill or taper itself could also be the problem which tougher to fix.? Dave
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Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Quincy compressors
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I got?to listen to a 2 horse California the other day.?
Whisper quiet!
My other choice was the two stage 5 horse 60 gallon Quincy.?
After Macs response i am thinking again.
Ill tell you this. I purchased a old Delta DP 17 over a new machine. I didnt know what i didnt know and just took it home thinking a overhaul wiuld fix any issue with runout. I replaced all the bearing and gave the thing a real good once over. Took it
apart piece by piece and did everything but paint it gefire putting it back together. The runout is terrible.?
Point is i still need a drill press after a solid 1.5 days work and $300 fort he machine and something around $100 for bearings. I really wish fir my purpose i had just purchased a new Delta or Powermatic. Or that new Nova mavhine. Probably also crap long
term but at least for now it will drill a straight hole. More than i can say for my Delta DP17.
Im sure old machines are much better over the long term. On the other hand you have to have the skill and desire to bring them back to life. Both of wich i found i dont have. Id rather be? making something or even better money.
So what would people purchase?if buying new??
On Thursday, February 2, 2017, scharmac@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I believe I have a same compressor with a vertical 26 gallon tank.? I bought it direct from the local Quincy rep and got the best price.? He told me it was all American made.? However when it arrived from Illinois, the motor was made in Mexico.? So I can't
say where they are made now.? I bought mine almost two years ago.? I was looking for an American made, or least one that wasn't made in Asia.
For reference on noise I just measured mine with an app on my iPhone.? I can't verify how accurate this is but the readings were:
Background: ?47 db
Compressor running: ?77db
Hope this helps.
Scott
Long Beach, Ca.
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Not everything old is good. ?There are old machines that were mediocre or worse when they were new, and Delta made a lot in that category. ? In the middle of the last century they made a lot of stuff for hobbyists, high school shops, gas station/auto repair types, etc. ?That said, I have a DP-17 and runout is not a problem. ?Maybe your spindle is bent. ?It's not a very heavy duty machine and has a pretty lightweight spindle.?
Most old air compressors are quality however.
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I got?to listen to a 2 horse California the other day.?
Whisper quiet!
My other choice was the two stage 5 horse 60 gallon Quincy.?
After Macs response i am thinking again.
Ill tell you this. I purchased a old Delta DP 17 over a new machine. I didnt know what i didnt know and just took it home thinking a overhaul wiuld fix any issue with runout. I replaced all the bearing and gave the thing a real good once over. Took it apart piece by piece and did everything but paint it gefire putting it back together. The runout is terrible.?
Point is i still need a drill press after a solid 1.5 days work and $300 fort he machine and something around $100 for bearings. I really wish fir my purpose i had just purchased a new Delta or Powermatic. Or that new Nova mavhine. Probably also crap long term but at least for now it will drill a straight hole. More than i can say for my Delta DP17.
Im sure old machines are much better over the long term. On the other hand you have to have the skill and desire to bring them back to life. Both of wich i found i dont have. Id rather be? making something or even better money.
So what would people purchase?if buying new??
On Thursday, February 2, 2017, scharmac@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I believe I have a same compressor with a vertical 26 gallon tank.? I bought it direct from the local Quincy rep and got the best price.? He told me it was all American made.? However when it arrived from Illinois, the motor was made in Mexico.? So I can't say where they are made now.? I bought mine almost two years ago.? I was looking for an American made, or least one that wasn't made in Asia.
For reference on noise I just measured mine with an app on my iPhone.? I can't verify how accurate this is but the readings were:
Background: ?47 db Compressor running: ?77db
Hope this helps.
Scott Long Beach, Ca.
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I believe I have a same compressor with a vertical 26 gallon tank. ?I bought it direct from the local Quincy rep and got the best price. ?He told me it was all American made. ?However when it arrived from Illinois, the motor was made in Mexico. ?So I can't say where they are made now. ?I bought mine almost two years ago. ?I was looking for an American made, or least one that wasn't made in Asia.
For reference on noise I just measured mine with an app on my iPhone. ?I can't verify how accurate this is but the readings were:
Background: ?47 db Compressor running: ?77db
Hope this helps.
Scott Long Beach, Ca.
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I went to the Cal Tools site.? The videos are impressive. What do
they build them from Acetal and Rulon?
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I second this recommendation.
David Best
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Take a look at the California Air
compressor. ?I have a 2hp 10 gallon with dryer. Very
quiet.
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There are 20
reviews of the compressor
here:
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I am
looking to replace
mine with this
Quincy
Single-Stage Air
Compressor ¡ª 2 HP,
115 Volt,
20-Gallon
Horizontal Tank,
Model#?Q12120PQ
?It's as
big? a compressor as
I can fit.? So the
question I have to
the assembled is : "Is it as
quiet as the rest
of the Quincy
line?"
That's
it.? Noise.? It's
the only
consideration.
My old? 30
year old Craftsman
5HP compressor?
sounds like a
chinmey falling on
asphalt.
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Re: For Sale: FY 2000, KF700; AD731; FB540; Oneida DC - Fresno, CA
Perhaps it is obvious to some but can you let me know the length of the slider and HP of the motors on the KF700. Was scoring option available then? Also, appears pre X-roll change.
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I also recommend the California Air Tools compressor, though mine (10020C) didn¡¯t have the built-in dryer. ??Remarkably quiet for a 5.5CFM, 2HP compressor.? ?Only plaint:? the two suction cup-like rubber feet had to be replaced.?? However, Daniel at Cal. Air Tools was kind enough to replace them under warranty with a newer, more durable version.?? Support there is extremely responsive. ? Whether or not you need a dryer depends on the humidity in your area and of course, what you are using the air for.?? If, like me, you are not using the air for applying finishes, and you live in an area not subject to high humidity, you may opt simply to run at least 40¡¯ of copper pipe (which cools and condenses out water vapor)? between the compressor and your nearest station, with the copper sloped toward drip legs.?? Would recommend also that you install an automatic (timer-operated) drain valve, which Cal Air Tools also sells (or could be obtained from Amazon or eBay). ??These can be had for about $100. ?
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I second this recommendation.
David Best
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Take a look at the California Air compressor. ?I have a 2hp 10 gallon with dryer. Very quiet.
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There are 20 reviews of the compressor here:
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I am looking to replace mine with this
Quincy Single-Stage Air
Compressor ¡ª 2 HP, 115 Volt, 20-Gallon Horizontal Tank,
Model#?Q12120PQ?It's as big? a compressor as I can fit.? So the question I have
to the assembled is : "Is it as quiet as the rest of the Quincy
line?" That's it.? Noise.? It's the only consideration.
My old? 30 year old Craftsman 5HP compressor? sounds like a
chinmey falling on asphalt.
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That thing looks wimpy , I would look for 2 stage cast iron head. ?5 hp ?minimum 20 years old at least and fairly easy to rebuild face the heads And replace the reed valves. ? Designing and building for 47 years
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On Feb 2, 2017, at 12:32 PM, Cliff rohrabacher@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I am looking to replace mine with this
Quincy Single-Stage Air
Compressor ¡ª 2 HP, 115 Volt, 20-Gallon Horizontal Tank,
Model#?Q12120PQ
?It's as big? a compressor as I can fit.? So the question I have
to the assembled is : "Is it as quiet as the rest of the Quincy
line?"
That's it.? Noise.? It's the only consideration.
My old? 30 year old Craftsman 5HP compressor? sounds like a
chinmey falling on asphalt.
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Take a look at the California Air compressor. ?I have a 2hp 10 gallon with dryer. Very quiet.
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There are 20 reviews of the compressor here:
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I am looking to replace mine with this
Quincy Single-Stage Air
Compressor ¡ª 2 HP, 115 Volt, 20-Gallon Horizontal Tank,
Model#?Q12120PQ?It's as big? a compressor as I can fit.? So the question I have
to the assembled is : "Is it as quiet as the rest of the Quincy
line?" That's it.? Noise.? It's the only consideration.
My old? 30 year old Craftsman 5HP compressor? sounds like a
chinmey falling on asphalt.
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I doubt it will be like the old QR series but check the rpm.? The slower the better.? the AL head will not absorb sound like the cast iron but probably not too bad.? I'd rehab an old 210 as they are easy to do but that is me.? Dave
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Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 1:47 PM
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There are 20 reviews of the compressor here:
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-Q12120PQ-Air-Compressor/p12332.html
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From: Cliff rohrabacher@... [felder-woodworking] ;
To: ;
Subject: [felder-woodworking] Quincy compressors
Sent: Thu, Feb 2, 2017 6:32:52 PM
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I am looking to replace mine with this
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www.northerntool.com
FREE SHIPPING ¡ª Quincy Single-Stage Air Compressor ¡ª 2 HP, 115 Volt, 20-Gallon Horizontal Tank, Model# Q12120PQ
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Quincy Single-Stage Air Compressor ¡ª 2 HP, 115 Volt, 20-Gallon Horizontal Tank, Model#?Q12120PQ
?It's as big? a compressor as I can fit.? So the question I have to the assembled is : "Is it as quiet as the rest of the Quincy line?"
That's it.? Noise.? It's the only consideration.
My old? 30 year old Craftsman 5HP compressor? sounds like a chinmey falling on asphalt.
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Belt drive is a lot quieter than direct drive. But, RPM is a key factor and didn't find the RPM spec on the compressor direct website. That compressor looks like an Asian built Quincy branded unit. The head looks like it could take 2HP to 5PH. With the lower HP motor they would run the pump slower and with a bigger motor they would run it faster. If true then it's probably pretty quiet.
I'd say get the RPM spec. and compare to other competitive models
I have an old Quincy model 325 pump that can run either 3HP at or 5HP at twice the speed. I put a 3HP motor on and run it slow to be quiet. I think mine is 450 RPM now or it would be 900 RPM with the 5HP motor which would make twice the CFM but with more noise.
Joe Jensen | VP Internet of Things Group | GM Retail Solutions Div.
480-554-8207-Office | 480-231-0669-Cell
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There are 20 reviews of the compressor here:
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-Q12120PQ-Air-Compressor/p12332.html
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From:
Cliff rohrabacher@... [felder-woodworking] ;
To:
Subject:
[felder-woodworking] Quincy compressors
Sent:
Thu, Feb 2, 2017 6:32:52 PM
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I am looking to replace mine with this
Quincy Single-Stage Air
Compressor ¡ª 2 HP, 115 Volt, 20-Gallon Horizontal Tank,
Model#?Q12120PQ
?It's as big? a compressor as I can fit.? So the question I have
to the assembled is : "Is it as quiet as the rest of the Quincy
line?"
That's it.? Noise.? It's the only consideration.
My old? 30 year old Craftsman 5HP compressor? sounds like a
chinmey falling on asphalt.
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I am looking to replace mine with this
Quincy Single-Stage Air
Compressor ¡ª 2 HP, 115 Volt, 20-Gallon Horizontal Tank,
Model#?Q12120PQ
?It's as big? a compressor as I can fit.? So the question I have
to the assembled is : "Is it as quiet as the rest of the Quincy
line?"
That's it.? Noise.? It's the only consideration.
My old? 30 year old Craftsman 5HP compressor? sounds like a
chinmey falling on asphalt.
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Re: For Sale: FY 2000, KF700; AD731; FB540; Oneida DC - Fresno, CA
Hello
I would be interested in the J/P, bandsaw and D/C. Let me know if you decide to split up the package. I'm not too far from you. Thanks.
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Re: Adjust shaper spindle to 90 on C3-41
It is probably a Scheibe (nylon disk) M10, P/N 404EA.? I now see how that keeps the shaft in place.
Jerry P
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For Sale: FY 2000, KF700; AD731; FB540; Oneida DC - Fresno, CA
I am moving to Colorado and my new house has no room for a shop that can house these machines.
Package price for all items below is $8500. If purchased separately at
the prices shown they would add up to $10,050. I have shown individual
prices but will wait to see if there is interest in the package. This is
a turnkey and complete dream woodworking shop.
1. Felder KF700 table saw/shaper with 1740 outrigger table. Upgraded to a
digital rip fence. 1.25 shaper spindle and high speed router spindle.
Power feeder. A few table saw blades. No shaper tooling. Single Phase
240V. Year 2000. $5500
2. Model AD731 12" Jointer/Planer. Felder four knife system. One spare set of blades. Year 2000. $2500.
3. Model FB540 21" Band saw. Year 2000. $1400.
4. Oneida cyclone dust collector. This is currently mounted in a dust
collector cabinet outside my garage and will need to be dis-mounted by
the buyer. $650
The saw/shaper and the jointer/planer are on Felder's mobility system
for which I have just one mobility bar. The bandsaw is on its own
independent rollers. I have multiple Felder odds and ends for all the
Felder machines.
I am a hobbyist who travels a lot for work and as such these machines
have spent most of their life waiting to be used. All Felder units are
in excellent condition. There are mild surface rust markings on the
table saw top and also on the J/P top but nothing that detracts from
functionality and usage.
I have the complete packing list for the Felder machines from Felder
Sacramento and will be happy to scan and send them to interested
parties.
Photos will be added tomorrow once i have cleared the stuff on the machines.
Terms:
1. All equipment is in my garage in Fresno, CA. You will need to load or
make other appropriate arrangements. All the machines will load easily
onto a trailer, a drop deck trailer, or a lift-gate equipped truck.
2. All machines are under power and can be demonstrated once I have established that you are a serious buyer.
3. All sales are final and there is no warranty offered or implied.
4. I will provide a bill of sale that all parties can sign.
Please contact me with any questions.
Thanks
Prabha
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David P. Best
Joe Jensen