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Re: Morso guillotine question
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Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
I've had the CT22E (5.7 gallon capacity, 134 CFM) for about 12 years in a one man shop. I use it for handheld router DC, Sanders and cleaning the floors. I guess this is almost a 26 in terms of capacity. Works fine for my use. Have to empty it a few times a year. On the sander, I have the Rotex (old version) and the ETS EC 150. The Rotex in aggressive mode is going to remove more material than the ETS EC?IME. I've never used an ETS150 so don't know how much of a difference you are going to see by moving to the EC - definitely around 40% lighter but don't know how much that is worth?to you? |
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Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
I've had a CT26 for years and like it.? I have an Oneida cyclone to ?catch the big stuff, so that my bags last longer. ? I am not a fan of the tool receptacle. ? Doesn't work consistently with festool cords so I have a work around tri plug. Hope that they have improved that, but otherwise a great vacuum.? Marlowe McGraw? On Feb 8, 2017 1:31 PM, "imranindiana@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Festool shop vac and sanders
Stephen I have both the 26 and 36. We had a recall on the Mini/Midi in Canada a few years due to lack of a CSA approval sticker and Festool replaced it with a CT26. If the vac is going to be shop based I would suggest the CTL36, basically same vac bigger capacity, the bags are just a little more expensive. I have had mine setup with the boomarm and WCR1000. Both make life easier. The new ETS EC sanders IMHO are a cross between the old ETS and RO's. Lots of power, I use the ETS EC 150/5 with the blue pad. Even with the larger orbit no swirls. I still really like my old ETS 150/3 for flat sanding but the instant stop has me using the new one more and more. The RO150 has its place especially in aggressive mode and is another much used tool. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:15 PM, S L ayesurely@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Festool shop vac and sanders
I currently have a CT Midi and have been wanting to add a larger capacity shop vac. I plan to use it with router, domino xl and sanders , freeing up the midi for use on bobbin sander mitre saw etc. mitre saw currently has no extraction so this will be an?improvement (?although I have read that the bigger vac works better for mitre saws.) I'm looking at the CTL 26 and just wanted to hear any feedback on it. is moving up to the CTL 36 a good or bad idea? i've had the rotex on my shopping list for some time now as I found my?ETS 150/3 lacked aggression when needed? recent posts have also hiighighted the ETS EC 150 and wanted to know how much of a difference I would?notice compared to the ETS 150 ....I guess buying the EC version will?partly make the ETS redundant in my one man shop, but if there is significant improvement in terms of comfort in use, less fatigue etc then I might just pick it up. regards Stephen |
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Re: Morso guillotine question
Yah I know David it would be pretty boring if there was only one choice, but I couldn't resist. By the way I won the bet with myself on who would be the first to comeback. All hail the Unicorn. LOL Have a great day. On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:08 PM, 'david@bestservices IMAP 2' david@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJohn,?And Grizzly dominates the woodworking equipment industry - so what. ?Doesn¡¯t mean their products are high quality. ?I prefer Mac for my personal use as it lets me focus on being creative instead of being tech dweeb. ? Plus I embrace diversity. ?? Cntl-Alt-Del. :-) David Best
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJoel,Unless you want to tweak some of the specific parameters of the Greenbox 12, you don¡¯t need to use a computer to get it working well - it runs right out of the box with the same functionality as the original smaller Greenbox. If you want (as an example) for the dust collector to continue to run for 10 seconds after you shut off a specific machine, you¡¯ll need a PC connected to the Greenbox 12 to make those kind of changes. ?? I successfully manage my Greenbox 12 with the Ecogate application running on my MacBook Pro under Windows XP under Parallels (which I have for other applications). ? But in order to get that configuration working, I had to buy a USB to to serial cable and download and install drivers for same under Windows - which is not something I¡¯d recommend you try unless you are proficient in the arcane science of Window¡¯s drivers, DLL¡¯s etc (none of which we have to deal with on the Mac). ? To use the ¡°PC you borrow from your neighbor¡± you¡¯d have to configure it with the same USB-serial cable drivers, so I think the Ecogate tech guy is blowing smoke up your behind. ? ?Or, if you want something less challenging than trying to get oddball drivers working under Windows, you could wonder down this path: ??? You could also, since you¡¯re buddies with Scott Slater, clone his PLC implementation of the Greenbox functionality. David Best
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou Mac guys have to release no matter what you think of Microsoft the world runs on Windows for better or worse. If Gates hadn't bailed out Apple years ago it probably would just be a foot note in the history books. LOL.? John JMK Services? -------- Original message --------
From: "joelgelman@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> Date: 2017-02-08 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: felder-woodworking@... Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Morso guillotine question ? Well, I am also a Mac person. ?I see that the new Ecogate Greenbox 12 came with a more lengthy manual and a cable to connect to a Windows computer so obviously that means the new unit has more features than the old Greenbox, but also that means I need a PC to set it up and the setup is not as simple. I called Ecogate tech support and explained I do not have a PC and Windows and do not want to buy one to be able to use this new device. ?I just want simple, like with the old Greenbox. ?What was suggested is that I do the connections of the blast gates to the wires and to the Greenbox and borrow a PC one time from someone to connect, then call him, and he can remote in to do all of the setup for me, which would take him 10-15 min. I will see how that goes. ?I am not looking to make any changes after initial setup. I just want it so I turn on a machine, and that blast gate opens and the others close and the dust collector then turns on, and then shuts off shortly after I turn my machine off, and if I have 2 machines running at the same time, blast gates for whatever is running are open. ?Perhaps the only thing I should consider now that I have a more powerful collector than my previous Oneida and several machines that run on 4 inch gates, is if I need more open than a 4 inch gate to have some minimum airflow.
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Re: Morso guillotine question
Well, I am also a Mac person. ?I see that the new Ecogate Greenbox 12 came with a more lengthy manual and a cable to connect to a Windows computer so obviously that means the new unit has more features than the old Greenbox, but also that means I need a PC to set it up and the setup is not as simple.
I called Ecogate tech support and explained I do not have a PC and Windows and do not want to buy one to be able to use this new device. ?I just want simple, like with the old Greenbox. ?What was suggested is that I do the connections of the blast gates to the wires and to the Greenbox and borrow a PC one time from someone to connect, then call him, and he can remote in to do all of the setup for me, which would take him 10-15 min. I will see how that goes. ?I am not looking to make any changes after initial setup. I just want it so I turn on a machine, and that blast gate opens and the others close and the dust collector then turns on, and then shuts off shortly after I turn my machine off, and if I have 2 machines running at the same time, blast gates for whatever is running are open. ?Perhaps the only thing I should consider now that I have a more powerful collector than my previous Oneida and several machines that run on 4 inch gates, is if I need more open than a 4 inch gate to have some minimum airflow. |
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Re: Morso guillotine question
I especially like the fact that the Greenbox is compatible with an off-the-shelf, easy to install current sensor for triggering the gate and extractor startup - available here (Ecogate sells them for $100 - rip-off):
My only frustration with the Greenbox system is that it requires a Window's computer to change any of the programming on the Greenbox. I'm an all Mac shop and while it is possible to run the Ecogate configuration software under Parallels on the Mac, it's requires you have both Parallels and a Windows license and is really nerdy to get working properly, so buying a dedicated $300 Dell laptop is probably a better approach than trying to make a Mac do the job. David Best David, I found a 15" Panel PC on ebay that came with Windows loaded. I mounted it in the shop next to the dust collector so I don't have to futz with USB to parallel port adaptors etc. Works great. I watched for a few weeks and found one removed from old equipment for $150. Joe Jensen | VP Internet of Things Group | GM Retail Solutions Div. 480-554-8207-Office | 480-231-0669-Cell [banner 2016] |
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Re: Morso guillotine question
From: 'david@bestservices IMAP 2' david@... [felder-woodworking] ; To: ; Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Morso guillotine question Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 5:01:56 PM
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Re: California tool Compressor
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they say it'll come Feb 17 - 28th So maybe their production is ramping up
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I got the warranty Meeh' What's another 76 bucks and it's two additional years. I'm clad I called them because I was unable to find the spendier model on Amazon with the dryer after cooler and the auto drain. The Comparable Quincy would have been almost a Grand and I couldn't fit it, because they build 'em too tall for my location. This one has the CFM for a 3/8" air drill which I use when sanding on the lathe On 2/6/2017 11:41 PM, Lance Clifford offaces@... [felder-woodworking] wrote:
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI¡¯ll echo this sentiment. ? I started with the 8-gate Ecogate system, mostly 6¡±, some 5¡± and a few of the original all metal 4¡± gates. ?Upgraded to the Greenbox 12 when I needed more control over the gates and extractor triggering/run-time. ? I¡¯ve been very happy with this setup: ? ???I especially like the fact that the Greenbox is compatible with an off-the-shelf, easy to install current sensor for triggering the gate and extractor startup - available here (Ecogate sells them for $100 - rip-off): ?? My only frustration with the Greenbox system is that it requires a Window¡¯s computer to change any of the programming on the Greenbox. ?I¡¯m an all Mac shop and while it is possible to run the Ecogate configuration software under Parallels on the Mac, it¡¯s requires you have both Parallels and a Windows license and is really nerdy to get working properly, so buying a dedicated $300 Dell laptop is probably a better approach than trying to make a Mac do the job. David Best
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Re: Mirka Ceros the whole kit
From: andy.giddings@... [felder-woodworking] ; To: ; Subject: [felder-woodworking] Re: Mirka Ceros the whole kit Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 3:09:03 PM
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Re: Morso guillotine question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI too use Ecogate and I¡¯ve been very satisfied.? I started with a that base 8 gate system in 2005 and I¡¯ve since upgraded to a greenbox 12.? I have mostly 6¡± gates and a few 5¡± gates.? The small plastic ¡°Consumer¡± 4¡± gates are pretty much junk. ? |
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Re: Mirka Ceros the whole kit
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIt would be interesting to see if you can make them work. The thicker Festool ?blades have been available since that 2008, they really have no relation to the Cravex. My son has the Cravex and is 60/40 on it. I wouldn't mind trying the latest and greatest Bosch, it's seems to be that Bosch jigsaw people are the Bosch or nothing type. I just can't wrap my head around auto adjustment of the stabilizing ?jaws being better than something you can fine tune if needed.? John JMK Services? -------- Original message --------
From: "Lance Clifford offaces@... [felder-woodworking]" <felder-woodworking@...> Date: 2017-02-07 9:30 AM (GMT-05:00) To: yahoogroups <felder-woodworking@...> Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Mirka Ceros the whole kit ?
From: John Kee jmkserv@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...>; To: FOG <felder-woodworking@...>; Subject: Re: [felder-woodworking] Mirka Ceros the whole kit Sent: Tue, Feb 7, 2017 12:57:04 PM
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