Re: Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
Joe, I have had the same experience as you have.? Carl has been great for Felder and SCM so far has been great also with Sam.? I called Felder a few times for support and they were good.? Shipping, not so good. For SCM, the call to support was great and they followed up.? SCM is launching an on-line system for owners to be able to order parts etc on June 1st.   ? PK
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Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
I¡¯m at a point in life where customer service/support is a priority. We all see horror stories here on terrible support. I personally have had great phone support from Carl my Felder rep. I¡¯ve also had shockingly good help from SCMI on a 1975 jointer. ?On the other hand a have a friend who has had horrible support k. Canada from both SCMI and Martin. Thoughts?
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I use them on drawers and doors, and let me know what you find. I think I got my last batch from Hafele and they have worked well on the doors, but for some reason they keep sliding around and falling off on drawers.
Brian Lamb
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On May 26, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
I am building a kitchen for my daughter. ?Shaker painters doors. ?I will use silicone bumpers on the doors. Assume I should for the drawer fronts too? ?Does anyone have any favorites that don¡¯t fall off in a couple of years?
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On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 04:58 PM, Shinta Wakahisa wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just about finish a shop addition and will have a 13.5-foot ceiling.? Climbing up and down ladders gets old real quick not to mention it is a bit scary working on such a tall ladder, so looking into a slab scissor lift.? 2632, 26-ft rise, 32-inch platform width seems ideal.? The 1932 isn't much cheaper.? Genie, Skyjack, JLG, etc.? Old vs new?? Anyone has gone through this and has some sage advice to impart?? I would love to hear.? Thought about rent, but would rather have one on hand for future use.??
Thanks!
SW
?You're looking at the wrong size the 2632 is giant, 1.it's way to big for maneuvering inside a shop 2.even when collapsed it's still tall, and climbing up and down will be tiring 3.wieghs 5000lbs so transportation can be difficult? Look for 19ft lift, it'll be much better for your use especially when your cieling is 13.5ft. Keep in mind 26ft lift gives you 30ft working height with you on it and 19ft will give you 24ft working height I owned before a few genie and skyjack 19ft and 26ft, now for shop maintenance I have small 12ft scissor lift that is perfect for my 15' cieling I'd go with used over new, these are pretty simple machines and they have good phone technical support. Usually the machines that the big company's liquidating to auctions look like shit but in a fair mechanical condition because they have inspections every 3 months
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3M bumpers tend to last the longest.
If you want a more permanent solution you¡¯ll need bumpers with a tenon that mount in a 3 or 5 mm hole. They are more expensive and time consuming to install though.
D
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I am building a kitchen for my daughter. ?Shaker painters doors. ?I will use silicone bumpers on the doors. Assume I should for the drawer fronts too? ?Does anyone have any favorites that don¡¯t fall off in a couple of years?
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Re: What other tool forums do you follow?
I'm a member of Sawmillcreek.org and a moderator on Canadianwoodworking.com
Regards, Rod.
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? ? ?That's a beautiful machine. Just one thing, wondering if you can talk to my wife and convince her to welcome it into our family? Thanks? Lol,? ?Tom Ruth
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sliding table not traveling straight.
Hey!
2022 felder k740 with 2800mm sliding table (xroll)
I need som help to figure out what to do about my sliding table.
I¡¯ve always gotten a curved cut when straight line ripping sheet goods. But I always thought it was my fault for not doing it properly.
But today I tried to measure the distance from the t slot to the blade at various points of sliding table.
made up a jigg til securely hold a piece of mdf to the t slot, I then cute said piece at the very end of the sliding table, then used that as a gauge to se if it would stay the same distance from the blade along the whole travel of sliding table.?
then I noticed it, it¡¯s about 0.6mm closer to the blade at the middle position, and about 0,4mm further away at the end..
I know the sliding is supposed to toe outward through out it¡¯s travel, and 0,4mm toe out along 2800mm seem good to me.?
my problem is that dip toward the blade in middle position¡?
making a slight 0,6mm curv in the center of my workpieces.
is there a way to adjust this?
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Aren¡¯t you measuring the wrong board? Lol. Elwin
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On May 25, 2023, at 11:56 AM, David P. Best <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
? Thanks for the photos. ?As has been commented on before, some people don¡¯t have an issue with the bat ears, others do. ?That said, my bat ears are bigger than your bat ears. ??
David Best
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On May 25, 2023, at 6:52 AM, Steven B <sb@...> wrote:
Having yet to actually mount the Felder dado set and make some cuts, I figured this would be a good way to do some tests and see for myself the "bat ears".
Each dado measures 7mm H x 12mm W
I cut some white oak without a sacrificial board, no tear out on the cross grain. I've marked the cuts infeed/outfeed. The bat ears measure less than 0.5mm
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I also cut some Colorfin plywood. It is notorious for chipping out very easily. The Felder dado set cut it perfectly with no chipout on the face. The dado also measures 7mm H x 12mm W
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For what it's worth, the bat ears are barely perceptible. Like Mac said get out your microscope.?This next photo was taken from my eye level with the pieces on the sliding table. You can't see them at all.
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Hope that is helpful for anyone else wondering.
Steve
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Thanks for the photos. ?As has been commented on before, some people don¡¯t have an issue with the bat ears, others do. ?That said, my bat ears are bigger than your bat ears. ??
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On May 25, 2023, at 6:52 AM, Steven B <sb@...> wrote:
Having yet to actually mount the Felder dado set and make some cuts, I figured this would be a good way to do some tests and see for myself the "bat ears".
Each dado measures 7mm H x 12mm W
I cut some white oak without a sacrificial board, no tear out on the cross grain. I've marked the cuts infeed/outfeed. The bat ears measure less than 0.5mm
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I also cut some Colorfin plywood. It is notorious for chipping out very easily. The Felder dado set cut it perfectly with no chipout on the face. The dado also measures 7mm H x 12mm W
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For what it's worth, the bat ears are barely perceptible. Like Mac said get out your microscope.?This next photo was taken from my eye level with the pieces on the sliding table. You can't see them at all.
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Hope that is helpful for anyone else wondering.
Steve
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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Having yet to actually mount the Felder dado set and make some cuts, I figured this would be a good way to do some tests and see for myself the "bat ears". Each dado measures 7mm H x 12mm W I cut some white oak without a sacrificial board, no tear out on the cross grain. I've marked the cuts infeed/outfeed. The bat ears measure less than 0.5mm   I also cut some Colorfin plywood. It is notorious for chipping out very easily. The Felder dado set cut it perfectly with no chipout on the face. The dado also measures 7mm H x 12mm W    For what it's worth, the bat ears are barely perceptible. Like Mac said get out your microscope.?This next photo was taken from my eye level with the pieces on the sliding table. You can't see them at all.  Hope that is helpful for anyone else wondering. Steve
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Hi, I find the following for the 125mm rebate head
1) it fits below the table
2) the radius is small enough to match most furniture requirements?
3) there are many bearing type guide rings at, and below that size making it good for pattern copying of rebates
Regards, Rod
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Re: A3-31 setup and calibration
If I have a choice I always adjust the non hinge side
For the A3 you put a 0.15mm feeler gauge under the straight edge at the far end of the hinge side of the outfeed table the raise the infeed table using the depth of cut lever until it just touches the straight edge at some point
Now adjust the hinge side until the table has no light under the straight edge while repeating the above.
Move the feeler gauge and straight edge to the operator side and repeat the above steps.
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Hi, new unused D951 for sale still have the original pallet and foot mount cleats for shipping asking $14,000 firm on that for the moment.? Machine is three phase 7.5hp spiral cutter head still under warranty. Small side story I bought a used industrial dust collector awhile back out of state seller stated they had pallet for shipping. I show up with rental truck pallet is two feet short and no power at the shop. Criminy off to home depot I drop $500 on cordless tools, 2x4s and ply charge tools in vehicle then build a pallet. Super sucked.? I can pick you up at airport, drive you to rental truck or just have this ready to go up to you.??Forklift and pallet jack on hand for loading, prefer local pickup but can do LTL.? Location is Cleveland zip 44256. Reason for selling: I upgraded to a Martin package.     Jay Bowen Cleveland
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I would Criss cross strap to the tunnel under the tables. Hold down the machine with the felder clips and box base to deck with 2x4¡¯s? Lock tables down take . cover with plastic and stretch wrap machine if there is a chance of rain.? Don¡¯t lift or move with tables. Designing and building for 50 years
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On May 24, 2023, at 8:38 PM, michaelcavis@... wrote:
?Hello and thank you in advance for any input. I am a proud new owner of a 2012 AD741, not the new body style but the one that the base steps down in width. I have gathered I think on this forum that it can be lifted from the point where the base steps down in width. Basically at the bottom of the planer. Is that correct? And What is the best way to strap it to a trailer for a 4 hr Highway trip? Is putting straps under the tables, where the hinges and locking points are okay? Obviously I don¡¯t want to throw the tables off by strapping over them. Thanks again for your advice.
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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This has been discussed and debated several times over the years here on FOG. ?Have a look at the following threads in the archive:
Personally, I think it all depends on the type of projects you are tackling. ?It is true that the nickers will yield better cross-grain joints, and tend to limit chip-out, particularly with the top veneers on plywood with hardwood faces, and with melemine particle board. ?The Felder dado cutters also produce a true flat bottom. ?But if you¡¯re planning to do things like make Green & Green or Scandinavian bridle joints, like the one shown below, you either hate them or find them enhancing the overall ¡°craftiness¡± of the joint. ?
The nickers on the Felder unit are carbide, and thus challenging to ¡°hone down¡± - I did it once for a project and don¡¯t recommend it. ?I have a pair of Forrest Dado King 12¡± sets that I had bored to 30mm and the pin holes installed which when sharp deal with cross-grain chip-out as any ATB style saw blade. ?I don¡¯t use them often, but they have served me well, especially when cutting very deep tenons on the shaper for projects like Post & Rail fences. ?See below:
David Best
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On May 24, 2023, at 3:59 PM, murrayau1 <murrayp@...> wrote:
I¡¯m just wondering if there is any consensus on the significance of the ¡°bat ears¡° issue? Lucky, you do fine work, do you find this to be a problem? Has anyone honed ?the nickers, if so, how do you go about it.
Thanks.
Murray.
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Hello and thank you in advance for any input. I am a proud new owner of a 2012 AD741, not the new body style but the one that the base steps down in width. I have gathered I think on this forum that it can be lifted from the point where the base steps down in width. Basically at the bottom of the planer. Is that correct? And What is the best way to strap it to a trailer for a 4 hr Highway trip? Is putting straps under the tables, where the hinges and locking points are okay? Obviously I don¡¯t want to throw the tables off by strapping over them. Thanks again for your advice.
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Re: Felder Silent Power Dado 6.3-20mm
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I agree with Lucky, the bat ears are visible but I don¡¯t design furniture with exposed dados. Also they serve to make exceptionally clean cuts.?
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On May 24, 2023, at 6:19 PM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:
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Hi Murray:
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Very kind of you to say that.
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I do not find the bat ears to be a negativity and therefore have not tried to ¡°hone them down¡±. They are big enough to see, for sure, and in fine furniture if the joint were exposed, you would definitely see
them. But by definition, I don¡¯t see many (any?) instances where an exposed joint of that type is compatible with fine furniture.
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My main use for the dado is for grooving of drawer parts, machining lapped joints, even making tenons (even though technically that ought to be done on the shaper). For each of these three examples, the bat
ears have no bearing and do not show (except maybe at the back of a drawer so there is that).
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If a furniture design called for a full, open groove or trench, exposed for the world to see, then I¡¯d explore a different machinery method ¨C probably a router.
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Bottom line, the bat ears are rarely a problem and if they are, there¡¯s always an alternative. Personally, I don¡¯t see the dado design to be a shortcoming. Those bat ears give me exceptionally sharp crosscuts
(e.g. half-lap joints), and any ¡°ears¡± from the nickers are hidden. If the cutter didn¡¯t have those nickers, the crosscuts would not be nearly so clean ¨C especially in cantankerous hardwoods like I often use.
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Consequently, the dado cutter is perfect for my needs. I hope this is useful.
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Dr David Luckensmeyer
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I¡¯m just wondering if there is any consensus on the significance of the ¡°bat ears¡° issue? Lucky, you do fine work, do you find this to be a problem? Has anyone honed ?the nickers, if so, how do you go about
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