I think the quality of the grind is more important than Trimaster Vs CT.? I've had too many people preferring either to guess which is best.? The Trimaster has more carbide but a fast running saw likes the 1.3.? My experience has been that if one tooth is slightly
off it really shows in the cut.? Dave
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Jason:
I have not done that and I wonder too. But I know the CT Woodmaster is much less expensive than the Trimaster and I get a demonstrably better cut and it cuts faster. As a result, I will not buy another Trimaster. Each to their own.
Lucky
On 25 Nov 2020, at 7:15 am, Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote:
I had a Trimaster previously, and I got a lot of mileage out of it until I cut some anigre which is high in silica.
I do wonder about the whole carbide/steel argument?though. Obviously?the?carbide?will outlast. In most other cases, planer knives, lathe tooling, etc. the sharp tool steel is a better cut than carbide. The Wood Slicer blades are $45 a piece for
our saw and the cut is amazing. I can buy 6 for the price of the Trimaster. Wonder how that math would come out factoring in resharpening of the carbide, possibility of needing more cleanup after cutting etc.
Has someone done this for me already?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765
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Jason:
I have not done that and I wonder too. But I know the CT Woodmaster is much less expensive than the Trimaster and I get a demonstrably better cut and it cuts faster. As a result, I will not buy another Trimaster. Each to their own.
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On 25 Nov 2020, at 7:15 am, Jason Holtz < jholtzy@...> wrote:
I had a Trimaster previously, and I got a lot of mileage out of it until I cut some anigre which is high in silica.
I do wonder about the whole carbide/steel argument?though. Obviously?the?carbide?will outlast. In most other cases, planer knives, lathe tooling, etc. the sharp tool steel is a better cut than carbide. The Wood Slicer blades are $45 a piece for our saw and the cut is amazing. I can buy 6 for the price of the Trimaster. Wonder how that math would come out factoring in resharpening of the carbide, possibility of needing more cleanup after cutting etc.
Has someone done this for me already?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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I had a Trimaster previously, and I got a lot of mileage out of it until I cut some anigre which is high in silica.
I do wonder about the whole carbide/steel argument?though. Obviously?the?carbide?will outlast. In most other cases, planer knives, lathe tooling, etc. the sharp tool steel is a better cut than carbide. The Wood Slicer blades are $45 a piece for our saw and the cut is amazing. I can buy 6 for the price of the Trimaster. Wonder how that math would come out factoring in resharpening of the carbide, possibility of needing more cleanup after cutting etc.
Has someone done this for me already?
Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?
I¡¯m happy to share once I receive it. ? Regards, ? Chris Perren 512-415-6951 ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 1:54 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw? ? would you please share your experience with the green laser. i would like to know if you can see it easily in well lit shop.
On Nov 22, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:
? Thanks ¨C I¡¯m going to give it spin¡ worse case its $50 on a proof of concept. ? Regards, ? Chris Perren 512-415-6951 ? ? In the ad it says1-2mm wide at 1m, and 2-3mm wide at 3m. So I¡¯m guessing about 2mm, and given your blade is about 3mm, that should be fine enough. ? On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote: ? Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.? ?No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
Ariel
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Chris,
would you please share your experience with the green laser. i would like to know if you can see it easily in well lit shop.
imran
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On Nov 22, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote: ? Thanks ¨C I¡¯m going to give it spin¡ worse case its $50 on a proof of concept. ? Regards, ? Chris Perren 512-415-6951 ? ? In the ad it says1-2mm wide at 1m, and 2-3mm wide at 3m. So I¡¯m guessing about 2mm, and given your blade is about 3mm, that should be fine enough. ? On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote: ? Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.? ?No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
Ariel
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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?
first i found my ebay purchase and the laser i bought says 5mW so 50mW aught to be much brighter.
i took mine off the ceiling since saw has been moved. i tried it on the overhead saw guard but it was very faint at 10¡¯. here is a pic with lights off to see laser better.
i tested and found that mounting it on wall in the middle of extended slider works better, at least for this low power laser. i also think it is better to not be mounted on machine as there is some vibration, albeit small. here is a pic with laser mounted on wall.
wall mount
imran?
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On Nov 22, 2020, at 10:41 PM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote: ?
Just a thought,? If you screw a strap of steel to two roof trusses and have a magnetic mount you can move side to side and angle easily.
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No need to do much hacking:
It includes power supply and a mount.
Ariel
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Re: Felder slotting cutter
You can use bushings that are bored like used in dado cutters on three outsides to offset the studs or pull the studs out on shaper it won¡¯t beam issue Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 24, 2020, at 11:55 AM, David Davies <myfinishingtouch@...> wrote:
? With the pin holes on the blades would you be able to offset the teeth so you can overlap them? Thanks Dave Thanks Mac, that was my next question! On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
?U may be able to overlap and use more than one if body diameter is les than tip which mor than likly is? Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years ?Thanks David, good info thanks and for the comments ?I own and have used both the 4 and 6mm slot cutters you call out. ? They work fine provides you employ a backer board when cutting into end-grain for joinery - chip-out is very severe without one.? My use with them has been drawer bottom slots, as well as cutting finger joints for small boxes.? They do not produce the same quality cuts as the adjustable groovers with side-nickers such as the one shown in the last photo below.? I also have a couple of Leitz saw blades I had custom ground for flat-bottom groove cutting at even narrower widths.? What else would you like to know?
Hi Michael, tooth width is 5 mm so suppose the main use would be for drawer bottoms ?
Wider blade with an exact 4mm vs 3.4mm. Seems like a super niche product to me. Went with a flat top tip blade but haven¡¯t had the opportunity to use it yet, all my cuts have been managed by the Felder adjustable groovers this far.?
Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry?
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?Anyone have experience with the Felder slotting cutter? Looking to use it as a joinery blade for cutting tenons, bridle joints anywhere i might want a flat bottom cut. Is there an advantage to the slotting cutter over a rip with FTC?
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The resaw King runs a thinner band than the Lenox and I've heard it cuts a little slower.? It is good for saws that can't tension the .035 Lenox band but the Trimaster or CT are most peoples first choice.? If you change blades a lot you want to be sure the
wheels track as it is easy to believe the blade will stay in place until the machine really spins up and if it moves forward into the guard, nothing good happens.? Heat is also an enemy so spinning the back bearing is something I avoid.? Dave
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Chris,? I have the Lenox WoodMASTER CT? 1" 1.3 TPI.? I don't think anyone is resharpening these.? It's too bad as it's an amazing blade.? I have no experience with the Laguna, so can't say which is better.? The Laguna can be resharpened and I imagine it's
a great blade also. I'm still on my first Lenox blade after two years and and a lot of cutting. I made 800 sf of maple engineered flooring with this blade, cutting 6" to 9" stock.
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With the pin holes on the blades would you be able to offset the teeth so you can overlap them? Thanks Dave
Thanks Mac, that was my next question! On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
?U may be able to overlap and use more than one if body diameter is les than tip which mor than likly is? Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years ?Thanks David, good info thanks and for the comments ?I own and have used both the 4 and 6mm slot cutters you call out. ? They work fine provides you employ a backer board when cutting into end-grain for joinery - chip-out is very severe without one.? My use with them has been drawer bottom slots, as well as cutting finger joints for small boxes.? They do not produce the same quality cuts as the adjustable groovers with side-nickers such as the one shown in the last photo below.? I also have a couple of Leitz saw blades I had custom ground for flat-bottom groove cutting at even narrower widths.? What else would you like to know?
Hi Michael, tooth width is 5 mm so suppose the main use would be for drawer bottoms ?
Wider blade with an exact 4mm vs 3.4mm. Seems like a super niche product to me. Went with a flat top tip blade but haven¡¯t had the opportunity to use it yet, all my cuts have been managed by the Felder adjustable groovers this far.?
Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry?
Get
?Anyone have experience with the Felder slotting cutter? Looking to use it as a joinery blade for cutting tenons, bridle joints anywhere i might want a flat bottom cut. Is there an advantage to the slotting cutter over a rip with FTC?
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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nice. never thought of building engineered flooring. what was your reason to do so, considering it is likely not cost effective (i could be wrong since i have not looked at prices but it is hard to beat mass production efficiency)?
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is it wider than what you could buy?
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obviously, total selection of wood has it¡¯s value. if possible, please share how you did it, including choice of joinery. is it a floating installation?
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imran
On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:22 PM, tomruth@... wrote:
Engineered flooring I cut with the Lenox CT
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Thanks Mac, that was my next question!
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On Nov 24, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Airtight: Clamps by Air Compression <airtightclamps@...> wrote:
? U may be able to overlap and use more than one if body diameter is les than tip which mor than likly is? Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Thanks David, good info thanks and for the comments On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:12 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I own and have used both the 4 and 6mm slot cutters you call out. ? They work fine provides you employ a backer board when cutting into end-grain for joinery - chip-out is very severe without one. ?My use with them has been drawer bottom slots, as well as cutting finger joints for small boxes. ?They do not produce the same quality cuts as the adjustable groovers with side-nickers such as the one shown in the last photo below. ?I also have a couple of Leitz saw blades I had custom ground for flat-bottom groove cutting at even narrower widths. ?What else would you like to know?
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Hi Michael, tooth width is 5 mm so suppose the main use would be for drawer bottoms ?
Wider blade with an exact 4mm vs 3.4mm. Seems like a super niche product to me. Went with a flat top tip blade but haven¡¯t had the opportunity to use it yet, all my cuts have been managed by the Felder adjustable groovers this far.?
Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry?
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?Anyone have experience with the Felder slotting cutter? Looking to use it as a joinery blade for cutting tenons, bridle joints anywhere i might want a flat bottom cut. Is there an advantage to the slotting cutter over a rip with FTC?
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Thanks Tom.. I¡¯m leaning toward the Lenox Tri-master for my new ¡°used¡± MM16..? I¡¯m not a fan of de-tension a blades at the end of the job. Plus I¡¯ve actually mess up a blade by turning the saw on while the blade was de-tension¡ ????????? ? Regards, ? Chris Perren 512-415-6951 ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of tomruth@... Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 11:20 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] New resaw setup ? Chris,? I have the Lenox WoodMASTER CT? 1" 1.3 TPI.? I don't think anyone is resharpening these.? It's too bad as it's an amazing blade.? I have no experience with the Laguna, so can't say which is better.? The Laguna can be resharpened and I imagine it's a great blade also. I'm still on my first Lenox blade after two years and and a lot of cutting. I made 800 sf of maple engineered flooring with this blade, cutting 6" to 9" stock.
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Chris,? I have the Lenox WoodMASTER CT? 1" 1.3 TPI.? I don't think anyone is resharpening these.? It's too bad as it's an amazing blade.? I have no experience with the Laguna, so can't say which is better.? The Laguna can be resharpened and I imagine it's a great blade also. I'm still on my first Lenox blade after two years and and a lot of cutting. I made 800 sf of maple engineered flooring with this blade, cutting 6" to 9" stock.
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I'm using a 1" x .035 x 1.3 Teeth per inch.? Lenox Woodmaster Carbide. I did detention it for a while but lately I've been lazy.? Seems to be fine. I only use it for resaw.? I'm still on my first blade and have cut miles of hardwood with it. I don't use it if there is a chance of any metal etc in the wood.? I think a 16" bandsaw is about the minimum wheel size you are supposed to use. But you might want to check on that to be sure.
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U may be able to overlap and use more than one if body diameter is les than tip which mor than likly is? Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Thanks David, good info thanks and for the comments On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:12 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I own and have used both the 4 and 6mm slot cutters you call out. ? They work fine provides you employ a backer board when cutting into end-grain for joinery - chip-out is very severe without one. ?My use with them has been drawer bottom slots, as well as cutting finger joints for small boxes. ?They do not produce the same quality cuts as the adjustable groovers with side-nickers such as the one shown in the last photo below. ?I also have a couple of Leitz saw blades I had custom ground for flat-bottom groove cutting at even narrower widths. ?What else would you like to know?
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Hi Michael, tooth width is 5 mm so suppose the main use would be for drawer bottoms ?
Wider blade with an exact 4mm vs 3.4mm. Seems like a super niche product to me. Went with a flat top tip blade but haven¡¯t had the opportunity to use it yet, all my cuts have been managed by the Felder adjustable groovers this far.?
Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry?
Get
?Anyone have experience with the Felder slotting cutter? Looking to use it as a joinery blade for cutting tenons, bridle joints anywhere i might want a flat bottom cut. Is there an advantage to the slotting cutter over a rip with FTC?
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I bought the 230mm option to use on my Felder BF631 earlier this year to help with making some large tenons for my homemade workbench. I found it much safer to be able to clamp down the tenons flat (with a backer board) on a simple jig locked to the sliding table.I forgot to take photos of the jig but attached are some photos of the tenons prior to making the shoulder cut on the table saw (also flat clamping, no handling workpieces high up away from the table), and afterwards, as part of the frame and workbench. Very pleased with the cutter, was able to cut tenons around 80mm long, perhaps even a bit more, and very stable in the spindle.
Davide
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Thanks David, good info thanks and for the comments
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On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:12 PM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? I own and have used both the 4 and 6mm slot cutters you call out. ? They work fine provides you employ a backer board when cutting into end-grain for joinery - chip-out is very severe without one. ?My use with them has been drawer bottom slots, as well as cutting finger joints for small boxes. ?They do not produce the same quality cuts as the adjustable groovers with side-nickers such as the one shown in the last photo below. ?I also have a couple of Leitz saw blades I had custom ground for flat-bottom groove cutting at even narrower widths. ?What else would you like to know?
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Hi Michael, tooth width is 5 mm so suppose the main use would be for drawer bottoms ?
Wider blade with an exact 4mm vs 3.4mm. Seems like a super niche product to me. Went with a flat top tip blade but haven¡¯t had the opportunity to use it yet, all my cuts have been managed by the Felder adjustable groovers this far.?
Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry?
Get
?Anyone have experience with the Felder slotting cutter? Looking to use it as a joinery blade for cutting tenons, bridle joints anywhere i might want a flat bottom cut. Is there an advantage to the slotting cutter over a rip with FTC?
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Lenox Trimaster? 12 feet, 10 inches; width 1 inch, toothset 3/4 v
This is from my order from BandSawBladesDirect, in 2012. Yeah, they last a long time if you take care of them.
I detension almost every time, except when I forget.
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I own and have used both the 4 and 6mm slot cutters you call out. ? They work fine provides you employ a backer board when cutting into end-grain for joinery - chip-out is very severe without one. ?My use with them has been drawer bottom slots, as well as cutting finger joints for small boxes. ?They do not produce the same quality cuts as the adjustable groovers with side-nickers such as the one shown in the last photo below. ?I also have a couple of Leitz saw blades I had custom ground for flat-bottom groove cutting at even narrower widths. ?What else would you like to know?
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
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Hi Michael, tooth width is 5 mm so suppose the main use would be for drawer bottoms ?
Wider blade with an exact 4mm vs 3.4mm. Seems like a super niche product to me. Went with a flat top tip blade but haven¡¯t had the opportunity to use it yet, all my cuts have been managed by the Felder adjustable groovers this far.?
Michael Tagge
Built Custom Carpentry?
Get
?Anyone have experience with the Felder slotting cutter? Looking to use it as a joinery blade for cutting tenons, bridle joints anywhere i might want a flat bottom cut. Is there an advantage to the slotting cutter over a rip with FTC?
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David Luckensmeyer
Jason Holtz
imran
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