Re: Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
When I received my K915 X-Motion the shipping brackets?had broken loose and the?boom was set free to float around and got all scraped up as well as the pieces it?rubbed against. Felder sent me a tube of touch up paint. I've purchased at least 20 new Grizzly machines and never a shipping crate problem.
So, stuff happens...
Bill B¨¦langer
TJ,? I completely agree.? My Felder KF700SP was well crated but without the shock and tilt sensors.? Prior to the Felder I had a Sawstop ICS and it
was incredibly well packaged with tilt and shock sensors.? Contrast that with Grizz.? Tons of shipping damage with them.? Sounds like they are always good about replacements but it sucks as a customer to eagerly await your machine, possibly take the day off
to be there for delivery and they have it damaged.? I am convinced that some manufacturers decide that cheaper packing and eating some damage is cheaper than packing right.? Maybe MBAs there???
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Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
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When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard.
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Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle.
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RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force.
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Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world.
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i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
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I did.? I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you
do you can¡¯t collect
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Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
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Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building.? For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking.? My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle.? I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here.? I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
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Re: Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
TJ,? I completely agree.? My Felder KF700SP was well crated but without the shock and tilt sensors.? Prior to the Felder I had a Sawstop ICS and it
was incredibly well packaged with tilt and shock sensors.? Contrast that with Grizz.? Tons of shipping damage with them.? Sounds like they are always good about replacements but it sucks as a customer to eagerly await your machine, possibly take the day off
to be there for delivery and they have it damaged.? I am convinced that some manufacturers decide that cheaper packing and eating some damage is cheaper than packing right.? Maybe MBAs there???
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On Behalf Of TJ Cornish
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
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Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
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When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard.
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Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle.
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RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force.
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Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world.
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i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
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I did. ?I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you
do you can¡¯t collect
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Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
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Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building. ?For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking. ?My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle. ?I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here. ?I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
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Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
I bought a pair of these back in early June, which means I didn't get the extra screws noted in the video.? That's no big deal though.? I used a 1/8" brad point bit followed by a 1/8" router bit (on a router table) to extend my insert for the riving knife.? I might have to extend it a little further though, as there's barely any room to install the riving knife when dealing with a 12" blade.? I haven't had the need to run with my scoring blade lately, so that section is still covered.
I've installed one insert so far, and the only problem I had was that I had to remove a tiny section on the underside near the front in order to get it to fit properly.? It wouldn't seat correctly otherwise as it was pushing against the little bits they have there on the K3.? That was easily done with a beater chisel.? I haven't looked at the other insert to see if it has the same problem.
Separately, I found that I can only remove or install the insert with the sliding table pushed all the way to the rear.? This of course is the opposite of where you put the table when changing the blade.? So if I'm switching out the blade for a dado or for a home-made 45 degree insert then I have to move the table back and forth to go between dealing with the blade and the insert.? That's not the fault of the insert; it's due to the tightness of the space there coupled with the extra "meat" of the insert.? But it's a small inconvenience and easily overlooked thanks to the size and strength of the insert.? I've already broken the little sliver to the left of the blade off an OEM insert; I'll stick with Ramon's inserts from now on.
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Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
Thanks a ton @HdV...the inserts make my saw a pleasure to use!
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Re: Massaranduba headboard and footboard.
What a nice design. Designing things is hard to get right.
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On Jul 29, 2020, at 11:49 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
Nice Marty, I am working on a King bed and night stands right now also.
Mark
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Understandable. if its single phase then its 941....
When it comes to machine upgrade I always go a little more than what I need, because it will open up opportunities/doors to other projects.?
When I was planning the upgrade for my jp combo, I?was going to purchase a SCM FS7, but I had to wait for 6 months so bought the 951 instead.?
I started as a hobbyist as well but now my wood work provides 50% of the household income - I still have a daytime job. and I have 2 casual workers on the weekends to help out.?
I recently put down a deposit for a SCM shaper Ti145EP (similar to a Profil 45 but cost slightly more) with side tenon table. it will get here in late November.?
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Re: Hammer B3 electrical problem
#hammer
Steve - quite right I hadn't tested the start capacitor disconnected, I was so excited I popped out at 1am to try it, alas it reads the same, though as you say ESR and leakage could still be apparent
Cliff - also true, sounds like it's worthy path, thanks.
Thank you all so far - I'll get new caps and report back!
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Re: Massaranduba headboard and footboard.
Nice Marty, I am working on a King bed and night stands right now also.
Mark
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Paul, As stated I have the AD 941 and am very happy, I had some snip issues but figured out that it was not the machine it was me. I will get separates but for now I just changed my workflow a bit.
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
Gents,
I really do appreciate all of your advice!? This kind of experience is priceless!? I have been doing woodworking for many years.? Worked in a production custom entry door shop for a while before before I dove into the career.? I am just an enthusiast.? Some day when I retire, this will be my gig.? I have a 20x20 shop at this point dedicated to woodworking.? This is way beyond what I NEED and really over what I should buy.? I really don't have the space for two large machines.? This is a one time tool for me.? One and done.? I am lucky to be able to be a little frivolous with the purchase, so I think I am going to take advantage of this sale.
I always wanted to stay with single phase, I know the long term advantage of 3 phase, just not there mentally yet, unless a bargain appeared.
Here is what I have now for large machines in this little space (still in remodel mode or I would share pics):
CWI 37" double drum sander 7.5hp single phase
Laguna TSS (2005) 5hp with scoring (will replace someday with something nicer)
Laguna LT16HD bandsaw - keeper
Laguna 3hp shaper - so far it is ok...? huge bargain
Onieda 3hp Dust gorrila cyclone - keeper (in a separate room next to the 20x20)
Nova Voyager drill press - keeper
Steel City 8" wedgebed jointer - dear lord this has to go...? some bargains are just headaches
Delta 785x 15" jointer with a shelix head - is is good, but has issues with age
So:
- I would love to have two large separate machines - just cannot swing the space
- Would love to have a Dual 51 - just cannot justify the price for what I do
- The choice for the AD941 comes down to the best I can do in a single phase format.
- I want to replace my current Jointer & planer with something much nicer
- I would like to replace the laguna TSS and Shaper someday with something like a KF700P and keep on the Felder plan
Anyway...? My rant for today
Love to hear any and all feedback for you all!
PK
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
I have a 30+ year old Clark stand up, ride on electric lift. It's very compact and will lift 3500#. I paid $500 for it 5 years ago when we moved from a dock height building to a drive in building. It's 1500# battery immediately took a shit after the move. A rebuilt battery was in the neighborhood of $3K, which we couldn't justify for the occasional use that it sees. Instead, we got 4 Interstate deep cycle 6V batteries and made a tray to mount them on the overhead protection cage. The original battery is critical for ballast so we couldn't remove that and put these relatively lightweight batteries in its place. It will lift my heaviest machines, and all the crated furniture I send out. It makes putting lumber in the rack 16' up pretty easy too. I charge it like every other month maybe, and it always does what I ask of it. It leaks some hydraulic fluid on the floor, but for the $1300 I've got into it, it's long since paid for itself. Maybe I'll get to that leak someday.
Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Mark ¨C ¡¯Well, I didn¡¯t use a micrometer of course (a very wise sage once told me that you use a micrometer for metal working, and a yardstick for woodworking), but a quick look
with a tape measure indicated that the horizontal projection of the PF bracket from the machine is just under 12 ?¡± (more like 12 3/16¡±).??
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Hope that helps.?
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B/T/W ¨C The sage I mentioned above was not Brian, though Brian¡¯s advice and wisdom have always been spot-on!?
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Skip
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On Behalf Of Mark Kessler
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 10:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] PF Bracket on AD 941
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Skip, good to get confirmation-was concerned my memory was starting to fail me... that sucker looks like it sticks out quite a bit - don¡¯t bother measuring but whats your guess, 12¡±- 18¡±?
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Thanks, Skip.? I'll give Jesse a call.
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:28 PM Averman, Ed (FAA) via <Ed.Averman=[email protected]> wrote:
Dave ¨C
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It came pre-drilled because I ordered it that way.? The Felder Catalog/Book shows a ¡°Power feeder mount¡± for an
AD/A 951, Format-4/dual 51 (Part No. 430-112) under Power feeders accessories (page 465 in my book).? From the picture, it is a different mounting bracket than mine, and I do not know what my part number is.? Mine appears to be shaped similar to the
Hammer tilt away device (Part No 501-127) (same page in the book), but that clearly is not it.?
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I ordered mine through Jesse at Felder Delaware, and he knew what to spec for the machine.? It is definitely heavy/sturdy!?
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Skip
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From:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of David Davies
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 9:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] PF Bracket on AD 941
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Did you have to drill the mounting holes in your AD941 or did it come with them predrilled?? Thanks for the pictures.
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On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 8:41 PM Averman, Ed (FAA) via
<Ed.Averman=[email protected]> wrote:
Well ¨C I just received what I sent, and all pics are oriented
correctly.? Kind of makes my explanation below nonsensical since you won¡¯t see the mis-orientation that was on my screen before I sent the email.?
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Oh well!?
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Skip
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Dave et. al.? --?
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Here¡¯s pics of my
Felder Power Feeder bracket and how it mounts on my AD 941.? You can see that you have to remove both Left and Right access panels.? Only the Right panel is removed for bolt access in the photos.?
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Apologies for the mis-orientation of the pics ¨C sometimes they show up that way, and sometimes they appear correctly.?
?I sent them from my i phone.? ?Even when pics are rotated wrongly on my screen, they appear right-side up (sometimes) on a recipient¡¯s screen.? ?So, I can¡¯t say what you might see.?? What¡¯s even weirder, yesterday I tried twice to send a picture to
this computer and to another.? The same picture rotated 90 degrees on this one and appeared correctly on the other.? A companion picture showed up correctly oriented on this one.? Maybe it is operator error, but the results seem to be random even when I do
the process exactly the same way.?
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Anyway, ¡®hope this helps!?? B/T/W ¨C The mounting system for those access panels is really squirrely IMHO!?
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Skip
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
PK, you will be very happy with the ad941 - I am, I originally was going with the 741 but it was only like 1k at the time to make the jump and wanted a 4 post planer.?
I to have a small space and do not have room for separates - someday that will change and I will switch it up.?
Once setup properly it will yield very good results
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On Jul 29, 2020, at 9:42 PM, PK <paul.kellymjc@...> wrote:
?Gents, I really do appreciate all of your advice!? This kind of experience is priceless!? I have been doing woodworking for many years.? Worked in a production custom entry door shop for a while before before I dove into the career.? I am just an enthusiast.? Some day when I retire, this will be my gig.? I have a 20x20 shop at this point dedicated to woodworking.? This is way beyond what I NEED and really over what I should buy.? I really don't have the space for two large machines.? This is a one time tool for me.? One and done.? I am lucky to be able to be a little frivolous with the purchase, so I think I am going to take advantage of this sale. I always wanted to stay with single phase, I know the long term advantage of 3 phase, just not there mentally yet, unless a bargain appeared. Here is what I have now for large machines in this little space (still in remodel mode or I would share pics): CWI 37" double drum sander 7.5hp single phase Laguna TSS (2005) 5hp with scoring (will replace someday with something nicer) Laguna LT16HD bandsaw - keeper Laguna 3hp shaper - so far it is ok...? huge bargain Onieda 3hp Dust gorrila cyclone - keeper (in a separate room next to the 20x20) Nova Voyager drill press - keeper Steel City 8" wedgebed jointer - dear lord this has to go...? some bargains are just headaches Delta 785x 15" jointer with a shelix head - is is good, but has issues with age So:
- I would love to have two large separate machines - just cannot swing the space
- Would love to have a Dual 51 - just cannot justify the price for what I do
- The choice for the AD941 comes down to the best I can do in a single phase format.
- I want to replace my current Jointer & planer with something much nicer
- I would like to replace the laguna TSS and Shaper someday with something like a KF700P and keep on the Felder plan
Anyway...? My rant for today Love to hear any and all feedback for you all! PK
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Gents, I really do appreciate all of your advice!? This kind of experience is priceless!? I have been doing woodworking for many years.? Worked in a production custom entry door shop for a while before before I dove into the career.? I am just an enthusiast.? Some day when I retire, this will be my gig.? I have a 20x20 shop at this point dedicated to woodworking.? This is way beyond what I NEED and really over what I should buy.? I really don't have the space for two large machines.? This is a one time tool for me.? One and done.? I am lucky to be able to be a little frivolous with the purchase, so I think I am going to take advantage of this sale. I always wanted to stay with single phase, I know the long term advantage of 3 phase, just not there mentally yet, unless a bargain appeared. Here is what I have now for large machines in this little space (still in remodel mode or I would share pics): CWI 37" double drum sander 7.5hp single phase Laguna TSS (2005) 5hp with scoring (will replace someday with something nicer) Laguna LT16HD bandsaw - keeper Laguna 3hp shaper - so far it is ok...? huge bargain Onieda 3hp Dust gorrila cyclone - keeper (in a separate room next to the 20x20) Nova Voyager drill press - keeper Steel City 8" wedgebed jointer - dear lord this has to go...? some bargains are just headaches Delta 785x 15" jointer with a shelix head - is is good, but has issues with age So:
- I would love to have two large separate machines - just cannot swing the space
- Would love to have a Dual 51 - just cannot justify the price for what I do
- The choice for the AD941 comes down to the best I can do in a single phase format.
- I want to replace my current Jointer & planer with something much nicer
- I would like to replace the laguna TSS and Shaper someday with something like a KF700P and keep on the Felder plan
Anyway...? My rant for today Love to hear any and all feedback for you all! PK
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
Wow Bill, that sounds pretty ideal! ?Best of both worlds. ?Caribou- while I have never been there, I imagine is quite lovely this time of year. ?
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On 07/29/2020, at 8:57 PM, Bill B¨¦langer < Bllblngr@...> wrote:
We live in Caribou Maine ( The other Maine ) summers, travel in the Motorhome to Tucson AZ for the winter where I have smaller but newer shop, back in spring.?
Bill Belanger? On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:41 PM Anthony Quesada < tonymiga2@...> wrote: David Kumm- have I ever been there!!? If I get an electric jack I will remember that tip until I say ¡°I bet David¡¯s gravel wasn¡¯t compacted quite as hard as mine.? I can definitely move this load just over there¡±? followed two minutes later when the jack gets stuck¡? ¡°Nope I guess he was right¡± ?
Brian Lamb- wow that would be scary with a sinking fork and some expensive load teeter- tottering.? As I was sinking into the asphalt I was wondering what people did in the south and southwest.? Thanks for informing me.? ?
Bill- ? My dad has a lathe in the existing barn so I think I am all set, but thank you for thinking of me.? I¡¯m trying to remember from all the reading I did on the forum, but are you a full timer in Maine? ? ?
David Best-? oh no, I hate to hear that talk of Actuarial Tables, my dad does that all the time.? Tables aside, your underground Bruce Wayne machining center sounds so fun.? I would be obsessed with watching that project come to life.? LOL. ? ?
The electric walk behind stacker is very very appealing and of course you make it more useful with the remote cord!? I imagine you will sell it before I get this shop completed, but if it is still available in 2021 I could certainly be interested.? Thank you for the suggestion and the well wishes on the project.? Stay safe and prove those actuarial tables wrong LOL ?
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We live in Caribou Maine ( The other Maine ) summers, travel in the Motorhome to Tucson AZ for the winter where I have smaller but newer shop, back in spring.?
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:41 PM Anthony Quesada < tonymiga2@...> wrote: David Kumm- have I ever been there!!? If I get an electric jack I will remember that tip until I say ¡°I bet David¡¯s gravel wasn¡¯t compacted quite as hard as mine.? I can definitely move this load just over there¡±? followed two minutes later when the jack gets stuck¡? ¡°Nope I guess he was right¡±
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Brian Lamb- wow that would be scary with a sinking fork and some expensive load teeter- tottering.? As I was sinking into the asphalt I was wondering what people did in the south and southwest.? Thanks for informing me.?
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Bill- ? My dad has a lathe in the existing barn so I think I am all set, but thank you for thinking of me.? I¡¯m trying to remember from all the reading I did on the forum, but are you a full timer in Maine? ?
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David Best-? oh no, I hate to hear that talk of Actuarial Tables, my dad does that all the time.? Tables aside, your underground Bruce Wayne machining center sounds so fun.? I would be obsessed with watching that project come to life.? LOL. ?
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The electric walk behind stacker is very very appealing and of course you make it more useful with the remote cord!? I imagine you will sell it before I get this shop completed, but if it is still available in 2021 I could certainly be interested.? Thank you for the suggestion and the well wishes on the project.? Stay safe and prove those actuarial tables wrong LOL
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
and agree on paying for the commissioning i bought 5 machines and not being to a level of D.B. it was a no choice option for me.? they have been here twice now and going to make a third trip for a few issues. Un like your experience mark< mine has been pretty damn good. But it sounds like your finally getting yours worked out.
Glen
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
????????? 650-678-3137 LIC # 707507
Also don¡¯t forget to add 1k for?commissioning unless you like rolling the dice or at least comfortable with making your own adjustments.?
Also jumping to the 951 is like $3500 min and 3p only...? On Jul 29, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Bill B¨¦langer <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
? When I was considering the 941-951 my salesman told me I didn¡¯t need the 951. So for some people it might be overkill. Just sayin...
Bill Belanger?
If you need an AD941 then you might as well get the 951. 951 is alot more machine than 941.
I was in similar situation 2 years ago and I went with 951, silent cutter etc. never looked back.?
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Re: Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
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When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard.
?
Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle.
?
RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force.
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Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world.
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i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
On Jul 29, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Joe Jensen <joe.jensen@...> wrote:
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I did. ?I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you do you can¡¯t
collect
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Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 10:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
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Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
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Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building. ?For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking. ?My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle. ?I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here. ?I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
I originally was going to get the 931 I think it was, and comparing the 931 to the 941, the build was better, table easier to lift and it was 1k more at that time. I am not sure if the 951 was out yet but had to draw the line somewhere. I was told by David B and others back then to get separates if possible and I did not. I should have listened and did not.. I seriously regret not doing so now. I can assure you that there is a stand alone planer very near in my future. I stepped up in machines from where I started looking at the entry level Felders. I believe it was the KF700 and ended up with a Kappa 400 and the profil 45. It was A big step up , but I knew enough not to go cheap and regret it. That being said I am very happy with the machines including the 941, And yes I have some issues but I am going to put a lot of that on the operator. I haven't done much programming and presetting up cutterheads and blades yet but I think I did it a few times and just can't remember what I did. Bottom line is buy what you really want, You only cut that check once. Or maybe end up disappointed in your choices. I am in that case for not getting separates as I was advised to do. Glen
One more thing, Don't gloss over the options while some are not cheap some are. There were a lot of options that I really thought I did not need but turned out that are great to have. Also Felder does do a preset machine build with a lot preset options lower than the cost of said machine and added options. The machine is not actually built so you can add more stuff if you want. That was the path I took and added to and was a better price had I started from scratch.
Alpine Moulding and Millwork Inc.
Mail: ?? P.O. Box 257 ?????????? Avery, CA. 95224 Shop: 441 Pennsylvania Gulch Road ????????? Murphys, CA. 95247
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 4:35 PM Bill B¨¦langer < Bllblngr@...> wrote: When I was considering the 941-951 my salesman told me I didn¡¯t need the 951. So for some people it might be overkill. Just sayin...
Bill Belanger?
If you need an AD941 then you might as well get the 951. 951 is alot more machine than 941.
I was in similar situation 2 years ago and I went with 951, silent cutter etc. never looked back.?
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Re: The Annex workshop addition
David Kumm- have I ever been there!! ?If I get an electric jack I will remember that tip until I say ¡°I bet David¡¯s gravel wasn¡¯t compacted quite as hard as mine. ?I can definitely move this load just over there¡±? followed two minutes later when the jack gets stuck¡? ¡°Nope I guess he was right¡±
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Brian Lamb- wow that would be scary with a sinking fork and some expensive load teeter- tottering.? As I was sinking into the asphalt I was wondering what people did in the south and southwest.? Thanks for informing me.?
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Bill- ? My dad has a lathe in the existing barn so I think I am all set, but thank you for thinking of me.? I¡¯m trying to remember from all the reading I did on the forum, but are you a full timer in Maine? ?
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David Best-? oh no, I hate to hear that talk of Actuarial Tables, my dad does that all the time.? Tables aside, your underground Bruce Wayne machining center sounds so fun.? I would be obsessed with watching that project come to life.? LOL. ?
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The electric walk behind stacker is very very appealing and of course you make it more useful with the remote cord!? I imagine you will sell it before I get this shop completed, but if it is still available in 2021 I could certainly be interested.? Thank you for the suggestion and the well wishes on the project.? Stay safe and prove those actuarial tables wrong LOL
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Re: Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
Bond Performance, bond? I accidentally left the world bond
out?? you can also call it a surety bond.
On 7/29/20 1:29 PM, Joe Jensen wrote:
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I seems you can¡¯t really
insure for damage or if you do you can¡¯t collect
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