Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
I didn't say that it doesn't work I said it not needed with scoring. I had a nice one like you are showing until it got blown to rat shit with a tapered cutoff. Now I use this when necessary. But as always whatever works for you, my experience dictates otherwise. The other inserts are 10 years old and only used for support when doing dados. No blowouts on the thin material but dados really don't create that issue.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> Date: 2020-07-30 11:58 a.m. (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [FOG] Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
John, Don¡¯t understand your comment that a zci won¡¯t work with scoring, maybe I am misunderstanding your comment but I have no issues with my 20min Prototype build of one, I also have no howling like you describe. I could see the potential for the jamming like you describe but haven¡¯t had that yet and kickback from small cutoffs is gone
 On Jul 30, 2020, at 11:22 AM, jmkserv@... wrote:
? Felder must have changed their inserts from the fine ply phenolic. I've got 3 and never had an issue with them. Scoring pretty well eliminates their use on the slider because of the table slider height difference and I don't work from the fence side so of?no use to me. No matter how tight to the blade is too the?insert there is always cutoffs that will jamb and create issues. I've got 2 nicks in my slider because of extreme blade deflection cause?by ZCI. The howling?from the balde they can create is another issue. Sorry for the negative comments about ZCI but reality is such. Hey Steve
I'm glad you figured out how to cut and extend the saw kerf...your way is a good solution.? The reason I didn't cut saw kerfs to begin with is because...after talking with a Felder/Hammer rep, he suggested NOT to cut the kerfs.? He stated that they can be in slightly different locations latterly (or left & right).? Factory ZCI's are never sold with a saw blade kerf. ? So, that's when I decided to make the "how to" video that shows how I safely created the kerf on mine and started supplying the two wood screws.?
It's interesting that your slider part has to be rearward to install the insert.? Mine must be forward...so this tells me that there are some slight differences with the machines.? As far as the fitment of the insert, I only had one other report (besides yours) related to that slight adjustment that needed to be made for proper fitment.? I've since adjusted my jigs to make the accommodations.? Strange thing is...the inserts fit my K-3 with or without that modification. ?
?And yes, the tiny 4mm sliver that is created to the left of the factory ZCI and their regular insert is weak.? Mine broke after only two days!? I knew there had to be a better way.? I'm super pleased with my version.? Especially when cutting small parts. ?
Anyway, thanks a ton for your support!? Ramon
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Re: Hammer B3 electrical problem
#hammer
in my case it was a blown up cap. however, it just disabled the brake and everything worked. there are many ways for brake board to cause problems. IIRC, another case reported here was where brake board was stuck on and it provided braking current upon power up resulting in tripping if breaker.
imran?
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On Jul 30, 2020, at 10:25 AM, kshirey@... wrote: ?I had a similar problem last week with my Hammer CF531P. ?After using the shaper with a huge rebate cutter, the break cried and ceased functioning. ?Next startup attempt tripped the breaker.
I went all through the schematic, translated it into English so I could read it, and traced down a burned up MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) on the brake board. ?I desoldered the (exploded and shorted out) varistor, and replaced both with higher-amperage new parts. ?Everything works fine now.
So yes - a short on the brake board can absolutely trip your breaker. ?And no, unless you're comfortable with soldering irons and PC board rework, you probably should just order a new board from Felder ?** if you find that it is crispy somewhere on the brake board **
If you could post or send a close up photo of your brake board (especially near and under the covered aluminum heat sink), it might help.
Let me know if you need schematics, potential troubleshooting techniques, etc. I can try to help.
Ken
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Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
John, Don¡¯t understand your comment that a zci won¡¯t work with scoring, maybe I am misunderstanding your comment but I have no issues with my 20min Prototype build of one, I also have no howling like you describe. I could see the potential for the jamming like you describe but haven¡¯t had that yet and kickback from small cutoffs is gone
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On Jul 30, 2020, at 11:22 AM, jmkserv@... wrote:
? Felder must have changed their inserts from the fine ply phenolic. I've got 3 and never had an issue with them. Scoring pretty well eliminates their use on the slider because of the table slider height difference and I don't work from the fence side so of?no use to me. No matter how tight to the blade is too the?insert there is always cutoffs that will jamb and create issues. I've got 2 nicks in my slider because of extreme blade deflection cause?by ZCI. The howling?from the balde they can create is another issue. Sorry for the negative comments about ZCI but reality is such. Hey Steve
I'm glad you figured out how to cut and extend the saw kerf...your way is a good solution.? The reason I didn't cut saw kerfs to begin with is because...after talking with a Felder/Hammer rep, he suggested NOT to cut the kerfs.? He stated that they can be in slightly different locations latterly (or left & right).? Factory ZCI's are never sold with a saw blade kerf. ? So, that's when I decided to make the "how to" video that shows how I safely created the kerf on mine and started supplying the two wood screws.?
It's interesting that your slider part has to be rearward to install the insert.? Mine must be forward...so this tells me that there are some slight differences with the machines.? As far as the fitment of the insert, I only had one other report (besides yours) related to that slight adjustment that needed to be made for proper fitment.? I've since adjusted my jigs to make the accommodations.? Strange thing is...the inserts fit my K-3 with or without that modification. ?
?And yes, the tiny 4mm sliver that is created to the left of the factory ZCI and their regular insert is weak.? Mine broke after only two days!? I knew there had to be a better way.? I'm super pleased with my version.? Especially when cutting small parts. ?
Anyway, thanks a ton for your support!? Ramon
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Re: Hammer B3 electrical problem
#hammer
I had a similar problem last week with my Hammer CF531P. ?After using the shaper with a huge rebate cutter, the break cried and ceased functioning. ?Next startup attempt tripped the breaker.
I went all through the schematic, translated it into English so I could read it, and traced down a burned up MOV (Metal Oxide Varistor) on the brake board. ?I desoldered the (exploded and shorted out) varistor, and replaced both with higher-amperage new parts. ?Everything works fine now.
So yes - a short on the brake board can absolutely trip your breaker. ?And no, unless you're comfortable with soldering irons and PC board rework, you probably should just order a new board from Felder ?** if you find that it is crispy somewhere on the brake board **
If you could post or send a close up photo of your brake board (especially near and under the covered aluminum heat sink), it might help.
Let me know if you need schematics, potential troubleshooting techniques, etc. I can try to help.
Ken
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Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
Felder must have changed their inserts from the fine ply phenolic. I've got 3 and never had an issue with them. Scoring pretty well eliminates their use on the slider because of the table slider height difference and I don't work from the fence side so of?no use to me. No matter how tight to the blade is too the?insert there is always cutoffs that will jamb and create issues. I've got 2 nicks in my slider because of extreme blade deflection cause?by ZCI. The howling?from the balde they can create is another issue. Sorry for the negative comments about ZCI but reality is such.
Hey Steve
I'm glad you figured out how to cut and extend the saw kerf...your way is a good solution.? The reason I didn't cut saw kerfs to begin with is because...after talking with a Felder/Hammer rep, he suggested NOT to cut the kerfs.? He stated that they can be in slightly different locations latterly (or left & right).? Factory ZCI's are never sold with a saw blade kerf. ? So, that's when I decided to make the "how to" video that shows how I safely created the kerf on mine and started supplying the two wood screws.?
It's interesting that your slider part has to be rearward to install the insert.? Mine must be forward...so this tells me that there are some slight differences with the machines.? As far as the fitment of the insert, I only had one other report (besides yours) related to that slight adjustment that needed to be made for proper fitment.? I've since adjusted my jigs to make the accommodations.? Strange thing is...the inserts fit my K-3 with or without that modification. ?
?And yes, the tiny 4mm sliver that is created to the left of the factory ZCI and their regular insert is weak.? Mine broke after only two days!? I knew there had to be a better way.? I'm super pleased with my version.? Especially when cutting small parts. ?
Anyway, thanks a ton for your support!? Ramon
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Re: auction closing in couple of hrs - Cotati-CA
I dont?pay much attention to Machinerymax, because they are almost always in California. I am in Pennsylvania, so theres?a bit of distance there. However, i lust after a Martin T54. That might be a good pickup if it doesnt creep up too much more than $6,000. Unlike the other Martin machines, that one doesnt look too bad. I agree with above assessment. Is that shaper, in its current condition, worth over $10,000? I get it, it has some accessories, but the control panel is taped together, and generally, it looks like it hasnt had a kind life. The planer looks like it fell down a few flights of stairs. Says a lot about the make! Ive never touched a Martin machine, but they do tend to sell for triple or more their SCM counterparts in these situations. I feel like a SCMI S63 in much better condition than that Martin would sell for $1500, and this Martin is easily going to be over $5,000.?
too bad im not?closer, id really like to make a run at the slot cutters.?
Patrick
21 year old Martin T-26 is still worth over $10K, really?
James
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Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
Hey Steve
I'm glad you figured out how to cut and extend the saw kerf...your way is a good solution. ?The reason I didn't cut saw kerfs to begin with is because...after talking with a Felder/Hammer rep, he suggested NOT to cut the kerfs. ?He stated that they can be in slightly different locations latterly (or left & right). ?Factory ZCI's are never sold with a saw blade kerf. ? So, that's when I decided to make the "how to" video that shows how I safely created the kerf on mine and started supplying the two wood screws.?
It's interesting that your slider part has to be rearward to install the insert. ?Mine must be forward...so this tells me that there are some slight differences with the machines. ?As far as the fitment of the insert, I only had one other report (besides yours) related to that slight adjustment that needed to be made for proper fitment. ?I've since adjusted my jigs to make the accommodations. ?Strange thing is...the inserts fit my K-3 with or without that modification. ?
?And yes, the tiny 4mm sliver that is created to the left of the factory ZCI and their regular insert is weak. ?Mine broke after only two days! ?I knew there had to be a better way. ?I'm super pleased with my version. ?Especially when cutting small parts. ?
Anyway, thanks a ton for your support! ?Ramon
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Re: auction closing in couple of hrs - Cotati-CA
After the buyer's premium of 15% Martin shaper is $12,000.? That doesn't seem like a good deal for a 1999 shaper. Dave
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Re: auction closing in couple of hrs - Cotati-CA
21 year old Martin T-26 is still worth over $10K, really?
James
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Re: auction closing in couple of hrs - Cotati-CA
I¡¯ve been watching.? Looks like they¡¯ve seen some heavy use
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Re: Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
I think so Imran.? The Sawstop packing was expensive relative to most of what I¡¯ve purchased.
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i wonder when you are as big as grizzly the shipping co eats some of it to keep their business.
On Jul 30, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:
?I don¡¯t think it is ever cheaper to deal with shipping damage than it is to spend a few extra dollars to package properly. When you have to deal with a claim against the shipper, spend time and resources processing a new shipment, and
then to have the loss of customer satisfaction, it¡¯s never worth it to cheap out on the packaging.
?
?
TJ,? I completely agree.? My Felder KF700SP was well crated but without the shock and tilt sensors.? Prior to the Felder I had a Sawstop ICS and it
was incredibly well packaged with tilt and shock sensors.? Contrast that with Grizz.? Tons of shipping damage with them.? Sounds like they are always good about replacements but it sucks as a customer to eagerly await your machine, possibly take the day off
to be there for delivery and they have it damaged.? I am convinced that some manufacturers decide that cheaper packing and eating some damage is cheaper than packing right.? Maybe MBAs there???
?
?
Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
?
When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard.
?
Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle.
?
RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force.
?
Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world.
?
i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
?
I did. ?I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you
do you can¡¯t collect
?
?
Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
?
?
?
Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building. ?For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking. ?My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle. ?I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here. ?I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
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i wonder when you are as big as grizzly the shipping co eats some of it to keep their business.
imran
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On Jul 30, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote: ? I don¡¯t think it is ever cheaper to deal with shipping damage than it is to spend a few extra dollars to package properly. When you have to deal with a claim against the shipper, spend time and resources processing a new shipment, and then to have the loss of customer satisfaction, it¡¯s never worth it to cheap out on the packaging.
TJ,? I completely agree.? My Felder KF700SP was well crated but without the shock and tilt sensors.? Prior to the Felder I had a Sawstop ICS and it
was incredibly well packaged with tilt and shock sensors.? Contrast that with Grizz.? Tons of shipping damage with them.? Sounds like they are always good about replacements but it sucks as a customer to eagerly await your machine, possibly take the day off
to be there for delivery and they have it damaged.? I am convinced that some manufacturers decide that cheaper packing and eating some damage is cheaper than packing right.? Maybe MBAs there??? ?
? Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
? When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard. ? Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle. ? RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force. ? Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world. ?
i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
?
I did. ?I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you
do you can¡¯t collect ?
? Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
?
?
?
Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building. ?For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking. ?My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle. ?I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here. ?I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
?
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there is martin shaper, jointer, planet, IR air drier, and other items i have read here that people are looking for.
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Re: Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
I don¡¯t think it is ever cheaper to deal with shipping damage than it is to spend a few extra dollars to package properly. When you have to deal with a claim against the shipper, spend time and resources processing a new shipment, and then to have the loss of customer satisfaction, it¡¯s never worth it to cheap out on the packaging.
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TJ,? I completely agree.? My Felder KF700SP was well crated but without the shock and tilt sensors.? Prior to the Felder I had a Sawstop ICS and it
was incredibly well packaged with tilt and shock sensors.? Contrast that with Grizz.? Tons of shipping damage with them.? Sounds like they are always good about replacements but it sucks as a customer to eagerly await your machine, possibly take the day off
to be there for delivery and they have it damaged.? I am convinced that some manufacturers decide that cheaper packing and eating some damage is cheaper than packing right.? Maybe MBAs there??? ?
? Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
? When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard. ? Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle. ? RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force. ? Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world. ?
i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
?
I did. ?I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you
do you can¡¯t collect ?
? Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
?
?
?
Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building. ?For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking. ?My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle. ?I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here. ?I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
?
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When I received my K915 X-Motion the shipping brackets?had broken loose and the?boom was set free to float around and got all scraped up as well as the pieces it?rubbed against. Felder sent me a tube of touch up paint. I've purchased at least 20 new Grizzly machines and never a shipping crate problem.
So, stuff happens...
Bill B¨¦langer
TJ,? I completely agree.? My Felder KF700SP was well crated but without the shock and tilt sensors.? Prior to the Felder I had a Sawstop ICS and it
was incredibly well packaged with tilt and shock sensors.? Contrast that with Grizz.? Tons of shipping damage with them.? Sounds like they are always good about replacements but it sucks as a customer to eagerly await your machine, possibly take the day off
to be there for delivery and they have it damaged.? I am convinced that some manufacturers decide that cheaper packing and eating some damage is cheaper than packing right.? Maybe MBAs there???
?
?
Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
?
When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard.
?
Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle.
?
RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force.
?
Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world.
?
i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
?
I did.? I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you
do you can¡¯t collect
?
?
Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
?
?
?
Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building.? For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking.? My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle.? I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here.? I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
?
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TJ,? I completely agree.? My Felder KF700SP was well crated but without the shock and tilt sensors.? Prior to the Felder I had a Sawstop ICS and it
was incredibly well packaged with tilt and shock sensors.? Contrast that with Grizz.? Tons of shipping damage with them.? Sounds like they are always good about replacements but it sucks as a customer to eagerly await your machine, possibly take the day off
to be there for delivery and they have it damaged.? I am convinced that some manufacturers decide that cheaper packing and eating some damage is cheaper than packing right.? Maybe MBAs there???
?
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On Behalf Of TJ Cornish
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 5:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Joe in New Orleans is selling everything in his shop
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Sharing my recent shipping story - I just took delivery of my CF531 and was given the spiel by my sales rep about inspecting for shipping damage, etc.
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When the crate arrived, it was in perfect external condition. When I started unloading it, I noticed that one of the cardboard accessory boxes that was chucked (my word for it) into crate had laid against the machine and had rubbed through
the paint. After getting the thing off the pallet and starting to look it over I noticed that the two bolts that hold the riving knife mount onto the lifting mechanism were loose, which caused the belt guard to rub against the motor pulley, again causing paint
damage to the belt guard.
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Whose fault is this? In my opinion, Felder¡¯s. I think my CF531 was inadequately packed ¨C the machine should have been wrapped, and all loose boxes should have been tied down. If I was a shipping company and somebody tried to hit me with
the above claim I would tell them to take a long walk off a short pier. If a machine is fragile, it should be shock mounted on the pallet ¨C not a difficult thing to do. They know what riding on a truck is like, and $20 worth of extra packing material and 10
more minutes would save everybody a lot of hassle.
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RE dropping the crate ¨C there are package force sensors (and tip sensors) that Felder could put on to objectively identify excessive force.
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Felder is taking care of me, so other than being annoyed about a cruddy packing job and some cosmetic damage that will be solved by paint, it¡¯s not the end of the world.
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i insured my saw, $25K for $25. in reality it only works for catostrophic damage because sometimes it is not obvious if crate was dropped with no external damage.
in order to cover oneself smallest amount of detail needs to be noted upon delivery. i failed to do this but not sure if i could have made a claim on the slider box being upside down because right side up was not written on the box.
one of the double 2x skids came off from the bottom so they turned the box over. not sure if the bearing cage broke due to this or not. in my case i did not get to the slider for months on the account of being out of the country.
in hindsight it would be good that besides indicating right side up that all other sides are flat so it is not possible to get under the box.
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I did. ?I have not yet shipped something valuable. Seems like I would want a direct truck for but I seems you can¡¯t really insure for damage or if you
do you can¡¯t collect
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Joe,
Did you get the list of what is included with the shaper?
I can photos if you like?
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Joe, hope you are ok.? Can you send me details on the Shaper and what¡¯s included?
All,
I am selling my shop and moving out of my building. ?For those of you who don't know I made European style doors and windows, tilt and turn windows and rebate doors with Anuba type hinges and multipoint locking. ?My machines did not get a lot of use and the
use they did get was gentle. ?I can supply photos and descriptions if anyone has questions. ?
Crating and shipping are extra. ?
I have bought many items listed on the FOG and benefited greatly from the knowledge shared here. ?I hope others can benefit from my shop sale by acquiring items at great prices!
I attached the list of sale items. ?
Joe in New Orleans
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Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
I bought a pair of these back in early June, which means I didn't get the extra screws noted in the video.? That's no big deal though.? I used a 1/8" brad point bit followed by a 1/8" router bit (on a router table) to extend my insert for the riving knife.? I might have to extend it a little further though, as there's barely any room to install the riving knife when dealing with a 12" blade.? I haven't had the need to run with my scoring blade lately, so that section is still covered.
I've installed one insert so far, and the only problem I had was that I had to remove a tiny section on the underside near the front in order to get it to fit properly.? It wouldn't seat correctly otherwise as it was pushing against the little bits they have there on the K3.? That was easily done with a beater chisel.? I haven't looked at the other insert to see if it has the same problem.
Separately, I found that I can only remove or install the insert with the sliding table pushed all the way to the rear.? This of course is the opposite of where you put the table when changing the blade.? So if I'm switching out the blade for a dado or for a home-made 45 degree insert then I have to move the table back and forth to go between dealing with the blade and the insert.? That's not the fault of the insert; it's due to the tightness of the space there coupled with the extra "meat" of the insert.? But it's a small inconvenience and easily overlooked thanks to the size and strength of the insert.? I've already broken the little sliver to the left of the blade off an OEM insert; I'll stick with Ramon's inserts from now on.
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Re: Zero Clearance Inserts for Hammer K-3
Thanks a ton @HdV...the inserts make my saw a pleasure to use!
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Re: Massaranduba headboard and footboard.
What a nice design. Designing things is hard to get right.
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On Jul 29, 2020, at 11:49 PM, Mark Foster < mfsta2lt@...> wrote:
Nice Marty, I am working on a King bed and night stands right now also.
Mark
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Re: AD941 vs. Baileigh JP-1898-NC
Understandable. if its single phase then its 941....
When it comes to machine upgrade I always go a little more than what I need, because it will open up opportunities/doors to other projects.?
When I was planning the upgrade for my jp combo, I?was going to purchase a SCM FS7, but I had to wait for 6 months so bought the 951 instead.?
I started as a hobbyist as well but now my wood work provides 50% of the household income - I still have a daytime job. and I have 2 casual workers on the weekends to help out.?
I recently put down a deposit for a SCM shaper Ti145EP (similar to a Profil 45 but cost slightly more) with side tenon table. it will get here in late November.?
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