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Re: Quick question om Planer

 

Thanks Mac,?
Oh by the way as I never responded to your email about my clamps..
I will wait until you get you new cylinders, I know well enough, shit happens.
Glen ?


Re: Quick question om Planer

 

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I have done 3mm on this 941 successfully several times, i am however going to make a vacuum box sled at some point to see if I can gel better results. When i get a widebelt that would be The preferred method?

Regards, Mark

On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:13 PM, Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:

?I chickened out on that Idea and did it on the saw, I don't exactly trust the digital read out yet, The planner seems pretty spot on but the saw is off, So as usual I cut them on the saw and had to do it again forgetting about it being off. I think its about time to get that fixed.?
I have done down to 1/4" on the planer, 1/8 just seemed to ballsy for me.

Thanks Bill?
Don't you some new stuff coming you way?
Glen


Re: Quick question om Planer

 

Thanks John?
That sounds like the way to do it. However I cant find the wide belt sander, Not sure where in this mess it is.
Oh wait, Its not even here yet.?
Glen?


Re: Quick question om Planer

 

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Glen
I would plane half that on my Buss but the tools your talking about there is way to much distance from rollers to pressure bars and chip breakers.?
Lunch box planers work good for that sort of thickness or like John said wide belt.
Mac,,,

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 47 years


On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:08 PM, jmkserv@... wrote:

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Glen I gave up trying that on a planer a lot of years ago, better to bandsaw strips oversize then run them through the wide belt. I do it this way for my solid wood edgebanding. That is unless you like hearing wood explode and turning it into tooth picks.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...>
Date: 2020-01-28 8:06 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [FOG] Quick question om Planer

I have an 941 and I want to plane some maple to .124" Is that safe or ok to do on this machine?
Thanks as always,
Glen?


Re: Quick question om Planer

 

I chickened out on that Idea and did it on the saw, I don't exactly trust the digital read out yet, The planner seems pretty spot on but the saw is off, So as usual I cut them on the saw and had to do it again forgetting about it being off. I think its about time to get that fixed.?
I have done down to 1/4" on the planer, 1/8 just seemed to ballsy for me.

Thanks Bill?
Don't you some new stuff coming you way?
Glen


Re: Quick question om Planer

 

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Glen I gave up trying that on a planer a lot of years ago, better to bandsaw strips oversize then run them through the wide belt. I do it this way for my solid wood edgebanding. That is unless you like hearing wood explode and turning it into tooth picks.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...>
Date: 2020-01-28 8:06 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [FOG] Quick question om Planer

I have an 941 and I want to plane some maple to .124" Is that safe or ok to do on this machine?
Thanks as always,
Glen?


Re: Quick question om Planer

 

Maybe I spoke too soon. That¡¯s awful thin. If you try it let us know how you made out ? Might just suck into the DC!
Bill Belanger ?

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 18:51 Bill B¨¦langer <bllblngr@...> wrote:
Put a carrier plank under it. Should be OK
But probably better on a drum sander.?

Bill Belanger?

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 18:06 Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:
I have an 941 and I want to plane some maple to .124" Is that safe or ok to do on this machine?
Thanks as always,
Glen?


Re: Quick question om Planer

 

Put a carrier plank under it. Should be OK
But probably better on a drum sander.?

Bill Belanger?

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 18:06 Glen Christensen <grchris1966@...> wrote:
I have an 941 and I want to plane some maple to .124" Is that safe or ok to do on this machine?
Thanks as always,
Glen?


Re: Profil45 display error

 

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I went through the same thing with my Profil, having to replace the digidrive positioning/control board and ending up with the same error display. ? ?I did find that that low voltage transformer inside the machine had multiple taps for the outputs and was able to bring it down by just moving a wire.

David Best

On Jan 28, 2020, at 1:17 PM, david slater via Groups.Io <davidslater@...> wrote:

Hi Imran,

thank you for all the replies to my issue, I am sorry i did not reply I was unwell and have only just got back to my workshop and to the issues i was having

The problem was apparently an over-voltage issue relating to the replacement display being a newer model and not liking any over voltage whatsoever. In the end up i had to install an additional higher tolerance transformer to power only the display to eliminate the issue.
I now have to re calibrate everything due to the new display unit being installed and I wonder if anyone with this machine can tell me how much spindle travel they have? i.e should the spindle drop below the table completely? At its lowest setting mine still sits around 50mm above the table.

Thanks, David.


Quick question om Planer

 

I have an 941 and I want to plane some maple to .124" Is that safe or ok to do on this machine?
Thanks as always,
Glen?


Re: Altendorf wins award for camera-based saw safety system

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

On 1/28/20 2:56 PM, Jason Holtz wrote:
I hope Altendorf will licence the tech to other manufacturers.

it's probably?? Infra red and that's it.? the mechanics to get the blade
to drop?? any one? can figure out: Motor ,Spring, Magnets, Solonoid,? ?
all kind? of ways to?? skin that? cat


Re: Airlines for new shop

 

Mark,

I agree 100% with your analysis. I needed some of my line to go underground to get closer to where my cars are. PEX is absolutely not allowed to go underground because there are some bugs that will puncture it. So I did not have many choices. The advantage of the RapidAir system is the nice reasonably priced package with components that solve the need for many expensive and space consuming T's and L's and ball valves when you use copper. Each outlet has a moisture drain ball valve and everything is really well made.

BTW, PEX-AL-PEX is used in Europe for years as the standard for water supply and underfloor heating.

Ariel


Re: Profil45 display error

 

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Hi David,

My 2016 Profile 45z x-motion has about 120mm of spindle travel.

At the lowest the spindle will go it sticks up above the table 46mm to the top of the spindle cap bolt.


Joe in New Orleans


On Jan 28, 2020, at 3:17 PM, david slater via Groups.Io <davidslater@...> wrote:

Hi Imran,

thank you for all the replies to my issue, I am sorry i did not reply I was unwell and have only just got back to my workshop and to the issues i was having

The problem was apparently an over-voltage issue relating to the replacement display being a newer model and not liking any over voltage whatsoever. In the end up i had to install an additional higher tolerance transformer to power only the display to eliminate the issue.
I now have to re calibrate everything due to the new display unit being installed and I wonder if anyone with this machine can tell me how much spindle travel they have? i.e should the spindle drop below the table completely? At its lowest setting mine still sits around 50mm above the table.

Thanks, David.


Re: Airlines for new shop

 

The RapidAir website says it's HDPE, which is also what PEX is.? There are variations of HDPE of course, and their website says theirs is different, but it might be BS.

PEX-AL-PEX is PEX with an aluminum mid layer.? PEX alone is slightly permeable to oxygen, and the AL layer prevents that.? The permeability is not enough to qualify as "leak" in a compressed air system, but it is enough to allow oxygen into water over the long haul and cause?rusting of iron components, so PEX-AL-PEX is used in such conditions.

So basically it looks like RapidAir is PEX-AL-PEX with their own branded fittings.? RapidAir is slightly more expensive than commodity PEX-AL-PEX.?



On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 12:39 PM ahazi <ariel.hazi@...> wrote:
Joe,

I had to make the same decision about 2 years ago. I ended up going with Rapid Air 3/4". I have a total of 9 drops. I bought 3 Rapid Air kits from Northern Tool as it was the cheapest way to get all the pipe and accessories. It is not hard at all to straighten the pipe by hand and to use electrician EMT bending tool to make nice tight radius when you need it (rarely).


Also bought the?RapidAir Quick Coupler which are very convinient to use


For attaching to the walls I did not use the plastic clips from the kit as they seemed flimsy, instead I used EMT 1-Hole Straps


Copper is a good choice but with the length of pipes that I have and some unusual bend angles it did not make sense. These tubes are really a good modern choice for air in the shop. The plastic-aluminum-plastic structure of the pipe is far superior to PEX and cheaper and in my opinion better than copper. Also the adaptors that come in the kit are well engineered with O-rings etc.

I am very happy with the end result and I always use type L copper (blue) for water...

Ariel

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 11:45 AM, Joe Jensen wrote:
Rapid Air.?


Re: Profil45 display error

 

Hi Imran,

thank you for all the replies to my issue, I am sorry i did not reply I was unwell and have only just got back to my workshop and to the issues i was having

The problem was apparently an over-voltage issue relating to the replacement display being a newer model and not liking any over voltage whatsoever. In the end up i had to install an additional higher tolerance transformer to power only the display to eliminate the issue.
I now have to re calibrate everything due to the new display unit being installed and I wonder if anyone with this machine can tell me how much spindle travel they have? i.e should the spindle drop below the table completely? At its lowest setting mine still sits around 50mm above the table.

Thanks, David.


Re: Airlines for new shop

 

Joe,

I had to make the same decision about 2 years ago. I ended up going with Rapid Air 3/4". I have a total of 9 drops. I bought 3 Rapid Air kits from Northern Tool as it was the cheapest way to get all the pipe and accessories. It is not hard at all to straighten the pipe by hand and to use electrician EMT bending tool to make nice tight radius when you need it (rarely).


Also bought the?RapidAir Quick Coupler which are very convinient to use


For attaching to the walls I did not use the plastic clips from the kit as they seemed flimsy, instead I used EMT 1-Hole Straps


Copper is a good choice but with the length of pipes that I have and some unusual bend angles it did not make sense. These tubes are really a good modern choice for air in the shop. The plastic-aluminum-plastic structure of the pipe is far superior to PEX and cheaper and in my opinion better than copper. Also the adaptors that come in the kit are well engineered with O-rings etc.

I am very happy with the end result and I always use type L copper (blue) for water...

Ariel


On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 11:45 AM, Joe Jensen wrote:
Rapid Air.?


Re: Altendorf wins award for camera-based saw safety system

 

Very true on the highest end of machines..their kappa 550 with the tilting dual bevel is around $70,000 depending in what options you want..?

On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 12:23:06 PM PST, jmkserv@... <jmkserv@...> wrote:


I think from the info available the system that Felder devised is probably a more go to. The more technology involved in the detection system the more chance to f__k up. Only time will tell if these even make to the market. So far it's all just talk and available in the highest end machines.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...>
Date: 2020-01-28 2:56 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], murkyd@...
Subject: Re: [FOG] Altendorf wins award for camera-based saw safety system

I guess I need to replace three sliders now lol. I wonder how much my liability insurance would go down? I hope Altendorf will licence the tech to other manufacturers.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture

3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Altendorf wins award for camera-based saw safety system

 

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I think from the info available the system that Felder devised is probably a more go to. The more technology involved in the detection system the more chance to f__k up. Only time will tell if these even make to the market. So far it's all just talk and available in the highest end machines.?



John
JMK Services


-------- Original message --------
From: Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...>
Date: 2020-01-28 2:56 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
To: [email protected], murkyd@...
Subject: Re: [FOG] Altendorf wins award for camera-based saw safety system

I guess I need to replace three sliders now lol. I wonder how much my liability insurance would go down? I hope Altendorf will licence the tech to other manufacturers.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture

3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765

--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Altendorf wins award for camera-based saw safety system

 

I guess I need to replace three sliders now lol. I wonder how much my liability insurance would go down? I hope Altendorf will licence the tech to other manufacturers.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture

3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765

--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Altendorf wins award for camera-based saw safety system

 

I think all in all..its better than not having anything at all..?

On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 11:36:03 AM PST, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:


Kind of depends upon the area around the blade that causes it to trip¡­. timing would be greater the larger the area.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...
www.lambtoolworks.com




On Jan 28, 2020, at 11:15 AM, alain pilon <alain.pilon@...> wrote:

Maybe the article got it wrong, but it says the blade retracts in a quarter of a second? That sounds very slow. A SawStop breaks in 5ms, which is about 50 times faster.?

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 9:33 AM Bill B¨¦langer <Bllblngr@...> wrote:
Awesome!

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 05:17 "jmkserv@... <jmkserv@...> wrote:
Hope the link works.