Re: Power feeder recommendation for Hammer B3 Winner?
I'd go slow on that recommendation. The Comatic feeders are heavy, and expensive. James, have you put a Comatic feeder on a Hammer? I haven't, but I'd be worried about weight on a lighter machine like the Hammer. And the value for money proposition is a consideration.?
The OP didn't give his name, but I would ask a separate question to the FOG: do any of you have a Hammer feeder, and do you like it? Does it work well? Do you ever wish for the bigger "Felder/Comatic" versions?
Warm regards, Lucky
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Designer and Woodworker Luckensmeyer Pty Ltd M: 0413 013 115 ?
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On 14 Jan 2018, at 7:50 am, James Zhu james.zhu2@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Get Comatic power feeder, 3 or 4 wheel with standard or smart stand. Lots of folks here replace their Felder F48/F38 with Comatic power feeder
James
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Hi,
Been following the thread on the KF700 recommendations and was wondering what the power feeder recommendation for a B3 would be? Should I go with the standard Hammer 3 wheel and the folding mount bracket option or is there a better unit or other options I should consider?
Looking to use the shaper for some cabinet doors, v-groove glue ups, and maybe some molding. Although I¡¯m finding more options in the router bit world for molding.
Thanks.
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Re: Power feeder recommendation for Hammer B3 Winner?
Thanks, what are the deltas between the 3 wheel unit and the hammer one?
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Re: Power feeder recommendation for Hammer B3 Winner?
Get Comatic power feeder, 3 or 4 wheel with standard or smart stand. Lots of folks here replace their Felder F48/F38 with Comatic power feeder
James
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Hi,
Been following the thread on the KF700 recommendations and was wondering what the power feeder recommendation for a B3 would be? Should I go with the standard Hammer 3 wheel and the folding mount bracket option or is there a better unit or other options I should consider?
Looking to use the shaper for some cabinet doors, v-groove glue ups, and maybe some molding. Although I¡¯m finding more options in the router bit world for molding.
Thanks.
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Power feeder recommendation for Hammer B3 Winner?
Hi,
Been following the thread on the KF700 recommendations and was wondering what the power feeder recommendation for a B3 would be? Should I go with the standard Hammer 3 wheel and the folding mount bracket option or is there a better unit or other options I should consider?
Looking to use the shaper for some cabinet doors, v-groove glue ups, and maybe some molding. Although I¡¯m finding more options in the router bit world for molding.
Thanks.
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Copy and paste the picture, hopefully the picture shows up:) James On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 3:17 PM mac campshure mac512002@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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*llcmac campshure7412 elmwood ave.middleton, wi 53562-3106608-332-2330
<608-332-2330> cell*
*608-824-0023 <608-824-0023> fax*
*airtightclamps@...* <airtightclamps@...>
*airtightclamps.com <>*
*Designing and building for 47 years*
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On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:54 AM, James Zhu james.zhu2@...
[felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
I thought it would work, cause I replied with pictures using iPhone and
Gmail app.
James
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:39 AM vnh84@... [felder-woodworking] <
felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
James, if you included pictures, none can be seen. Probably's the FOG's
anti-attachment policy at work again.
I will need to clarify this with Liz Rogers.
Thanks!
SW
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Hey Mac I know if my current Chrome browser it won't allow you to paste a pic. Might be a security thing.
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Try copy paste from pictures? Designing and building for 47 years
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I thought it would work, cause I replied with pictures using iPhone and Gmail app.
James
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James, if you included pictures, none can be seen.? Probably's the FOG's anti-attachment policy at work again.??
I will need to clarify this with Liz Rogers.??
Thanks!
SW
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Try copy paste from pictures? Designing and building for 47 years
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On Jan 13, 2018, at 10:54 AM, James Zhu james.zhu2@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I thought it would work, cause I replied with pictures using iPhone and Gmail app.
James
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James, if you included pictures, none can be seen.? Probably's the FOG's anti-attachment policy at work again.??
I will need to clarify this with Liz Rogers.??
Thanks!
SW
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Re: M18 FUEL? SURGE? 1/4" Hex Hydraulic Driver
Hi George andVan,? The Milwaukees have a done-good by me.? For something I use a lot ?the brushless hydraulic is pretty snazzy. ? Hammer drills we use Hilti , Mikita And German Bauer.? I picked up a Bauer copy from HF big 1/2" right angle I don't use much but need it for electrical work around house.? We also have a huge 3' tall concrete breaker.?
George I have been looking at the Milwaukee light system with the stand very darn nice little prices but sure could use none electric light. Retiring my house I find my self in the dark know and than ,? The smaller hand heads don't do it!!? Designing and building for 47 years
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On Jan 13, 2018, at 8:10 AM, George george954679@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I don¡¯t have the M18 Fuel, just a regular M18 drill and M18 impact. Very happy with both. Recently I picked up the M18 LED Search Light. It was ?$100. It doesn¡¯t come with batteries or a charger. I already have that stuff. It has three settings. I haven¡¯t put it to the test yet on how long a battery will last on a charge. Online reviews have been favorable. The light this thing puts out is impressive. I like Milwaukee ¡®s tools. They¡¯re not Festool,but they are so reasonably priced I think they are a great value. George Gerstner?
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Greetings? I did pick up the Milwaukee fuel surge a few weeks ago and it is rad ,,,lots of snuff if needed it has four settings three for different torque settings and one for drilling. I have used on low setting for electrical panel work and in 3 have driven a ?bunch of 3" to ?5" screws and some bolts and the hydraulic drive is very easy on my arm the noise and hammering vibration.? My 25 mo old grand son loves it ! They are 130.00 bucks ?and I got a 5 amp battery for 100.00.? The drill in ?front is my old one and I know I ?have driven 20,000 to 30,000 2 to 4" screws in the last 6 years so she is tired but I still use . They are pretty much all you see on job sights around here.?
Mac,, Designing and building for 47 years
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Go to Home Depot and get a Rigid driver...warranted for life.?? Dave
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Re: Sliding table saw for small work
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I thought it would work, cause I replied with pictures using iPhone and Gmail app.
James
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James, if you included pictures, none can be seen.? Probably's the FOG's anti-attachment policy at work again.??
I will need to clarify this with Liz Rogers.??
Thanks!
SW
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James, if you included pictures, none can be seen.? Probably's the FOG's anti-attachment policy at work again.??
I will need to clarify this with Liz Rogers.??
Thanks!
SW
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Re: Sliding table saw for small work
Two parallel guides with built in measurement like the Felder units, I don't know if Brian's parallel guides have measurement, Macs clamps or any clamp mounted to the slot and you can accurately measure and Bridge clamp any width down to about 1/2". Fritz and Franz can also be used if they have measurement added.
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 9:46 AM, joelgelman@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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I recently came across this video:
This is a followup video from the guy who also has a video on how he makes his Fritz Franz jig.? My first exposure to the Fritz Franz was when I visited Joe Calhoon, who also had the Mac Clamps. ? When I got my Martin saw, I got the Mac Clamps without delay, and I also got a parallel fence from Brian Lamb.? On the Fritz Franz, I figured the one Scott was selling with the Martin name on it would be better than shop made:
Now that I have had these things for awhile, I found that if I want to crosscut wood or cut down plywood, the accurate crosscut fence and the Mac Clamps work great.? For ripping long boards that have a reasonable width, the addition of the parallel fence helps insure accuracy along the length of the cut.
However, when it comes to ripping long or shorter more narrow boards, I do not think I have anything that appears to work anywhere near as well as the jig with the t-track that is in the above link.? The expensive Martin Fritz Franz offers the option to secure the wood at any angle, and is nice for those who do not have Mac clamps for certain cuts.? However, for ripping with 90 degree cuts (something I do way more often than angled cuts), you have to square the Martin sold jig, and you have no easy way of measuring the width of the cut (other than sliding the wood up to the blade and adjusting unless I am missing something) and insuring a parallel cut. ?
Has anyone made and had experience with this jig or found a better option for these cuts or made any upgraded jig for this purpose with better stops etc. ?
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Re: Sliding table saw for small work
Easy to make a F & F jig with accurate stops and there are several approaches. Instead of the standard T Track that Steve Rowe uses in the video I used the Incra track system with the Shop Stop which indexes every 1mm and is repeatable - which is useful as it allows you to go back to the same dimension quickly every time. On the rare occasion I need something that is midway between the digits (ie 35.4 for example) you can adjust the stops without upsetting the original setting. Parts are here ?for the 18 inch length
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Re: Sliding table saw for small work
I recently came across this video:
This is a followup video from the guy who also has a video on how he makes his Fritz Franz jig. ?My first exposure to the Fritz Franz was when I visited Joe Calhoon, who also had the Mac Clamps. ? When I got my Martin saw, I got the Mac Clamps without delay, and I also got a parallel fence from Brian Lamb. ?On the Fritz Franz, I figured the one Scott was selling with the Martin name on it would be better than shop made:
Now that I have had these things for awhile, I found that if I want to crosscut wood or cut down plywood, the accurate crosscut fence and the Mac Clamps work great. ?For ripping long boards that have a reasonable width, the addition of the parallel fence helps insure accuracy along the length of the cut.
However, when it comes to ripping long or shorter more narrow boards, I do not think I have anything that appears to work anywhere near as well as the jig with the t-track that is in the above link. ?The expensive Martin Fritz Franz offers the option to secure the wood at any angle, and is nice for those who do not have Mac clamps for certain cuts. ?However, for ripping with 90 degree cuts (something I do way more often than angled cuts), you have to square the Martin sold jig, and you have no easy way of measuring the width of the cut (other than sliding the wood up to the blade and adjusting unless I am missing something) and insuring a parallel cut. ?
Has anyone made and had experience with this jig or found a better option for these cuts or made any upgraded jig for this purpose with better stops etc. ?
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Re: M18 FUEL? SURGE? 1/4" Hex Hydraulic Driver
I don¡¯t have the M18 Fuel, just a regular M18 drill and M18 impact. Very happy with both. Recently I picked up the M18 LED Search Light. It was ?$100. It doesn¡¯t come with batteries or a charger. I already have that stuff. It has three settings. I haven¡¯t put it to the test yet on how long a battery will last on a charge. Online reviews have been favorable. The light this thing puts out is impressive. I like Milwaukee ¡®s tools. They¡¯re not Festool,but they are so reasonably priced I think they are a great value. George Gerstner?
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Greetings? I did pick up the Milwaukee fuel surge a few weeks ago and it is rad ,,,lots of snuff if needed it has four settings three for different torque settings and one for drilling. I have used on low setting for electrical panel work and in 3 have driven a ?bunch of 3" to ?5" screws and some bolts and the hydraulic drive is very easy on my arm the noise and hammering vibration.? My 25 mo old grand son loves it ! They are 130.00 bucks ?and I got a 5 amp battery for 100.00.? The drill in ?front is my old one and I know I ?have driven 20,000 to 30,000 2 to 4" screws in the last 6 years so she is tired but I still use . They are pretty much all you see on job sights around here.?
Mac,, Designing and building for 47 years
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Go to Home Depot and get a Rigid driver...warranted for life.?? Dave
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This is the DRO on my 2017 KF700sp, same as the DRO on David Best¡¯s Kappa 400. IMO, DRO is not very useful without micro adjustment. I use micro adjustment all the times to get to the exact spot, it would be very difficult or time consuming to do that without it. James On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 12:56 AM vnh84@... [felder-woodworking] < felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
Liz Rogers directed my attention to the digital stops and cross cut fence
option for the Felder 700 series machines today. She noted that the setup
that is paired with the Kappa series is different from the setup that is
paired with the 700 series machine. I went back to check Felder's website,
catalog, and my quote. Sure enough, I am seeing confusing data.
Page 28 of the current PDF catalog (available online, labeled catalog
2016) pictures the stops that match the ones photographed by David Best.
Same one as pictured on Felder's page for the KF 700 SP and K 700 S.
Page 47 of same catalog shows a different picture of the digital stop for
the K 700 series machine. The black knobs of the digital stop of the Kappa
saw are not pictured.
I then checked my quote's picture of the digital stop. It is the same as
the one on page 47.
To add more to the confusion. Felder's webpage for the KF 700 SP pictures
the digital stop on page 28 (same as the one David has for his Kappa), NOT
the one on page 47 or in the PDF quote I received.
I have seen videos of the Kappa series digital stops in operation, both
from Felder and from David. I have not seen the one associated with the K
700 series saw. Or maybe I just missed the difference all together!
Looking at the picture on page 47 of the catalog and in my quote PDF, I
don't see how the digital stop can be micro adjusted similarly to the
Kappa's.
Has anyone recently took delivery of a K 700 series digital stops? Can
you post some pictures? Are the digital stops different from the Kappa's?
Does Felder really make two versions of this accessories for the two
respective saw classes?
Confused...
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Glen get the basics so you can get the machines setup. Keep it simple to start, most Felder blades work really well and will get you started and are typically easy to aquire. If you want some wacky Japanese blade that takes six months get and you have sell your firstborn to buy it can wait. Most saw/shaper tooling on your side of the border is available next day and can be acquired as needed IMHO
Felder 12" rip,?
Felder 12" crosscut. It will crosscut both hardwood and veneer stock. use scoring with veneer, I've also in a pinch ripped hardwood, cut melamine with scoring, no chipout
Felder Dado set? 200mm. I've used this unit and it performs great and can be used to setup shaper with 30mm spindle. It will cover 90% of all dado and grooving needs that are typically encountered.
Another blade is Leitz 12" Glueline, that again IMHO is a superior performer.
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:40 AM, GLEN chris3645@... [felder-woodworking] <felder-woodworking@...> wrote:
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Mark,
I am following your venture here. I am where your at.. make choices. I can tell you without the people here I would have made some bad decisions. I have learned more from this forum than anywhere else.
David Best and many others here know there stuff. some day I will too, but for now these guys helped me greatly in deciding what i wanted to buy and needed. I am at the point of you maybe, time to buy the stuff for the machines. Blades, Cutterheads, ect. My machines are here on pallets and I need to figure out some tooling before commissioning. This will be an interest part of the project.
Glen ?
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David's explanation is the best I have ever seen. I think what you really have to ask your self is what type of work are you going to do with it and will it help that process? Projects in my shop seem to always be one offs where nothing ever fits any standard not have any repetition. This type accessory I think is very nice but for my work it would be a complete waste of $$. YMMV. Good luck making your final choices. I am on a quest to figure what blades to buy...
Mark
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Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos
Dave Davies - I¡¯m still waiting for that photo you promised of the Thickness Stop with ¡°analog measurement unit¡±. ? Did you forsake me?
David Best
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David, ?? I'll take a picture of my thickness stop tonight for you.? I've yet to use it and didn't notice if it had an "analog" measurement system.? At most it would have been etchings in the aluminum but I don't recall even that.
?? I wish I could spend more time in the shop but our embroidery business has exploded lately.
?? Have you progressed on deciding if you're going to market the Fritz and Franz? Dave
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This is indeed confusing and news to me if they¡¯ve changed the digital stop configuration when applied to the 700-series machines. ? Felder is always changing things without telling anyone outside the employee group, so I wouldn¡¯t discount what Liz says or the photos in the catalog, but I would verify the information. ? I will offer the comments that the photo of the 700-series digital stop (page 47) is identical to the stop on my Kappa except it has no micro adjust and the locking element (kip lever in the photo) is different from the knob on top of my digital stops. ? This could be a cost saving approach for digital stops on the 700-series - to eliminate the micro-adjust. ? The fence extrusion itself in the reference photo looks to be the same as the one on the Kappa, but there isn¡¯t enough shown to know for certain. ?To be sure, the micro-adjust adds expense, and while I use it occasionally, I don¡¯t find it a ¡°must have¡± thing - easy enough to bump the stop into the desired position IMO. ?
If the photo represents ¡°truth¡± I¡¯m not sure it matters much except that the micro-adjust is missing. ? I seriously doubt the fence extrusion is different, and the width of the stops with the Kipp lever sticking out the left side is probably similar to the stops with micro-adjust on that side.
Felder sends a power point presentation to their field sale reps regularly updating them on new machines and the details of equipment changes. ? I have repeatedly asked for this information to be made available to the cognoscenti within the user community, but the response is has been identical to my charge to John Renzetti to opine on the topic of moving FOG to a new platform - meaning silence. ? You might ask Liz to send you a copy of the field update presentation that discusses the digital fence differences - I¡¯ve asked for this in the past and when a sales situation demands it, they have complied with copies of the sales update presentations. ? ?I have found that saying something like ¡°this sale hinges on XYZ, and I won¡¯t be making a decision until I receive documentation about that point¡± brings response - not always completely forthcoming, but quicker than just asking for clarification. ??
As a corollary to this factual fog bank, I recently I ordered a new Lexus SUV custom build (thanks to Lucky again for raising the bar), and I had to put stop payment on the deposit check to get an answer to ¡°what exactly is included in the ¡°towing package¡± option that costs $150?¡± ? Before I took that action, I kept getting what I felt were uninformed answers designed to quell objections rather than answer the specifics. ? The sales people kept giving me their personal speculation about what it is, rather than digging into the facts at corporate. ?
David Best
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Liz Rogers directed my attention to the digital stops and cross cut fence option for the Felder 700 series machines today.? She noted that the setup that is paired with the Kappa series is different from the setup that is paired with the 700 series machine.? I went back to check Felder's website, catalog, and my quote.? Sure enough, I am seeing confusing data.
Page 28 of the current PDF catalog (available online, labeled catalog 2016) pictures the stops that match the ones photographed by David Best.? Same one as pictured on Felder's page for the KF 700 SP and K 700 S.
Page 47 of same catalog shows a different picture of the digital stop for the K 700 series machine.? The black knobs of the digital stop of the Kappa saw are not pictured.??
I then checked my quote's picture of the digital stop.? It is the same as the one on page 47.
To add more to the confusion.? Felder's webpage for the KF 700 SP pictures the digital stop on page 28 (same as the one David has for his Kappa), NOT the one on page 47 or in the PDF quote I received.? ?
I have seen videos of the Kappa series digital stops in operation, both from Felder and from David.? I have not seen the one associated with the K 700 series saw.? Or maybe I just missed the difference all together!??
Looking at the picture on page 47 of the catalog and in my quote PDF, I don't see how the digital stop can be micro adjusted similarly to the Kappa's.??
Has anyone recently took delivery of a K 700 series digital stops?? Can you post some pictures?? Are the digital stops different from the Kappa's?? Does Felder really make two versions of this accessories for the two respective saw classes???
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David Luckensmeyer
David P. Best