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Re: Kundig Uniq

 

2800# actually Mac. Heaviest thing in the shop.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Groover / Dado advice

 
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Kamal,
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I have been using two 250mm (10 inch) ripping blades (FS Tools) stacked on the spindle to cut longer tenons. I am using the Hammer tenoning hood on my B3. Works well for my hobbyist use.
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Regards,
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Jacques


Re: Kundig Uniq

 

I saw this earlier today on FB.
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Not to be that guy, but having owned both the Kundig UNIQ and the Hammer HS950 they are light years apart.
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The Kundig new these days is $25k plus options.? So if the machine is in good working order it is a steal.
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The Hammer HS950 is a great unit and a bargain but it is not a Kundig Uniq.? The Kundig weighs in at 1300 pounds, I believe, and the fit/finish and quality are top notch - as in Martin like.? The belt will oscillate almost 4" and the accessories are well thought out.? Plus the dust collection for me is really good compared to all other machines I have seen/used.? The Rehnen SK-1, SK-2, SK-3 have really great dust collection also, but no bed tilt is possible on those machines.
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Is the Kundig Uniq worth $25k plus accessories and shipping/tax for a hobbiest shop?? Probably not, but used at a great price, it will give you many years of pleasurable use.? The same argument can be made about any of the machines we own.? Is a kappa 450 x-motion worth 3x the price of a K700?? I think so, but many will not.
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Also, the resale on a Kundig is usually pretty strong.
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PK


Re: Groover / Dado advice

 

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Hi Kamal,

8¡± will work on saw and shaper. If you have a need for deeper than 3¡± depth of groove on shaper then you need 10¡± or 12¡± dado and both require tenoning hood. I plan to make my own tenoning hood out of plywood, which most likes not meet any safety standards

I recently bought Ridge Carbide 8¡± box joint dado which does 3/16 to 7/16 dados and depth of cut is just under 3¡±.

The 220mm Felder rebate heads I have, are also about 3¡±. I cannot get a narrow groove though as they are 31mm tall.

Just thought I mention it. I wish someone made a 9¡± dado so we could take full advantage of 700 series shaper hood.

Imran Malik
IAM Wood Creations

On Dec 26, 2024, at 10:41?AM, KRPatel via groups.io <kamalsonal@...> wrote:

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Thanks fellas for the responses and will be going with the Forrest 8" set...that is, if I can find any in stock ;(.
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Imran and Rich, good point on the 6" set as I do want flexibility to cut greater depth of cuts.
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Kamal Patel


Re: 160 mm dust collection ducting in the USA

 

Michael, You are correct.? Like PVT there are always other factors, sometimes known and sometimes unknown and even unknown unknown. That's why the curve is king.? I size fan systems for lumber dry kilns.? Fans and drives are sized based on the math and experience and we always round up or "oversize".? We normally use VFD's in lieu of across the line starters (both are similar cost) so speeds can be reduced when tuning the system on start-up.? This saves power operating cost, overdried pockets AND keeps us out of trouble with the customers.? Math is important but experience avoids problems and produces the most cost effective solution.?
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Betty Crocker used to add a note to the baking instructions for high elevations.? We live at 4000' where water boils at 204f so mostly ignore this factor.? I do take 1 club less on the golf course though.


Re: How low does your hammer K3 blade go?

 

I have a model year 2000 K3 and ended up disposing of the 315 mm blades I naively purchased when I bought the saw. I don't specifically remember exactly how far below the table top a 315 mm blade could go on this saw. But the bigger problem I encountered was that swapping between the 300 mm blades I normally use and a 315 mm blade entails resetting the riving knife, at least if you desire the riving knife to be positioned a hair below the top edge of a 300 mm blade (so as to stay on for non through cuts). And on the K3, resetting the position of the riving knife is a very fiddly and unfun procedure, as discussed a number of times previously here. I also have at least a vague recollection that the interplay between the Hammer riving knife and the mechanism may not have allowed for sufficient range to position the riving knife below the top of a 315 mm blade. I could be mistaken on this last point, however.
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As a separate matter, even with a 300 mm blade, I always remove the zero clearance insert to change blades. Maybe it's possible not to do so--I'm not sure I have ever tried. But certainly, it makes things easier, given the need to maneuver the blade in a confined space and line up the bore holes.
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David


Re: Groover / Dado advice

 

Thanks fellas for the responses and will be going with the Forrest 8" set...that is, if I can find any in stock ;(.
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Imran and Rich, good point on the 6" set as I do want flexibility to cut greater depth of cuts.
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Kamal Patel


Re: Kundig Uniq

 

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Sweet machine.? My Oakley H48 has 7" plattens and the extra inch is something I wish I had, more so than the length.? Dave


From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...>
Sent:?Thursday, December 26, 2024 10:03 AM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [FOG] Kundig Uniq
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I've used the Kundig before. It is a nice machine, but it is small. For me, hard to beat is my Ekstrom Carlson 112. Two, 8" high x 58" long plattens. 60" tilting tables, plus a tilting end table.?



Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Kundig Uniq

 

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Jason, that¡¯s pretty cool classy sander. You¡¯re a lucky guy things got away 1800 pounds.

martin/campshure/co/llc
mac campshure
7412 elmwood ave.
middleton, wi 53562-3106
608-332-2330?cell

Designing and building for 50 years


On Dec 26, 2024, at 7:03?AM, Jason Holtz via groups.io <jholtzy@...> wrote:

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I've used the Kundig before. It is a nice machine, but it is small. For me, hard to beat is my Ekstrom Carlson 112. Two, 8" high x 58" long plattens. 60" tilting tables, plus a tilting end table.?
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Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Kundig Uniq

 

I've used the Kundig before. It is a nice machine, but it is small. For me, hard to beat is my Ekstrom Carlson 112. Two, 8" high x 58" long plattens. 60" tilting tables, plus a tilting end table.?



Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos

 

Like JoelGelman's T27, my TF-130 has two sets of pin locations for the hood.
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The primary pin locations are optimized for using shaper tooling and the fence plates won't retract any further than the face of the spindle shaft.?
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The secondary pin locations are located in such a manner that the fence plates can be positioned several inches behind the center line of the spindle, allowing through-milling such as dovetails:?
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As Joel and others have suggested, your best option would be to drill two new/additional holes to index your hood assembly in a second location.?
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Tom Gensmer
Heritage Home Renewals, LLC
Minneapolis, MN


Re: Kundig Uniq

 

By that context, it looks like a bargain for someone with an eye for Kundig equipment and extra room in the budget at year end.


On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 8:04?AM David Davies via <myfinishingtouch=[email protected]> wrote:
Brett,
? ?They very rarely show up on the used market.? They are built like a tank when compared to the lighter weight new offerings.? New they are $20K
Dave Davies

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:23?AM Brett Wissel via <Brettwissel=[email protected]> wrote:
Those don't come around?often ... I know Kundig seems to have quite?the reputation ... but is $7500 the right price? How much were/are these?machines new??

I'm not sure what distinguishes it from a lower price offering? like the Felder/Hammer HS950. I finally picked one up this summer and can't imagine what could be better besides a longer platen/bed. That machine is like $2000 brand new, right??

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:04?AM David Davies via <myfinishingtouch=[email protected]> wrote:
On FB's Cabinet Makers Machinery Swap
$7,500
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Dave Davies



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Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...



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Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868



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Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...


Re: Kundig Uniq

 

Brett,
? ?They very rarely show up on the used market.? They are built like a tank when compared to the lighter weight new offerings.? New they are $20K
Dave Davies

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:23?AM Brett Wissel via <Brettwissel=[email protected]> wrote:
Those don't come around?often ... I know Kundig seems to have quite?the reputation ... but is $7500 the right price? How much were/are these?machines new??

I'm not sure what distinguishes it from a lower price offering? like the Felder/Hammer HS950. I finally picked one up this summer and can't imagine what could be better besides a longer platen/bed. That machine is like $2000 brand new, right??

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:04?AM David Davies via <myfinishingtouch=[email protected]> wrote:
On FB's Cabinet Makers Machinery Swap
$7,500
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Dave Davies



--
Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...



--
Dave & Marie Davies

318-219-7868


Re: Kundig Uniq

 

Those don't come around?often ... I know Kundig seems to have quite?the reputation ... but is $7500 the right price? How much were/are these?machines new??

I'm not sure what distinguishes it from a lower price offering? like the Felder/Hammer HS950. I finally picked one up this summer and can't imagine what could be better besides a longer platen/bed. That machine is like $2000 brand new, right??

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 7:04?AM David Davies via <myfinishingtouch=[email protected]> wrote:
On FB's Cabinet Makers Machinery Swap
$7,500
?
Dave Davies



--
Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...


Kundig Uniq

 

On FB's Cabinet Makers Machinery Swap
$7,500
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Dave Davies


Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos

 

The Martin T-27 has 2 sets of holes allowing the Aigner to be secured in a front or back position (125mm back). ?The touch screen allows you to select the position and the settings are adjusted accordingly. ?When used as a router table, all features of the Aigner fence are available. ?In contrast, the Martin T-12 has a post that projects upward behind the fence as that goes to the touchscreen, and that prevents the fence from moving back far enough to use the Aigner with the integral fence. ?The older literature touts the ability to use router bits, but the picture shows the fence without the integral fence jaws attached (see attached). ?When you add the thickness of the integral fence, the fence is too far forward.
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I mention this not to suggest one needs a T-27. ?I am suggesting that if a shaper has a fence assembly that can be pushed back and secured in that position (tap 2 holes), that may be a nice way to take advantage of the integral fence features while having the shaper double as a router table. If the shaper has a fence position reading where it "thinks" it is in the forward position when it is not, perhaps by knowing the amount of setback, you just adjust by that amount each time you are in the back position.
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Just something that comes to mind
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Re: 160 mm dust collection ducting in the USA

 
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On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 07:47 AM, Jonathan Smith wrote:
Flow x pressure = horsepower
The formula oversimplifies reality, as horsepower is directed through impeller designs with different efficiencies.? And even for a given impeller design, the efficiency of pushing air is affected by atmospheric pressure.? Or to put it another way, you need a constant factor added into the equation that accounts for impeller design and atmospheric pressure.? A few hundred feet of elevation one way or the other doesn't make enough of a difference to worry about.? But here in Lake Tahoe, the ~1950m elevation makes a material difference.
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Any dust collector manufacturer worth dealing with will publish a fan-curve chart for the collector's performance at the inlet, which will allow one to avoid the need for test equipment to measure the static pressure of the collector, but those fan curve charts will be calculated for something close to sea level.? Better manufacturers will be able to supply a fan curve chart adjusted for a specific altitude.? For example, here's what Al-Ko has provided me for an 160P, with the sea-level and 2000m curves showing the drop in performance at my altitude:
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Not every vendor will offer that personal service, so the alternative is finding a reference for a static pressure adjustment factor for a given altitude.? Al-Ko's standard fan-curve is calculated at 400m altitude, while their adjusted chart shows a drop of about 500 Pa at my altitude.? Using the reference book adjustment factor of 1.27 increase in static pressure for my elevation, and you get a result that pretty closely matches their adjusted chart.? With either approach, it's then reasonable to use something like Bill Pentz's spreadsheet to estimate ductwork static pressure, and have a good chance of designing a dust collection system that will function as expected once purchased and installed.? I'm a one man operation, so the simplicity of planning for a single tool at a time works for me.? Bill's spreadsheet won't work for anyone designing a multi-tool collection system, as he acknowledges.? Even his advice for calculating dust collection for a single tool with multiple dust ports is a bit questionable.? Were I looking at a multi-tool collection system, I'd just bite the bullet and pay a professional to do the more complex math needed.


Re: K 740 s sliding table start/stop button not operated

 

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Hi Gurer,

If the saw runs from the switch on the chassis then the cable connection must have been made. If it does not run at all then look for a cable under the slider and a mating one in the chassis. These need to be connected.

Even if the cable is connected and the saw does not run or runs intermittently it could be that the ways in the slider need cleaning. Common occurrence on new saws.

Look for 2 wires, one on each side, that come out of a hole underneath the slider and connect to the ways with a ring terminal. These are from the slider switches. Electrical signal is transferred from the slider to the extrusion below via the ways and bearings. I have only seen this once so going from memory but at least should be good enough to get the idea across.

Just clean the ways with a dry lubricant like LPS1 or similar. Hopefully, this will get you going. If not, I can try helping over a whattsapp call. Have done it a few times for owners overseas.

Imran Malik
IAM Wood Creations

On Dec 25, 2024, at 12:07?PM, ³Ò¨¹°ù±ð°ù via groups.io <gurerwoodcraft@...> wrote:

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Hello everyone, I have a K 740 s and my on/off buttons on the sliding table are not working. I had the machine's electrical panel checked by a good technician. He said everything seemed normal. I also contacted an authorized Felder technician in T¨¹rkiye. He only sent an electrical diagram, gave advice from a distance and frankly I don't think he knows his job very well. The authorized service is very far from the city I live in and they wanted a high service fee to come to the workshop and check it. If anyone has encountered such a situation before or has an idea about this, I would be happy to hear from them.
Notice: The things I checked,
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1. I checked the 9-volt battery that operates the control buttons.
2.I checked the electrical and electronic equipment of the machine (including fuses). There may be things we missed.
3.I tried to reprogram the radio transmitters inside the electrical panel according to the diagram sent by the technician, but I did not get any results.Thank you for reading. I used Google Translate so there may be some typos. Sorry about that.
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K 740 s sliding table start/stop button not operated

 
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Hello everyone, I have a K 740 s and my on/off buttons on the sliding table are not working. I had the machine's electrical panel checked by a good technician. He said everything seemed normal. I also contacted an authorized Felder technician in T¨¹rkiye. He only sent an electrical diagram, gave advice from a distance and frankly I don't think he knows his job very well. The authorized service is very far from the city I live in and they wanted a high service fee to come to the workshop and check it. If anyone has encountered such a situation before or has an idea about this, I would be happy to hear from them.
Notice: The things I checked,
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1. I checked the 9-volt battery that operates the control buttons.
2.I checked the electrical and electronic equipment of the machine (including fuses). There may be things we missed.
3.I tried to reprogram the radio transmitters inside the electrical panel according to the diagram sent by the technician, but I did not get any results.Thank you for reading. I used Google Translate so there may be some typos. Sorry about that.


Re: Aigner shaper accessories on Felder Combos

 

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One member trimmed the front end of the micro adjust block so the fence moves further back. ?That or drilling and tapping a new set of holes. At least locating the holes should be easy as there are 2 sets, so just drill in line. I recently drilled and tapped for bowmouldmaster and it really was pretty easy. The main hurdle was to find a good spot on the casting for the holes, especially avoiding the webs underneath.

Imran Malik
IAM Wood Creations

On Dec 24, 2024, at 10:45?PM, Hammans Stallings via groups.io <hammans.stallings@...> wrote:

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Has anyone figured out a good solution to running the high speed router spindle with the Aigner integral fence given its larger fence thickness/depth? I assume I could always move back to the original fences but am curious if anyone has a smarter solution.?
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Thanks again, all.?

My best,
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Hammans