Re: Christmas in November
There are commissioning checklists in the files section. ?Sounds like you’re in for a long night of supervision. ?
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:44?AM, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
? David, I hope it is that simple! I will not do anything with it until the tech gets here, though. I do not want Felder telling me I broke something! I appreciate the input about possible causes/solutions, so I know what to expect from the technician.
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I did observe that the stop that limits the slider movement is placed incorrectly, so the slider will not clear the cover for the blade. That will be easy to fix.
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John Hinman
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Re: Christmas in November
David, I hope it is that simple! I will not do anything with it until the tech gets here, though. I do not want Felder telling me I broke something! I appreciate the input about possible causes/solutions, so I know what to expect from the technician.
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I did observe that the stop that limits the slider movement is placed incorrectly, so the slider will not clear the cover for the blade. That will be easy to fix.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Kappa 450X and A941
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
Weird, I don't have that knob/shaft attached to mine. I'll have to look at my loose parts that came with my machine to see if it's laying around.
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Re: Christmas in November
Most likely then, the bearing cage needs to be centered. To do this, force the sliding table to the absolute extreme end of travel in both directions. ?That will center the bearing cage. ? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:34?AM, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
? Yes, I did.
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John Hinman
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
Natanel,
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I know I sent you my photos but that "Knob and shaft" are definitely attached to the motor mount to lock the tension.
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PK
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Re: Christmas in November
Yes, I did.
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John Hinman
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Kappa 450X and A941
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Re: F700Z slider to cast-iron height difference
Hi, I do a fair amount of template copying and have never had an issue with using a pattern that bridges the cast and sliding table.
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The angle induced is so small as to inconsequential .
When tenoning I use the tenon table and guard.
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The tenon hood allows for larger cutters and the guard provides protection from the cutter when the tenon isn’t being cut.
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Regards, Rod
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Re: Christmas in November
Did you remove the plastic transporting locking dowels that are wedged in between the bearing ways of the lower carriage and the sliding table? ?? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:22?AM, John Hinman via groups.io <jhinman1911@...> wrote:
? Today is the day! Tech is supposed to arrive late this afternoon for commissioning.
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I did mount the slider onto the saw, so I could verify clearances. This slider is very hard to move. It takes two hands to move it. I hope that is a simple thing for the tech to fix.
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John Hinman
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Re: F700Z slider to cast-iron height difference
I guess I should also point out that for template pattern work, I use a spiral cutter that is only 100mm in diameter with an integral rub bearing. ? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 7:17?AM, David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> wrote:
? Frankly, I have never had a situation where the tiny induced angle was an issue during template routing. ?I mean we’re talking about less than 0.1° here. ?But if I was truly concerned about it, I would probably just tilt the shaper spindle backwards the required amount to nullify the discrepancy.? David Best - via mobile phone? On Dec 9, 2024, at 6:34?AM, Cornelius via groups.io <Cornelius@...> wrote:
? David and Imran,
Thanks?again for your valuable feedback. David, there is one more question?relating to template routing - how do I fit this into the equation of having the slider 0.15mm higher than the cast iron? When you work using templates and remove the fence, do you simply cover the entire slider and cast iron with a material equivalent to the sled you described and cut out a hole the size of your cutterhead? It seems that I would need to be covering the beautiful cast iron table for a lot of my work - for template work and profiling wide boards on a sled. And the wide boards don't even need to be terribly wide since there is not much cast iron left before the slider interferes if I use a 180-200mm diameter cutterhead.
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Re: Christmas in November
Today is the day! Tech is supposed to arrive late this afternoon for commissioning.
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I did mount the slider onto the saw, so I could verify clearances. This slider is very hard to move. It takes two hands to move it. I hope that is a simple thing for the tech to fix.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Kappa 450X and A941
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Re: F700Z slider to cast-iron height difference
Frankly, I have never had a situation where the tiny induced angle was an issue during template routing. ?I mean we’re talking about less than 0.1° here. ?But if I was truly concerned about it, I would probably just tilt the shaper spindle backwards the required amount to nullify the discrepancy.? David Best - via mobile phone?
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 6:34?AM, Cornelius via groups.io <Cornelius@...> wrote:
? David and Imran,
Thanks?again for your valuable feedback. David, there is one more question?relating to template routing - how do I fit this into the equation of having the slider 0.15mm higher than the cast iron? When you work using templates and remove the fence, do you simply cover the entire slider and cast iron with a material equivalent to the sled you described and cut out a hole the size of your cutterhead? It seems that I would need to be covering the beautiful cast iron table for a lot of my work - for template work and profiling wide boards on a sled. And the wide boards don't even need to be terribly wide since there is not much cast iron left before the slider interferes if I use a 180-200mm diameter cutterhead.
Cornelius Schultze-Kraft Cyprus
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Re: F700Z slider to cast-iron height difference
David and Imran,
Thanks?again for your valuable feedback. David, there is one more question?relating to template routing - how do I fit this into the equation of having the slider 0.15mm higher than the cast iron? When you work using templates and remove the fence, do you simply cover the entire slider and cast iron with a material equivalent to the sled you described and cut out a hole the size of your cutterhead? It seems that I would need to be covering the beautiful cast iron table for a lot of my work - for template work and profiling wide boards on a sled. And the wide boards don't even need to be terribly wide since there is not much cast iron left before the slider interferes if I use a 180-200mm diameter cutterhead.
Cornelius Schultze-Kraft Cyprus
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
Netanel, I wired my power feed outlet on my go Gomad so it has its own push button to start on my panel so I can test it without the shaper running and when its feeding with the shaper of running and I have to kill the switch to stop it running with the shaper running it cuts out when I start the shaper back up. The power feed doesn’t start until I activate As for that power feeder, don’t have once I can’t tell you, but I can’t tell you that the roller should be precisely set parallel to the table xyz. The only time you don’t want them running parallel with the table is if you’re using one of the rollers to feed radius work. Mac,, Designing and building for 50 years
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 2:49?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:
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2)Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing, I am not referring to the picture you attached where you move the PF, but to move the base that is attached to the shaper.
I tired to change the part that is attached to the machine chassis without any success, but base is stuck. When do you place the PF when you try to swing it away?
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3)I actually create a spacer from aluminum block like you did only to found out that Felder changed the design and now they use 3 holes an not one. now I need to order a new block from Mc-master :\
4)I'll contact Felder after I'll get some mileage
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
Nate,
Repeating what David said a little differently. Loosen the lock for swinging the PF between horizontal and vertical and lift up on black knob up front (pink arrow) and lock it in the desired position. I think 1-2 mm can be removed just by doing this.
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 4:43?AM, David P. Best via groups.io <dbestworkshop@...> wrote: ? With these two adjustment points you should be able to get the feeder tires perfectly aligned to be coplanar to the cast iron top:
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 1:27?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:
For the complainer, I don’t see the 2nd lever you refer to.
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i only have 3 lever there, one that control the tilt, but it has a fix indexing ping that prevent it from doing small increments.
the 2nd control the elevation and the third just lock the elevation.
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Re: Hardware for hanging wall cabinets
Given that your base cabinets are already in place, do yourself a huge favor and pick up a pair of Third Hand cabinet jacks?from Fastcap. They make installing the uppers in this situation a breeze.
I've only used the metal hanging rail system that Ikea uses, and it is very slick. This one from PM is available individually if you don't need to buy 100 like the link you provided.?
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
Neither one of those t-nuts will meet the requirements. ?You need two set-screws to anchor the T-nut in the slider, and counterbores at each end so you can reverse the T-nut for leveling with grub screws in the shoulders on one side of the T-nut.
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 1:54?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:
I am meeting tomorrow with the metal shop guy to discuss the final details.
The new T-nut is still faulty and doesn’t register properly. Here is a comparison between the two.
ill give more detials Tomorrow
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thanks for the help.
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
I am meeting tomorrow with the metal shop guy to discuss the final details.
The new T-nut is still faulty and doesn’t register properly. Here is a comparison between the two.
ill give more detials Tomorrow
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thanks for the help.
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
Say more - I don’t understand. ?I was wondering today if you’d gotten a quote for the T-nut and how you were moving forward on this.
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 1:39?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:
By the way, they also changed a bit the T nut that secured the short cross cut fence.
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
With these two adjustment points you should be able to get the feeder tires perfectly aligned to be coplanar to the cast iron top:
David Best
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On Dec 9, 2024, at 1:27?AM, netanel.belgazal via groups.io <netanel.belgazal@...> wrote:
For the complainer, I don’t see the 2nd lever you refer to.
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i only have 3 lever there, one that control the tilt, but it has a fix indexing ping that prevent it from doing small increments.
the 2nd control the elevation and the third just lock the elevation.
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Re: Profil 45Z commission and setup
By the way, they also changed a bit the T nut that secured the short cross cut fence.
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David P. Best
Larry Long Neck
PK
rodsheridan
imran
Jason Holtz