Re: More info on shaper tooling for making doors
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Thank you for the kind words!? The Whitehill set was a lot of fun to try out and I could have easily made a 45 minute video showing more details.? ?I'm hoping to try out the other options later this year.? Stay tuned!
Brent
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Hi Brandon, I also suggest "buy as you need" for the most part because package deals are not that common, though they do exist.? It is hard to beat limiter blocks (some call them insert heads) where you swap out HSS knives for different profiles if you are running lower volumes.? Good quality HSS will still give you thousands of linear feet in solid wood but not as long as carbide inserts/tip.? Though some companies give you the option of using carbide tipped knives in a limiter block for a longer run time.? A carbide insert rebate block will let you do most of your rabbit joints and Patten milling work, and your machine is large enough to run a 125mm block.? Whitehill sells a combi head that is a rebate block and limiter head in one.? Seperate heads are handy, but this does save you money and they have a version designed to be flush mounted on Felder machines for tenoning one side at a time too.? I have some videos on my channel about those blocks.??
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Re: sliding table not traveling straight.
Hello,
I¡¯m not an expert, but think it could be related to board tension, as am having it constantly especially on melamine mdf. To overcome this problem I cut oversize first to relieve the tension then straight cut and rip and is spot on. I know is a nuisance, but works!
Best of luck!
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Re: Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
THE SERVICE INDUSTRY IS DEAD IN AMERICA!!!
Plain and simple.
Wade
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On May 26, 2023, at 8:46 PM, Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
? Someone in my shop had a mishap with my SCM Sandya widebelt a couple months ago. He was sanding a bunch of short pieces, and one got hung up inside the machine and he wasn't aware. Later someone else went to use it, and was raising the conveyor height, and this piece was directly underneath the head. As a result, the head got out of alignment?with the bed.? I called SCM support, and got a call back within a couple of hours. I spoke directly to a tech, who asked for some further info which I provided. Then I never heard from him again, despite multiple calls, emails, messages left with the office and a promise of a return call. I figured out how to fix it, not sure if it's how they would have done it but it's right.? Last week I got an email saying my support ticket has been closed, and a link to a survey. I gave them an earful?on the survey and have yet to hear back from anyone. Kind of disappointing.
Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Re: More info on shaper tooling for making doors
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I agree Brent¡¯s videos are excellent.
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On May 26, 2023, at 18:25, david.r.milson@... wrote:
?Hi Woodworkers
There was some recent activity about shapers and tooling which was really good, thank you.? There doesn't appear to be a lot of good info on using shapers and tooling.? One Canadian youtuber (Dovetail Timberworks) has put out some good content and he's just released a video on a particular set / series of Whiteside's tooling for making doors.
Cheers
D?
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Mark Foster
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Clint, great minds think alike. ?I also have a walk-behind stacker, and when I had a shop with 24-foot ceilings and a mezzanine level, I built a cherry-picker type basket that anchored to the stacker forks. ?My particular stacker will elevate to 15 feet. ?Since I worked alone, I added a remote control for the Up/Down circuit so I could climb into the basket and raise myself to working on lighting, etc. ?You can see the remote pendant (which came off my 2001 KF700 when it was sold) in the photo below. ?This is not for the faint of heart, and I did employ a safety sling when working above 8-feet, but it was a very productive way to get ¡°up there¡± to work on things.
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On May 24, 2023, at 3:05 PM, clinton.freer Freer <clinton.freer@...> wrote:
Hi guys
Just my two cents.? I am fortunate to have a very large shop with cathedral high ceilings and mezzanines for storage. During the planning stages I knew that I needed some lifting equipment to get the best use of the space.??
I bought a Toyota SWE120XR Walkie Reach Stacker. (Read walk behind forklift).? With this machine I can pick up sheet material from the floor and slip it onto my machines, unload trucks and move lifts of timber, and finished goods.
More to the point of this thread:? I have constructed a simple lift cage on a pallet that securely clamps to the forks. With the help of another operator, I am able to work on overhead ducting, wiring and lights.? Of you have room for a scissors lift, you have room for a small fork lift with much greater versatility and utility.
I also confirm the previous writers comments about battery maintenance.? If you look after the batteries they will last many years. Forget to check the water level and you are done.? No warranties on forgetfulness.
Warm regards Uncle Clint On Wed, 24 May 2023, 8:49 pm Skylar Reyburn, < eurosky49@...> wrote: I tell everyone that owns a scissor or an electric boom, the batteries are the single most important part of the machine. If you don¡¯t take care of them, you will run into many problems in the future. The contactor fails, then the motor to start. Scissor lifts are 24v DC with 4 6v deep cycle batteries. Check the date on them and always be wary of mismatched sets.?
Skylar
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Re: Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
Someone in my shop had a mishap with my SCM Sandya widebelt a couple months ago. He was sanding a bunch of short pieces, and one got hung up inside the machine and he wasn't aware. Later someone else went to use it, and was raising the conveyor height, and this piece was directly underneath the head. As a result, the head got out of alignment?with the bed.? I called SCM support, and got a call back within a couple of hours. I spoke directly to a tech, who asked for some further info which I provided. Then I never heard from him again, despite multiple calls, emails, messages left with the office and a promise of a return call. I figured out how to fix it, not sure if it's how they would have done it but it's right.? Last week I got an email saying my support ticket has been closed, and a link to a survey. I gave them an earful?on the survey and have yet to hear back from anyone. Kind of disappointing.
Jason Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765 -- Jason J. Holtz Furniture 3307 Snelling Ave. South Minneapolis, MN 55406
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Hey Uncle Clint. That is an ingenious idea. Some pics please??
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Re: Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
From my perspective, and specifically with regard to Felder, great service is a matter of the individual more than the culture of the company. ?Carl Knapp exemplifies good support, and seems to thrive in a company with a culture that doesn¡¯t particularly value good service or value customer satisfaction. ?When was the last time you got a survey from Felder asking how things went with your last sales or support encounter? ?In terms of a company whose culture is strongly biased toward good service, I would call out Apple as a great example. ?First Republic Bank (now part of JP Morgan) is another. ?In the woodworking arena, I would call out Lie Nielsen and Thos Moser as having customer-focused cultures.
David Best
DBestWorkshop@...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/collections/
https://www.youtube.com/@David_Best
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On May 26, 2023, at 12:23 PM, joelgelman via groups.io <joelgelman@...> wrote:
Well.... a recent thread mentioned the terrible support a Felder owner received when his machine came damaged, yet I and others have had excellent interactions with Carl from Felder. My comment on that thread was that it has a lot to do with the local rep.
Seems there is 2 kinds of customer service and support. ?One is what you get when you call the company and the other is when you call your local sales rep.
Ideally both would be good, but for me it is mostly about the local rep when applicable.
For national level, I have had great experiences (national level) with Omga and Accurate Technologies. ?Worst was Laguna.
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Hi Woodworkers
There was some recent activity about shapers and tooling which was really good, thank you.? There doesn't appear to be a lot of good info on using shapers and tooling.? One Canadian youtuber (Dovetail Timberworks) has put out some good content and he's just released a video on a particular set / series of Whiteside's tooling for making doors.
Cheers
D?
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Re: Workshops at the Center for Furniture Craftsmanship eg. with Garrett Hack
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Re: Workshops at the Center for Furniture Craftsmanship eg. with Garrett Hack
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Re: Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
I think Laguna has always been the leader in bad service.
D
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Re: Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
Well.... a recent thread mentioned the terrible support a Felder owner received when his machine came damaged, yet I and others have had excellent interactions with Carl from Felder. My comment on that thread was that it has a lot to do with the local rep.
Seems there is 2 kinds of customer service and support. ?One is what you get when you call the company and the other is when you call your local sales rep.
Ideally both would be good, but for me it is mostly about the local rep when applicable.
For national level, I have had great experiences (national level) with Omga and Accurate Technologies. ?Worst was Laguna.
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Re: Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
Joe, I have had the same experience as you have.? Carl has been great for Felder and SCM so far has been great also with Sam.? I called Felder a few times for support and they were good.? Shipping, not so good. For SCM, the call to support was great and they followed up.? SCM is launching an on-line system for owners to be able to order parts etc on June 1st.   ? PK
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Any machine manufacturers known for generally great service?
I¡¯m at a point in life where customer service/support is a priority. We all see horror stories here on terrible support. I personally have had great phone support from Carl my Felder rep. I¡¯ve also had shockingly good help from SCMI on a 1975 jointer. ?On the other hand a have a friend who has had horrible support k. Canada from both SCMI and Martin. Thoughts?
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I use them on drawers and doors, and let me know what you find. I think I got my last batch from Hafele and they have worked well on the doors, but for some reason they keep sliding around and falling off on drawers.
Brian Lamb
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www.lambtoolworks.com
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On May 26, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Joe Jensen <joe@...> wrote:
I am building a kitchen for my daughter. ?Shaker painters doors. ?I will use silicone bumpers on the doors. Assume I should for the drawer fronts too? ?Does anyone have any favorites that don¡¯t fall off in a couple of years?
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On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 04:58 PM, Shinta Wakahisa wrote:
Hello everyone,
I just about finish a shop addition and will have a 13.5-foot ceiling.? Climbing up and down ladders gets old real quick not to mention it is a bit scary working on such a tall ladder, so looking into a slab scissor lift.? 2632, 26-ft rise, 32-inch platform width seems ideal.? The 1932 isn't much cheaper.? Genie, Skyjack, JLG, etc.? Old vs new?? Anyone has gone through this and has some sage advice to impart?? I would love to hear.? Thought about rent, but would rather have one on hand for future use.??
Thanks!
SW
?You're looking at the wrong size the 2632 is giant, 1.it's way to big for maneuvering inside a shop 2.even when collapsed it's still tall, and climbing up and down will be tiring 3.wieghs 5000lbs so transportation can be difficult? Look for 19ft lift, it'll be much better for your use especially when your cieling is 13.5ft. Keep in mind 26ft lift gives you 30ft working height with you on it and 19ft will give you 24ft working height I owned before a few genie and skyjack 19ft and 26ft, now for shop maintenance I have small 12ft scissor lift that is perfect for my 15' cieling I'd go with used over new, these are pretty simple machines and they have good phone technical support. Usually the machines that the big company's liquidating to auctions look like shit but in a fair mechanical condition because they have inspections every 3 months
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3M bumpers tend to last the longest.
If you want a more permanent solution you¡¯ll need bumpers with a tenon that mount in a 3 or 5 mm hole. They are more expensive and time consuming to install though.
D
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I am building a kitchen for my daughter. ?Shaker painters doors. ?I will use silicone bumpers on the doors. Assume I should for the drawer fronts too? ?Does anyone have any favorites that don¡¯t fall off in a couple of years?
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Mark Foster
David P. Best
Jason Holtz
PK
Joe Jensen