Mark,
I expected that as the gradations are so far away. If you can make joints with no gaps then it is good enough for me. Perhaps operator error then.
Imran
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote: ? Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡ On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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Imran,
Are you referring to this lever, picture attached?
Second pic is the knob I was pulling down on.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:14 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Wade,
You need to loosen the kip lever at the end of the extrusion that has the angle gradations.
Imran
On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote:
? Imran,
So did you use your large cross cut fence to make these miters for the frame? ?I¡¯m still not sure why my large cross cut fence will not slide down away from the blade when I pivot for a miter set up. ?I pulled down on the small black knob under the fence, which is what the tech guy said to do, but it won¡¯t move. ?Not sure if there another step I¡¯m not doing.
Thx,
Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡ On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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Wade,
You need to loosen the kip lever at the end of the extrusion that has the angle gradations.
Imran
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:10 AM, Wade Dees <wjdsignature@...> wrote: ? Imran,
So did you use your large cross cut fence to make these miters for the frame? ?I¡¯m still not sure why my large cross cut fence will not slide down away from the blade when I pivot for a miter set up. ?I pulled down on the small black knob under the fence, which is what the tech guy said to do, but it won¡¯t move. ?Not sure if there another step I¡¯m not doing.
Thx,
Wade On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡ On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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Imran,
So did you use your large cross cut fence to make these miters for the frame? ?I¡¯m still not sure why my large cross cut fence will not slide down away from the blade when I pivot for a miter set up. ?I pulled down on the small black knob under the fence, which is what the tech guy said to do, but it won¡¯t move. ?Not sure if there another step I¡¯m not doing.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 7:04 AM, Mark Kessler <mkessler10@...> wrote:
? Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡ On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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Yes I do, Pretty much dead nuts every time. Can¡¯t remember what amount it can be off but its very minimal, for those that like extreme precision it¡¯s not good enough - i¡¯m a hack so it works for me¡
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On Feb 12, 2022, at 9:50 AM, imranindiana <imranindiana@...> wrote:
? Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring blade fit question
I?was also puzzled by the metal part that made it impossible to install the scoring blade on my K3. Besides that wonky metal piece, there was a bolt that intruded into the scoring blade space. I removed both. I put those two pieces into a plastic bag with all of the other miscellanea that I removed in the course of setting up my saw, such as the bolts used to secure the saw and other saw pieces to the pallet.
JH On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 6:10 AM Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. via <rohrabacher= [email protected]> wrote:
take it off and throw it away.? It is some after-thought garbage
that some idiot with a problem about safety decided just had to be
there to ensure that you don't hurt yourself by using the? wrong
size blade.
On 2/12/22 1:27 AM, SirRey wrote:
Hey.
Went to put on my scoring bade for first time and there is a metal
piece in the dust shoot under the blade that¡¯s in the way. I¡¯m not
even sure what the piece is for or how to install the scoring
blade without hitting it. There is one bolt holding it on.?
-- John Huelsenbeck Department of Integrative Biology University of California, Berkeley Berkeley, CA 94720
(510) 502-5887
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Does using the 45 deg marking for the long xcut fence work for you to make perfect 45s, let¡¯s say for a simple frame?
I used my precision 45 deg square for making this frame but it is only 6¡± on the long side. Frame?is fine but not to my standard. Maybe, I should not have sold the frame square saw.
I found 2 options, if a setup square is recommended but there is no accuracy provided.
I know someone is going to suggest miter saw but not everything fits my miter saw.
Imran
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring blade fit question
take it off and throw it away.? It is some after-thought garbage
that some idiot with a problem about safety decided just had to be
there to ensure that you don't hurt yourself by using the? wrong
size blade.
On 2/12/22 1:27 AM, SirRey wrote:
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Hey.
Went to put on my scoring bade for first time and there is a metal
piece in the dust shoot under the blade that¡¯s in the way. I¡¯m not
even sure what the piece is for or how to install the scoring
blade without hitting it. There is one bolt holding it on.?
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring blade fit question
It's exactly what Bill said.? That "guard" is there so you don't try to use a 300mm blade at the same time as your scoring blade.
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Re: Everyday Glue Recommendation
Anthony,
In many cases, TB3 subjected to high temp failures is replaced by going back to TB2. The rise of urethane adhesives, epoxies, and 2 part mixes fills the application gap that TB3 can't fulfill otherwise.
On Fri, Feb 11, 2022, 7:45 PM Anthony Quesada < tonymiga2@...> wrote: Brett,?
Thanks for the info on TBIII.? That would be a very hard lesson to learn.? Any sense where these shops have turned since the delimitation with TBIII? ?
TBII for most projects. ?
I use West Systems epoxy regularly as well. ?
CA glue has recently been getting a lot of play, particularly in combo with TBII for hard or awkward to clamp parts. ? ?
Anthony?
Heads up TBIII is known to lose adhesion at higher temps post-drying, and many a door shop has found?out the hard way that "exterior rated" that made TB3 so attractive was not so once full sun hit the doors repeatedly and delaminated and opened joints where TB2 had previously held after a couple of years. There are other answers to the TB3 problem, but don't re-learn from those mistakes. For everyday glue I use Titebond 50
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Re: Hammer K3 scoring blade fit question
Pivot it towards the main blade. This will require you to use a 250mm or smaller main blade. While I'm not sure, I think the purpose is to limit the size of the blade you use with the scoring blade.
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-- Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with a Hammer
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Hammer K3 scoring blade fit question
Hey. Went to put on my scoring bade for first time and there is a metal piece in the dust shoot under the blade that¡¯s in the way. I¡¯m not even sure what the piece is for or how to install the scoring blade without hitting it. There is one bolt holding it on.?
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Was the world different when we grew up? My brother and I were doing small engine repairs and brake jobs when we were 14. I rented a plane in Detroit and flew it to California and back by myself when I was 17. I think we all had POS rusty Wildcats and GTO's by the time we were 17 too. And all manner of guns, skis, scuba gear, girlfriends. (Clearly I need a time machine)
Anyway¡ get a copy of the beautifully illustrated ¡°Hand Tools, their ways and workings¡± by Aldren Watson. If your kids pick up half of the information they will know more than 99.99% of people about more than just tools. From that I would work up to the machines via power tool safety lessons. I would let my daughters use the slider with lessons, but never the cabinet saw when I had one.?
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
Sent the video to Tech, they have started a service ticket for me on the issue. ?He is going to have a couple of other techs view the video to see what needs to be done.
Thx,
Wade
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On Feb 11, 2022, at 9:55 AM, david@... via groups.io <david@...> wrote:
? Looking at and listening to the video you posted yesterday, something is clearly wrong with the rip fence housing support that rides on the surface of the machine. ?Sounds like a wheel has a flat on it, or it¡¯s out of round, or not aligned properly. ? Get Felder to watch that video and give you some help. ?Or you can flip over your rip fence housing, take some detailed close-in photos and post them here for comment.
David Best
https://www.instagram.com/davidpbest/
That¡¯s the only thing I can see or the small axel shaft has a bend in it. ? ? Wade,
If you still get that thud more than once, maybe the nylon support wheel is not round ???
James Hi Jay,
Yeah it¡¯s really bad when I slide it across.? Very disappointing for what these things cost.? I keep looking at the construction of the underside with the support wheel and I don¡¯t see how this could be fixed. Even after I completely reinstall my support bar today and adjust my toe out.? I¡¯ll ask Felder Tech about it as well. ?
Thx,
Wade ?Repositioning the rip fence is my only disappointment with the K700S. In my case I hear one thud with movement when I transition between the cast top and steel support which are co-planer but the top has a rolled edge which creates a slight gap the wheel rides over. In your video I hear the same thud 5x you definitely should be able to get rid of that.
Jay
Cleveland
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So great to hear all of these different experiences and ideas. My dad was always welcoming in his shop and the time we spent together working on school or personal projects was some of my favorite childhood memories. I hope I don¡¯t muck it up with my daughter when the time comes.
Anthony
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On Feb 11, 2022, at 6:56 PM, Philip Davidson <pgdiv4@...> wrote:
I have a thirty something son who spend time in the shop from an early age starting with planning projects and then I would help. He had one accident with a carving knife but never on scroll saw or bandsaw. Each child is different and this has to be taken into account. I treated children and adolescents for years and can say one¡¯s ability to concentrate and use impulse control is critical to how much you allow them to do. At the beach the kid who goes in without caution versus the kid who watches the waves and goes in cautiously are very different in the shop as well. Supervision until you know they understand the risks and have the level of concentration is important. I would say they also have to have enough insight to know when they are tired or frustrated.
It was interesting for me to be in another luthiers shop with people standing around talking and I cut the wrong scale for a guitar on my fretboard with a two sided template the other day. Came back the next day when it was quiet. I typically work in silence without music. Others do better with music.
There was a great study back in the 70¡¯s where they were testing concentration in kids. The think that worked the best was when they played Strawberry Fields Forever. Not sure I believed it but loved that they tried that song.
Philip Davidson
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Philip
davidsonukuleles.com
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Re: Everyday Glue Recommendation
Brett,?
Thanks for the info on TBIII. ?That would be a very hard lesson to learn. ?Any sense where these shops have turned since the delimitation with TBIII? ?
TBII for most projects. ?
I use West Systems epoxy regularly as well. ?
CA glue has recently been getting a lot of play, particularly in combo with TBII for hard or awkward to clamp parts. ? ?
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Heads up TBIII is known to lose adhesion at higher temps post-drying, and many a door shop has found?out the hard way that "exterior rated" that made TB3 so attractive was not so once full sun hit the doors repeatedly and delaminated and opened joints where TB2 had previously held after a couple of years. There are other answers to the TB3 problem, but don't re-learn from those mistakes. For everyday glue I use Titebond 50
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Re: K 700 S, Did Felder cheap out on the rip fence?
No Glue stick or filling the gap between the Cast and the Steel extension on my K3. At first the wheel that was on there had a good sized bubble in it making it terrible to roll and Felder sent a replacement. The new wheel made it a bit better but there was still the bump between the Cast and steel so I made up that Nylon type material that's big enough to go over the gap without feeling much of anything when moving the Fence. Hopefully? I  can get the picture to load? ?
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On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 08:31 PM, Mark Kessler wrote:
Isn¡¯t the top too slick in the UHMW, what would be the advantage of using it? And don¡¯t follow why the round allows for more use than the square, is it because you can turn it if you set the head off center to expose an un-drilled spot?
Regards, Mark
Mark, the UHMW is a great surface. It is not slick. Not that a drill press table gets much, if any, abuse, but UHMW absorbs wear very well. It is a little more effort to machine, but comes up well. The UHMW slab was cheap from a local salvage yard. Regarding the round waste insert: With a square waste insert, drilled off-centre, you have 4 positions, while a round insert has infinite positions. I prefer to lock the head in a central position, which enables changing up of drill bit size for the same hole. Regards from Perth Derek
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I have a thirty something son who spend time in the shop from an early age starting with planning projects and then I would help. He had one accident with a carving knife but never on scroll saw or bandsaw. Each child is different and this has to be taken into account. I treated children and adolescents for years and can say one¡¯s ability to concentrate and use impulse control is critical to how much you allow them to do. At the beach the kid who goes in without caution versus the kid who watches the waves and goes in cautiously are very different in the shop as well. Supervision until you know they understand the risks and have the level of concentration is important. I would say they also have to have enough insight to know when they are tired or frustrated.
It was interesting for me to be in another luthiers shop with people standing around talking and I cut the wrong scale for a guitar on my fretboard with a two sided template the other day. Came back the next day when it was quiet. I typically work in silence without music. Others do better with music.
There was a great study back in the 70¡¯s where they were testing concentration in kids. The think that worked the best was when they played Strawberry Fields Forever. Not sure I believed it but loved that they tried that song.
Philip Davidson
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Philip
davidsonukuleles.com
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I plan to use a skid-steer with tracks. It may be hard on the grass, but should not rut the sod.
The skid-steer units can be equipped with forks, but for some of the devices the forks are limited in length. Instead of 48¡± forks I might be limited to 42¡± forks.
The skid-steer will have plenty of capacity for the weight. I have a 15-degree slope to negotiate, but that should be OK.
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John Hinman
Boise ID
Not a Felder Owner yet - expecting K700S in February and A941 in April 2022
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