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Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

 

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Great solution – interested to know if it works.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Randy Child via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 6:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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I have been watching this thread very closely since it was started and all the ideas have been awesome, but the one with the laser mounted on the magnetic base on the blade cover housing really gave me an idea.

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I have one of those laser adapters that you attach to the bottom of your laser for fine tuning the line out on a jobsite and thought, hmm.. magnetic base... laser adapter? "Emoji" it just might work... I removed the base off the adapter and screwed the magnetic base onto the underside and can attach the laser to the threaded stud on the adapter.? What's nice is you can seriously fine tune the laser line to shine exactly where you need it for the adjustments on the adapter allow for precise movement in every direction.? I can take more pictures and post after I get it all hooked up and plugged in.

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Here is the adapter and the base magnetic which are both on amazon?

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Fingers crossed that it will work perfectly..

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On Saturday, December 12, 2020, 04:49:43 PM PST, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Chris,

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Thanks for the update.

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Imran


On Dec 12, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Happy holidays - I finally received my Chinese made laser from eBay.? I mounted it on a magnet and hung it on my overhead arm.? At 8 feet, the line is significantly dimmer although I can still see it which is probably good enough for aligning the tail end of a board. ?I have a bright 3 car garage with 11 LED light panels.? The laser mount is difficult to adjust. I found it easier to lock the mount and just rotate the magnet. ???

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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Chris,

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would you please share your experience with the green laser. i would like to know if you can see it easily in well lit shop.

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imran


On Nov 22, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Thanks – I’m going to give it spin… worse case its $50 on a proof of concept.

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Regards,

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Lamb
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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In the ad it says1-2mm wide at 1m, and 2-3mm wide at 3m. So I’m guessing about 2mm, and given your blade is about 3mm, that should be fine enough.


Brian Lamb
blamb11@...



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On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.?

Thanks,

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951



On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:55 AM, ahazi <ariel.hazi@...> wrote:

?No need to do much hacking:

It includes power supply and a mount.

Ariel

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Re: any one know this roofing?

 

Looked like a gingerbread house with chocolate frosting.
UK preppers...

Bill Bélanger


On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 4:33 PM Jason Holtz <jholtzy@...> wrote:
That is just piles and piles of cash.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

 

I have been watching this thread very closely since it was started and all the ideas have been awesome, but the one with the laser mounted on the magnetic base on the blade cover housing really gave me an idea.

I have one of those laser adapters that you attach to the bottom of your laser for fine tuning the line out on a jobsite and thought, hmm.. magnetic base... laser adapter? "Emoji" it just might work... I removed the base off the adapter and screwed the magnetic base onto the underside and can attach the laser to the threaded stud on the adapter.? What's nice is you can seriously fine tune the laser line to shine exactly where you need it for the adjustments on the adapter allow for precise movement in every direction.? I can take more pictures and post after I get it all hooked up and plugged in.

Here is the adapter and the base magnetic which are both on amazon?

Fingers crossed that it will work perfectly..









On Saturday, December 12, 2020, 04:49:43 PM PST, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:


Chris,

Thanks for the update.

Imran

On Dec 12, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Happy holidays - I finally received my Chinese made laser from eBay.? I mounted it on a magnet and hung it on my overhead arm.? At 8 feet, the line is significantly dimmer although I can still see it which is probably good enough for aligning the tail end of a board. ?I have a bright 3 car garage with 11 LED light panels.? The laser mount is difficult to adjust. I found it easier to lock the mount and just rotate the magnet. ???

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Chris Perren

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of imranindiana via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 1:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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Chris,

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would you please share your experience with the green laser. i would like to know if you can see it easily in well lit shop.

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imran


On Nov 22, 2020, at 7:59 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Thanks – I’m going to give it spin… worse case its $50 on a proof of concept.

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Regards,

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Lamb
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Laser Kerf Line for slider saw?

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In the ad it says1-2mm wide at 1m, and 2-3mm wide at 3m. So I’m guessing about 2mm, and given your blade is about 3mm, that should be fine enough.


Brian Lamb
blamb11@...




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On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:17 PM, Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

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Will this laser produce a crisp line if mounted from a 10 ft ceiling? ? A difference of 6 feet from the saw.?

Thanks,

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951




On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:55 AM, ahazi <ariel.hazi@...> wrote:

?No need to do much hacking:

It includes power supply and a mount.

Ariel

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Re: any one know this roofing?

 

That is just piles and piles of cash.

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406
612.432.2765

--
Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406


Re: any one know this roofing?

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

On 12/14/20 3:39 PM, jontathan samways wrote:
stone frames with lead sashes...

I did not pick that up at first. ? Lead.? Must be old.


Re: any one know this roofing?

 

Cliff, I was born and raised in Norfolk UK (emigrated because of the 690 days of rain per year) and yes there are some beautiful thatched rooves there (rooves being the traditional spelling but now commonly spelt roofs).....did you notice the windows in your attached photo? they were stone frames with lead sashes...



Jonathan



On Mon, 14 Dec 2020, 21:06 Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq., <rohrabacher@...> wrote:

I was unaware that thatch? was still a thing.? I looked up imaged of thatched roofs for Norfolk UK and???? yep? that's what it is.

So I did some surfing and reading?? I'm impresses 20 - 30 years life span and 7 for the ridge?? Wow.? In the UK where it rains about 690 days a year?

They are more than a foot thick??? I'm thinking Fire.

Interesting?

Thanks for that


On 12/14/20 2:40 PM, Bean via wrote:
It will be thatch, which is done with reeds. Norfolk in the UK used to be reputed as the best thatch available in the UK. Put on by a "Thatcher" which is a dying art but still pretty strong in the UK. Thatchers would usually leave their trademark on any job they done which in a lot of cases would be a small bird or animal made out of thatch and left somewhere on the roof.

Mark.


Re: any one know this roofing?

 

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Here's another example from near near me in Sussex. It's a restaurant called the Ginger Fox. Hence the additions to the roof thatch.






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From: "Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq." <rohrabacher@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, 14 Dec, 20 At 20:06
Subject: Re: [FOG] any one know this roofing?

I was unaware that thatch was still a thing. I looked up imaged of thatched roofs for Norfolk UK and yep that's what it is.

So I did some surfing and reading I'm impresses 20 - 30 years life span and 7 for the ridge? Wow. In the UK where it rains about 690 days a year?

They are more than a foot thick? I'm thinking Fire.

Interesting

Thanks for that


On 12/14/20 2:40 PM, Bean via groups.io wrote:
It will be thatch, which is done with reeds. Norfolk in the UK used to be reputed as the best thatch available in the UK. Put on by a "Thatcher" which is a dying art but still pretty strong in the UK. Thatchers would usually leave their trademark on any job they done which in a lot of cases would be a small bird or animal made out of thatch and left somewhere on the roof.

Mark.


Re: any one know this roofing?

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

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I was unaware that thatch? was still a thing.? I looked up imaged of thatched roofs for Norfolk UK and???? yep? that's what it is.

So I did some surfing and reading?? I'm impresses 20 - 30 years life span and 7 for the ridge?? Wow.? In the UK where it rains about 690 days a year?

They are more than a foot thick??? I'm thinking Fire.

Interesting?

Thanks for that


On 12/14/20 2:40 PM, Bean via groups.io wrote:

It will be thatch, which is done with reeds. Norfolk in the UK used to be reputed as the best thatch available in the UK. Put on by a "Thatcher" which is a dying art but still pretty strong in the UK. Thatchers would usually leave their trademark on any job they done which in a lot of cases would be a small bird or animal made out of thatch and left somewhere on the roof.

Mark.


Re: Broken Tap

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

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one more thing

When hand tapping? using a cutting tap or die ( as opposed to a forming tap or die) Drive the tap in? about half a turn ( or so)? and then back it out? a half turn (or so).? You will figure this out? the forst time you do it.? What is happening is? you need to "Break the Chip" that was forming as the tap or die cut into the material.?

Backing it off like that? will? do a few things (1)? Replenish the lube at the cutting? edges, (2) snap that off and make things progress easier, (3)? it makes it way more possible? to extract a broken tap and? (4) way less likely? that you will snap a tap.?


On 12/13/20 7:55 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote:

is anyone familiar with accusize industrial tools? it is a canadian co out of toronto. i recently purchased two tap & drill sets metric and SAE. i went with them because they offered HSS at reasonable price.


i used the 1/2-13 tap first time today and it broke mid way in 1/2” CR1018 steel bar. yes, i did drill 27/64” hole with the drill that came with the tap. just curious, folks with metal knowhow, can you tell if this break shows a manufacturing defect?



i am sure they will send me a replacement tap but i am just wondering if i should return the set or both sets because i am not sure of the quality any more.

Imran


Re: Broken Tap

 

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I try to stay larger than 1/4" when hand tapping and use a Procunier or tapmatic whenever possible.? Hand tapping is turn about 1/4-1/2 turn and back off.? If you are tapping #4-40, buy a million taps and be ready to be frustrated.? I have a lot of English machines and my Whitworth sets have three taps per size.? Start with the undersized one and move up as needed.? Downside is they are made in India and I've never found much in precision in tooling from there.? Dave


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Chris Perren <cperren@...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:39 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FOG] Broken Tap
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I learned a lot too. ?Thanks for sharing. ?I ordered a guide as suggested. ?

Thanks,

Chris Perren

On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:08 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Thanks Alex for the tips. I would like to share that Accusize was very accommodating. Spoke with a live body and a replacement tap is on the way. I have learned a lot from this thread in technique and methods and hope to do better in future taping endeavors ?

Imran

On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Alex Bowlds <aabj@...> wrote:

?Hi Imran,

I don’t see any clear indication of defect. ?I assume you are using a cutting fluid and hand operating the tap. ?I.E., the tap is not mounted in a hand drill, or drill press. Like you, I have broken plenty of taps of varying quality over the years. ?It is quite easy to break a tap when operating by hand. ?Minor misalignment will allow the tap to bind more as it cuts through the the metal. ?To minimize risk of breakage, one needs to back it out frequently to clear the chips, and then move forward again with plenty of lubrication. ?I’m sure you already know all these tips, but I mention them just in case.

If I use a tap mounted in a hand held drill, I set the clutch and reverse it when the clutch activates to clear the chips, then forward again. ?I’ve had poor luck when using taps mounted in the drill press.

Good luck,

Alex



On Dec 13, 2020, at 4:56 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?is anyone familiar with accusize industrial tools? it is a canadian co out of toronto. i recently purchased two tap & drill sets metric and SAE. i went with them because they offered HSS at reasonable price.


i used the 1/2-13 tap first time today and it broke mid way in 1/2” CR1018 steel bar. yes, i did drill 27/64” hole with the drill that came with the tap. just curious, folks with metal knowhow, can you tell if this break shows a manufacturing defect?

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i am sure they will send me a replacement tap but i am just wondering if i should return the set or both sets because i am not sure of the quality any more.

Imran


Re: any one know this roofing?

Bean
 

It will be thatch, which is done with reeds. Norfolk in the UK used to be reputed as the best thatch available in the UK. Put on by a "Thatcher" which is a dying art but still pretty strong in the UK. Thatchers would usually leave their trademark on any job they done which in a lot of cases would be a small bird or animal made out of thatch and left somewhere on the roof.

Mark.


Re: Broken Tap

 

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I learned a lot too. ?Thanks for sharing. ?I ordered a guide as suggested. ?

Thanks,

Chris Perren

On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:08 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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Thanks Alex for the tips. I would like to share that Accusize was very accommodating. Spoke with a live body and a replacement tap is on the way. I have learned a lot from this thread in technique and methods and hope to do better in future taping endeavors ?

Imran

On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Alex Bowlds <aabj@...> wrote:

?Hi Imran,

I don’t see any clear indication of defect. ?I assume you are using a cutting fluid and hand operating the tap. ?I.E., the tap is not mounted in a hand drill, or drill press. Like you, I have broken plenty of taps of varying quality over the years. ?It is quite easy to break a tap when operating by hand. ?Minor misalignment will allow the tap to bind more as it cuts through the the metal. ?To minimize risk of breakage, one needs to back it out frequently to clear the chips, and then move forward again with plenty of lubrication. ?I’m sure you already know all these tips, but I mention them just in case.

If I use a tap mounted in a hand held drill, I set the clutch and reverse it when the clutch activates to clear the chips, then forward again. ?I’ve had poor luck when using taps mounted in the drill press.

Good luck,

Alex



On Dec 13, 2020, at 4:56 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?is anyone familiar with accusize industrial tools? it is a canadian co out of toronto. i recently purchased two tap & drill sets metric and SAE. i went with them because they offered HSS at reasonable price.


i used the 1/2-13 tap first time today and it broke mid way in 1/2” CR1018 steel bar. yes, i did drill 27/64” hole with the drill that came with the tap. just curious, folks with metal knowhow, can you tell if this break shows a manufacturing defect?

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i am sure they will send me a replacement tap but i am just wondering if i should return the set or both sets because i am not sure of the quality any more.

Imran


Re: any one know this roofing?

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

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Up close it looks like corduroy I don't see thatching

Here is a link to the original



On 12/14/20 2:34 PM, Michael Marsico wrote:

Looks like a thatched roof

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:32:19 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] any one know this roofing?
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What is the roofing material in this presumably? English ( rather baroque)? cottage







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Re: any one know this roofing?

 

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Looks like a thatched roof

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:32:19 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [FOG] any one know this roofing?
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What is the roofing material in this presumably? English ( rather baroque)? cottage







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any one know this roofing?

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

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What is the roofing material in this presumably? English ( rather baroque)? cottage







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Re: Broken Tap

 

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Thanks Alex for the tips. I would like to share that Accusize was very accommodating. Spoke with a live body and a replacement tap is on the way. I have learned a lot from this thread in technique and methods and hope to do better in future taping endeavors ?

Imran

On Dec 14, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Alex Bowlds <aabj@...> wrote:

?Hi Imran,

I don’t see any clear indication of defect. ?I assume you are using a cutting fluid and hand operating the tap. ?I.E., the tap is not mounted in a hand drill, or drill press. Like you, I have broken plenty of taps of varying quality over the years. ?It is quite easy to break a tap when operating by hand. ?Minor misalignment will allow the tap to bind more as it cuts through the the metal. ?To minimize risk of breakage, one needs to back it out frequently to clear the chips, and then move forward again with plenty of lubrication. ?I’m sure you already know all these tips, but I mention them just in case.

If I use a tap mounted in a hand held drill, I set the clutch and reverse it when the clutch activates to clear the chips, then forward again. ?I’ve had poor luck when using taps mounted in the drill press.

Good luck,

Alex



On Dec 13, 2020, at 4:56 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?is anyone familiar with accusize industrial tools? it is a canadian co out of toronto. i recently purchased two tap & drill sets metric and SAE. i went with them because they offered HSS at reasonable price.


i used the 1/2-13 tap first time today and it broke mid way in 1/2” CR1018 steel bar. yes, i did drill 27/64” hole with the drill that came with the tap. just curious, folks with metal knowhow, can you tell if this break shows a manufacturing defect?

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i am sure they will send me a replacement tap but i am just wondering if i should return the set or both sets because i am not sure of the quality any more.

Imran


Re: Broken Tap

 

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Hi Imran,

I don’t see any clear indication of defect. ?I assume you are using a cutting fluid and hand operating the tap. ?I.E., the tap is not mounted in a hand drill, or drill press. Like you, I have broken plenty of taps of varying quality over the years. ?It is quite easy to break a tap when operating by hand. ?Minor misalignment will allow the tap to bind more as it cuts through the the metal. ?To minimize risk of breakage, one needs to back it out frequently to clear the chips, and then move forward again with plenty of lubrication. ?I’m sure you already know all these tips, but I mention them just in case.

If I use a tap mounted in a hand held drill, I set the clutch and reverse it when the clutch activates to clear the chips, then forward again. ?I’ve had poor luck when using taps mounted in the drill press.

Good luck,

Alex



On Dec 13, 2020, at 4:56 PM, imranindiana via groups.io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

?is anyone familiar with accusize industrial tools? it is a canadian co out of toronto. i recently purchased two tap & drill sets metric and SAE. i went with them because they offered HSS at reasonable price.


i used the 1/2-13 tap first time today and it broke mid way in 1/2” CR1018 steel bar. yes, i did drill 27/64” hole with the drill that came with the tap. just curious, folks with metal knowhow, can you tell if this break shows a manufacturing defect?

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<image1.jpeg>
<image2.jpeg>


i am sure they will send me a replacement tap but i am just wondering if i should return the set or both sets because i am not sure of the quality any more.

Imran


Re: a question about group list-serv emails

 

This is what it looks like for me Cliff.

Bill Bélanger


On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:24 AM Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq. <rohrabacher@...> wrote:
?? When I communicate? the list-serv identifies me as
"[email protected]"? removing my email from the? header.

It seems? not to be happening to any one else.

Am I the only person getting this or is it simply? that it's how it
appears when the emails are sent? back to the sender?







a question about group list-serv emails

Cliff Rohrabacher, Esq.
 

When I communicate? the list-serv identifies me as
"[email protected]"? removing my email from the? header.

It seems? not to be happening to any one else.

Am I the only person getting this or is it simply? that it's how it
appears when the emails are sent? back to the sender?


Re: Sliding Table Saw Felder K700 S - Minnesota

 

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I sold my 2000 CF731p with all accessories including big squeeze clamps for $4000.

It was in excellent condition. ?

I think $3 to $4k for that machine is high. ?It would not be worth it to have to fix things are find accessories on a machine that old. ?A newer x-roll machine would be a better value.

Joe

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On Dec 14, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Brian Lamb <blamb11@...> wrote:

Pretty sure that was just a saw, not a saw/shaper. In that vintage with obvious signs of tons of use/abuse, I’d say more like $3000-$4000. Look around on Craig’s List, Offerup and Facebook Marketplace, locally I have a lot to choose from:

for $10,500 asking

for $7500

for $3600

and there was an Altendorf F45, but it looks like it must have sold, think it was under $7k, might have been $5k.

Brian Lamb
blamb11@...





On Dec 14, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:

Don't these usually list for close to $15k new? Even though this certainly isnt "mint condition" it might be a good deal.?

Does anyone know what the going price is from Felder?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 8:27 AM Chris Perren <cperren@...> wrote:

I thought the same…? laughable.

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Chris

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill James via
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 9:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Sliding Table Saw Felder K700 S - Minnesota

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"Mint condition, very nice"

I need to change the headline when I sold something online, like "better condition than new" :)

This looks like a crappy condition at a very high price to me.

Bill