Re: One dust collector to rule them all?
David,
I will check them out. Thanks.
Joe
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Re: How to achieve this surface finish?
Festool planer with undulating blade gives a hand hewn look.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 9:35 AM Richard < rirving@...> wrote: You also might consider contacting the architect directly. In the past when I've found an architectural or design detail that intrigues me, I've done some detective work to find the architect to learn more about the detail then tracked down whoever worked on the project to get more info. In my experience architects and their tradespeople love to talk about their work, though sometimes it takes a while to work through the network of architects, GC, and subs.?I have yet to be denied access to a detail that I'm interested in, but they haven't always been able to track down who executed it to provide the necessary detail for me to do it myself.
Not sure if this is the place you took pictures from, but here is what I was able to turn up when I searched for "architect portland japanese garden" on google.?
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Re: I have k500s for sale n Phila for 7000
Do you also have a felder bandsaw for sale? I think I saw an ad containing this equipment along with that. If so how much are you asking for the bandsaw.
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Re: Need advice re door construction
Not for better homes and gardens? Here are I pictures of one of my shop doors nothing fancy but solid.? Double steel doors with an applied astragal with salable seal the edge is warped with Angle door is pinned top and bottom with simple pull chain.? Quite old by Philips screws haven¡¯t used those for many a moon      Designing and building for 50 years
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On Dec 8, 2022, at 11:01 AM, Larry <larry@...> wrote:
?Nice looking doors!
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I have k500s for sale n Phila for 7000
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I am in Philadelphia the machine was recommission two years ago by Felder after some back-and-forth I¡¯m looking for 13,000 but make an offer
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On Dec 8, 2022, at 11:44 AM, Brian Turner <bjamesturner@...> wrote:
? How much?
Where are you located? I have a Felder 950 Classic for sale Sander 37 inch wide  
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Re: Need advice re door construction
Weather sealing that astragal I can see being a challenge. We've tried to fix other's design problems all sorts of ways, felt, brush/whiskers, rubber bulb, garage door seals running verticals, they all feel like some sort of compromise. This might be your best option given the size of the doors and the forces involved with closing tight.
They aren't pretty, they aren't cheap, but they work:
Doors that big I'd consider a sliding mechanism (like barn-door or airplane-hangar style) rather than swinging if you have the space to allow. I could see swinging?big doors like that in the wind could?be a? substantial safety hazard, might justify the powered openers for that reason alone. At some point maybe the size starts to make regular overhead-track garage doors look competitive, but definitely not as fun or unique to build/install!
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 11:01 AM Larry < larry@...> wrote: Nice looking doors!
-- Brett Wissel Saint Louis Restoration 1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd) St Louis, MO 63110 314.772.2167 brett@...
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Oh, if you have not selected an opener yet, I am very happy with Franklin Autoswing. I would highly recommend an opener on this size door, unless it is protected from the wind.
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On Dec 8, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Imran Malik <imranindiana@...> wrote: ? I had to tackle this issue on few doors now from 4¡± to 2.25¡± thick. All advice is good. If you go the ¡°profile the edge¡± route you can keep the gap small. If you go with square edges then the gap will be bigger. The gap can be easily calculated by geometry but hinges are part of this calculation. For example, I used strap hinges so the point the door rotate around is couple of inches past the door edge on the jamb.
My calculation worked well on this 3.5¡± thick contraption. It is complete now but don¡¯t have a pic handy. 
On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:59 AM, Bird Cupps <birdc@...> wrote:
? I could use some advice from this group of builders with a lot more experience than me. I¡¯m building a set of carriage-style shop doors that meet in the middle, French-door style. They are big, 5 1/2¡¯ x 8¡¯, and I¡¯ve built them torsion box style out of engineered 2x4 because I wanted plenty of insulation.
Here¡¯s where I¡¯m stuck. Since the doors are so thick (4 7/8¡¯¡¯) I¡¯m concerned that they will hit each other as they meet, and I don¡¯t know how to figure out an appropriate gap between them to avoid this. The torsion box door slab will be wrapped with cedar so I have that material to use to adjust.
Suggestions?
Bird in Wisconsin
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Re: Need advice re door construction
I had to tackle this issue on few doors now from 4¡± to 2.25¡± thick. All advice is good. If you go the ¡°profile the edge¡± route you can keep the gap small. If you go with square edges then the gap will be bigger. The gap can be easily calculated by geometry but hinges are part of this calculation. For example, I used strap hinges so the point the door rotate around is couple of inches past the door edge on the jamb.
My calculation worked well on this 3.5¡± thick contraption. It is complete now but don¡¯t have a pic handy.
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On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:59 AM, Bird Cupps <birdc@...> wrote: ? I could use some advice from this group of builders with a lot more experience than me. I¡¯m building a set of carriage-style shop doors that meet in the middle, French-door style. They are big, 5 1/2¡¯ x 8¡¯, and I¡¯ve built them torsion box style out of engineered 2x4 because I wanted plenty of insulation.
Here¡¯s where I¡¯m stuck. Since the doors are so thick (4 7/8¡¯¡¯) I¡¯m concerned that they will hit each other as they meet, and I don¡¯t know how to figure out an appropriate gap between them to avoid this. The torsion box door slab will be wrapped with cedar so I have that material to use to adjust.
Suggestions?
Bird in Wisconsin
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Re: One dust collector to rule them all?
Jay, ? You may want to check out
Dave Davies
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 10:32 AM < jbowen@...> wrote:
I am in the middle of consolidating collectors and current pricing is: Belfab is $5,800 includes a manual shaker and motor starter, 5hp ALKO $19,500, Nederman S-500 $8,500 options manual shaker + $2,000 or auto shaker +$4,000 + $1,000 starter or third party starter for $250.?
Jay Bowen
Cleveland
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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I am in the middle of consolidating collectors and current pricing is: Belfab is $5,800 includes a manual shaker and motor starter, 5hp ALKO $19,500, Nederman S-500 $8,500 options manual shaker + $2,000 or auto shaker +$4,000 + $1,000 starter or third party starter for $250.?
Jay Bowen
Cleveland
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Re: One dust collector to rule them all?
Joe,
? ?Preston dust collector guy commented on Felder and ALKO dust collectors - Those two companies I am familiar with and they use cartridge style filters which all those sounds great to start with is not good or really anything besides MDF or fumes. The reason being is because they get so clogged with dust that the cleaning capabilities becomes moot. Almost all of the United States Dust Collection companies are using a sock similar to ours. Those reverse poles jet systems are coming from Europe, which have much more stringent air quality rules. With that said they work great for a little while but the filters are very expensive to replace and aren¡¯t a very good solution for plastics or would dust in reality.?
So very confusing. Dave Davies
I have a larger dual fan Belfab system and have used both the Nederman 500 and 750 at shows. I have to say I¡¯m pretty impressed with the suction capability on the Nederman. It picks up the Soukup tenoner better than any DC I have experienced including my Belfab. The Belfab is quieter with the Hummer fan. Not sure if Nederman has a option for that.
My only complaint about the Belfab is it emits a little more dust through the bags than it should. Mine has a manual shaker and that is simple and works well. My previous Murphy MRM system had a auto shaker that was always on the blink. That was a good system though till we out grew it. Fan was on the clean air side.
At some point I will be downsizing the DC and probably go with a Nederman 500 or? Alko 250 or 300. Alko is pricy but well engineered and clean. I believe they have the fan on the clean air side. Alko is weaker on suction than the previous mentioned units but the trade off is a very clean setup.
-- Dave & Marie Davies
318-219-7868
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I also still have a Northstate 16 in open belt sander for sale.$3000.00. unit is like brand new. 302-545-6937
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On Dec 8, 2022, at 10:27 AM, jmsswift via < jmsswift@...> wrote:
I have a Felder 950 Classic for sale Sander 37 inch wide<816BD468-A95E-440E-AEC9-EF5F984A5467.jpeg><75D42AC6-B734-4C51-9A5D-36A8B270C770.jpeg><BE784E13-FB90-4C61-A019-B4A3EB6991C3.jpeg>
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Re: Need advice re door construction
Joe suggestions are of course right on . You can make to story sticks to visually see how it works.? You will have to be able to lock one door? Designing and building for 50 years
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On Dec 8, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Joe Calhoon via groups.io <joecalhoon@...> wrote:
?Door that thick you would need a triple rebate on one and the reverse on the other. Or a wide astrigal that is rebated.
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Re: Need advice re door construction
Door that thick you would need a triple rebate on one and the reverse on the other. Or a wide astrigal that is rebated.
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Need advice re door construction
I could use some advice from this group of builders with a lot more experience than me. I¡¯m building a set of carriage-style shop doors that meet in the middle, French-door style. They are big, 5 1/2¡¯ x 8¡¯, and I¡¯ve built them torsion box style out of engineered 2x4 because I wanted plenty of insulation.
Here¡¯s where I¡¯m stuck. Since the doors are so thick (4 7/8¡¯¡¯) I¡¯m concerned that they will hit each other as they meet, and I don¡¯t know how to figure out an appropriate gap between them to avoid this. The torsion box door slab will be wrapped with cedar so I have that material to use to adjust.
Suggestions?
Bird in Wisconsin
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Re: One dust collector to rule them all?
I have a larger dual fan Belfab system and have used both the Nederman 500 and 750 at shows. I have to say I¡¯m pretty impressed with the suction capability on the Nederman. It picks up the Soukup tenoner better than any DC I have experienced including my Belfab. The Belfab is quieter with the Hummer fan. Not sure if Nederman has a option for that.
My only complaint about the Belfab is it emits a little more dust through the bags than it should. Mine has a manual shaker and that is simple and works well. My previous Murphy MRM system had a auto shaker that was always on the blink. That was a good system though till we out grew it. Fan was on the clean air side.
At some point I will be downsizing the DC and probably go with a Nederman 500 or Alko 250 or 300. Alko is pricy but well engineered and clean. I believe they have the fan on the clean air side. Alko is weaker on suction than the previous mentioned units but the trade off is a very clean setup.
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