Mitch, ? This is best I can think of. Maybe someone here will confirm. Run it by Felder before implementing it. 
Imran ? ?
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From: [email protected] On Behalf Of cmluck01 Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 8:12 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [FOG] ZIEHL STW1K S225636 Dust Collector Control Module #dustcollection ? The dust collector motor is single phase and thus uses just two of the available 3 input lines at the contactor. The contactor is controlled by 240V for switching on/off. ? On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 7:21 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote: I assume your dust collector motor is 3 phase since you mention it is controlled by a 3 phase contactor. How is this contactor switched? 110AC or 220AC or some DC voltage? I can at least recommend something that you should run by felder before trying. From PN you have 220-240VAC model. ?Greetings to all,
I recently purchased, from Felder, a ZIEHL STW1K S225636 Dust Collector Control Module along with a few of the ZIEHL STWA1 Coil Transformers to control my dust collector. This module controls up to 8 machines and uses the coil transformers to activate a relay in the STW1K to turn on the dust collector. When the individual machines (say a saw or planer), are powered off, then the dust collector will too be turned off, following a short delay. If anyone is familiar with this setup, I could use some help on the wiring. I am unsure of the connections at A1, A2, 16, and 18. See photos and wiring diagrams. For reference, I'm running a Felder K940 5.5 KW 3 phase slider and Felder AD951 3 phase Jointer/Planer 7.5 KW via a Phase Perfect 20 HP. My Dust collector has a 5HP with Baldor motor with a 3 Phase contactor for on/off. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Pending delivery, looking for advice
Chris Perren's recommendations are spot- on. Be sure to get a NARROW pallet jack, regulars won't fit under many pieces of Felder kit. Mac's clamps are an "expensive option" when you are shopping/looking, but once you have them they are "essential." Don't wait, get them now.? One more: consider the commissioning service if you are new to Felder - their documentation is not *bad* but it assumes you have a certain level of experience but there are little tricks here and there which can save you a lot of time and effort, not to mention potential damage to the goods. Next- to- lastly, get ahold of David Best's Unofficial Survival Guide. Many good hints and methods which will help, no matter which pieces you have purchased. And lastly, welcome and good luck! Cheers Eric
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:26 PM Chris Perren < cperren@...> wrote: ? - Get a Pallet Jack
- Make sure you have 220 drops and DC ducting ready.?
- Standardize on [TENRYU IW-30050CBD3] 300mm Saw Blade ¨¤?
- Buy MAC clamps
? Regards, ? Chris Perren ? ? New to the group. I have a delivery of 4 new machines due in 4 weeks (KF700, FB510, RL160, and Hammer A3-41.?
I am just a hobbist and am new to both sliders and Felder but after much research chose to go this route.?
With the machines due in the next month, is there any prep advice anyone could give to make sure I'm ready when they arrive? (Electrical is done and verified)
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Imran,
The dust collector motor is single phase and thus uses just two of the available 3 input lines at the contactor. The contactor is controlled by 240V for switching on/off.
Thanks, Mitch
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 7:21 PM imranindiana via <imranindiana= [email protected]> wrote: cmluck,
I assume your dust collector motor is 3 phase since you mention it is controlled by a 3 phase contactor. How is this contactor switched? 110AC or 220AC or some DC voltage?
I can at least recommend something that you should run by felder before trying.
From PN you have 220-240VAC model.
Imran? ?Greetings to all, I recently purchased, from Felder, a ZIEHL STW1K S225636 Dust Collector Control Module along with a few of the ZIEHL STWA1 Coil Transformers to control my dust collector. This module controls up to 8 machines and uses the coil transformers to activate a relay in the STW1K to turn on the dust collector. When the individual machines (say a saw or planer), are powered off, then the dust collector will too be turned off, following a short delay. If anyone is familiar with this setup, I could use some help on the wiring. I am unsure of the connections at A1, A2, 16, and 18. See photos and wiring diagrams. For reference, I'm running a Felder K940 5.5 KW 3 phase slider and Felder AD951 3 phase Jointer/Planer 7.5 KW via a Phase Perfect 20 HP. My Dust collector has a 5HP with Baldor motor with a 3 Phase contactor for on/off. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Pending delivery, looking for advice
? - Get a Pallet Jack
- Make sure you have 220 drops and DC ducting ready.?
- Standardize on [TENRYU IW-30050CBD3] 300mm Saw Blade ¨¤?
- Buy MAC clamps
? Regards, ? Chris Perren ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Troy Holtby Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2021 4:55 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [FOG] Pending delivery, looking for advice ? New to the group. I have a delivery of 4 new machines due in 4 weeks (KF700, FB510, RL160, and Hammer A3-41.?
I am just a hobbist and am new to both sliders and Felder but after much research chose to go this route.?
With the machines due in the next month, is there any prep advice anyone could give to make sure I'm ready when they arrive? (Electrical is done and verified)
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Re: Pending delivery, looking for advice
I'll second that, the machines are HEAVY. Depending where you've got to move them to you might consider hiring a rigging company.?
Do you have the duct work plan all squared away for your dust collection? If not, highly recommend the clamp together ductwork. Nordfab is the big name in that category but I got mine from a place in Michigan call the blastgate company (blastgateco.com). Still expensive but not as much as nordfab. I suffer a bit from what I've heard referred to as "rearrangeritis" so the clamp together duct work is awesome. Very easy to switch things around or add a run when needed.?
-DJB
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
Hey All,
the caps will be in on Tuesday so I find out then. ?
Cliff,
It had a electronic brake that is supposed to stop everything from spinning within 10-12 seconds of hitting the stop button. ?I think all it does is switch polarity on the motors.
-Annu?
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Re: Pending delivery, looking for advice
?When they say "drop ship", that's exactly what they mean.? They'll unload the pallet from their lift gate and leave it for you to figure out.? ?Supposedly, a narrow pallet jack makes transporting the pallets doable, although it still doesn't help with unloading.? I ended up using a piano mover who was able to take my A3-31 from its pallet, carry it into my house, and place it on its mobile base (I used a Bora 3550 which I love.? It moves the machine in any direction with one hand once it's unlocked--as opposed to the Felder mobile base which allows you to move the machine only in one direction.? ?I had a SawStop PCS before learning about Hammer.? ?I've used your slider and DE unit along with the A3? in classes--if I had my SawStop purchase to do over again, I'd opt for the slider.? I think you're going to be very happy.
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 7:21 PM Troy Holtby < tholtby@...> wrote: New to the group. I have a delivery of 4 new machines due in 4 weeks (KF700, FB510, RL160, and Hammer A3-41.?
I am just a hobbist and am new to both sliders and Felder but after much research chose to go this route.?
With the machines due in the next month, is there any prep advice anyone could give to make sure I'm ready when they arrive? (Electrical is done and verified)
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Pending delivery, looking for advice
New to the group. I have a delivery of 4 new machines due in 4 weeks (KF700, FB510, RL160, and Hammer A3-41.?
I am just a hobbist and am new to both sliders and Felder but after much research chose to go this route.?
With the machines due in the next month, is there any prep advice anyone could give to make sure I'm ready when they arrive? (Electrical is done and verified)
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cmluck,
I assume your dust collector motor is 3 phase since you mention it is controlled by a 3 phase contactor. How is this contactor switched? 110AC or 220AC or some DC voltage?
I can at least recommend something that you should run by felder before trying.
From PN you have 220-240VAC model.
Imran?
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On Jan 9, 2021, at 4:29 PM, cmluck01@... wrote: ?Greetings to all, I recently purchased, from Felder, a ZIEHL STW1K S225636 Dust Collector Control Module along with a few of the ZIEHL STWA1 Coil Transformers to control my dust collector. This module controls up to 8 machines and uses the coil transformers to activate a relay in the STW1K to turn on the dust collector. When the individual machines (say a saw or planer), are powered off, then the dust collector will too be turned off, following a short delay. If anyone is familiar with this setup, I could use some help on the wiring. I am unsure of the connections at A1, A2, 16, and 18. See photos and wiring diagrams. For reference, I'm running a Felder K940 5.5 KW 3 phase slider and Felder AD951 3 phase Jointer/Planer 7.5 KW via a Phase Perfect 20 HP. My Dust collector has a 5HP with Baldor motor with a 3 Phase contactor for on/off. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Adjustingearing jointer tables on BF6 #helps if no on
#helps
I would add, many times trying to get everything lined up perfectly on a machine is not always necessary(within reason). The best test is if the machine cuts straight, flat, and evenly. If the jointer is doing that, I have learned "If it aint broke don't fix
it".? I learned a lot retro fitting a helical cutterhead on my Hammer jointer/thicknesser, as it meant taking tables of as well as and had to recalibrate everything.
Felder should be able to supply a maintenance file, with relevant tolerances for set up, so you don't spend all day trying to achieve unattainable perfection, when not necessary.
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Greetings to all,
I recently purchased, from Felder, a ZIEHL STW1K S225636 Dust Collector Control Module along with a few of the ZIEHL STWA1 Coil Transformers to control my dust collector. This module controls up to 8 machines and uses the coil transformers to activate a relay in the STW1K to turn on the dust collector. When the individual machines (say a saw or planer), are powered off, then the dust collector will too be turned off, following a short delay. If anyone is familiar with this setup, I could use some help on the wiring. I am unsure of the connections at A1, A2, 16, and 18. See photos and wiring diagrams. For reference, I'm running a Felder K940 5.5 KW 3 phase slider and Felder AD951 3 phase Jointer/Planer 7.5 KW via a Phase Perfect 20 HP. My Dust collector has a 5HP with Baldor motor with a 3 Phase contactor for on/off. Any input is appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Hammer C-31 Planer Issue - Motor Triping
There is a Brake on the Hammer JP?
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On 1/8/21 9:09 PM, imranindiana via groups.io wrote: BTW, in you failed brake board,
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Hi Richard,?
Yes, I'm in the states.? ?I don't have any spindles.?
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 1:34 PM Benjamin Thompson via <scribbleben= [email protected]> wrote: Paul, what bits would you round up for spare inventory? As this one sits it only has one shaper spindle, so that's something to look for.?
I believe it can also power a mortiser, but I imagine those are hard to find.
thanks,
b
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Paul, what bits would you round up for spare inventory? As this one sits it only has one shaper spindle, so that's something to look for.?
I believe it can also power a mortiser, but I imagine those are hard to find.
thanks,
b
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Thanks for all the advice everyone!
Imran, the machine does still have all of it's fences for the saw and shaper. It also has the jointer-guard (euro stye).
Comes with a share spindle and a single cutter head. It's a simple, straight blade with no profiles, probably for edging and rabbeting.
Paul, the casters need to be replaced for locker that can handle the weight. The ones on there now are ellipses from sitting in one place.
$1700-ish was going to be my offer, so it sounds like I'm in the ball park.
I'll keep you posted. If I get it, look out. I'll have tons of noob questions :-)
ben
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AD-41 J/P, Sotps dead in the middle of a planner operation
It does not do it all the time but enough to really aggrivate. I am taking a typical light cut (.02" to .025"), planner table is clean ?and waxed, the feed is set to ?slow
and it will begin to sound labored and stop dead. Lower the table and start over with the same setting and all is well. My machine is a variable speed version.
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I¡¯d also appreciate an exploded diagram pdf, if possible. Thanks to all
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On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Paul Curme < paul.curme@...> wrote:
Martin, I would appreciate a copy of the same document if you are willing to share it.
My nut and bolt overhaul is taking a lot longer than expected so any short cuts would be a much appreciated.
Richard if your machine is.stored in an unheated space I would recommend installing a small tube heater or ceramic heater with a frost thermostat inside the casing that keeps the machine? at 5 degrees.
Coupled with a good cover then is saves a lot of degradation problems from poor environmental conditions
Had i been able to store mine in a space with power for the heater? then all I would be doing is changing bearings.
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Hi Richard?
Firstly I can commiserate with you being in the garage... me too!
You¡¯ve been given good advice though and it¡¯s all on the right lines!
I¡¯ve had to do it a couple of times and yes it is a juggling game as you adjust one element and then the others go out and you keep going round in circles!
However there is a correct procedure and it¡¯s easier when you take that route!
I managed to get copies of the engineers set up manual and it made so much more sense as it involves the saw table, blade holder,blades, out feed and in-feed tables, let me know how I can send you the relevant and I¡¯ll be happy to help!
Do you have the manual that comes with the machine? As you¡¯ll probably need that as well!
It¡¯s shocking that these set up procedures are not supplied with the machine!
Regards Martin?
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Richard a pair of DTI's on magnetic bases would be the ideal tools for setting the outfeed table
?if you can lay your hands on them.
It will show you straight away if there is movement as you are tightening anything, especially with the hood removed.
Thanks Paul,
I have the exploded drawings.
I'll have a good look today. It's chilly here in my garage!
I don't mind spending days on doing it, as long as I am doing it right! It should only need doing once.
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?Thanks for the thread. I had a brain fart while swapping blades on my bf6 and accidentally somehow turned the set screws for the table. I¡¯ve not gotten it back since. Not good enough.?
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On Jan 8, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Martin Guiver via < martin.guiver@...> wrote: Hi Richard? Firstly I can commiserate with you being in the garage... me too! You¡¯ve been given good advice though and it¡¯s all on the right lines! I¡¯ve had to do it a couple of times and yes it is a juggling game as you adjust one element and then the others go out and you keep going round in circles! However there is a correct procedure and it¡¯s easier when you take that route! I managed to get copies of the engineers set up manual and it made so much more sense as it involves the saw table, blade holder,blades, out feed and in-feed tables, let me know how I can send you the relevant and I¡¯ll be happy to help! Do you have the manual that comes with the machine? As you¡¯ll probably need that as well! It¡¯s shocking that these set up procedures are not supplied with the machine! Regards Martin? ?
Richard a pair of DTI's on magnetic bases would be the ideal tools for setting the outfeed table
?if you can lay your hands on them.
It will show you straight away if there is movement as you are tightening anything, especially with the hood removed.
Thanks Paul,
I have the exploded drawings.
I'll have a good look today. It's chilly here in my garage!
I don't mind spending days on doing it, as long as I am doing it right! It should only need doing once.
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Re: Adjustingearing jointer tables on BF6 #helps if no on
#helps
In answer to my own question, yes! there are 2 pairs of bolts underneath. If you slacken off the cross bolts that go through the round pins, the bolts underneath become loose too. You can then wind them in or out and then tighten up the cross bolts.
So I now have coplanar tables - within about 0.2mm.
I found that my planer blades are not quite set right either, but that's all detailed in the manual.
My garage/workshop reached a max of 4 degrees C today, so the blades can wait until tomorrow!
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Re: Just another used Felder thread
Marlowe, I guess you are in the States?
Do you have a high speed shaper spindle?
Cheers. Richard.
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