Re: 4" hose for overhead guard

#110869

Hi Michael,

There was not any scientific calculations involved with my decision.? I had 4- and 5-inch hoses, so I designed my DC pipe around these parameters.? My KF 700 SP is the first machine in the DC pipe run from a ClearVue CV1800.? The main pipe from the cyclone is 6-inch.? It is quite adequate for a 2-car garage shop and 1 woodworker, who only turns on one machine at any given time.? With the 4-inch hose for the over head saw guard, there is enough air flow to carry small cut offs up the hood and to the cyclone impeller.??

SW

Re: 4" hose for overhead guard

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I did some measurements with a very expensive airflow meter I borrowed from work. Going to a 4” hose with 4” fitting definitely increases the airflow, not sure if I measured the 4” hose connected the the 3” connector and if it made a difference, it does lower the cfm on the lower port but with the 800-950 cfm i have it has not been an issue if anything there is too much in the overhead as strips can get sucked up.?

I have a 6” main going to a 5” drop to a wye, 4” to the overhead and 5” to the saw body which of course gets choked to 4” through the saw to the port below the blade.?

I will see if I wrote anything down tonight and try to confirm some numbers, but it is very subjective as it depends on where the measurements are taken, elevation, temp ect, the meter I used accounts for the latter and probably doesn’t matter much anyways?

Regards, Mark

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On Oct 29, 2020, at 11:13 AM, michael@... wrote:

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I got interested in everyones 4" connections to the overhead guard in this thread:
/g/felderownersgroup/topic/77872277#110860

I might do this as well, but I do wonder how you all arrived at this solution. I haven't yet had any trouble collecting dust in my overhead guard with a 3" hose and the original adapter.

Q1: Is the suction from above more important than the suction from under the table?

Q2: Keeping the air at speed in one 4" and 5" hose (as I'm using under the table) might be hard for me with just a Felder AF14 dust collector. Do you all have enough air flow to use 4"+5" hoses effectively at the same time? In my 3"+5" setup I get approx 22 m/s in the larger hose (equals 4330 feet/min), which I think is enough.

Q3: If Q1=Yes and Q2=No, it seems reasonable to decrease the hose diameter for the hose under the table. Maybe use 4"+4"?

Thanks
//Michael

Re: Shop Tour

#110867

This is such a treat to see, thank you for sharing. ?I aspire to have such a beautiful and thoughtful space.?

You mentioned trepidation before buying your barth clamping unit. Has that been a valuable addition??

Thank again
anthony?

4" hose for overhead guard

#110866
Edited

I got interested in everyones 4" connections to the overhead guard in this thread:
/g/felderownersgroup/topic/77872277#110860

I might do this as well, but I do wonder how you all arrived at this solution. I haven't yet had any trouble collecting dust in my overhead guard with a 3" hose and the original adapter.

Q1: Is the suction from above more important than the suction from under the table?

Q2: Keeping the air at speed in one 4" and 5" hose (as I'm using under the table) might be hard for me with just a Felder AF14 dust collector. Do you all have enough air flow to use 4"+5" hoses effectively at the same time? In my 3"+5" setup I get approx 22 m/s in the larger hose (equals 4330 feet/min), which I think is enough.

Q3: If Q1=Yes and Q2=No, it seems reasonable to decrease the hose diameter for the hose under the table. Maybe use 4"+4"?

Thanks
//Michael

Re: Shop Tour

#110865

Loved your statement:
If you ask my wife she would tell you that I kind of do do it for a living.?

Mine would say the same, just not quite the same wallet to fill the vacuum with...

EPIC shop video.

PK

Re: Shop Tour

#110864

Hi Brett: Ha! I shot the video after a 4-hour clean up, so everything is "too clean" :)
For moving parts around I have the big work table that you see in the video and a smaller version that's tucked away. I also have a bunch of dollies.?

Re: "compromises," I made the decision several years ago to invest in the best quality equipment I can in order to increase accuracy, reduce "fiddling around" (= increase productivity), and to only have to buy it once.
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com

Re: 4 new 410mm/16” Centrostar jointer/planer blades available cheap

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#110863

I just called Oella Saw and to my surprise they will swap no charge. ?2 years after I ordered them! ?That’s great customer service.

Re: Shop Tour

#110862

Kerry -?

It takes a lot of courage to post a shop video, it is evident the kind of work you put out and the care you give your equipment, even the auction-find resaw bandsaw relegated to the back corner. A couple thoughts:

1. As a fellow member of the SabreNation with an IS408 - I like your tool rack/bench to the side and the F4 vacuum mounting is elegant. But your table top is too clean, lol.

2. How do you shuttle parts around the shop? I saw your rolling workbenches, but not a lot of "shop carts" Maybe I missed them. Or is your forklift handy there, too?

3. It's hard to see where you've made compromises with your setup, and utlilizing the natural light in your shop layout has got to increase mood every step of the way. Well done!

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On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 8:00 AM Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:

Thanks, Joe. I don't do a lot of spray finishing -- hardly any. If I have a big cabinet job, I have it painted by a professional finisher about a mile away. For most of my furniture pieces I use Tried & True (oil/wax) applied by hand. Lately, I've been using Osmo oil, which goes on easy and provides a hard finish when cured.?
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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks

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Brett Wissel
Saint Louis Restoration
1831 S Kingshighway Blvd (at Shaw Blvd)
St Louis, MO 63110

314.772.2167
brett@...

Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop

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Awesome, here is a perfect version.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of michael@...
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 1:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] 3D printer usage for wood shop

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Joe, I'm not quite sure of which plastic part you mean, but you might find that the part is already designed by someone at Thingiverse. Here is a search for "bessey":

Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop

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i did this with a $10 heat gun from HF. i did get side tracked and ended up bending it to the rear instead of to the side like John Kee but it works. just created a rectangular form on a 2x6 and went to work.

imran

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On Oct 29, 2020, at 9:04 AM, James Zhu <james.zhu2@...> wrote:

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John Kee posted his solution a?few times before. You can make a fitting to connect to 4" hose directly,? use a heat gun, 4" dust elbow fitting and a wedge template.

????

James

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:10 PM Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

Thanks!

Bill Bélanger?

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 20:00 Shinta Wakahisa via <vnh84=[email protected]> wrote:
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No 3D printer.? About $4 at the local box store, heat gun, fits 4-inch hose.? Ugly, but functional.? The 3D print stuffs look quite nice!??

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Re: Shop Tour

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Kerry:

Thanks for the great video and sharing your shop.

I also loved your reply - Nature Hates a Vacuum, I managed to fill it up.

That best describes my shop, and life - both full, and I plan to engrave it on a plaque to go over my shop’s entrance.

Gil Fuqua

Nashville

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On Oct 28, 2020, at 11:13 PM, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:

?Yes, I'm leasing. Industrial space in Bridgeport, CT is relatively reasonable, plus the landlord was motivated to make a deal, so I got more space than I really needed. But, as nature hates a vacuum, I managed to fill it up.

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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com

Re: Shop Tour

#110858

Thanks Kerry,

That is the MOVE model press I assume? Curious that they call it the inexpensive vacuum press-at $10K. That's the difference, as someone who does this for a living, I would have a hard time justifying that when the $1100 zipper bag I've got from Vacupress can do the same things. Ours is 5x10' and gets used so frequently, I doubt it would ever get tilted up. We have the room most of the time anyway. Nonetheless, I'd love to have it. It also looks like the membrane is not clear? I'd find that hard being used to the ability to see the work while it's drawing down.

Wish our shop had all those windows too! Very nice. We have the security of being in a bunker more or less. Nobody can see all the expensive things inside.

I understand how a hobby can get out of hand. My habit?of wood acquisition for future guitar building is getting ridiculous.

Enjoy!

Jason

Jason Holtz
J. Holtz Furniture

3307 Snelling Ave. South

Minneapolis, MN 55406
612 432-2765

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Jason
J. Holtz Furniture
3307 Snelling Ave. South
Minneapolis, MN 55406

Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop

#110857

John Kee posted his solution a?few times before. You can make a fitting to connect to 4" hose directly,? use a heat gun, 4" dust elbow fitting and a wedge template.

????

James

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On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:10 PM Bill Bélanger <Bllblngr@...> wrote:

Thanks!

Bill Bélanger?

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 20:00 Shinta Wakahisa via <vnh84=[email protected]> wrote:

No 3D printer.? About $4 at the local box store, heat gun, fits 4-inch hose.? Ugly, but functional.? The 3D print stuffs look quite nice!??

Wedge.jpg

Re: Shop Tour

#110856

Thanks, Joe. I don't do a lot of spray finishing -- hardly any. If I have a big cabinet job, I have it painted by a professional finisher about a mile away. For most of my furniture pieces I use Tried & True (oil/wax) applied by hand. Lately, I've been using Osmo oil, which goes on easy and provides a hard finish when cured.?
--
Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com

Re: Shop Tour

#110855

Great video! Thanks for sharing. How are you doing your finishing? That was the only part of your workflow I didn't catch. Barth vacuum table is amazing!

Re: Shop Tour

#110854

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Wow, jaw still on floor ?

imran

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On Oct 28, 2020, at 11:12 PM, Kerryj_smith <kerry@...> wrote:

?Well, I got the shop as clean as it is going to get for the next several months so I thought I shoot a tour for a client. Here's a link to the video for those who are interested.

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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com

Re: 3D printer usage for wood shop

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Joe, I'm not quite sure of which plastic part you mean, but you might find that the part is already designed by someone at Thingiverse. Here is a search for "bessey":

Edit:
I think this is what you mean:?

Re: 4 new 410mm/16” Centrostar jointer/planer blades available cheap

#110852

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Yes if they are still available I would like to purchase them !

Thanks Van

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On Oct 28, 2020, at 5:32 PM, mattkeimartworks@... wrote:

?I just went to install a new set of blades on my AD741 jointer/planer and 4 of the 6 blades shipped to me are the wrong part number. ?I am going to call Oella Saw and Tool but I bought them 2 years ago so I doubt a swap will be possible. ?They appear to be for?Wigo / Laguna AT970410W According to their web site. ?Anyone need these?

On the actual package
part number 114777, HSS 410mm, 18%/T1, system Centrostar
also has number FAO170213

Re: Shop Tour

#110851

Yes, I'm leasing. Industrial space in Bridgeport, CT is relatively reasonable, plus the landlord was motivated to make a deal, so I got more space than I really needed. But, as nature hates a vacuum, I managed to fill it up.

--
Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com

Re: Shop Tour

#110850

If you ask my wife she would tell you that I kind of do do it for a living. The vacuum press is made by Columbus Tech in Austria (columbus-tech.com). It has a rubber membrane that can stretch to about 36" for bent laminations and form work. It runs on a Becker pump and has a pretty big air tank. It's mobile and as you can see in the video the top flips up so it doesn't eat up real estate when not in use. I didn't want to deal with bags and I felt the flip top tables widely available over here seemed kind of flimsy, especially for the price. This one was not cheap (about $10k + freight, etc.) but it is of super high quality and will likely hold it's value.?

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Kerry Smith
Gotham Woodworks
www.gothamwoodworks.com