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Eurovan Pop-Top Rattle??


 

When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
bed-board rattling overhead.
Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC
'86 Vanagon
'81 Vanagon
'74 BMW 2002
'95 BMW M3


Georgene Vairo
 

My bedboard rattles too. So, I just wedge in some rubber. Low tech,
but it works.

kgkirkley@... wrote:


When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
bed-board rattling overhead.
Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC
'86 Vanagon
'81 Vanagon
'74 BMW 2002
'95 BMW M3

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We've had rattles as well, although they usually don't sound like the
bed board. They subside if we put a couple tight wraps of electrical
tape around the posts that lock into the roof latches. This pads the
posts to avoid metal-to-metal contact, and will last for a couple
months at a time.

Our bed board barely moves when the top is down. We always have the
mattresses in place, and usually have a blanket or fleece sleeping bag
stowed up there as well. We've noticed that the rubber pads on the
bottom and sides of the bed board tend to come loose, so we've cemented
them back in place with a stronger adhesive.

Joel Funk
97 EVC 30k mi

kgkirkle-@... wrote:

When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
bed-board rattling overhead.
Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC
'86 Vanagon
'81 Vanagon
'74 BMW 2002
'95 BMW M3


 

One thing I notice about our pop top on our 95 evc is that it will latch (you
can hear the click) but sometimes it will latch to different degrees. If you
stick your finger into the latch you can tell if the latching mechanism has
closed completely around the little metal rods. The top will be "latched" but
not as fully as it could be and when this is the case ours rattles. I have to
latch each side one at a time. I have to hold the roof handle with both hands
and sort of jump down with all my body weight on one side (each time waiting
for the handle to break and me to crash to the floor). Stonger folks can
probably just pull hard and fully latch the latch. Then, when you stick your
finger in the latch area again, you can feel that each rod is fully enclosed
by the latch mechanism.

Sue


 

One thing I have done to minimize the rattling is to get some foam
weather stripping that is about .75" wide and .5 thick. I got a roll
of this from the Hardware store, and it is sticky on one side.

I put some on the ledges underneath the bed boards on the top bed, and
also under the middle part of the lower bed near the back (the part
that covers the "tunnel" you see when you open the rear hatch). It
made my EVC noticably quieter.

Leon Webster
'97 EVC


 

Kent,

I have the 93 Weekender. About a year ago, the board on which the "upstairs"
mattress rests started banging whenever the EV went over a bump.
Investigation revealed two plastic cushioning strips had moved out of place.
These strips were supposed to be mounted on the side lips of the hole in the
EV top (not the pop-top but the metal portion of the EV's body's top) and to
be directly under the sides of the bed board. However, the adhesive had
allowed them to move out of place such that the bed board was resting
directly of the metal of the EV. I repositioned them since the adhesive was
fairly soft. It was a very simple job. I am not sure if this is the cause
of your noise.

In a message dated 11/14/99 11:57:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kgkirkley@... writes:

When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
bed-board rattling overhead.
Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC

Bob Williams
93 Weekender with 5-speed
Severna Park, MD


Charles Bragg
 

At 08:54 PM 11/14/1999 -0800, Kent wrote:
When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
bed-board rattling overhead.
Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
I'm still de-rattling my 99 EVC. I *think* I lowered the roof noise a lot by leaving the cushions *and* a modest-sized down comforter in the upper bunk while the top is down. I wouldn't want to leave too much up there and do damage to the top, but this seemed like a reasonable step.

-- Chuck 99 EVC


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Chuck Bragg, Santa Monica Bay Audubon

cgbragg@...
fax: 209-671-6396
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Bill Segesser
 

one other tip is that I ensure mine's fully latched by reaching up and
pulling down on the top front corners on the outside. I've heard a
"secondary" click by doing this more than once.

-----Original Message-----
From: Suemccowan@... [mailto:Suemccowan@...]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 1:30 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Eurovan Pop-Top Rattle??


One thing I notice about our pop top on our 95 evc is that it will latch
(you
can hear the click) but sometimes it will latch to different degrees.
If you
stick your finger into the latch you can tell if the latching mechanism
has
closed completely around the little metal rods. The top will be
"latched" but
not as fully as it could be and when this is the case ours rattles. I
have to
latch each side one at a time. I have to hold the roof handle with both
hands
and sort of jump down with all my body weight on one side (each time
waiting
for the handle to break and me to crash to the floor). Stonger folks can

probably just pull hard and fully latch the latch. Then, when you stick
your
finger in the latch area again, you can feel that each rod is fully
enclosed
by the latch mechanism.

Sue

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The top should click twice on each side when you pull on the handles.
On my 95 EVC there was an annoying rattle from the top/bed. I removed the
metal plate on the forward face of the rear half of the bed. Behind this were
loose bolts on either side, this removed one of more serious the rattles.

On the 99 this is the plate that has the hinge screwed to it.

Steve in Portland


 

I had a noise coming from the top when I drove the vehicle, although it
didn't quite sound like your description. But...

After living with my queaks for a few months, I desided to investigate
(Sue, my wife, told me to fix it - please). There are only 3
mechanical/structural attachment points for the top, the latch in
front and two hinges in the rear.

The front latch seemed secure, leaving only the 2 hinges to checkout. I
popped the top open, crawled back to the back hinges (the top can hold
up a 200lb person). There are 3 threaded bolts on each hinge (total of
6) that hold the top to the hinges. To my surprise, I only found 1
bolt in the passenger side hinge - and it was loose! I couldn't find
the others anywhere in the top. My guess was that thay may never have
been there because if they fell out, they would still be up there
somewhere. I tightened the loose one, then took one out from the
driver side and moved it over. I figured 2 and 2 was better than a 3
and 1 arrangement. I have since added the additional missing bolts.

Let me know what you find...

Jerry

kgkirkle-@... wrote:
original article:

When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
bed-board rattling overhead.
Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC
'86 Vanagon
'81 Vanagon
'74 BMW 2002
'95 BMW M3


Gary Clendening
 

Our '97 is very quiet with few if any rattles. Did you characters check on
your bedboards to see if there were those rubber dots stuck on the bottom to
stop the rattles? Each bedboard had plenty of these even after several fell
off and I replaced them.

Since we use the upper bed so little and seeing Gerry Edge's approach of
just taking everything out of the roof and using the hollow space for
storage, I can say that removing the bedboards did not silence the van any
at all because we had plenty of those rubber "dots" in the first place. I
may return the one mattress to the roof because it keeps clothes pressed
nicely for dressy occasions.

Gary from Maine


 

charles bragg <cgbrag-@...> wrote:
original article:
At 08:54 PM 11/14/1999 -0800, Kent wrote:
When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
bed-board rattling overhead.
Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
I'm still de-rattling my 99 EVC. I *think* I lowered the roof noise
a lot by leaving the cushions *and* a modest-sized down comforter in
the upper bunk while the top is down. I wouldn't want to leave too much
up there and do damage to the top, but this seemed like a reasonable
step.
I solved the rattling on my (& EVC by tightening up the two hooks that
engage when you pull the top down. It worked wonders.
stevek
97 EVC - still can't get email delivery of the ev-update.
have to go to the site.
-- Chuck 99 EVC


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Chuck Bragg, Santa Monica Bay Audubon

cgbragg@...
fax: 209-671-6396
========


James H. McCarthy
 

Can you tell us how? I've looked and found it all to be very tight
quarters, and could not figure out what to turn to tighten. My rattle is
mostly on the passenger side hook. Jim McCarthy

At 12:51 PM 11/16/1999 -0800, skammerer@... wrote:
I solved the rattling on my (& EVC by tightening up the two hooks that
engage when you pull the top down. It worked wonders.
stevek
Jim McCarthy
ex '87 Westfalia
'95 EuroVanCamper
Somerville, MA, USA