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Objet : Objet : Objet : Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
Yves Desilets
开云体育Maybe able to access these four modules you mentioned, but to my memory, I wasn’t able to do ‘adaptation’ for the TB or EGR valve !!! The program didn’t allow me to do so. I would have liked because I knew how to do it !!! I’m not confusing myself..... ? Yves ? Envoyé à partir de pour Windows ? De?: Duane
Envoyé le?:11 septembre 2021 16:32 ??: [email protected] Objet?:Re: Objet : Objet : Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC ? On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 03:13 PM, Yves Desilets wrote:
You're confusing yourself.? The EGR and TB adaptation are done in the Engine computer.? You ARE accessing all of the computer modules in your EV, 01-Engine, 02-Transmission, 03-ABS, and 15-Airbags.? The others don't exist on your EV, so won't connect.? If you can connect to those 4, the cable is likely okay.? If you were to do an Auto Scan of something like a Phaeton, it would find 40 or 50 modules! ? |
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Re: Objet : Objet : Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 03:13 PM, Yves Desilets wrote:
my mechanic was able to reset the throttle body by doing an adaptation and the ‘Egr’ valve as well, that means that my OBDII connection is OK !! Also, while traveling, I’m Always using the Scangauge II plugged to that port and everything works well.....To resume, I think you’re right all the way when you say that my cable might be faulty and that I can’t access all the modules in my EV because of its age.You're confusing yourself.? The EGR and TB adaptation are done in the Engine computer.? You ARE accessing all of the computer modules in your EV, 01-Engine, 02-Transmission, 03-ABS, and 15-Airbags.? The others don't exist on your EV, so won't connect.? If you can connect to those 4, the cable is likely okay.? If you were to do an Auto Scan of something like a Phaeton, it would find 40 or 50 modules! -- Duane 05HD Rialta 210K Miles |
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Objet : Objet : Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
Yves Desilets
开云体育Duane, ? I can do the Auto-Scan without problem but it only detects 4 modules (01-02-03 and 15). It doesn’t do 22 and 25. If my mechanic was able to reset the throttle body by doing an adaptation and the ‘Egr’ valve as well, that means that my OBDII connection is OK !! Also, while traveling, I’m Always using the Scangauge II plugged to that port and everything works well.....To resume, I think you’re right all the way when you say that my cable might be faulty and that I can’t access all the modules in my EV because of its age. Uwe Ross told me that also in a previous email while I asked him the same problems. He sait that I couldn’t access more modules with the VCDS-Lite and said also that it wouldn’t be better if I upgraded to the HEX-V2 one !!! Don’t know what to think right now. How come that more expensive diagnostic Tools CAN access these other modules and not the Ross-Techs ? Am I in trouble or what ? What’s the real problem according to you ? Ross-Tech Tools, my third-party cable ? I just want to have a tool that would not be too expensive and let me do some work on my van !!! I’m quite mixed up now..... ? YVes ? Envoyé à partir de pour Windows ? De?: Duane
Envoyé le?:11 septembre 2021 07:25 ??: [email protected] Objet?:Re: Objet : Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC ? On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 01:03 AM, Yves Desilets wrote:
If Auto Scan works, I don't think you have the problem.? See ? |
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Re: Replace AC/Heater control module
Thank you Paul! Plan to order one today. Long shipping time tho. :)
I do have another question ( for you and others) as to removing and replacing the small metal clips that hold the cables in place. Do you know if a special tool is needed to remove these. Prying them loose with a flat head screwdriver is not the best way! Potential breakage of plastic I think. I've been unable to remove the clips at the lever connection points under the dash. Thanks again! Rhodney PS Does anyone know a video link showing some doing this project? |
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Re: Wheels for 2002 camper
Chris
If anyone is still looking for wheels, I have a set of 4 original steel wheels from a 2003 EVC. They are in near-new condition. The first owner of my EVC replaced them with Alu wheels within the first 5,000 miles. They have been in storage since. They come with 15 bolts (the 16th is missing :).
They are the original steel wheels: 7Jx16 H2 ET 49 I am looking for $200 for the set. |
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Re: Objet : Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
On Sat, Sep 11, 2021 at 01:03 AM, Yves Desilets wrote:
one other thing (not mentioned) in your intervention is the fact that if an aftermarket radio is installedIf Auto Scan works, I don't think you have the problem.? See -- Duane 05HD Rialta 210K Miles |
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Objet : Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
Yves Desilets
开云体育Thanks for the good info here. But, one other thing (not mentioned) in your intervention is the fact that if an aftermarket radio is installed instead of the OEM one, it can suck 1 V to the OBDII plug causing the cable to not work correctly. That’s what I found on a Forum while searching for what the default could be !!...don’t know if that matters or not though. As for the cable, I find this annoying ‘cause I was so confident that it would work, based on the feedbacks of others who have bought it. It’s a KKL VAG-COM for 409.1. One thing that makes me Wonder if it’s ok or not is the fact that it has a ‘red’ light that is ON when I connect it. I thought that it should have turned to ‘green’ when plugged in and working !!! ? Yves ? Envoyé à partir de pour Windows ? De?: Duane
Envoyé le?:10 septembre 2021 22:31 ??: [email protected] Objet?:Re: Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC ? On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 06:22 PM, Yves Desilets wrote:
No.? When you choose from the list, that's a default of all possible modules used on that model.? Only those that are installed will return information.? The others will time out after 3 tries.? I believe on yours you'll only see 01-Engine, 02-Transmission, 03-Brakes, and 15-Airbags.? Some of the others: 08-HVAC (Climatronic), 17-InstrumentCluster, 19-Gateway (CAN-BUS), 25-Immobilizer, 35-CentralLocks (remote for doors), 56-Radio. ? |
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Re: Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 06:22 PM, Yves Desilets wrote:
I think I would be able to address each of these last Numbers if my cable was working correctly.No.? When you choose from the list, that's a default of all possible modules used on that model.? Only those that are installed will return information.? The others will time out after 3 tries.? I believe on yours you'll only see 01-Engine, 02-Transmission, 03-Brakes, and 15-Airbags.? Some of the others: 08-HVAC (Climatronic), 17-InstrumentCluster, 19-Gateway (CAN-BUS), 25-Immobilizer, 35-CentralLocks (remote for doors), 56-Radio. I made a file specific to Rialtas that only checks 01, 02, 15, 17, 19, 25, and 35 during Auto Scan since that's the most modules that any of them had, even the last ones like mine.? On early models, it only finds the ones that exist, only 01 and 02 on the 5 cylinder models. The Lite version won't do those until you pay for a license.? If you paid the registration fee to Ross-Tech and still can't do things like adaptations, then you have a faulty cable.? You can read about them at -- Duane 05HD Rialta 210K Miles |
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Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
Yves Desilets
开云体育I know that but how come my transmission mechanic was able to do a lot of work on my van with his scanner (Snap-On Appollo D8) ? He was able to realign the TB as well as the EGR valve !!!.....things that I can’t do with my ‘limited’ VCDS-Lite program..... ? Yves ? ? Envoyé à partir de pour Windows ? De?: Slavic via groups.io
Envoyé le?:10 septembre 2021 15:59 ??: [email protected] Objet?:Re: [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC ? The speedometer cluster on 1997 Eurovan is old style, its do not even wired to diagnostic. Newer style speedometer clusters (1999 and newer Eurovan) is wired to OBD2, so those works with VCDS but not older style.? ? |
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Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
Yves Desilets
开云体育If I choose 70 for the Numbers of my VIN code, as it is supposed to be, I only get these Numbers?: 01,02,03,08,15,18,22 and 25 I think. But, if I go to Ross-Tech Instructions, I’m supposed to choose 7D insteadof 70 and in that case, I can have more Numbers like 01,02,,03,08,15,17,18,19,22,25,35,37 and 56. I think I would be able to address each of these last Numbers if my cable was working correctly. I’m using VCDS-Lite (Registered) and it works well besides that message ‘No Response from Controller’ for most of the modules, maybe except 4 of them like 01,02,03 and 08 !!! ? YVes ? Envoyé à partir de pour Windows ? De?: Duane
Envoyé le?:10 septembre 2021 15:13 ??: [email protected] Objet?:Re: [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC ? On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:43 AM, Yves Desilets wrote:
Out of curiosity, what are the module addresses?? I can only come up with a list of 8 for a Eurovan, but I may be forgetting some. ? |
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Re: Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 02:55 PM, Yves Desilets wrote:
would it be preferable to upgrade my VCDS-Lite to the Hex-V2 alternative which would cost me only $ 100.00 more ‘cause they credit the purchase of the LITE if we upgradeIf you plan to always have a Windows computer with a USB port, that's probably the one to get.? Just be sure you do something on your vehicle that registers the VIN so it will be one of the 3 included, such as "register" it when directly accessing a module. ? -- Duane 05HD Rialta 210K Miles |
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Objet : [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
Yves Desilets
开云体育So, Duane, if I understand correctly what you are saying, my cable would be the problem ? If so, would it be preferable to upgrade my VCDS-Lite to the Hex-V2 alternative which would cost me only $ 100.00 more ‘cause they credit the purchase of the LITE if we upgrade, or do you know the OBDeleven product ? What do you think of it ? Seems to be more intuitive but maybe cost more in terms of credits to do some specific work !!! ? Yves ? Envoyé à partir de pour Windows ? De?: Duane
Envoyé le?:10 septembre 2021 13:08 ??: [email protected] Objet?:Re: [eurovanupdate] Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC ? On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:43 AM, Yves Desilets wrote:
Third party cables are notoriously flakey.? Many are 'locked' to a certain, hacked version of VCDS.? There's a warning on the Ross Tech site that any problems are between you and the cable seller.? A real Ross-Tech cable performs flawlessly unless there are wiring/module problems.? I have 2 of them, a serial and a USB version, both ~15-20 years old, and have no problems with older vehicles like ours.? I don't need to use them on the newer cars that use UDS, so haven't upgraded. ? |
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Re: Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:43 AM, Yves Desilets wrote:
can detect almost 13 modules when doing a 'Full Scan'.Out of curiosity, what are the module addresses?? I can only come up with a list of 8 for a Eurovan, but I may be forgetting some. -- Duane 05HD Rialta 210K Miles |
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Re: Best Diagnostic tool to have for a 1997 EVC
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:43 AM, Yves Desilets wrote:
In fact, my 'third-party' cable is correct (kkl-409.1) and is made for a VW.Third party cables are notoriously flakey.? Many are 'locked' to a certain, hacked version of VCDS.? There's a warning on the Ross Tech site that any problems are between you and the cable seller.? A real Ross-Tech cable performs flawlessly unless there are wiring/module problems.? I have 2 of them, a serial and a USB version, both ~15-20 years old, and have no problems with older vehicles like ours.? I don't need to use them on the newer cars that use UDS, so haven't upgraded. -- Duane 05HD Rialta 210K Miles |
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Objet : [eurovanupdate] Disconnected tube ?
Yves Desilets
开云体育Can you show me what tube is supposed to be connected instead of that green cap ? I knew maybe there was Something wrong with with that small green cap too !!! Thanks. ? YVes ? Envoyé à partir de pour Windows ? De?: jasonb@..., mjwalker2001@..., via groups.io
Envoyé le?:7 septembre 2021 18:12 ??: [email protected] Objet?:Re: [eurovanupdate] Disconnected tube ? ? In the first picture, where the line is that has that small, green cap.? There's supposed to be a vacuum hose connected to that. ? |
Duane
rhodney
