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Re: Teach your children well.....

Michael G. McCarthy
 

An"awful" reaction to horrific? You mean you are in "awe" of your own
reaction? And "awe" is defined as a feeling of "reverence, fear and wonder
caused by something majestic, sublime, sacred, etc." Gosh....what kind of
"zombie" are YOU?

Perhaps that's not REALLY what you mean, and I suppose we all know that.
What we don't know -- or at least what I don't know -- is why you bother to
condemn great numbers of people's intelligence and moral character simply
because they have absorbed the jargon of the moment. You consider that
consistent with your dropping of "'blame' and ultimate judgement" from your
navigation paradigm?

Seriously, do you really think people using the word "horrific" are morons
who actually are thinking that they've just seen the most like totally
awesome video game ever, dude? Give people a break; not everyone is a poet.

Mike <--- promises to use "horrible" from now on, and to NEVER say "jumbo
shrimp"

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From: wiliam meyer <wmeyer@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: Teach your children well.....
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001, 8:43 PM


the clearest thing i have done is to drop "blame" and ultimate judgment
from my paradigm of "how to navigate the world in a positive manner".
these labels are a moral club we use to try and smite others (and
sometimes ourselves)
meanwhile:
i have an awful reaction to the work "horrific".
it is parroted endlessly and i suspect all who use it.
unfortunately for me i looked up "terrific" in the dictionary and it
does indeed refer to a negative event.
nevertheless, in modern times "terrific" connotes a positive thrill.
combining the two words seems to say "an exciting horror spectacle."
seeing this word used over and over causes me to doubt the level of
thought and original work done by all these glibly parroting or
incorporating this word. i really really have a problem with this word
and those who use it. i have a terrible suspicion of their intelligence.
it is used so frequently i am literally convinced that i am surrounded
by zombies. i'm really not kidding.



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Re: SELL AND BUY

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Anyone interested in a 93 weekender with 121k miles very good condition,
almost excellent? Everything works.

And, is anyone looking to part with a nearly new MV, 2001 or 2002, please let
me know.

By the way, do the new weekenders have AC in the rear or at least the middle?

Rob
Re: Teach your children well.....

wiliam meyer
 

the clearest thing i have done is to drop "blame" and ultimate judgment
from my paradigm of "how to navigate the world in a positive manner".
these labels are a moral club we use to try and smite others (and
sometimes ourselves)
meanwhile:
i have an awful reaction to the work "horrific".
it is parroted endlessly and i suspect all who use it.
unfortunately for me i looked up "terrific" in the dictionary and it
does indeed refer to a negative event.
nevertheless, in modern times "terrific" connotes a positive thrill.
combining the two words seems to say "an exciting horror spectacle."
seeing this word used over and over causes me to doubt the level of
thought and original work done by all these glibly parroting or
incorporating this word. i really really have a problem with this word
and those who use it. i have a terrible suspicion of their intelligence.
it is used so frequently i am literally convinced that i am surrounded
by zombies. i'm really not kidding.
Re: What Every person on the List Can Do

John Pelszynski
 

Yes Scott, driving by the Pentagon this morning was very unreal with
acrid smoke still pouring out of the building. I work for the Department
of Defense and I'm proud of the small part I play in the defense of our
country but I felt very helpless yesterday as I watched the Pentagon fires
burning out of control from my office window. But I can pray for the many
victims and their families, a couple of them I'm afraid are my friends. And
everyone else can pray and hope that our kids can live in a safer, more secure
and better world.



JP

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Re: Cheaper Parts

Christian R.
 

This is it.
thanks to all who posted.
Christian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Schellhase" <schellhase@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Cc: <drz400@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Cheaper Parts


I don't know if this is the link you were looking for,
check it out.




--- "Christian R." <drz400@...> wrote:
Please help,
I remember seeing a website here for parts 40 to 70 %
cheaper.
I struggled through the archives and couldn't find.

Can someone post it again ?
Thanks
Christian




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egr valve reset

Al Ferguson
 

Long time lurker, first time poster...
I know this has probably been addressed before but...
I would like to know if any of you good folks can tell
me how to check and reset (if required) the EGR light
on a 1997 Eurovan-Camper (VR6). On my late 80's
Vanagons it was a simple black box on the speedo cable
with a little hole to stick a pencil in - push the
pencil in and the button will make a click sound and
is reset. Had to do that every 30K if I remember
correctly. Heck if I can find a similar setup on this
Eurovan!
So here is the deal, at 48.8K (and change) the
"check-engine" light comes. It is running cool... I
pull over and check oil, leaks, water, etc. - all is
o.k. so I drive it to the dealership - Hueberger in
Colorado Springs, CO - they won't even look at it for
a
week :-/ (terrible service) So I set an appointment.
In the meantime I would like to check that EGR / OXY
to see if it is a simple reset until I can get it in
the shop. YES I WILL GET IT LOOKED AT. BTW - I just
had a smog test on it - passed with ease.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Al Ferguson

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Re: Cheaper Parts

Eckhard Rolz
 

www.expressautoparts.com has some parts for the EV. Don't know about the
quality, though.
Eckhard
Re: Cheaper Parts

Donald Hector
 

or just for comparison try www.altrom.com in canada . wheel cylinders for
my 94 were cheap
there.

don

-----Original Message-----
From: Eckhard Rolz <ichbinswieder@...>
To: ev_update@... <ev_update@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Cheaper Parts


www.expressautoparts.com has some parts for the EV. Don't know about the
quality, though.
Eckhard








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Re: Cheaper Parts

 

There's also HD Rogers in Bossier City, LA. They're
not VW-centric, but as another list member pointed out
(thanks for the lead, too, btw!), they have some
really good prices on some EV parts. I got a new
clutch assembly from them, and they were significantly
less than a lot of the parts suppliers around here.




Oh, there's also www.vwparts.com; I've gotten oil
filters from them, and they seem to be OK, too.

Norman
--- "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
wrote:
europarts-sd.com could be the one? also
busdepot.com

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From: "Christian R." <drz400@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: [ev_update] Cheaper Parts
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001, 3:20 PM


Please help,
I remember seeing a website here for parts 40 to 70
% cheaper.
I struggled through the archives and couldn't find.

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Re: The path we will choose.......

 

Oh, paleeeeaaasse, death is usually synonymous with war. I can tell you
from personal experience that the U.S. Military has always tried to prevent
so called "collateral damage", sometimes at even more risk for our soldiers
and airmen. If you want to teach your children something, tell them about
all the proud American men and women who have given their lives over our
history to protect daddy's right to express his opinion freely!.......

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] The path we will choose.......




I find it horrific that the former Secretary of State called the deaths
of
Iraqi children "collateral damage."

I surely agree with you on that James. I find the distinction between
civilians and soldiers sometimes just as horrific. My dad entered WWII at
age 17, missing his high school graduation. I've often heard the story of
how Grandpa (like other fathers of the day) picked up their sons diplomas
at
teary Commencements. Try to tell me a 17-year-old kid on fixing boilers
in
the belly an aircraft carrier is a "combatant." No less and no more than
Rosey the Riviter.

Likewise I still grimace thinking of the "Highway of Death" where some of
Hussein's 17-year-old conscripts tried to surrender, and some fought back,
and we killed them all. After all, they were "combatants." It's an ugly
ugly thing and no side has a monopoly of righteousness. Yes, the racist
attacks on US citizens with ancestors from the Persian Gulf have begun in
my
town, and in today's paper the letters to the editor included
bumper-stick-speak from a high school biology teacher: "Kill 'em all and
let
God sort it out." I suspect more parents will WANT that guy as their
kids'
teacher than would tell him to go to hell.

----------
From: "James H. McCarthy" <jimhmc@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] The path we will choose.......
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001, 1:38 PM


I am glad that so many people are outraged by the deaths of innocent
people.
I pray that our future actions, i.e. retaliations, will not cause more
innocent people to die. I find it horrific that the former Secretary of
State called the deaths of Iraqi children "collateral damage." Jim
McCarthy,
Somerville, MA, USA
Re: Cheaper Parts

Michael G. McCarthy
 

europarts-sd.com could be the one? also busdepot.com

----------
From: "Christian R." <drz400@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Subject: [ev_update] Cheaper Parts
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001, 3:20 PM


Please help,
I remember seeing a website here for parts 40 to 70 % cheaper.
I struggled through the archives and couldn't find.

Can someone post it again ?
Thanks
Christian




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Re: The path we will choose.......

Tom Wilds
 

I'm glad your dad made it through the war and led a good life. However, I
would remind you that at age 17, not only did he volunteer, he probably had
the blessing if his father. I have to assume he felt he was fighting for a
good cause so he signed up. I've always heard that the ground and other
support crews were just as important as those flying the planes. You do what
you have to do or are asked to do to combat the enemy.

Yes innocent people die during a war no matter how careful the military is.
It is a far cry from deliberate "Kamikaze" style attacks on downtown New
York where the only thing the people did was go to work.

I do not feel this is a time to over react, nor is it a time to simply turn
the other cheek.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] The path we will choose.......




I find it horrific that the former Secretary of State called the deaths
of
Iraqi children "collateral damage."

I surely agree with you on that James. I find the distinction between
civilians and soldiers sometimes just as horrific. My dad entered WWII at
age 17, missing his high school graduation. I've often heard the story of
how Grandpa (like other fathers of the day) picked up their sons diplomas
at
teary Commencements. Try to tell me a 17-year-old kid on fixing boilers
in
the belly an aircraft carrier is a "combatant." No less and no more than
Rosey the Riviter.

Likewise I still grimace thinking of the "Highway of Death" where some of
Hussein's 17-year-old conscripts tried to surrender, and some fought back,
and we killed them all. After all, they were "combatants." It's an ugly
ugly thing and no side has a monopoly of righteousness. Yes, the racist
attacks on US citizens with ancestors from the Persian Gulf have begun in
my
town, and in today's paper the letters to the editor included
bumper-stick-speak from a high school biology teacher: "Kill 'em all and
let
God sort it out." I suspect more parents will WANT that guy as their
kids'
teacher than would tell him to go to hell.

----------
From: "James H. McCarthy" <jimhmc@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] The path we will choose.......
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001, 1:38 PM


I am glad that so many people are outraged by the deaths of innocent
people.
I pray that our future actions, i.e. retaliations, will not cause more
innocent people to die. I find it horrific that the former Secretary of
State called the deaths of Iraqi children "collateral damage." Jim
McCarthy,
Somerville, MA, USA

pawelkepinski@... wrote:

I usually refrain from making political or moral statements in
public, especially when I am not directly asked for it.
However, as an International Relations and Conflict Resolution
professor who taught in Europe, Washington DC, and now in Portland OR
and as a researcher at Oregon Peace Institute,(OPI), allow me to
offer this thought:

"On this day of international crisis, we find ourselves at a
crossroads on the path of human development where two choices are
before us--pursuing revenge through death and destruction or choosing
the path of life and transformation.

Rather than seeking violent retribution against whole communities for
the actions of individuals, this is a time to work for tolerance and
understanding of the diversity within the human family. We, at OPI,
call upon everyone to use this crisis as an opportunity to
acknowledge and transform intra- and interpersonal relationships to
conflict.

It is though our emotional and spiritual development that we can
secure the peace of our planet. We invite all people to hold in
their hearts a positive vision for the future."

I hope that lesser thoughts of recipricating violence will leave us
forever. If not, the question someone asked here today "Why do they
hate us so much?" will still remain valid for a long time.

PEACE!
-Pawel Kepinski




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Re: Cheaper Parts

Larry Schellhase
 

I don't know if this is the link you were looking for,
check it out.




--- "Christian R." <drz400@...> wrote:
Please help,
I remember seeing a website here for parts 40 to 70 %
cheaper.
I struggled through the archives and couldn't find.

Can someone post it again ?
Thanks
Christian




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Cheaper Parts

Christian R.
 

Please help,
I remember seeing a website here for parts 40 to 70 % cheaper.
I struggled through the archives and couldn't find.

Can someone post it again ?
Thanks
Christian




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Re: The path we will choose.......

 

I've been looking for answers. The essay referenced by the link
below, "The Unknown Enemy", may give a fresh perspective on this
seemingly inexplicable disaster to those of unsatisfied with a
simplistic "solution" of retaliation that everyone is talking about.

On the one hand, it's easy to imagine the satisfaction of blackening
the skies of the mid east with huge clouds of U.S. aircraft, and then
creating a few craters in select areas. But when I put my emotions
aside and try to think this through, I can't help but wonder: will
this truly satisfy anyone? Or will it just make a huge problem
enormous?



Serge

--- In ev_update@y..., "James H. McCarthy" <jimhmc@m...> wrote:
I am glad that so many people are outraged by the deaths of
innocent people. I pray that our future actions, i.e.
retaliations, will not cause more innocent people to die.
Re: The path we will choose.......

 

"combatants." It's an ugly
ugly thing and no side has a monopoly of
righteousness. Yes, the racist
attacks on US citizens with ancestors from the
Persian Gulf have begun in my
town, and in today's paper the letters to the editor
included
bumper-stick-speak from a high school biology
teacher: "Kill 'em all and let
God sort it out." I suspect more parents will WANT

Well, there ya go, then, more proof that people are
more alike than they are different. It's too bad the
extremists give everyone else a bad name.

I'm guessing it was George Schultz with that
incredibly insensitive comment, huh?...

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Re: The path we will choose.......

Michael G. McCarthy
 

I find it horrific that the former Secretary of State called the deaths of
Iraqi children "collateral damage."

I surely agree with you on that James. I find the distinction between
civilians and soldiers sometimes just as horrific. My dad entered WWII at
age 17, missing his high school graduation. I've often heard the story of
how Grandpa (like other fathers of the day) picked up their sons diplomas at
teary Commencements. Try to tell me a 17-year-old kid on fixing boilers in
the belly an aircraft carrier is a "combatant." No less and no more than
Rosey the Riviter.

Likewise I still grimace thinking of the "Highway of Death" where some of
Hussein's 17-year-old conscripts tried to surrender, and some fought back,
and we killed them all. After all, they were "combatants." It's an ugly
ugly thing and no side has a monopoly of righteousness. Yes, the racist
attacks on US citizens with ancestors from the Persian Gulf have begun in my
town, and in today's paper the letters to the editor included
bumper-stick-speak from a high school biology teacher: "Kill 'em all and let
God sort it out." I suspect more parents will WANT that guy as their kids'
teacher than would tell him to go to hell.

----------
From: "James H. McCarthy" <jimhmc@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] The path we will choose.......
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001, 1:38 PM


I am glad that so many people are outraged by the deaths of innocent people.
I pray that our future actions, i.e. retaliations, will not cause more
innocent people to die. I find it horrific that the former Secretary of
State called the deaths of Iraqi children "collateral damage." Jim
McCarthy,
Somerville, MA, USA

pawelkepinski@... wrote:

I usually refrain from making political or moral statements in
public, especially when I am not directly asked for it.
However, as an International Relations and Conflict Resolution
professor who taught in Europe, Washington DC, and now in Portland OR
and as a researcher at Oregon Peace Institute,(OPI), allow me to
offer this thought:

"On this day of international crisis, we find ourselves at a
crossroads on the path of human development where two choices are
before us--pursuing revenge through death and destruction or choosing
the path of life and transformation.

Rather than seeking violent retribution against whole communities for
the actions of individuals, this is a time to work for tolerance and
understanding of the diversity within the human family. We, at OPI,
call upon everyone to use this crisis as an opportunity to
acknowledge and transform intra- and interpersonal relationships to
conflict.

It is though our emotional and spiritual development that we can
secure the peace of our planet. We invite all people to hold in
their hearts a positive vision for the future."

I hope that lesser thoughts of recipricating violence will leave us
forever. If not, the question someone asked here today "Why do they
hate us so much?" will still remain valid for a long time.

PEACE!
-Pawel Kepinski




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Re: The path we will choose.......

James H. McCarthy
 

I am glad that so many people are outraged by the deaths of innocent people.
I pray that our future actions, i.e. retaliations, will not cause more
innocent people to die. I find it horrific that the former Secretary of
State called the deaths of Iraqi children "collateral damage." Jim McCarthy,
Somerville, MA, USA

pawelkepinski@... wrote:

I usually refrain from making political or moral statements in
public, especially when I am not directly asked for it.
However, as an International Relations and Conflict Resolution
professor who taught in Europe, Washington DC, and now in Portland OR
and as a researcher at Oregon Peace Institute,(OPI), allow me to
offer this thought:

"On this day of international crisis, we find ourselves at a
crossroads on the path of human development where two choices are
before us--pursuing revenge through death and destruction or choosing
the path of life and transformation.

Rather than seeking violent retribution against whole communities for
the actions of individuals, this is a time to work for tolerance and
understanding of the diversity within the human family. We, at OPI,
call upon everyone to use this crisis as an opportunity to
acknowledge and transform intra- and interpersonal relationships to
conflict.

It is though our emotional and spiritual development that we can
secure the peace of our planet. We invite all people to hold in
their hearts a positive vision for the future."

I hope that lesser thoughts of recipricating violence will leave us
forever. If not, the question someone asked here today "Why do they
hate us so much?" will still remain valid for a long time.

PEACE!
-Pawel Kepinski




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Rubber Floor mats

Paul Blanchette
 

Got the rubber floor mats from MacNiel WeatherTech. They fit OK but are not custom fit. I think I'll give them to my mom for her 99 Buick. They fit better in her car. I'm glad I ordered original VW ones from Eurocampers.
Rubber floor mats seem so irrellevant after yesterdays attacks on the US. Here in New England I'm use to hearing and seeing planes overhead going to and from Europe and now its silent. What a weird feeling. My heart goes out to all the victims and their families and God Bless America.
Paul
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Re: Cheaper Parts

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Call Steve at Europarts at 1-858-451-0020 for prices much better than VW. I
don't know if this is what you mean by cheap but they saved me almost $200
off of a $500 part.

Rob
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