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Not that I know anything about this, but what year is your van?

Sorry...it's a '93 GL.

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Bill Salopek
ICQ: 20536257
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Rick:

I broke off my driver's side mirror a couple years ago.? The term "breakaway mirror" is rather misleading.? Break-off is perhaps more correct.? Anyway, the housing and mirror are separate.? If you have the electric controlled mirror, you also have a heated mirror.? The glass part is over $100.? Don't know what a standard piece of glass will cost you.? The housing was about $150, plus labor and I was all set for about $300.? I was stunned.

Oddly enough, I broke off the passenger side mirror two weekends ago after ending up in a muddy ditch.? The housing is shot, but the glass is OK.? I've got a new housing on order.? It mounts pretty simply with three maching screws.? The glass sticks on (literally) as the last step.

You might be able to locate a replacement mirror from other parts suppliers.? I'd call around.

Good luck,
David

At last Service I had 166655 on my 93 Eurovan second owner

Has anyone get a tire pressure chart for Michelin Agilis 51.
205/65/R15C
Side wall info is Max load 1,875 lb at 54 PSI
I would like to see the chart for different load.
Camper 97 EVC has a curb weight of 5,235 lb. and a GVRW of 5,997 lb.
So, about 1,500 lb. per tire at full weight (assuming even distribution
of weight)
My actual EVC weight is more like 5,700 lb or (1,425 per tire)
I do not know actual weight on each axle.
Thank you
Claude, 97 EVC

leon-@... wrote:

Not that I know anything about this, but what year is your van?

Thanks much.

Leon Webster
'97 EVC

original article:

Kind of a sad story:

1) Today I replaced the oil, oil filter, air filter, and fuel filter

(I

still smell like gas <g>).

2) I'm having a pretty good day as I finish up before supper.

3) I go to start the van to put it back in it's place in the garage,
and the battery is dead...it's been weak-ish for a couple months,
probably needs replaced soon, but I figure I'll just jump it.

Here's where it gets interesting:

4) I have a 12-volt "deep cycle" battery in the garage that we use

for

our pop-up camper...I figure I'll just grab my jumper cables and jump
from this battery to the van.

5) I hook up the pos and neg to the deep cycle battery, and then the
pos to the van's battery, and the neg to an obvious looking piece of
metal against the dash...I think it's a brace of somekind for the
windshield wipers.

6) I take about 3 seconds and jump into the driver's seat and get

ready

to turn the key, and LOTS of smoke starts pouring out of the front of
the firewall in the engine compartment...kind of in the center, just

to

the right of the power brake booster...I jump out of the driver's seat
and disconnect the jumper cables...the cables were probably on there

for

a total of 10 seconds...maybe less.

7) As I stand outside the van, looking at the slowly dissapating

(sp?)

smoke, I notice that it's also coming out thru all the vents INSIDE

the

van as well.

So right now, I'm afraid to touch the thing...though when my wife got
home, we did try a jump from our Galant, I hooked up the cables and my
wife IMMEDIATELY turned the key in the van...nothing happened...no
cranking, no smoke...those cables were connected for about 3 seconds
because I didn't know why the same thing might not happen again, even
though THIS time was a very "normal" jump, and I've did a bunch of

jumps

with great success with other vehicles...i.e...NO SMOKE <g>.

The battery is measuring 7 volts...I'm wondering if it is SO dead that
when I hooked up that deep cycle battery, the van's battery (or
something else in the van?), drew SO MUCH current, that something
started to melt/burn.

I'm going to have it towed tomorrow (Tuesday) to a VW place and have
them look at it.

I hope I didn't fry anything inside the dash...and I hope the smell

goes

away soon.

So anybody have a clue as to why the battery won't accept a "normal"
jump?

Why it's apparently drawing so much current (sparks fly whenever I

hook

up a charging source to it) that it's frying parts of the dash?

Anybody have an experience like this?

Thanks...

--

Bill Salopek
ICQ: 20536257
No worries...
Business:
Home:

At 12:41 AM 9/14/1999 -0600, you wrote:

Kind of a sad story:

1) Today I replaced the oil, oil filter, air filter, and fuel filter (I
still smell like gas <g>).

2) I'm having a pretty good day as I finish up before supper.

3) I go to start the van to put it back in it's place in the garage,
and the battery is dead...it's been weak-ish for a couple months,
probably needs replaced soon, but I figure I'll just jump it.

Here's where it gets interesting:

4) I have a 12-volt "deep cycle" battery in the garage that we use for
our pop-up camper...I figure I'll just grab my jumper cables and jump
from this battery to the van.

5) I hook up the pos and neg to the deep cycle battery, and then the
pos to the van's battery, and the neg to an obvious looking piece of
metal against the dash...I think it's a brace of somekind for the
windshield wipers.

6) I take about 3 seconds and jump into the driver's seat and get ready
to turn the key, and LOTS of smoke starts pouring out of the front of
the firewall in the engine compartment...kind of in the center, just to
the right of the power brake booster...I jump out of the driver's seat
and disconnect the jumper cables...the cables were probably on there for
a total of 10 seconds...maybe less.

7) As I stand outside the van, looking at the slowly dissapating (sp?)
smoke, I notice that it's also coming out thru all the vents INSIDE the
van as well.

So right now, I'm afraid to touch the thing...though when my wife got
home, we did try a jump from our Galant, I hooked up the cables and my
wife IMMEDIATELY turned the key in the van...nothing happened...no
cranking, no smoke...those cables were connected for about 3 seconds
because I didn't know why the same thing might not happen again, even
though THIS time was a very "normal" jump, and I've did a bunch of jumps
with great success with other vehicles...i.e...NO SMOKE <g>.

The battery is measuring 7 volts...I'm wondering if it is SO dead that
when I hooked up that deep cycle battery, the van's battery (or
something else in the van?), drew SO MUCH current, that something
started to melt/burn.

I'm going to have it towed tomorrow (Tuesday) to a VW place and have
them look at it.

I hope I didn't fry anything inside the dash...and I hope the smell goes
away soon.

So anybody have a clue as to why the battery won't accept a "normal"
jump?

Why it's apparently drawing so much current (sparks fly whenever I hook
up a charging source to it) that it's frying parts of the dash?

Anybody have an experience like this?

Thanks...

Dear Bill,

Why not disconnect the battery from the vehicle and put it on a regular
battery charger? That has to be cheaper than calling for a tow truck...

The problem you have may well be an intermittent short(s) which is
draining your battery. Obviously the smoke generator(s) is near the fresh
air intake for your heating system.

One hint in tracking down the short is to look for scorch marks and/or
melted wiring. There may be more than one short. I had the problem you
described in a newly purchased used airplane once. We found 3 shorts
before we were done, one in the landing gear system. When we tracked down
all of the shorts most of the navigation equipment suddenly worked a lot
better. Two weeks before we had spent almost $2000 at an avionics shop
trying to get these same radios to work better.

I would definitely remove the covers above and below the steering wheel,
and the bus bar cover and base and pull out the panel and check behind it
for burned wire(S).

Reg

Jesse:

this is a good question. The furnace does run off propane but the blower runs
off the deep cycle battery. So, even though you could run 36 hours on a tank
of propane, you would have to start the engine and charge up the battery as
the deep cycle will never go this long with the blower (unless you had some
killer battery that I don't).

Our 95 has the original deep cycle and before this winter I'm going to put in
a new one and I suspect I will get better performance. On the old battery,
however, you could go to bed on a cold night, (and I mean down near 0) and
let the furnace cycle on and off and by 5:00 the volts are down to 9 on the
battery and the furnace sounds a bit lethargic. Once you start the engine and
let it go a little bit things are find again.

The "procedure" that is described to prime the system, we found didnt' work
very well. Instead, we just light the stove first and then the furnace. This
seems to work fine. All in all, from two part time ski instructors who spent
every weekend last winter in the van at about 9000 feet, we give it a big
thumbs up.

Good luck,
Sue

I bought one from Go Westy as well, but it's definitely not the best quality
(it was falling a part after first month). When I tried to get it fixed
talking with manufacture I could not succeed without help from Go Westy. So
after all I got an impression that Greg (if I remember his name right) at Go
Westy is a really good guy, but those people who make those bras do not care
much about anything.

I heard you can get a better one from VW, but that will cost more (I paid
for this one something just over $100, if I remember right). So after all
you are getting what you are paying for I guess.

On the top of that I do not think it's a good idea to put it on unless you
are going on some nasty roads (as I did this last summer in Yukon and
Alaska). I'm sure on a good roads it will do more damage than protection to
the paint.

Severin.



At 09:03 PM 9/13/99 -0700, you wrote:

I got a great one for my 99 EVC from GO Westy a vender I found on the
Vanagon.com web site.

Thanks Greg,

I thought they only delt with Westys, but I'll give 'em a call.

Russ

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Severin Daniel Chayka
@ PCI Energy Services.

Kind of a sad story:

1) Today I replaced the oil, oil filter, air filter, and fuel filter (I
still smell like gas <g>).

2) I'm having a pretty good day as I finish up before supper.

3) I go to start the van to put it back in it's place in the garage,
and the battery is dead...it's been weak-ish for a couple months,
probably needs replaced soon, but I figure I'll just jump it.

Here's where it gets interesting:

4) I have a 12-volt "deep cycle" battery in the garage that we use for
our pop-up camper...I figure I'll just grab my jumper cables and jump
from this battery to the van.

5) I hook up the pos and neg to the deep cycle battery, and then the
pos to the van's battery, and the neg to an obvious looking piece of
metal against the dash...I think it's a brace of somekind for the
windshield wipers.

6) I take about 3 seconds and jump into the driver's seat and get ready
to turn the key, and LOTS of smoke starts pouring out of the front of
the firewall in the engine compartment...kind of in the center, just to
the right of the power brake booster...I jump out of the driver's seat
and disconnect the jumper cables...the cables were probably on there for
a total of 10 seconds...maybe less.

7) As I stand outside the van, looking at the slowly dissapating (sp?)
smoke, I notice that it's also coming out thru all the vents INSIDE the
van as well.

So right now, I'm afraid to touch the thing...though when my wife got
home, we did try a jump from our Galant, I hooked up the cables and my
wife IMMEDIATELY turned the key in the van...nothing happened...no
cranking, no smoke...those cables were connected for about 3 seconds
because I didn't know why the same thing might not happen again, even
though THIS time was a very "normal" jump, and I've did a bunch of jumps
with great success with other vehicles...i.e...NO SMOKE <g>.

The battery is measuring 7 volts...I'm wondering if it is SO dead that
when I hooked up that deep cycle battery, the van's battery (or
something else in the van?), drew SO MUCH current, that something
started to melt/burn.

I'm going to have it towed tomorrow (Tuesday) to a VW place and have
them look at it.

I hope I didn't fry anything inside the dash...and I hope the smell goes
away soon.

So anybody have a clue as to why the battery won't accept a "normal"
jump?

Why it's apparently drawing so much current (sparks fly whenever I hook
up a charging source to it) that it's frying parts of the dash?

Anybody have an experience like this?

Thanks...

--

Bill Salopek
ICQ: 20536257
No worries...
Business:
Home:

With all this talk about fuel line problems, I went out and did an
inspection my fuel lines.? All appears to be OK with them, not a drip.?
Although there seems to be some seepage of some sort, around the injector to
manifold seals.? One thing that I did note, that may or may not shed some
light on the problem.? The exhaust manifold gasket, on the cylinder closest
to the fuel lines, is leaking.? The exhaust gasses are blowing right onto
the heater hose.? The hose is already brittle so I assume that this has been
leaking for some time, although you can barely tell by the amount of noise.?
I wonder if it will eventually lead to the common fuel line problem.? With
an inspection mirror you can see the gasket is clearly blowing out from
under the manifold.? The van has 80k miles on it and is almost 8 years old.?
I suppose that can happen, the gasket is about 90 cents, the labor?? Anybody
have any ideas?
Chris Noeske [mailto: chrisn@...]
Project Engineer
Electroimpact, Inc.
4606 107th St SW,? Mukilteo, WA? 98275-4706

Russ, could you paleeeeze rename the SUBJECT next time?? Thank you very much.

Russ Bishop wrote:

Thill, Irene, Suzanne, Dallas,

In the future, could you please rename the SUBJECT more accurately? Thank you
very much.

"Thill, Irene, Suzanne, Dallas" wrote:

Here's an example of a site you could use:

I got a great one for my 99 EVC from GO Westy a vender I found on the
Vanagon.com web site.

Thanks Greg,

I thought they only delt with Westys, but I'll give 'em a call.

Russ

Russ,

I got a great one for my 99 EVC from GO Westy a vender I found on the
Vanagon.com web site.

Greg Barta
Anchorage, AK

Russ Bishop wrote:

Greetings All,

Does anyone know of any place to get a bra for a 99 EVC? I just called the
dealer and they said they don't have them. I also checked with Bus Depot and
they carry one for the 95 EVC, but said that the front of the vehicle has
changed since then and it won't work on the 99 model.

Thanks for any info.

Russ Bishop
Ventura, CA

My positive expierences with VW:
I registered my complaint with the NHTSA and hope everyone will do so.
I guess we need to let them know that we won't give up. It is sad that
VW reacts this way, because my experience thus far has been very
positive. I have had two experiences with VW.

1. Two years before the heater cores on the Jetta were recalled I had
changed a leaking one on my Jetta. When the recall arrived I had it
done, but also wrote to VW complaining that I had spent a lot of
money--two years prior to that--on an obviously faulty heater core.
They asked me for a receipt of the part (which I had kept) and the labor
performed. Since I had put it in myself (no fun) I did not have a
receipt, but I informed them that I had done the work and that my time
is also worth something. A few weeks later I got a check for the $85 of
the core and $120 for labor. I was impressed.

2. Last February I tried to pop out the radiator on my 93 EV. (I had
done this several times before). I pulled on that handle on top of the
big black bar, which is attached to the radiator by two rubber pieces.
I pulled and suddenly one of the rubber pieces broke, causing the heavy
metal bar to hit my forehead. The blow caused a 2 in laceration. I
went to the ER and got stitched up. Then I took pictures of the part,
the entire van, and my ugly swollen forehead and sent them to VW,
blaming their poor design for my injuries and requesting compensation.
I also contacted every product liability lawyer in the area. Not one of
them was willing to take on VW. Well, a few weeks later I received a
letter asking me to explain what I consider fair compensation. I
thought a 99EV, but they did not go for that. I then asked for three
times the amount of my medical bills, (which is permissible under NC
law) and they counter-offered to simply pay all my bills, as a good will
gesture, even though 80% was covered by insurance. I received a check
for almost $750--no forms or disclaimers to sign. I suppose I could
still sue them.

I think it is important to do the complaining in writing since anything
they write can be used against them. I will send a letter explaining
the situation and the possible dangers, and hope that they will respond
positively. I am probably on a black list and can never ever buy a new
VW. I would also like to know if the same problem exists in Germany and
other European countries, where the Caravelle is the #1 selling van. I
just don't know how I could find out, or who keeps track of complaints
and problems in Germany.

On another web site I learned about hidden warranties--when there is no
official recall, but the dealers fix the problem for free, if you tell
them you know about the hidden warranty. Dealers don't like this since
VW pays them much less than they would charge us. Well I hope the
problem will be resolved soon.
Eckhard

In a message dated 09/13/1999 9:29:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
russ@... writes:

<< Does anyone know of any place to get a bra for a 99 EVC? >>

Here is a link to Perfect Fit. I believe you can get either a black one of a
color match.



Good Luck,

Rolland
99 Weekender

How much do you want for your 1987 Westy???

We're asking $9500 OBO. It's in excellent condition inside and out with all
service records. It has 190,000 highway miles, and I've run Castol 20/50
every 2500 miles since day one. Extras include a premium CD system w/JBL,
full tint, custom bra, Yakima racks for skis and bikes.

Russ Bishop
Ventura, CA

In a message dated 09/13/1999 9:52:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
rgolen@... writes:

<< deal with your insurance company >>

This might not be so bad of an idea. The following is a problem that
happened to a friend and client over 10 years ago. I posted this same
message to the New Beetle email list, so Richard, sorry for the duplicate.
If anyone has any questions please feel free to email me.

My friend was traveling down the freeway in his Renault Alliance when all of
a sudden the interior was filled with steam which caused him to drive off the
road. What had happened was the heater core was defective on this car (it
didn't have that many miles on it). He has some minor medical bills from the
hot water or steam, some damage to the car from driving off the road and some
interior cleaning. He turned in the claim, we paid the damages and medical
bills and we were all happy it didn't end up much worse. A few months later
Judy read in a magazine that these cars were being recalled for this exact
thing. We took a copy of the article, sent it to our claims office and they
subrogated to Renault. Renault paid for all damages and I am thinking the
total bill for everything was something near $3,000.

As for Richard's case, everything you can dig up that shows a problem exists
is just more ammunition for your case. I know most engine fires are not that
cheap to repair so I would definately share all the information with your
insurance company.

Hope this helps anyone dealing with a simular problem.


Rolland
99 Weekender