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Freeze up of rear brakes is common problem on the EV. I've locked mine in
cold weather on at laest two occasions. Try to avoid using the parking brake
when you know they are wet and it will sit overnight in cold weather.
Ron

The best TV sighting I saw was a EuroVan Camper in the updated Disney
"Herbie" movie. How about a new "Herbie" movie based on the New Beetle that
has a EuroVan pal that tows it to the racetrack. What a great promotion it
would be for both!
Ron

I'm a 1997 Eurovan owner and I just found out about the ev_update list. How do I get on it?
Thanks.

3smiths@...

In a message dated 10/28/1999 4:38:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Beaumont.Vance@... writes:

Obviously this is a sly new marketing campaign by VW. At least the EV's are
getting *some* air time ;-)

I think about VW's EV non-marketing every time I see overly repeated
broadcast ads for Ford's new Focus or other mass marketed vehicles. Why
doesn't VW advertise the EVC, or at the very least, the EV?

In the past, knowing that one day I would have to replace my old van with
something new, I had dismissed the VW Bus Camper as inconveniently small. I
was considering building a new van camper similar to my old one, hoping to be
able to install a popup roof to achieve a garageable vehicle with stand up
room. However, a year ago, while browsing through an old (1991) Rand McNally
Road Atlas, I came across the informative, full page, ad for the 1990 VW
Westfalia. It highlighted its versatility, including not only a campsite
photo, but demonstrating that it fits in a standard garage as well. Part of
the text reads, "Think of the Camper as part mini-van, part limousine, part
pick-up truck and part recreational vehicle and you'll understand what we
mean by versatile." That ad led me to an Internet search which ultimately
brought me to this mailing list, the crown jewel of EuroVan informative data.
I will say one thing for VW advertising; considering the road I am heading
down now, a single ad sure goes a long way!

Bill Armstrong, EVC Speculator
'71 Econoline (home brew camper)
'93 Tracer Wagon

The Eurovan's gauges, (water, Fuel) goes bad after a few years, the
only thing what have to be replaced is a $10 dollar resistor in the
back of the gauges. It has 3 legs, a small black square resistor.
Someone could also locate this resistor in an electrical store for $1.
It worked for me!!

Also be very carefull for the water sensors. There is one sensing the
water level, and one for the water temperature. For me the water level
didnt work and it costed me a 1700 dollar used engine, because the
engine overheated, after the water pump failed. Also don't use regular
water for coolant without anti-freeze, becaue regular water eats up all
your aluminium parts after a while. Andy xtassy@...

I bought my 93 EVMVWK in Jan 96 as the third owner and 23K on it. I
went over it with a fine tooth comb and had as much fixed on the 2 year
24K warranty as possible. It was put in service March 94. I asked the
dealer then about the pistons and they said they knew nothing about it.
A pastor I talked to said he had his done at the same dealer at 35K and
it was much quiter and stronger. He recommended I bug them to have it
done. His was leased and they might get it back.

That same winter when it dipped to -30 or more the van would not start.
I added the block heater and fuel heat but no help. Finally after the
world warmed up 6 days later the van started with a big crack! I
thought I broke something major. After that the pistons started
knocking worse and it sounded like a diesel.

By Nov 96, @ 29K and a good VW rep visit later for some other items,
the dealer service rep that new nothing about the pistons, fixed
another one, Mine.
The VW rep said get it done before your 5 /50k runs out.

After replacing with a new design he showed me the old ones that had to
be shipped back to VW. The shoulders of the pistons were wore down on
two sides on all five, a couple worse than the others. Even he could
not believe how bad they were. He said none of the others vans were
that bad. HA! so there was more!

The new design has a rounded top rather than concaved and it changed
the compresion a little. I recall the tac running a 1000 slower at 60.
3 years and 24K later it has been better, smoother and quieter.

Mine is engine code AAF and Tranny CGK. Hope I have better luck with
the Tranny than some of you.

Yegs,
Rather be sleeping in my VW than driving a GM!

At 11:04 AM -0600 10/29/99, Vance, Beaumont W. wrote:

Q: why and who would put butane in the tank?

A: my understanding is that Butane is a more efficient and hotter burning
gas. It appears that VW/Winnie believes that all camping is done in the
summer (hence the single choice of white.) I have been told that in warmer
climates propane tanks are filled with a propane/butane mixture. I would
guess that Winnebago puts the butane in (if it is indeed butane.)

I've heard that butane is added to propane during summer months, but i've not sure
if its done everywhere. the problem with butane is that it doesn't burn below 32F - those
with butane stoves may have noticed this on really cold mornings (back in those backpacking
days!)
When I bought the '95, it was up to the VW dealer to purge the tank of (possible) water and
bring all the systems up to snuff. Even then, some dealers were better at it than others
it seems. I doubt that VW would be shipping vans from Iowa loaded with propane, but then
you never know.

-rick

The Eurovan's gauges, (water, Fuel) goes bad after a few years, the
only thing what have to be replaced is a $10 dollar resistor in the
back of the gauges. It has 3 legs, a small black square resistor.
Someone could also locate this resistor in an electrical store for $1.

Actually, I believe the part in question is a voltage regulator, and in our case, the solder joint was bad. Reheat/add solder and you're ready to go.

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Is it true that there were only 500 93 EV MV's with the weekender
package in the USA. Has anyone else heard that? It is my
understanding that Canada recieved some 92's and 94's with the Westi
top. Did Canada also receive any syncro's?

Is it possible to order a new EVMVWK in canada and bring it across the
boarder. With the exchange rate/taxes would it be cost effective?

I read that the gas heaters are an option and that the block heaters
are included. I would consider a new one with the heater on a timer if
VW still has that feature in Canada. My 86 Vanagon Syncro book shows
that option and it seems like it would be nice to have for our winters
in WI. Getting into a warmed up van when it is -40 outside would be a
treat after work.

I have added the VW block heater ($85) to my 93 5cyl. Don't know if it
really helps or not though. It is an electric element incased in a
molten pour of aluminum that you bolt to the block and run the cord out
by the tie down hook. I also added an electric battery blanket and I
think that helps the most.

Bought a couple jugs of the new Prestone 5 year longlife antifreeze. I
see it is phosphate free like VW calls for. Any tips on the best way
to flush and refill? I usally swap the heater regulator valve and the
kit hose hook up piece to flush and fill then swap back. Is that
doable on this EV? It has not been changed since the pistons were
changed a couple years ago. Worth doing?

Yegs - getting winterized in WI.

Steve,

Sorry to tell you the bad news, but you are going to have to fix this.
Its not going to go away. The good news, is that it isn't going to be
that hard - the 2.5L engine is a SOHC engine design and everything is
easy to get at. If you haven't replaced the timing belt, you'll get it
done when you get this done.

WARNING: be careful about using the coolant leak sealing stuff. I
used it when my Supra had started to loose the headgasket - I ment this
to be a temp solution. The problem with using this stuff is that it
can clog the radiator and/or heater core. I had to pull the radiator
and have it cleaned. I never cleaned the heater core because it would
have been a nightmare to pull it out from under the dash. For the EV,
you are also risking the rear heater core as well. When the heater
core's get clogged, you don't get much heat out... If you have to use
the stuff, isolate the heater lines. That way you are only circulating
the stuff in the engine and radiator.

If you do the work yourself, you'll save quite a bit, enough to maybe
have the head rebuilt. (Don't forget to have the head checked to
verify it has not warped, its easily corrected)

Good luck
Jerry

sklashle-@... wrote:
original article:

I've been told that my '93 EV MV has a head gasket leak.

It can't be very large as we only need to add coolant about once a

month, and

then it is only an inch or so below the fill line. It is leaking on

the

outside of the block with no indication that there is any compression

going

into the cooling system, or any antifreeze getting into the oil

I hate to spend the money to replace the head gasket, and I'm

thinking of

adding stop leak or bars leak to see if that will fix it.

I understand that it is SOP to add stop leak to some engines on the

assembly

line to make sure they seal properly.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
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314-614-0750
Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other

Accessories for

Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan

I ordered some parts from John's Westside Auto Parts in Oregon
(800-230-8112)
steve@... (Johns Imports - Steve)
and was told that they had recently acquired a 93 EV. Did anyone on the list
lose this van? I am curious about the transmission, which might be the right
one for mine.
Eckhard

Many EV's came with aux rear heaters. EvC's came with a gas fired
furnace. But they all have these plastic lines. The books say that the
fuel tank and the torsion bar has to be removed to fix this correctly.
If (and when) this happends another way to fix it might be to find some
rubber heater hose and just bypass the plastic lines completely. Not
turning the valve on will prevent flow to the rear core but it will not
remove the pressure to it that casues the leaks.

Try Tynans on Havana and McDonalds on Broadway. They usually have a lot of
MV's

A few years ago, shortly after moving from a vanagon with head gasket
problems to a 93 EV mv, I thought I had a head gasket leak. What a
bummer I thought! Will I ever have a Vw van with good heat and no
leaks!!!!

The answer was YES! It was not a head gasket leak!

There was a small, almost seepage like leak on the drivers end of the
engine, apparently right at the joint between the head and block - the
head gasket!
But after I had bought the leak sealer (my last resort) I found that it
was really the small, plastic, heater connection just above the joint
between the head and block! HA HA HA There is a god!!!!

OK, the repair. This is a plastic manifold type part that has two hose
connections. It is held to the block with a single funny bolt. That was
part of the problem, if there had been two bolts it would not have
cracked/broken/leaked. This part had cracked and then allowed the
o-ring to loose the seal. The best part was that the local dealer
actually had the part in stock and I only had to leave one of my
children there as a down payment. No, really the part was less then $20.

So lyn: check this area very closely! Them germermans are tricky dudes!

Quoting the Washington Post classified of 29 October,
'93 Eurovan MV, ABS, 48k mi., Dark Blue, very good condition, call
703-448-9865"

I know nothing about this vehicle or its owner.

Bob

Gary,

>> I got a $115 quote but complained
>> that Costco sold them for 89...dealer
>> sold mine at $95 apiece and I hope to
>> get the free emergency kit too...

I wound up paying $107 for the Agilis 51's from a local independent Michelin
dealer. As far as I was concerned, I preferred to deal with a competent
dealer who had quality personnel. I've had nothing but problems in past
dealings with our local Tire America (now National Tire & Battery),
especially with their constantly changing workmen who continually exhibited
total indifference and incompetence.

In any event, I first asked about the Michelin Agilis while I was getting
new tires on my wife's Honda Civic last spring, and they immediately replied
that I must have a VW EuroVan. Amazing --- they knew the vehicle and said
it would only take 2-3 days to get the Agilis tires when I was ready. After
returning from this past summer's vacation, we were definitely ready. The
order took 2 days to arrive.

Even though they charge a few dollars more than some of the large chains,
they are very careful when mounting the wheels --- the lug nuts are final
HAND TIGHTENED with a torque wrench to proper torque, instead of the typical
overtightening done by most places with those air wrenches. They also
provide free tire rotation every 5000 miles for the life of the tires.
And... they're pleasant to deal with.

Name of the tire dealer if any of you ever need tire service if you're in
the area (Asheville, NC) is Jan Davis Tire Store. I'd recommend them
highly.

Also, that free emergency kit from MIchelin is very nice. We got ours a few
weeks ago and its definitely a quality kit --- not at all like the typical
cheesy freebies that most corporations give away as bonus gifts.

Sheldon
'97 EVC

I replaced the G64s with the reinforced Continental CT22R's 205/65-15
1700 LB load. They are a lot more quite and give a softer ride. The
traction appears good and no hydroplaning. These were ordered from
Tire Rack through Tires Plus. $69 each plus life time rotation and
balancing.I have noticed that they howl when cornering sharply.

Have not seen or road on the Mich. My dad is running 4 firestone
infinitreads 205/65-15 and those are great. They are not reinforced
1400 load so I did not go with them but he has not had any problems,
Yet! He said those handled great on glare ice last year.

Yegs

Hi , I am still waiting for VWoA to deliver our LWB Transporter, now
due 15th November and then a few more weeks wait for the camping

Hi, Ray

So, can you smell your new EV TDI yet? ;) I certainly hope your "VWoA" is better than our "VWoA"! Let us know when it lands in your driveway, I'd be interested in reading your thoughts about it.

Norman
'93 EV MV
'00 Golf GLS TDI

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Hi , I am still waiting for VWoA to deliver our LWB Transporter, now
due 15th November and then a few more weeks wait for the camping
conversion, if anyone is looking for information on the diesel 5cyl
102hp Tdi I have collected feel free to contact me .
Ray 89 transporter.

This is beginning to sound like a common problem. My 30K service will be
due soon and I will have them look at it again and explain that several
people have this problem..

Alex
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