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From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of TYA2
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:15 PM
To: ev_update@...
Cc: rialta-tech@...
Subject: [ev_update] Interference fit engine & head damage ???





Ok tech experts here is the tough $$$ question. I know that some of you
on the list have the experience of having a timing belt fail and getting
into engine problems. I am looking for information on what happened to
you and how things worked out. This question is not knocking the VW
products, because the engine was in a GM Korea produced Chevy Aveo (4
cylinder 1.6 L gas engine,) Basic scenario at about 40,000 miles on the
odometer.Friday night last he was driving at 60 mph on I-5 north of Seattle
Washington when he lost power in 5th gear, tried shifting down to 4 but
basically the engine died and he coasted to the side of the highway. I
know all this because I was following him in a rental car about 6 car
lengths back. The engine would not start, so we had the vehicle towed to
Everett Chevrolet. Saturday morning the dealer said it must be a timing
belt, I have no mechanic until Monday. It should be an easy job. We
continued back to Canada 900 miles further away. Monday morning I was
told yes it is a timing belt but we have no idea why it failed, there
should be no internal damage. $300. Monday afternoon we were told the
timing belt failed because the tensioner was broken. (one is now
ordered). Tuesday afternoon we were told the head is damaged. (16 valve
engine). The estimate is another $2000.00.... This car had no warranty
it expired at 3 years, 36,000 miles.

Here are my concerns what are the chances the rest of the engine is
TOAST? Even if we change the head and the pistons have no marks on them
what are chance the bits of valves are not going to destroy the engine once
it is put back together? I can do an oil change but are their bits of
debris that won't come out?

I know some of you have done the damaged timing belt, damaged valves and
head scenarios in VWs, what did you decide to do? What would you do?

I can buy a complete factory reman for $4000 or get engines out of wreckers
for 800 to 1400, with installation at about $500. The issues with this
car, is it my son's transportation, we live near Edmonton, Canada, and he
goes to college south of Seattle. We aren't really interested in
warranty, we are interested in reliability. Do we get the car fixed in
Washington, or bring it back to Canada and get the work done here?

Even U-haul is a hassle, they won't rent a tow dolly, they say I need an
auto trailer (ground clearance issues). They won't rent me a pick up
truck to tow a car with and they won't rent me a cube van because I am a
foreigner (so when did being a white Canadian male be such a big
deal?) I mean the last time we invaded the US was about 200 years ago...
and that was under a different king... :>)

Do we just swap the whole engine now and sleep better? My wife is the
worrier. I am the bill payer.

Seattle area listers can you recommend the name of good local independent
shop, or wrecking yards that might have GM products, and honest reliable
towing companies...

Please reply direct to tya2@... <mailto:tya2%404-fly.net>

Reg near Edmonton





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In a message dated 6/20/2008 6:35:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
schellhase@... writes:

what is a DDL?





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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Schellhase <schellhase@...>

Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:57:45
To:ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Refueling with Frig Lit was(EVC Electrical Problem)


Forest do you do this in areas that do not have vapor recovery systems on the gas pumps? I feel relatively safe refueling with the Norcold running on propane when the gas pump has a vapor recovery system, but when the pumps do not have vapor recovery I turn the fridge off before filling.

* * * Warning - I am not stating this is a safe practice or recommending that anyone else should do what I do. * * *

Larry
LA, CA

--- On Fri, 6/20/08, forest flanigan <creoflan@...> wrote:











If you have a hard time finding a replacement solenoid or can't trace the

problem you can always drive with the fridge on propane . Some folks

recommend turning the propane off during fueling but I find no problem with

leaving the fridge lit while refueling. If you do turn off the fridge while

putting gas in you need a well charged rear battery to get it re lit.

Good luck

Forest


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--- On Fri, 6/20/08, forest flanigan <creoflan@...> wrote:











If you have a hard time finding a replacement solenoid or can't trace the

problem you can always drive with the fridge on propane . Some folks

recommend turning the propane off during fueling but I find no problem with

leaving the fridge lit while refueling. If you do turn off the fridge while

putting gas in you need a well charged rear battery to get it re lit.

Good luck

Forest


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On 6/19/08, TYA2 <tya2@...> wrote:

Ok tech experts here is the tough $$$ question. I know that some of you
on the list have the experience of having a timing belt fail and getting
into engine problems. I am looking for information on what happened to
you and how things worked out. This question is not knocking the VW
products, because the engine was in a GM Korea produced Chevy Aveo (4
cylinder 1.6 L gas engine,) Basic scenario at about 40,000 miles on the
odometer.Friday night last he was driving at 60 mph on I-5 north of Seattle
Washington when he lost power in 5th gear, tried shifting down to 4 but
basically the engine died and he coasted to the side of the highway. I
know all this because I was following him in a rental car about 6 car
lengths back. The engine would not start, so we had the vehicle towed to
Everett Chevrolet. Saturday morning the dealer said it must be a timing
belt, I have no mechanic until Monday. It should be an easy job. We
continued back to Canada 900 miles further away. Monday morning I was
told yes it is a timing belt but we have no idea why it failed, there
should be no internal damage. $300. Monday afternoon we were told the
timing belt failed because the tensioner was broken. (one is now
ordered). Tuesday afternoon we were told the head is damaged. (16 valve
engine). The estimate is another $2000.00.... This car had no warranty
it expired at 3 years, 36,000 miles.


Here are my concerns what are the chances the rest of the engine is
TOAST? Even if we change the head and the pistons have no marks on them
what are chance the bits of valves are not going to destroy the engine once
it is put back together? I can do an oil change but are their bits of
debris that won't come out?

I know some of you have done the damaged timing belt, damaged valves and
head scenarios in VWs, what did you decide to do? What would you do?

I can buy a complete factory reman for $4000 or get engines out of wreckers
for 800 to 1400, with installation at about $500. The issues with this
car, is it my son's transportation, we live near Edmonton, Canada, and he
goes to college south of Seattle. We aren't really interested in
warranty, we are interested in reliability. Do we get the car fixed in
Washington, or bring it back to Canada and get the work done here?

Even U-haul is a hassle, they won't rent a tow dolly, they say I need an
auto trailer (ground clearance issues). They won't rent me a pick up
truck to tow a car with and they won't rent me a cube van because I am a
foreigner (so when did being a white Canadian male be such a big
deal?) I mean the last time we invaded the US was about 200 years ago...
and that was under a different king... :>)

Do we just swap the whole engine now and sleep better? My wife is the
worrier. I am the bill payer.

Seattle area listers can you recommend the name of good local independent
shop, or wrecking yards that might have GM products, and honest reliable
towing companies...

Please reply direct to tya2@...

Reg near Edmonton

--- In ev_update@..., "efickel" <EFickel@...> wrote:

Sounds like slipping then. Doing the reset won't hurt but slipping

would to me be consistent with your notation of it being slower when
cold (more slipping, clutches not coming together quickly enough,
etc.). In that case I'd change the fluid and filter and also adjust
the pressure screw and see what happens from there.


I know this will be a stupid question. Should the pressure be adjusted
upwards or downwards? By how much -- quarter-turn, half-turn, or
other. Obviously, I won't do this work -- but I need to be able to
instruct someone on what to do. Where is the pressure screw?

-Erich

-----Original Message-----
From: kgkirkley@...

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:32:37
To:ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Most inexpensive roof rack for '99 EVC??



In a message dated 6/18/08 11:55:45 AM, freeda.peeple@... writes:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone here
installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go Westy
want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Billy:

Unless you 'absolutely' have to have a roof rack.......I would suggest no
going that route.
The roof rack and whatever you mount there will impact your gas mileage at
least 2-4 mpg.

I have removed my Yakima Tracks towers and just put everything inside.
An alternative would be a rear hitch mounted carrier......no drag.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC


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