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Strange thing happened to me yesterday. I drove from Apex, NC to
Durham, NC on route 55 and saw two EVs. This has never happened in
this area. One was a blue 93 (I guess) and the other one was a white
EVC, both heading south on 55. Anyone on this list?
Eckhard

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People just like to feel included and a lot of people do not know a lot
about fixing Euro vans. So when there is a time when they can put their two
cents in and send in a e-mail they take advantage of this a feel a lot
better about participating in the group. So instead of making people feel
stupid about answering "off the wall" emails we should just live with it,
because it is all in fun, and then everybody would feel good about being
part of this group. After all, we listen to people on this list that do not
even own a EV, but just enjoy the groups discussions. If we stop having fun,
then its time to sell the EV.

Traveling west on Hwy 20 over Santiam Pass in central Oregon I was passed by
a pre-97 EVC with a high-top. Anybody ever seen one of these and where do
they come from?
Anyone on the list?

Steve in Portland
99 EVC "Go"

In a message dated 2/20/00 9:11:57 PM, schellhase@... writes:

<< We has a great rain-shortened week-end in Death >>

Larry

While traveling through LA the propane cover on my 99 EVC escaped to the San
Diego Fwy. Our Winne dealer in Portland replaced under warranty


Steve in Portland
"Go"

Hey Volks,

I saw a EVC getting gas at the Mobile station across the street from the
Brooklyn house of detention. Was this anyone on the list?

Richie
95 Eurobago

In a message dated 02/18/2000 6:27:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Todd.Jacobs@... writes:

I hate to be a party pooper, but I can't see how this thread (How many miles
does you '93 EV have?) is anything more than a waste of cyberspace.

Surveys like age, odometer mileage, gas mileage, etc., have a good place in
the infrequently used "Polls" section on the <A
href="www.egroups.com/list/ev_update/">eGroups EV_Update web site</A>. A lot
of information could be stored in one place without filling up our mailboxes.

Bill Armstrong, EVC Speculator
Endwell, NY
'71 Econoline (home brew camper)
'93 Tracer Wagon

Mike:
Do you have any line drawing pictures of Vanagon Campers? Where is your
site?
Thanks in advance.
Garth Matthes


"mike harrnacker" <vanago-@...> wrote:
original article:

I'm still looking for pictures of your Splitties, Loaf, Vanagons, and
Eurovans for inclusion in model specific screen savers like the

Vanagon one

I have on my site.

I've got lots of great Vanagon pictures but am really short of the

others.

I may end up doing a Splittie/Loaf and Vanagon/Eurovan saver if I

don't get

more pictures. I'm also going to create one huge everything saver

for those

who want it all.

So send them in!!!

I have not checked them out enough to know for sure but I believe they do.

Bruce

Bruce:
Sounds interesting. BUT do they have reinforced sidewalls???
The Goodyear Cargo Vectors and Michelin Agilis have reinforced sidewalls

and

with vehicles like Eurovans, Eurovan Campers and even Vanagons, you need

the

reinforced sidewalls to help control the top heavy tendency of these

vehicles.

Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC
'95 BMW M3
'86 Vanagon
'81 Vanagon
'74 BMW 2002

Sorry to encourage more discussion on the dreaded tire thread but I just had
occasion to try on a friend's set of Pirelli Scorpions (205/75/15) which in
theory are quite a bit taller than the vaunted Agilis. His are on a 91
westy synchro. They fit my 93 ev w/out a problem on both front and back
w/out rubbing the body during turns.

These tires recently rated top of the class in several recent consumer tests
for both quietness of ride as well as handling in the wet. They have 8
belts, are rated for 40 or 50k miles, and I believe are rated for the weight
of most EV configurations. They have both an aggressive "truck" as well as
more sedate "passenger" tread pattern option. As I recall they are a
relative bargain at $69 at discount tire.

For those looking to raise their van, decrease their rpms or get more
mileage might want to check them out.

Bruce
93 ev wk

Yes most definately. Side by side inflated comparison I've done (re new

tire

spares w/= pressures plus on vehicle comparisons). A significant eyeball
difference without using any math. One would have to question the
rationality of putting a smaller tire on already a marginally tired

vehicle?

Speedo readings are already inaccurate as to reading fast (would read even
more inaccurate or faster with shorter tires), EV's have low-torque

engines

(why increase RPM's at highway speeds which would equate to less MPG?),
increase noise due to engine buzz at speed (increased rpm), plus lowering

the

ever present limited ground clearance. Figure? My experience? Been

there

done that with other vehicles. Will pass on any degree of downsizing

vehicle

tires ... even if they were free. Unless living in mountainous terrain

or

towing something behind your EVC where shorter tires equate to higher gear
ratio, look for the larger diameter size tire. The 215/65R15C Agilis may
prove to be the answer if they can be found. I will run my Goodyear G64's
until I find an equally large or larger tire (re the Agilis 215/65R15C) to
replace them with. No complaints whatsoever with the G64's other than a

bit

noisy due to the aggressive tread pattern. Good hunting.... we are off in
our EVC to Alamos, Sonora Mexico for the Music festival .... =).

Bruce,
My 2 cents.
I find the difference in RPM between the Agilis tires I now have (205/65/15)
and the original Goodyear G64's (195/70/15 , load rating 1389 lbs @ 44psi) on
my '93 EV is insignificant. I had also calculated this once before and
concluded that the difference was within variations you would see from tire
wear. Also keep in mind that both of these tire sizes were delivered from
the factory on the '93 models. I would highly recommend staying with the
Agilis tires unless you are sure that any alternative Pirelli is properly
rated for the EV. The reduction in road noise with the Agilis tires versus
my original Goodyear tires is truly amazing.
Ron

We has a great rain-shortened week-end in Death
Valley, we found one of the greatest campsites ever
and met a brand new EVC owner from the Bay Area.

The only bad part was that while driving through Titus
Canyon, I scraped the bottom of the propane tank and
the cover came off. By the time I stopped, it was
under the rear tire. It is no longer usable.

I know they are expensive, but I wondered what is the
best way to get a new propane tank cover. My FLVWD
(Santa Monica VW) has never come through with a part I
ordered for my EVC. I have several parts on order from
them since June 99, and none have yet arrived.

If anyone has successfully ordered and received a new
propane tank cover, please let me know the source.

If the Winnebago Lady is reading this, please help.

Thanks for any assistance.
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I'm still looking for pictures of your Splitties, Loaf, Vanagons, and
Eurovans for inclusion in model specific screen savers like the Vanagon one
I have on my site.

I've got lots of great Vanagon pictures but am really short of the others.
I may end up doing a Splittie/Loaf and Vanagon/Eurovan saver if I don't get
more pictures. I'm also going to create one huge everything saver for those
who want it all.

So send them in!!!

93 GL auto, 50,800 one-owner miles, 1-2 long trips/year, my wife's
daily driver.

IMO, the benefits of this list far outweigh the occasional irritation
of a "wild hair" thread.

Come on guys, life's too short.

Scott in Des Moines

I have air springs inthe back of my Rialta. Its rear suspension is
completely different then an EV, its a beam axel. But it does work to
raise the rear end quite a bit. The idea is to correct for extra wt.
You might be able to rig up the same sort of thing in the rear, but the
front is much tighter.

On the other hand if you do not want to have "instant" height
adjustment you can simply crank in some lift on the fron torsion bars.
A alinment will be necessary. Not sure what you can do for the rear.
Different springs?

I have only seen one Syncro EV(it is still for sale by the way)and it
has the same ride height as my EVGL. I just took a quick glance at the
suspension and it looks the same as the 2wd model, with the exception
of some more driveshafts going aft. This was a Swiss van that was
imported a few years ago, 8 pass. Don't know if the newer campers are
lifted or not.

Dirk 92EVGL

In a message dated 2/20/00 11:50:01 PM, taizo@... writes:

Sorry to encourage more discussion on the dreaded tire thread but I just
had

occasion to try on a friend's set of Pirelli Scorpions (205/75/15) which
in

theory are quite a bit taller than the vaunted Agilis. His are on a 91

westy synchro. They fit my 93 ev w/out a problem on both front and back

w/out rubbing the body during turns.



These tires recently rated top of the class in several recent consumer
tests

for both quietness of ride as well as handling in the wet. They have 8

belts, are rated for 40 or 50k miles, and I believe are rated for the weight

of most EV configurations. They have both an aggressive "truck" as well
as

more sedate "passenger" tread pattern option. As I recall they are a

relative bargain at $69 at discount tire.



For those looking to raise their van, decrease their rpms or get more

mileage might want to check them out.



Bruce

93 ev wk

Bruce:
Sounds interesting. BUT do they have reinforced sidewalls???
The Goodyear Cargo Vectors and Michelin Agilis have reinforced sidewalls and
with vehicles like Eurovans, Eurovan Campers and even Vanagons, you need the
reinforced sidewalls to help control the top heavy tendency of these vehicles.
Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC
'95 BMW M3
'86 Vanagon
'81 Vanagon
'74 BMW 2002

Mary,

Sorry for the delay in reply! We were away from email a few days.

By the way, we see late-model EVCs several times a week in our area. There
probably are at least 6 around here. We spotted the first one about last
August in a Walmart parking lot. That's what started us thinking about them.

We are not thoroughly familiar with the `99 but these are the items we think
are new:
* keyless entry
* two alarms - propane, smoke
* mirror on the closet (was gone in `99)
* reading lights over the back bed
* more cup holders

Other than the keyless entry, there are no changes in the EV itself. If a
dealer still has a `99 then it seems a better deal to pay the `99 price and
add the other items yourself.

If you are looking to buy a new EVC, we recommend to not wait long -
especially if you want to try to pay below sticker. We contacted 7 dealers
within a 250 mile radius of us in Northern Colorado and found none in stock.
(The 2000 we test-drove was sold the next time we went back). The dealers
had a total of about 35 on order, about 30 still available with delivery
ranging from a few weeks to "4 to 6 months." All of the dealers claim the
ones on order will be sold in March and April as the summer vacationers make
their purchases. I wouldn't be surprised. 3 of the dealers wouldn't budge
from sticker. Another offered a $1000 discount. The two fartherest away made
the best offers, with the low being $800 over invoice - but he has to place
a new order and we would have to wait for whenever it comes and risk missing
the summer. Finally the local dealer moved a little more in response to the
other offers. It pays to do some research!

Happy shopping!

Steve Mecham

I drove it home yesterday! Fabulous. My brand-new 2000 EVC. Thanks to
all who helped.

Bob

Michael,
What you are looking for is called a gas spring. I got replacements for
mine at MobilityRV which specializes in parts for Winnebago RVs. Check
www.mobilityrv.com for a phone number. Service from them was prompt and
efficient.
Marve
'95 EVC
"michael myers" <buddahv-@...> wrote:
original article:

I have a question about the large cover that lifts up to expose the
sink and stove. Where can I find replacement air-shocks to hold it

up?

I lift it up but it falls down unless I fold out the cooking sheild
and hook on to the hook over-head. Can I get these at any hardware
store or are they a stock Winnebago part?

thanks,
mtm

It is difficult to source and deliver potable water to the internal
14 gl.storage tank so I think it will be used more for washing etc.
The Melbourne city water is fine to start of a trip with although
probably chlorinated and certainly fluoridated, Once on the road you
have to keep an eye out for public access to taps as well as O'night
camp areas.

If you are ever in the Phoenix area there is an outfit called Water and Ice that sells Reverse Osmosis
water for 20 to 25 cents per gallon. I can't say this for sure about all of them, but the one I use is
equiped with a long hose to fill RV water tanks



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