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Re: Overheating - HELP !!

 

--- In ev_update@y..., ieworld@y... wrote:
Hi All:

I just notice lately that the temp GAUGE has start touching 230
degrees. I like to solicit opinions to as what might be wrong in
this
kind of scenario.

My car is a 93 EV GL. Any inputs is highly appreciated.


Thank you!

JC
1). Coolant level low - check the overflow tank
2). Air in the system - well documented recently
3). Inoperable/malfunctioning fans - resistor pack discussion well
documented recently and in archives.
4). Bad gauge - smack the dashboard a couple times above the speedo.
Something's up - this engine never ever gets hot if all of the above
are working. Just a high reading isn't a big deal, if the fans are
roaring outside. Check them with and without the a/c on. is the red
light blinking on the dash?

Scott
Overheating - HELP !!

[email protected]
 

Hi All:

I just notice lately that the temp GAUGE has start touching 230
degrees. I like to solicit opinions to as what might be wrong in this
kind of scenario.

My car is a 93 EV GL. Any inputs is highly appreciated.


Thank you!

JC
Re: Terror's awful logic

 

All well and good, but what are we to do about it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael G. McCarthy" <mgmccarthy@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 9:45 PM
Subject: [ev_update] Terror's awful logic


FWIW, this column is the closest yet to my own opinion






Terror's awful logic

Column by Michael Kelly

(former reporter for The Cincinnati Post, is now editor of
the Atlantic Monthly.)

This is the end logic of terror. The long age of imperialism bequeathed to
this century a world full of questions of who wronged whom, and who stole
whose land, and what should be done. Those questions, far from finding
resolution in the half-peace of the Cold War's aftermath, roil ever more.
Absent the relative stability imposed by the war of the giants, the
grievances of those upon whom the giants acted out their territorial
ambitions have much more room to grow.

In theory, this is not a bad thing. But there are two great problems. The
first is that, in the end, the whole world was stolen from somebody, most
of
it repeatedly; there are

claims and counterclaims and counter-counterclaims for every inch of the
planet that is desirable and for much that is not. The second is that
people
(and the governments they form) do not like to give back what they have
acquired, whether that acquisition is of dubious morality or not.

So, those with territorial claims turn to force. But here arises a third
problem: By and large, the aggrieved do not possess the force necessary to
win their way in open battle. Given this, a common response has been the
use
of terror: attacks by the aggrieved not on the soldiers of the enemy, but
on
the people of the enemy - on innocent victims.

Given that this is murder, you would think that terrorism would have a
hard
time finding adherents. But tribalism is a powerful corrupting force, and
so
is ideology, and an awful quality of modern times has been the degree to
which terror by various movements has been accepted as legitimate by those
who support the goals of those movements.

Communism found no difficulty persuading generations on the left that
terror
on the most massive scale was justified by the need to free the world from
the yoke of capitalistic imperialism. Irish-Americans have almost
monolithically supported the IRA in its decades of bombings and killings
aimed at scaring the British out of Northern Ireland. And so it goes, case
by tribal or ideological case, around the world.



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[email protected]
 

We've had a lot of controversy and a flame war recently, all centered
around appropriate commentary. I'd like to ask that all confine
remarks here to VW campers and associated information.

For the most part, I sympathize with the comments on children, the
recent terrorist attacks, and so on. I would ask those who want to
deal with those topics to avail themselves of appropriate channels,
like email, chat rooms, or other yahoo groups.

This group has been a great source of information on common EVC ills,
like the stupid curtains. It has also had inspiring coverage on
trips. The group is quite valuable to me and I hope it can continue
to be so.

In the good old days of of USENET, it was considered a breach of
courtesy to post a "me too" message, with lots of repeated content
(like a string of messages) and little input. Our messages on this
group are getting unmanageable due to the combination of this and off-
topic postings. Please consider this when you post.

Thanks,
Ed
'99 EVC
I'll be at the Buoys
Americans show unity against terrorism

Madeleine Dewar
 

This was passed on to me through numerous emails. I have deleted the previous track for ease of reading.

Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. step out your door, stop your car, or
step out of your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that Americans are strong and united together against terrorism.

Please pass this to everyone on your email list. We need to reach everyone across the United States quickly.

The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM!

Thank you.

We need press to cover this - we need the world to see.

Peace, Love and Serenity,
Madeleine
Re: Teach your children well.....

James H. McCarthy
 

According to the Merriam Webster dictionary the word 'horrific' dates from
the 17th century, and it means to cause horror. While others may have their
own sensitivities to the word, I rarely use it. It is for me a very strong
word, describing strong horror and dismay. And that is why I did use it.
Jim McCarthy, Somerville, MA, USA

wiliam meyer wrote:

the clearest thing i have done is to drop "blame" and ultimate judgment
from my paradigm of "how to navigate the world in a positive manner".
these labels are a moral club we use to try and smite others (and
sometimes ourselves)
meanwhile:
i have an awful reaction to the work "horrific".
it is parroted endlessly and i suspect all who use it.
Re: Teach your children well.....

[email protected]
 

In a message dated 01-09-11 21:59:09 EDT, you write:

<< Have you every hear a Palestinian talk about how they believe
that Israel stole their land? It's ugly... a war (hatred) that's been
going for many generations... It is very complicated... and
there's no answer to questions that the Jews and Palestinians are asking
each other. >>

I lived in Kuwait for 2 1/2 years in the early 70s (when the Gulf War started
my son said, "Well, at least now people will know where I was born!) - my ex
husband was a British Diplomat.

We met many Palestinians socially and even drove past a deplorable
Palestinian refugee camp outside of Beirut, Lebanon. I remember my
daughter's pediatrician who told how their property in Jaffa had been
confiscated. The Palestinians (and just about every other ethnic group) were
treated as second-class citizens. The Palestinian children went to school
during the second shift...afternoons.

Someone said to me that it suited the Arab nations (who have megamillion
bucks at their disposition and could have resettled them to proper housing)
to have the displaced Palestinians as a "symbol."

Remember, this was 30 years ago. I have no idea what the situation is now.

I would prefer that this not be forwarded to anyone outside the list...at
least not with my screen name visible. I only mention this as possible
insight. The radical fundamentalists are something else completely.

sk (most of you know who I am)
Re: Overheating - HELP !!

 

In a message dated 9/13/2001 11:17:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
bleggis4@... writes:


1). Coolant level low - check the overflow tank
2). Air in the system - well documented recently
3). Inoperable/malfunctioning fans - resistor pack discussion well
documented recently and in archives.
Does the engine temperature fluctuate with vehicle speed? If the temperature
reduces as vehicle speed increases, that is a good indication that air flow
across the radiator is affected in some way.


4). Bad gauge - smack the dashboard a couple times above the speedo.
Something's up - this engine never ever gets hot if all of the above
are working. Just a high reading isn't a big deal, if the fans are
roaring outside. Check them with and without the a/c on. is the red
light blinking on the dash?

My experience with "the bad gauge" was that when it malfunctioned, it
indicated Cold. If the gauge indicates Hot, heed it.

Regards,
Bob
Re: SELL AND BUY

 

In a message dated 9/13/2001 12:58:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
robhaha@... writes:


By the way, do the new weekenders have AC in the rear or at least the middle?
Negative. Only in the front, just as before.

Bob
01 Weekender
tears and tires

[email protected]
 

for all, the events of the past 36 hours have been overwhelming. I am
sure there are people on this list that have been lost or who have lost
loved ones. The everyday issues that we tend to whine about seem so
mundane, and trivial now.

All that aside, I drove into a hole and blew out an Agilis. I cannot
find a replacement. Does anyone have a spare tire or 2 with decent
tread that they would be willing to sell? (my spare is a goodyear).

Peace, and hope --
Kate
93 MV
Re: Wanted suggestions for Lightweight flatbed trailer

IronWood Designs
 

How about a serious roof rack?

-----Original Message-----
Wanted suggestions for Lightweight flatbed trailer

tya
 

Dear List,

I am looking for suggestions for a lightweight flatbed trailer to
tow behind a Eurovan. Contents will be a 250 lb ultra light
airplane. Fuselage about 16 feet long, wheel width about 60 inches and
two wings each about 13 feet long to be carried. I am hoping to buy such
a trailer in Kansas and tow it back to Canada with the aircraft I was going
to buy in Emporia KS.

Reg
Terror's awful logic

Michael G. McCarthy
 

FWIW, this column is the closest yet to my own opinion






Terror's awful logic

Column by Michael Kelly

(former reporter for The Cincinnati Post, is now editor of
the Atlantic Monthly.)

This is the end logic of terror. The long age of imperialism bequeathed to
this century a world full of questions of who wronged whom, and who stole
whose land, and what should be done. Those questions, far from finding
resolution in the half-peace of the Cold War's aftermath, roil ever more.
Absent the relative stability imposed by the war of the giants, the
grievances of those upon whom the giants acted out their territorial
ambitions have much more room to grow.

In theory, this is not a bad thing. But there are two great problems. The
first is that, in the end, the whole world was stolen from somebody, most of
it repeatedly; there are

claims and counterclaims and counter-counterclaims for every inch of the
planet that is desirable and for much that is not. The second is that people
(and the governments they form) do not like to give back what they have
acquired, whether that acquisition is of dubious morality or not.

So, those with territorial claims turn to force. But here arises a third
problem: By and large, the aggrieved do not possess the force necessary to
win their way in open battle. Given this, a common response has been the use
of terror: attacks by the aggrieved not on the soldiers of the enemy, but on
the people of the enemy - on innocent victims.

Given that this is murder, you would think that terrorism would have a hard
time finding adherents. But tribalism is a powerful corrupting force, and so
is ideology, and an awful quality of modern times has been the degree to
which terror by various movements has been accepted as legitimate by those
who support the goals of those movements.

Communism found no difficulty persuading generations on the left that terror
on the most massive scale was justified by the need to free the world from
the yoke of capitalistic imperialism. Irish-Americans have almost
monolithically supported the IRA in its decades of bombings and killings
aimed at scaring the British out of Northern Ireland. And so it goes, case
by tribal or ideological case, around the world.



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Re: Teach your children well.....

[email protected]
 

I believe one thing for sure if this does not go unpunished it will happen
again and again and again. The people who instigated this event are the kind
of people who will not listen to reason. Much like you. I do not like them
not for what they did but for what they will ultimately make me and my
children and your children do. I have lived long enough to know that my enemy
does not have to like me or care for me. But he has to have enough respect
for my word and my resolve that he will not harm me. I do not dislike the
people that did this deed. But is I let this go I am just as guilty of the
next murder as he. An I might add if you let this go and he does it again so
are you. I have friends that feel about the U.S. Like the instigators of this
act but they would never think of attacking our country or its people. I
disagree with them, They disagree with me. We are still friends. If you are
not willing to die for something you will die for nothing. If we do not
destroy the evil that has done this thing it will destroy us. Only God will
judge and I will gladly accept his judgment. I say we pray for our leaders to
make the wright choices.
Storm Penton
Re: Teach your children well.....

Michael G. McCarthy
 

An"awful" reaction to horrific? You mean you are in "awe" of your own
reaction? And "awe" is defined as a feeling of "reverence, fear and wonder
caused by something majestic, sublime, sacred, etc." Gosh....what kind of
"zombie" are YOU?

Perhaps that's not REALLY what you mean, and I suppose we all know that.
What we don't know -- or at least what I don't know -- is why you bother to
condemn great numbers of people's intelligence and moral character simply
because they have absorbed the jargon of the moment. You consider that
consistent with your dropping of "'blame' and ultimate judgement" from your
navigation paradigm?

Seriously, do you really think people using the word "horrific" are morons
who actually are thinking that they've just seen the most like totally
awesome video game ever, dude? Give people a break; not everyone is a poet.

Mike <--- promises to use "horrible" from now on, and to NEVER say "jumbo
shrimp"

----------
From: wiliam meyer <wmeyer@...>
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Re: Teach your children well.....
Date: Wed, Sep 12, 2001, 8:43 PM


the clearest thing i have done is to drop "blame" and ultimate judgment
from my paradigm of "how to navigate the world in a positive manner".
these labels are a moral club we use to try and smite others (and
sometimes ourselves)
meanwhile:
i have an awful reaction to the work "horrific".
it is parroted endlessly and i suspect all who use it.
unfortunately for me i looked up "terrific" in the dictionary and it
does indeed refer to a negative event.
nevertheless, in modern times "terrific" connotes a positive thrill.
combining the two words seems to say "an exciting horror spectacle."
seeing this word used over and over causes me to doubt the level of
thought and original work done by all these glibly parroting or
incorporating this word. i really really have a problem with this word
and those who use it. i have a terrible suspicion of their intelligence.
it is used so frequently i am literally convinced that i am surrounded
by zombies. i'm really not kidding.



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Re: SELL AND BUY

[email protected]
 

Anyone interested in a 93 weekender with 121k miles very good condition,
almost excellent? Everything works.

And, is anyone looking to part with a nearly new MV, 2001 or 2002, please let
me know.

By the way, do the new weekenders have AC in the rear or at least the middle?

Rob
Re: Teach your children well.....

wiliam meyer
 

the clearest thing i have done is to drop "blame" and ultimate judgment
from my paradigm of "how to navigate the world in a positive manner".
these labels are a moral club we use to try and smite others (and
sometimes ourselves)
meanwhile:
i have an awful reaction to the work "horrific".
it is parroted endlessly and i suspect all who use it.
unfortunately for me i looked up "terrific" in the dictionary and it
does indeed refer to a negative event.
nevertheless, in modern times "terrific" connotes a positive thrill.
combining the two words seems to say "an exciting horror spectacle."
seeing this word used over and over causes me to doubt the level of
thought and original work done by all these glibly parroting or
incorporating this word. i really really have a problem with this word
and those who use it. i have a terrible suspicion of their intelligence.
it is used so frequently i am literally convinced that i am surrounded
by zombies. i'm really not kidding.
Re: What Every person on the List Can Do

John Pelszynski
 

Yes Scott, driving by the Pentagon this morning was very unreal with
acrid smoke still pouring out of the building. I work for the Department
of Defense and I'm proud of the small part I play in the defense of our
country but I felt very helpless yesterday as I watched the Pentagon fires
burning out of control from my office window. But I can pray for the many
victims and their families, a couple of them I'm afraid are my friends. And
everyone else can pray and hope that our kids can live in a safer, more secure
and better world.



JP

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Re: Cheaper Parts

Christian R.
 

This is it.
thanks to all who posted.
Christian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Schellhase" <schellhase@...>
To: <ev_update@...>
Cc: <drz400@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Cheaper Parts


I don't know if this is the link you were looking for,
check it out.




--- "Christian R." <drz400@...> wrote:
Please help,
I remember seeing a website here for parts 40 to 70 %
cheaper.
I struggled through the archives and couldn't find.

Can someone post it again ?
Thanks
Christian




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egr valve reset

Al Ferguson
 

Long time lurker, first time poster...
I know this has probably been addressed before but...
I would like to know if any of you good folks can tell
me how to check and reset (if required) the EGR light
on a 1997 Eurovan-Camper (VR6). On my late 80's
Vanagons it was a simple black box on the speedo cable
with a little hole to stick a pencil in - push the
pencil in and the button will make a click sound and
is reset. Had to do that every 30K if I remember
correctly. Heck if I can find a similar setup on this
Eurovan!
So here is the deal, at 48.8K (and change) the
"check-engine" light comes. It is running cool... I
pull over and check oil, leaks, water, etc. - all is
o.k. so I drive it to the dealership - Hueberger in
Colorado Springs, CO - they won't even look at it for
a
week :-/ (terrible service) So I set an appointment.
In the meantime I would like to check that EGR / OXY
to see if it is a simple reset until I can get it in
the shop. YES I WILL GET IT LOOKED AT. BTW - I just
had a smog test on it - passed with ease.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Al Ferguson

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