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Alternative storage by removing upper bed

 

In a message dated 11/15/1999 10:38:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
garyc@... writes:

Subj: [ev_update] Re: Eurovan Pop-Top Rattle??
(snip)
Since we use the upper bed so little and seeing Gerry Edge's approach of
just taking everything out of the roof and using the hollow space for
storage, I can say that removing the bedboards did not silence the van any
at all because we had plenty of those rubber "dots" in the first place. I
may return the one mattress to the roof because it keeps clothes pressed
nicely for dressy occasions.
Gary -

Does removing the bed mean detaching the forward (folding portions) of the
board by removing the hinge and leaving the rear (stationary) board in place?
I am assuming that the area underneath the stationary board, if easily
accessible, is not suitable for storing linens.

When you leave the upper bed in place as designed in transit, do you feel
that the bed acts as a sound deadener and thermal insulator between the roof
and the EVC interior?

Bill Armstrong, EVC Speculator
'71 Econoline (home brew camper)
'93 Tracer Wagon


Re: Eurovan Pop-Top Rattle?? Thanks!!!

Rick Gordon
 

At 11:25 PM -0800 11/16/99, kgkirkley@... wrote:
A hearty thanks to everyone for your responses.
I love hearing all the solutions you guys have for this pop-top rattle
problem.
It would be neat if someone were to publish a manual of user developed
improvements to the Eurovan Camper, covering all aspects.
Kent Kirkley
There's a few on my web site, although i haven't updated it lately.


-rick


Re: EVC Pop-Top Insulation Tip

Wael ElSakka
 

Steve,

I am also interested in buying for 1999 EVC. Please let me know
"roughly" what the cost might be. Thanks.

-Wael



sklashle-@... wrote:
original article:
While I was in Germany last month, I met with an Italian company that
makes
the window insulation kits for the EV. They offer the cab window
set, which
includes the windshield and drivers and passengers windows. They
also have a
cover for the rear window.

These covers attach with suction cups and are the quilted reflective
insulation material.

You can also buy the bulk material and make your own covers for the
side
windows.

They also have insulation kits for the poptop canvas. This is also a
quilted
material, but does not have the reflective layer to it. They stock
the kits
for the Westfalias, and can custom make the Winnie tops if I get them
a
template.

I would like to start importing these kits for EuroVans and Vanagons,
so what
I propose is a group purchase. I would like to make an initial order
for at
least 10 of each set, and would pass these kits on to anyone who
wants them
at very close to my cost.

The difficult part of this is that I won't know what all the costs
are until
they arrive. If these are shipped by parcel post, they can arrive at
my
door. Other times I get hit with duty charges at the post office.

I will estimate a worst case cost and post the details.

Any volunteers for making the poptop pattern? I will need all 4
sides made
on plastic sheeting.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
<A href="></A>
314-614-0750
Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other
Accessories for
Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan


Re: High Altitude Fridge Kit-Again

 

On my 95, the additional vent was mounted below the original vent on the
flat surface. It is well out of the way of the seam, there is no sealing
problem and the fridge now works at high altitudes.

Joel Funk wrote:


The high-altitude kit came already installed on my 97 EVC. The second
vent is mounted on the flat surface of the body panel, not on the seam,
and is vertically aligned with the other vent. My understanding from
other posts to this list is that the vent mounts above the existing
vent, which, unfortunately, places it right under the window, but that
is how it was designed.

Joel Funk
97 EVC
Fort Collins, CO

kgkirkle-@... wrote:
I posted this question a week or so ago and got no responses.
I asked for and received (from Winnebago) a high altitude kit for the
Norcold fridge in my '97EVC but haven't installed it yet. It appears
that a new hole must be drilled in EVC exterior sheet metal below the
current vent and the new vent will be placed right where there is an
indented seam running down the side of the EVC. Is this the case and
how is the new vent sealed if it installs over this seam???
Kent Kirkley


Re: EV: Dealer mechanics/Canadian dealer

Wade Punch
 

Chris Noeske wrote:

I'll agree that it that would be frustrating, our EV is a 3rd vehicle for
that reason.
If my EV could have remained as a 3rd and extra vehicle, I would not have sold
it.

I found that most of the problems are caused by mechanics that don't know
what they
are doing, and cause more damage than they fix, all at your expense and the
vehicle manufactures reputation.
I think you are right about this. In the case of my manual shifter problem,
while I think the mechanic was intending to be very thorough by ordering all the
associated parts so that they could all be replaced efficiently at one time, I
am not convinced I actually needed all of them. So I was the one who got
shifted, I mean, shafted.

Allot of the dealers, that don't care. The first dealer that I found who
cared was in Canada, now
I buy just about everything through him.
Some of us might want to know who this dealer is, and the number, address, etc.


Re: Customer appreciation/Reliability & Cost Efficiency

Wade Punch
 

Sicvw@... wrote:

I appreciate your input but to think that a company like Toyota appreciates
it's customers and if the same thing happened to one of their cars that they
might even reimburse you...thats just crazy .
You have a point. I am in the midst now of trying to convince the Toyota dealer
to replace a carburetor that is only 9 months old and under warranty. But the
dealer (who did not install it) is telling me there is nothing wrong with it, and
I know better. The problem is, the problem comes and goes, and they are not
willing to drive it enough to see the real problem in action.

Moreover saying that you
"perfer a reliable and cost efficient car" implies that the rest of us dont.
Maybe what I was implying was, some of the rest of you are more patient than I to
deal with some of the idiosynchrosies of the EV's. Sure, we all want reliable
cars, but some of us may be more tolerant. As for cost efficiency, if money were
no object and I had an overabundant supply, I would not care about the cost. But
that is not the case with me.

We all want reliable and cost efficent cars but unfortunately not every
single car or product a company offers will always be rock solid reliable. if
an auto manufacturer offered to fix eveything that went wrong with a car 1
year after the warranty was up anyways,they would lose a ton of money and i
think that if you were the president of the 3rd largest automaker in the
world you might find it difficult to give up that kind of cash.
You are basically right; however, in the EV's case though, if you were a
subscriber to the "original" EV Update newsletter, you would know there has been
a high incidence of A/C failures, and for the most part VW has refused to help
many people, outside the warranty. I maintain this system in particular, was
poorly designed and they should take more responsibility than they have. The
current fuel line situation seems to be a very serious issue, and it appears from
this group's postings, that VW once again is not too concerned. I hope they are.
(They should be)
I would think being the 3rd largest automaker (I thought they were #2, who is
1,2, and 3 now?), you would have a fair amount of cash you could afford to give
up. Maintaining good will seems to be a foreign concept to VW, I think the
Japanese (notably Acura & Lexus) and Saturn would tell you it contributes toward
customers remaining happy and coming back to buy more vehicles.

But i like
the VW "s because i have found them to be reliable and appealing to the eye
and they , to me are very useful and enjoyable cars with a lot of personaliy
and that is something the Japanese automakers definately dont have (
personality) as it seems everything they make is a copy of something else.
Yes, they do have character and the styling is continually improving.
I am still not convinced wholeheartedly about the reliability, though. The dealer
network still has a lot of room to grow.

I
still appreciate all the help and guidance that your experience can give me
because at one time you did own a Vw at one time. chris
Since 1970 I have driven and/or owned numerous VW's. The first was a Karmann
Ghia, then a '69 Camper (non pop-top), then other Ghia's (hardtops &
convertibles), a Thing, a Squareback, a '71 Camper Pop-Top, a '80 Rabbit diesel,
a '82 Jetta, a '84 Vanagon Camper, a '90 Vanagon, and of course, a '93 EV GL. So
you may see, to sell my EV in January was not an easy decision. Economics played
a large part of the decision.
I still own a '83 BMW R100 motorcycle since new, so I still have German blood in
me. I have driven only BMW's since 1970 also.

Wade


Re: Bilstein shocks

John Waterman
 

Steve,
Prices vary widely, but I purchased mine through Checker Auto (had to be
special ordered) for $86 each. Retail is about $135.
John

STEVENHF@... wrote:

Please tell me where and how much for the Bilsteins for an EVC

TIA

Steve in Portland

99EVC "Go"

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Re: High Altitude Fridge Kit-Again

John Waterman
 

Kent,
Can't give you a direct reply to your question, but I do know that in most
cases Winnebago had also picked up the cost for the dealer to install the
kit.
John

kgkirkley@... wrote:

I posted this question a week or so ago and got no responses.
I asked for and received (from Winnebago) a high altitude kit for the
Norcold fridge in my '97EVC but haven't installed it yet. It appears
that a new hole must be drilled in EVC exterior sheet metal below the
current vent and the new vent will be placed right where there is an
indented seam running down the side of the EVC. Is this the case and
how is the new vent sealed if it installs over this seam???
Kent Kirkley
'97 EVc
'86 Vanagon
'81 Vanagon
'74 BMW 2002
'95 BMW M3
Dallas, Texas

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Bug Guard for 2000 Eurovan

Eckhard Rolz
 

Team Degenerate wrote:

VW dealers have the bug gaurd - I blieve they run $70 USD?? Kinda
pricey but I'm not shocked anymore.
$70 is exactly what a Chevy dealer charges for a bug guard for a Chevy Astro.
In a German magazine I saw a clear plastic foil that can be applied to the
hood and perhaps the top of the rear bumper (where mine is scratched). I have
thought about "coating" my hood but is so scratched and chipped that any new
chips don't matter. I think J.C. Whitney carries some sort of foil like that.
I also read in a US car magazine (the one that tested the new Mercedes 4x4)
that this stuff can be professionally applied. They had it done to their
Mercedes before they drove it to Alaska.
Eckhard


Re: EVC Pop-Top Insulation Tip

 

Sounds interesting to me. If I can swing the cost then I would buy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Zaborenko, Alex, NPG [mailto:azaborenko@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 3:00 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: EVC Pop-Top Insulation Tip

For a decent price I'll buy one

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Sklashley@... [mailto:Sklashley@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 1:10 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: EVC Pop-Top Insulation Tip


While I was in Germany last month, I met with an Italian company that makes
the window insulation kits for the EV. They offer the cab window set, which

includes the windshield and drivers and passengers windows. They also have
a
cover for the rear window.

These covers attach with suction cups and are the quilted reflective
insulation material.

You can also buy the bulk material and make your own covers for the side
windows.

They also have insulation kits for the poptop canvas. This is also a
quilted
material, but does not have the reflective layer to it. They stock the kits

for the Westfalias, and can custom make the Winnie tops if I get them a
template.

I would like to start importing these kits for EuroVans and Vanagons, so
what
I propose is a group purchase. I would like to make an initial order for at

least 10 of each set, and would pass these kits on to anyone who wants them
at very close to my cost.

The difficult part of this is that I won't know what all the costs are until

they arrive. If these are shipped by parcel post, they can arrive at my
door. Other times I get hit with duty charges at the post office.

I will estimate a worst case cost and post the details.

Any volunteers for making the poptop pattern? I will need all 4 sides made
on plastic sheeting.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
<A href="></A>
314-614-0750
Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other Accessories
for
Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan

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Re: Bug Guard for 2000 Eurovan

Team Degenerate
 

VW dealers have the bug gaurd - I blieve they run $70 USD?? Kinda
pricey but I'm not shocked anymore.

I never imagined owning a vehicle I would want a bug gaurd on until I
got into the crazy EV world.

I now have a bug gaurd ;-)

-Bill

karmann_ghia_registry@... wrote:


I have had a 2000 Eurovan for two months now. It has the center
separate seats which are great and the tinted glass.

I would like to get a bug gaurd for the front as I now have to nice
stone chips. Does anyone make one?

Jeff

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Re: Bug Guard for 2000 Eurovan

Chris Noeske
 

There is one shown in the accessories catalog, available at the VW dealer.
The catalog has prices listed in it. The price for the hitch, was in line
with what I paid for mine.

-----Original Message-----
From: karmann_ghia_registry@...
[mailto:karmann_ghia_registry@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 5:04 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Bug Guard for 2000 Eurovan


I have had a 2000 Eurovan for two months now. It has the center
separate seats which are great and the tinted glass.

I would like to get a bug gaurd for the front as I now have to nice
stone chips. Does anyone make one?

Jeff


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Bug Guard for 2000 Eurovan

 

I have had a 2000 Eurovan for two months now. It has the center
separate seats which are great and the tinted glass.

I would like to get a bug gaurd for the front as I now have to nice
stone chips. Does anyone make one?

Jeff


Re: 2000 EV

 

In a message dated 11/17/99 10:38:50 AM, Beaumont.Vance@... writes:

<<IS this for Canada only or are we getting the 2000 EVC in the US? >>

US and Canada. All the press info was directed toward both Candad and US
newspapers and magazines.

Todd Vess
Windsor, Colo.


HIGH TECH POPTOP RATTLE SOLUTION

 

I used two tennis balls (we used green ones), one in each front corner of the
roof when closed. That's what worked for us. No more rattles from the pop
top. Wala.

Jim
95 EVC
S. Arizona

<< n a message dated 11/14/99 11:57:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kgkirkley@... writes:

When traveling on rough roads (paved or otherwise) my '97 Eurovan
> Pop-Top makes a lot of noise as if it wasn't locked down. I'm always
> very careful about how the pop-top fabric is folded and that the
> pop-top is latched. I think some of the noise may be coming from the
> bed-board rattling overhead.
> Has anyone else experienced this and how did you treat it???
> Kent Kirkley
> '97 EVC
>>


Re: Spark Plug Wires - VR6

 

I dunno about the VR6, but new wires for my 1990 Passat were $185.00 AFTER
the local Napa guy's "I feel sorry for you because you own a VW" discount.

You might check out some of the suppliers in European Car magazine. Neuspeed
may have some really good 8mm wires for less than the local parts house or VW
Dealer may charge. 800-423-3623 or www.neuspeed.com

German Parts & Restoration also has some low prices. 800-321-5432.


Re: 2000 EV - Chrome ring?

 

In a message dated 11/16/99 4:00:47 PM, schellhase@... writes:

<<Where was that chrome ring?>>

You know, the shit knob, right next to the shift knob. . . Oops.

Todd


Exhaust Systems

DANIEL R HERBERT
 

Hi EV'rs!

My 1995 Eurobago is losing its factory exhaust system on
the installment plan. The tailpipe just fell off the
muffler.

Any suggestions of Canadian aftermarket sources for exhaust
bits - I am loathe to pay VW prices.

TIA

Dan
----------------------
DANIEL R HERBERT
Manager, Computer Services
Faculty of Dentistry
University of Toronto
dan.herbert@...


Re: EVC Pop-Top Insulation Tip

Zaborenko, Alex, NPG
 

For a decent price I'll buy one

Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: Sklashley@... [mailto:Sklashley@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 1:10 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: EVC Pop-Top Insulation Tip


While I was in Germany last month, I met with an Italian company that makes
the window insulation kits for the EV. They offer the cab window set, which

includes the windshield and drivers and passengers windows. They also have
a
cover for the rear window.

These covers attach with suction cups and are the quilted reflective
insulation material.

You can also buy the bulk material and make your own covers for the side
windows.

They also have insulation kits for the poptop canvas. This is also a
quilted
material, but does not have the reflective layer to it. They stock the kits

for the Westfalias, and can custom make the Winnie tops if I get them a
template.

I would like to start importing these kits for EuroVans and Vanagons, so
what
I propose is a group purchase. I would like to make an initial order for at

least 10 of each set, and would pass these kits on to anyone who wants them
at very close to my cost.

The difficult part of this is that I won't know what all the costs are until

they arrive. If these are shipped by parcel post, they can arrive at my
door. Other times I get hit with duty charges at the post office.

I will estimate a worst case cost and post the details.

Any volunteers for making the poptop pattern? I will need all 4 sides made
on plastic sheeting.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
<A href="></A>
314-614-0750
Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other Accessories
for
Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan

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2000 MV seating (European Model)

 

I have a few new images up on my web page including a scan from the German MV
brochure showing the removable / reversible middle seats.



I have also moved the parts book images to this page including the 5 cyl fuel
line diagram.

The German EV has tracks in the floor that allow multiple arrangements of the
middle and rear seats. This is the same setup that the Westfalia model has
except the tracks are located in a different position. The MV model I saw at
the auto show in Frankfurt had a Westfalia plate on the lower panel on the
rear seat.

The floor is not carpeted, but has a rubber material with square bumps in it
that is placed over plywood. The tracks are cut into the floor of the EV and
the level with the top of the raised plywood floor.

This is a handy arrangement, but the tracks quickly fill up with dirt.

Steve Lashley
'66 Westy
'74 Campmobile
'93 EV MV
<A href="></A>
314-614-0750
Importing German Side Tents, Carver Propane Heaters and other Accessories for
Bus, Vanagon and EuroVan