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Re: Norcold woes

 

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Sam is your email??sletz@...??

Cheryl






To: ev_update@...
From: ev_update@...
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:39:03 -0400
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Norcold woes

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Cheryl

This solves a problem if your Norcold (Model 3163)? fridge lights ( green light goes on) but then- after you release the button- the green light goes out and you can't get the green light to stay on- no matter what you do.

Contact me off-group and we'll talk about this!

Thanks

Sam

02 EVC


On 6/16/2015 4:45 PM, Cheryl MacLeod cherylmontgomery@... [ev_update] wrote:
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Hi ?Sam , I am a bit late to this thread...can you tell me if the fix will work on my 95 eurovan full camper?


Cheryl



To: ev_update@...
From: ev_update@...
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:41:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Norcold woes

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Doug

Price is $15 + $5.95 USPS shipping.

You can do PayPal to my e-mail or send a check to address in instructions I include.

I have just started another batch ( demand has been high) so should ship early next week!

Thanks

Sam

02 EVC




On 6/16/2015 2:30 PM, Douglas Peterson dpeterson253@... [ev_update] wrote:
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sam,? have yet to try and start my fridge, but I would like to install one of your relays.? Let e know cost and where to send and I will get off to you, thanks Douglas Peterson, Boise, ID



On Friday, May 29, 2015 9:05 AM, "sam letzring sletz@... [ev_update]" wrote:


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Jose

I'm building a bunch this weekend. Send me a shipping address and I'll get one off to you next week. $15 + shipping and I include very good directions.

Thanks

Sam



On 5/29/2015 10:46 AM, jmagsaysay58@... [ev_update] wrote:
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Hi Sam,

I like your fix for the Norcold. Could I request a unit and instructions as well? I'll be glad to cover costs.
I have a 2002 EVC.
My email Addr: jmagsaysay58@...

Thanks, and best regards,

Jose M.
San Diego








Re: Gas Tank is releasing dangerous fumes

 

Is access to the fuel tank vent difficult? Is it necessary to drop the fuel tank?


Re: Refrigerant control valve

 

Thanks Leo. I am going to look at some other electrical items first. Curiously, can the valve be replaced without removing the AC compressor? I know the system needs to be purged first.


Re: Replacing lock cylinder in door handle

 

Hi Paula,

I assume you are talking about the exterior door handle since you want to change the cylinder.


The procedure is very simple; with the door open, there are two screws to remove and then you just pull out the door handle.

I have added a file with the procedure called: " Remove outer door handle.pdf " to the file section, it is from my Bentley manual.

Hopefully this is what you need.

Jacques

LeSharo LX 88
former Rialta HD 2001 ( and many others)


New file uploaded to ev_update

 

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Re: Norcold's stopped cooling on propane

 


It is important to know if it still cools on ac or dc.

The burner could be dirty. In this case he needs to be cleaned by rv service center.
You can take a look at

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I removed the norcold myself and the service center (can be thetford) just cleaned the burner and built it back into the van.
I strongly recommend to do it not by yourself because of possible gas leaks!


Norcold's stopped cooling on propane

 

We've been on a trip to Seattle since Thursday. The norcold's been great. High 30's and only blown out a couple times. Now it seems to have just stopped cooling. It's lit, but we hit 77 today and now it's right at 61. It's lit and staying lit with no problems or effort.


Not sure what's going on. Not going to troubleshoot too much right now, but any ideas about its sudden lack of performance would be appreciated.


Thanks.Peet


Sent from my handheld.


Re: Potentially Very Cool Gadget - Wireless Battery Monitor

 

lfsiegle@... [ev_update] wrote:
I've been looking for something like this for over a year.
Battery Check <>
The only thing new here is that it communicates with its display wirelessly. Similar battery monitors that have a wire between the sensor and display are more like $50. Wireless data adapters are around $10, so they are making a nice chunk of change for packaging two standard devices together.

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The greatest pleasure in life is to create something that wasn't
there before. -- Roy Spence
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Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com


Re: P0171

Eric Murray
 

On 06/15/2015 01:16 PM, 'Bryan Feddish' bfeddish@... [ev_update]
wrote:
Have you checked all your vacuum hoses, even the kinda hidden ones around
the engine? They have been the culprits on 50% of my CEL codes.
I checked the hoses and found one that's leaking. It was making a
hissing noise that was noticeable with the engine idling and the engine
cover off. Special German vaccumm hose on order from SD-europarts (I
needed to order some stuff anyhow).

Thanks for the suggestion.


Eric


Potentially Very Cool Gadget - Wireless Battery Monitor

 

I've been looking for something like this for over a year.?





Re: {Disarmed} Gas Tank is releasing dangerous fumes

Dan Phalen
 

I'll check the files to see if I can find past correspondence. In the meantime thanks for your advice. I don't have the manual, so I really don't know how complicated this might be. Hopefully it's simple and not too expensive :-)
Thanks, Dan


On Saturday, June 20, 2015, JT Lawlor jtl6999@... [ev_update] <ev_update@...> wrote:
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? Hello Dan - readers:
This topic has arisen and been discussed within the past year. It is not uncommon for the fuel tank Vent in VW Evs to become filled (clogged) with fuel - this usually occurs when the tank is filled, but additional fuel is (forced to top-off) pumped in (? trying to get to a round $ or whatever)..
I dont recall just where (the access to) the breather pipe is - but using compressed air to re-open the pipe-tube? was recommended.? Other opinions should be helpful too.
? Happy Trails!

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 9:46 AM, TYA2 tya2@... [ev_update] <ev_update@...> wrote:
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I believe the tank vent is clogged.


At 08:59 AM 2015-06-20 -0700, you wrote:


A few weeks ago, I smelled gas coming from under my 97 EVC. I have been unable to find the cause. The smell has been intermittent, three times over a one-month period. When it comes it is strong, but not overpowering. I can find no drips under the van or signs of leaks. After a few hours the smell dissipates. Each time it coincided with a 100 plus mile trip in hot weather (90 degrees.)

Yesterday I was able to make a diagnosis.? The tank seems to be under considerable pressure.? After yesterdays trip I once again smelled gas. I opened the gas cap and a rush of fumes expelled for a good couple of minutes until it finally stopped. This is the first time I noticed this, though previously I may not have opened the cap until the van had been at rest for several hours.


I am assuming that the tank has a pressure release vent that may be clogged. If this is the problem, how do I go about fixing it? But even if this is the problem, why would the tank be pressurized? I would have thought the opposite would occur. And why would the condition be intermittent?


I fear that I am driving a time bomb that could literally explode. I won?€?t be driving until I solve the problem.

Does anyone have insight into this problem? I?€?d appreciate any advice or insights. By the way, I am currently in Santa Fe in case anyone knows of a good shop in this area.

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Thanks,

Dan

97 EVC








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Dan Phalen




Re: Gas Tank is releasing dangerous fumes

Dan Phalen
 

Thanks for the advice, it will be helpful when I take the van into the shop tomorrow. Best to go in with at least some modicum of knowledge.


On Saturday, June 20, 2015, Stephen register@... [ev_update] <ev_update@...> wrote:
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You need to have your evaporative fuel system looked at. Could be the valve, carbon canister setup

The pressure comes from the fuel pump is constantly circulating fuel, so you have warm fuel returning to tank

Stephen Jackson
Canoe-ventures

On Jun 20, 2015, at 9:59 AM, tidalwaifs@... [ev_update] <ev_update@...> wrote:

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A few weeks ago, I smelled gas coming from under my 97 EVC. I have been unable to find the cause. The smell has been intermittent, three times over a one-month period. When it comes it is strong, but not overpowering. I can find no drips under the van or signs of leaks. After a few hours the smell dissipates. Each time it coincided with a 100 plus mile trip in hot weather (90 degrees.)


Yesterday I was able to make a diagnosis.? The tank seems to be under considerable pressure.? After yesterdays trip I once again smelled gas. I opened the gas cap and a rush of fumes expelled for a good couple of minutes until it finally stopped. This is the first time I noticed this, though previously I may not have opened the cap until the van had been at rest for several hours.


I am assuming that the tank has a pressure release vent that may be clogged. If this is the problem, how do I go about fixing it? But even if this is the problem, why would the tank be pressurized? I would have thought the opposite would occur. And why would the condition be intermittent?


I fear that I am driving a time bomb that could literally explode. I won¡¯t be driving until I solve the problem.

Does anyone have insight into this problem? I¡¯d appreciate any advice or insights. By the way, I am currently in Santa Fe in case anyone knows of a good shop in this area.

?

Thanks,

Dan

97 EVC




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Dan Phalen




Re: Replacing lock cylinder in door handle

Patrick Faverty
 

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Paula, near the bottom of the "Files" is a page for?
Eurovan Interior Door Panel Removal

The door handle and mechanism itself is not too difficult to deal with once you remove the entire door panel. ?Patience is key - follow the directions and it is quite simple.
Patrick
1993 EV GL

On Jun 21, 2015, at 12:25 PM, paula.hyman@... [ev_update] <ev_update@...> wrote:

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I have to replace the right side door handle and ordered one on eBay. I need to remove the lock from the old handle and install it in the new handle. I haven't found anything on this in the files. I recall it being written about. Could someone describe this job to me.?


I thank you all in advance.?


Paula

2001 EVC

Oakland, CA


Replacing lock cylinder in door handle

 

I have to replace the right side door handle and ordered one on eBay. I need to remove the lock from the old handle and install it in the new handle. I haven't found anything on this in the files. I recall it being written about. Could someone describe this job to me.?


I thank you all in advance.?


Paula

2001 EVC

Oakland, CA


Re: Chronic Limp Mode - 97 EVC

 

Thanks, Duckdive and all the others.
I checked and rechecked a bunch possible causes, then rolled the dice last weekend and started a longish trip in limp mode hoping that the tranny would figure itself out, and it did.? After about an hour of driving at 55-60MPH (~2900RPM) she decided to go into overdrive, and stayed out of limp mode until today.? All is good - for the moment.?

Duckdive, I did mess with the wires coming out of the connector on the back left side of the transaxel. I've had the connector off multiple times, and have cleaned/inspected both sides etc. But never really focused on the wires coming out of the connector. This might have helped, but I'll never know unless I can repeat the procedure. While I hope not, I imagine I'll get the opportunity, and this will be my focus next time there's a problem. This isn't terribly satisfying from a root cause perspective.

Stephan mentioned the ignition switch glitch. I haven't really considered it because it was replaced not long ago.

One thing I did learn was a cool trick for cleaning the pins on the TCU and ECU. I used one of my kid's gummy erasers from their school bag.? The softer rubber type that are usually whitish in color.? As I ran it over the pin array, the pins cut into the eraser.? This cut channels into the eraser that fit snugly over the pins the deeper they cut in. The result was very shiny pins, better than any other method I've tried before.

I'll update the board over time about the success of this "fix".? Thanks again.?


Re: 1993 2.5L cutting out on motorway

 

does it do this more often when the fuels tank is less than 1/2 full? ?A tired fuel pump can be the culprit if this is true. ? When the tank is full, the gasoline around the pump cools it down. ?When near empty, the pump heats up and the pressure at its output drops, resulting in the symptoms you observed.


From: "TYA2 tya2@... [ev_update]"
To: "ev update"
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:44:46 AM
Subject: Re: [ev_update] 1993 2.5L cutting out on motorway

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Have you considered checking your fuel filter? you are right is sounds like
fuel starvation.

Reg

At 02:49 AM 2015-06-20 -0700, you wrote:
>My van's started to stutter rather alarmingly when going at speed on the
>motorway (freeway). It's irregular and hasn't stopped yet but feels like
>it'll do so soon. It's also hunting a bit at idle and a bit more jerky
>around town. I'm thinking fuel starvation - does this sound right?
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Re: Norcold woes

 

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Scott

Have a new batch almost finished- probably ship Monday.

Paypal to my e-mail. $20.95.

Thanks

Sam



On 6/20/2015 9:10 AM, slyfords@... [ev_update] wrote:

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Sam - I'm one of the many belated responders to your earlier messages. I've got a 98 Rialta RD with a 3163 Norcold that works fine on DC and AC, but won't stay lit on propane. I've read the information at rialta.com and am pulling the unit to try to fix the situation. My theory is to upgrade everything that can be upgraded while I have it out, so your relay seems like a good thing to install. I looked through this entire thread and couldn't find your email address to contact you off-list. Mine is slyfords@..., and I can do Paypal. Thanks - hope you have some left.?

Scott
98RD
San Antonio


Re: Norcold woes

 

If you are going to get a rebuilt, try it before? removing frig.??



On June 20, 2015, at 11:01 AM, "slyfords@... [ev_update]" <ev_update@...> wrote:


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Sam - I'm one of the many belated responders to your earlier messages. I've got a 98 Rialta RD with a 3163 Norcold that works fine on DC and AC, but won't stay lit on propane. I've read the information at and am pulling the unit to try to fix the situation. My theory is to upgrade everything that can be upgraded while I have it out, so your relay seems like a good thing to install. I looked through this entire thread and couldn't find your email address to contact you off-list. Mine is slyfords@..., and I can do Paypal. Thanks - hope you have some left.?

Scott
98RD
San Antonio


Re: Gas Tank is releasing dangerous fumes

 

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You need to have your evaporative fuel system looked at. Could be the valve, carbon canister setup

The pressure comes from the fuel pump is constantly circulating fuel, so you have warm fuel returning to tank

Stephen Jackson
Canoe-ventures

On Jun 20, 2015, at 9:59 AM, tidalwaifs@... [ev_update] <ev_update@...> wrote:

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A few weeks ago, I smelled gas coming from under my 97 EVC. I have been unable to find the cause. The smell has been intermittent, three times over a one-month period. When it comes it is strong, but not overpowering. I can find no drips under the van or signs of leaks. After a few hours the smell dissipates. Each time it coincided with a 100 plus mile trip in hot weather (90 degrees.)


Yesterday I was able to make a diagnosis.? The tank seems to be under considerable pressure.? After yesterdays trip I once again smelled gas. I opened the gas cap and a rush of fumes expelled for a good couple of minutes until it finally stopped. This is the first time I noticed this, though previously I may not have opened the cap until the van had been at rest for several hours.


I am assuming that the tank has a pressure release vent that may be clogged. If this is the problem, how do I go about fixing it? But even if this is the problem, why would the tank be pressurized? I would have thought the opposite would occur. And why would the condition be intermittent?


I fear that I am driving a time bomb that could literally explode. I won¡¯t be driving until I solve the problem.

Does anyone have insight into this problem? I¡¯d appreciate any advice or insights. By the way, I am currently in Santa Fe in case anyone knows of a good shop in this area.

?

Thanks,

Dan

97 EVC



Re: {Disarmed} Gas Tank is releasing dangerous fumes

 

? Hello Dan - readers:
This topic has arisen and been discussed within the past year. It is not uncommon for the fuel tank Vent in VW Evs to become filled (clogged) with fuel - this usually occurs when the tank is filled, but additional fuel is (forced to top-off) pumped in (? trying to get to a round $ or whatever)..
I dont recall just where (the access to) the breather pipe is - but using compressed air to re-open the pipe-tube? was recommended.? Other opinions should be helpful too.
? Happy Trails!

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 9:46 AM, TYA2 tya2@... [ev_update] <ev_update@...> wrote:
?

I believe the tank vent is clogged.


At 08:59 AM 2015-06-20 -0700, you wrote:


A few weeks ago, I smelled gas coming from under my 97 EVC. I have been unable to find the cause. The smell has been intermittent, three times over a one-month period. When it comes it is strong, but not overpowering. I can find no drips under the van or signs of leaks. After a few hours the smell dissipates. Each time it coincided with a 100 plus mile trip in hot weather (90 degrees.)

Yesterday I was able to make a diagnosis.? The tank seems to be under considerable pressure.? After yesterdays trip I once again smelled gas. I opened the gas cap and a rush of fumes expelled for a good couple of minutes until it finally stopped. This is the first time I noticed this, though previously I may not have opened the cap until the van had been at rest for several hours.


I am assuming that the tank has a pressure release vent that may be clogged. If this is the problem, how do I go about fixing it? But even if this is the problem, why would the tank be pressurized? I would have thought the opposite would occur. And why would the condition be intermittent?


I fear that I am driving a time bomb that could literally explode. I won?€?t be driving until I solve the problem.

Does anyone have insight into this problem? I?€?d appreciate any advice or insights. By the way, I am currently in Santa Fe in case anyone knows of a good shop in this area.

?

Thanks,

Dan

97 EVC