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Re: Transmission Woes

 

I read somewhere that VW consider the differential section of an automatic transmission to be 'sealed for life', probably they did not consider the high mileages we put on these vehicles. GoWesty sells an oil, the diff section takes 2 quarts.

On Friday, June 4, 2021, 1:50:03 PM PDT, moedig <maurice@...> wrote:





All great questions.? To further complicate things, the shop I take my van to sends it out to a place in Sacramento for the Transmission rebuild.? I don't get to talk to him directly... only through the local shop itself.? ?The Van has been in Sacramento since the beginning of May.? And all I heard was... yep the Differential was dry and now they're looking for a core to get parts from. :( .? ? The Engine bay is clean, the transmission body itself is clean.? If there was a leak I and the other 2 shops that saw the VAN and recommended I take it back to the shop that rebuilt it would've noticed a leak of some sort.? Is it possible that is could leak in the Transmission area or is the differential sealed from the Transmission geabox?


Re: Transmission Woes

 

All great questions.? To further complicate things, the shop I take my van to sends it out to a place in Sacramento for the Transmission rebuild.? I don't get to talk to him directly... only through the local shop itself.? ?The Van has been in Sacramento since the beginning of May.? And all I heard was... yep the Differential was dry and now they're looking for a core to get parts from. :( .? ? The Engine bay is clean, the transmission body itself is clean.? If there was a leak I and the other 2 shops that saw the VAN and recommended I take it back to the shop that rebuilt it would've noticed a leak of some sort.? Is it possible that is could leak in the Transmission area or is the differential sealed from the Transmission geabox?


Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP #Norcold

 

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I used woodstove gasket cement ( red? hi-temp RTV used for installing door gaskets)

Sam

02 EVC

On 6/4/2021 3:28 PM, Russell 98 RC/FD Double via groups.io wrote:

Not David, but I used a bead of red Pematex in lieu of the gasket.? Worked well.
Russell
98 Rialta


Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP #Norcold

Russell 98 RC/FD Double
 

Not David, but I used a bead of red Pematex in lieu of the gasket.? Worked well.
Russell
98 Rialta


Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP #Norcold

Yves Desilets
 

Hi David,

Can you tell me how your proceeded to take your old burner off the burner box without damaging the big 'ORANGE' gasket on the side of the box ? I bought a new burner and would like to change it myself but I'm afraid to do so because of the gasket !!! So far, I've removed the Norcold twice to clean the burner in the box and took time also to insulate the back of the fridge and put a switch on the board for the small fan on the coils side.....

Yves
'97EVC
Canada


Re: Transmission Woes

Yves Desilets
 

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Maybe they forgot to put some o?l in the differential during the rebuild. It’s not normal for a differential to be emply of o?l and it’s not the same o?l used as the one in the transmission !!!

When I had my rebuild last year, the guy had to change the cage in the differential along with the pinion gear that were shot.....The pinion gear itself is almost Worth $ 1,000.00 CAD !!!

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Yves

‘97贰痴颁

Canada

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Re: Transmission Woes

 

We communicated on the Eurovan FaceBook site.
Something was wrong.
Why would the differential be totally dry? Could it, did it leak out after the sensor
melted. If so, why did it get so hot that the sensor melted? Other Eurovan sensors
aren't melting. Which came first, no gear oil in the first place, differential got so hot it melted
the sensor allowing loss of gear oil?
You could contact German Transaxle in Bend, Oregon. They definitely would have a differential or
differential parts. I feel they are the premier Eurovan automatic transmission gurus. Whether or not they
would provide those without handling the rebuild is another matter.

Kent Kirkley
'97 EVC



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From: moedig <maurice@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, Jun 4, 2021 12:31 pm
Subject: Re: [eurovanupdate] Transmission Woes

All great info everyone.? Thanks.? To get back on topic, specifically around the differential on the final drive of the transmission, my question is this: Since my Transmission was rebuilt in October of 2019, then 6000 miles was put on it after the rebuild, with my recent problem of a dry differential causing my speedo sensor to melt and my transmission needing a new differential.? Considering the tech cannot find specific differential parts to rebuild, he's now looking for another core to use parts from.? Should I expect to have to pay for this considering gear oil was non existent?? Is it possible that after the rebuild, normal wear would cause such a situation that I should expect to pay for?? OR should I assume that there was an oversight in the initial rebuild.? ?I of course feel the latter since I complained of vibration and whining post rebuild of the transmission.? The shop reviewed and stated nothing was wrong.? Looking back I think now it was a clear indication that there was a problem with the transmission.? Thoughts?


Re: Transmission Woes

 

All great info everyone.? Thanks.? To get back on topic, specifically around the differential on the final drive of the transmission, my question is this: Since my Transmission was rebuilt in October of 2019, then 6000 miles was put on it after the rebuild, with my recent problem of a dry differential causing my speedo sensor to melt and my transmission needing a new differential.? Considering the tech cannot find specific differential parts to rebuild, he's now looking for another core to use parts from.? Should I expect to have to pay for this considering gear oil was non existent?? Is it possible that after the rebuild, normal wear would cause such a situation that I should expect to pay for?? OR should I assume that there was an oversight in the initial rebuild.? ?I of course feel the latter since I complained of vibration and whining post rebuild of the transmission.? The shop reviewed and stated nothing was wrong.? Looking back I think now it was a clear indication that there was a problem with the transmission.? Thoughts?


Re: Transmission Woes

 

Yes.? You never want the TC clutch to cycle much.? OK on light loads/grades.?
But on steep upgrades do the down shift.? depending on the length and steepness.? Long Interstate grades In D2 is ok to drive 45 MPH behind the trucks.? In that low gear plenty of torque so the clutch stays in solid lock.? I downshift on any grade longer than a city block.

often you hear the down shift as the revs pick up.? But its not really the downshift.? Its the TC slipping via the pulsating clutch to keep the revs up while remain in the higher gears.? (they did that in order to increase MPG.)? Fine for the Passat.? but our heavy rigs, you will have high fluid temperatures.? The external cooler has been known to burst ruining tranns.? Albeit you will get better MPG with the cooler so the tranny runs more in the higher gear.? Once lugging is sensed, the clutch unloads the engine for more revs which =more HP..? There is the heat source.


Re: Nokian Entyre 2.0 Availability

Phil
 

Michael
I have a 2003 EV Weekender Pop-top with a typically heavy load- tools (75#), ?rack, 65 L Dometic chest Refrige 2 adults, beach paraphernalia, travel luggage, etc. I use Nokian Entyre 2.0 235/60/16 104 HT’s all wheels with 44# on all wheels and find that perfect. I grant it’s not a “camper” version. ?I switched to 235’s some time ago due to lack of availability of high load tires. Some would have to chime in on the fit for a Camper version. They are tight on mine but with no modification they have never hit fenders etc. ?They have treated me well and are great in heavy rain, and general driving, and get good milage on the tires. ?Cannot say about snow as I left Pa years ago and avoid it on trips normally. YMMV.
Phil B 2003 EV WE 289 kmi


Re: Nokian Entyre 2.0 Availability

 

The Winnebago sticker on my 2002 full camper specifies 49 psi for both front and rear tires (225/60-16 102H).

David
2002 EVC


Re: Nokian Entyre 2.0 Availability

 

Mine has a sticker on the door jam.? All of my Vw / Audis have the sticker.? It calls out pressure for front and back, for different number of passengers.? ?I would imagine that this is for stock size tires that they list on there also.



Re: Nokian Entyre 2.0 Availability

 

Michael isn't the WRC3 more like a snow tire? Would that be a cause for the soft ride?
Spencer


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 6:56 PM Michael Diehr <md03@...> wrote:
Just returned from a road trip, and with my fully loaded EVC, 46 psi all around in the 16" wheels with Nokia WR-C 225/60-16, it felt a bit squishy.? I'll probably go a bit higher on the next trip.

Question for all: do the 2001 and later Eurovan Campers with 16" wheels specify different front/rear pressures?? ?

> On May 31, 2021, at 7:45 AM, mma2 <rahom@...> wrote:
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> Michael,
> If it helps, I've been running the Entyre 2.0's at 46 psi.? Seems to give a good ride with the EVC loaded with our gear but with the water reservoir empty.? The stated max is 51 psi for these tires.







Re: Nokian Entyre 2.0 Availability

 

Just returned from a road trip, and with my fully loaded EVC, 46 psi all around in the 16" wheels with Nokia WR-C 225/60-16, it felt a bit squishy. I'll probably go a bit higher on the next trip.

Question for all: do the 2001 and later Eurovan Campers with 16" wheels specify different front/rear pressures?

On May 31, 2021, at 7:45 AM, mma2 <rahom@...> wrote:
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Michael,
If it helps, I've been running the Entyre 2.0's at 46 psi. Seems to give a good ride with the EVC loaded with our gear but with the water reservoir empty. The stated max is 51 psi for these tires.


Re: Transmission Woes

 

Burt
are you saying if you downshift to third gear the TC stays locked up ? ? Or second gear TC stayed locked up ?
leo 1998 ? 200,000 + same transmission?


Re: Transmission Woes

 

The fluid breaks down with high temps.? Loses lubricity and varnishes up the valve body.? You can save money on tranny repairs and fluid changes with one simple TRICK.? Forget its an automatic.? On a long grades and short downshift manually.? The trick is to keep the gears in SOLID LOCK as opposed to theT C working with its fluid submerged pulsating clutches.?
Am original owner with over 175K ODO miles.? It took me 15 tears to figure it out.? No more overheated fluid, no limp modes and no more frequent ATF fluid changes.

On the highways long grades, I just slow down into D3 along with the 18 wheeler on long grades.? Short steep grades of a few blocks, just go into D2.? Then test my experience and do it again with full automatic and downshifting manually to see the difference in fluid temperatures by comparing.

The last 4 years..Same fluid, and only rare worst short spikes of maybe 220F.? Which OK as long as its short term.?

Burt 99 HD original owner


Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP #Norcold

 

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On 6/1/2021 9:19 PM, David Horner wrote:

Sam, two questions:
1. ?Re: Fan. ?The Norcold service manual says the fan thermostat is calibrated to turn on the fan when the van's interior temperature is above 85 F. ?That wasn't the case in the situations in which I was operating, ?so I guess that means the fan wouldn't have turned on. ?Does anyone bypass the thermostat and just leave the fan running when in LP mode?
2. ?Re: Thermostat. ?Which thermostat are you about to replace? ?The gas valve/thermostat dial on the front of the unit? ?The fan thermostat?

David
2002 EVC


Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP #Norcold

 

Look it up on internet, you can make a meter and check it on stove burner outlet.
leo 1998


Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP #Norcold

 

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David

I'm replacing the gas valve thermostat on the front panel. I ditched the fan thermostat years ago and just installed a switch on the front panel. I installed? 2 computer fans in place of the 1 Winnebago installed ( lived in NM at the time- much warmer than VA where we live now).


sam

On 6/1/2021 9:19 PM, David Horner wrote:

Sam, two questions:
1. ?Re: Fan. ?The Norcold service manual says the fan thermostat is calibrated to turn on the fan when the van's interior temperature is above 85 F. ?That wasn't the case in the situations in which I was operating, ?so I guess that means the fan wouldn't have turned on. ?Does anyone bypass the thermostat and just leave the fan running when in LP mode?
2. ?Re: Thermostat. ?Which thermostat are you about to replace? ?The gas valve/thermostat dial on the front of the unit? ?The fan thermostat?

David
2002 EVC


Re: Norcold not cooling well on LP #Norcold

 

One more question for everyone...
Could the propane regulator be malfunctioning? ?Can this be tested? ?I saw a comment on another site from an owner who attributed his poor Norcold LP function to low outlet pressure from old regulator.

David