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Re: CNC Router Pendant Controller - I want to micro step to start at 0,0,0,
#WOOD
I know what I want to accomplish, but I'm not sure I am communicating properly.? Is MK3 = Mach 3??
Thanks - Tamra PLEASE READ!!: Main?differences between PlanetCNC TNG and CNC USB controller software:1.) You can use two motion control software’s from PlanetCNC with your MK3 series controller: Tamra |
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Re: CNC Router Pendant Controller - I want to micro step to start at 0,0,0,
#WOOD
Thanks John, this is similar to the controller that I had with Mach 3 for the DWC Router.? This would be a substantial improvement, if I can get it to communicate with Planet CNC TNG.? I am sure they are sourcing products and then marking them up with assembly and User support.? ALL are valuable of course.? In this model of assembly/sales you stay captive to the maker of your CNC Router.
Perhaps I need to contact them directly and go around the seller of the units and ask directly with Planet CNC TNG if the Pendant Controller can be added to my unit. Is this logical question to the software developer.? ? I think the software is from Slovenia...??? I feel like I am on the brink of being able to set up the communication between the software and the machine for a Pendant Controller.? I just need to tell Planet CNC this controller is now plugged in via USB and the resolution of the steppers.? Essentially as if I were loading a printer driver for printer; instead I need to create an additional "Profile for the Pendant" . I do not have the confidence to move back to Mach 3 because I anticipate I would be on my own at that point. I suspect the model of assemble, sale and build your own brand allows the vendor to have some control to support the customer but upgrading again just seems like a repetitive pattern to eventually the concept of subscription model, where I pay them for a piece of equipment I already own. I had an unhappy complicated experience with Bob Cad v xx. I think you need a lot of experience for Bob Cad, ie mfg experience and my experience was playing with graphic software.? ? The most complicated thing I could do in past with software before this, is that I could program macros for Lotus 1-2-3, and Excel, using tables.? Although I have not needed to do this for a while.??After I purchased a Vectric Product my learning curve became more intuitive and I was able to manage simple 2D operations with ease.? ?I am happy with Vectric for my CAD/CAM and the post processors exist for Vectric from DWC.? They just don't want to give me pendant.? Their pendant doesn't have a dial which I believe is a happier user experience for micro stepping.?? All of this is because I don't think the machine returns to 0,0,0, precisely. It is easier for me to mark 0,0,0, manually and adjust it manually but the EXACT same steppers are not as easy to move the router as they used to be with a pendant.? It is like I lost some steps, so I spend 6 minutes getting back to 0,0,0, for a 2 sided job that will run 3 minutes.? Makes me crazy.? My 2 sided jobs need to be as precise as possible. I would prefer my next upgrade would be a water cooled spindle as I don't like the noise of the router, but I haven't actually heard a water cooled spindle in use, but getting rid of the loudness of the router would be welcomed; I simply wear ear plugs all the time when I'm in the shop babysitting my machine.? Generally, my jobs are not long running, so I don't leave it unattended for long.? I have a there best option of Porter Cable Router and with my minimal use this router is going to last for a long time; and I'm sure I can replace the brushes should it need them before I need to replace the Porter Cable Router. More then a year ago I was "teased" with they would program a game controller as a Pendant for my generation machine, but I'm tired of waiting... the world is still fighting the Pandemic. I can review the video they have posted to use the Staples numeric controller, but I don't understand the parameters of the pendant controller to even play with it.? How do I figure out the pendant's requirements, is this only a function of the stepper motors? And that surge toasted my old system.? I do own all my software legally and have all my receipts including Mach3.? Planet CNC TNG, Vectric, Bob Cad, Corel Draw, etc.?? Thanks - Tamra |
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I do not know why, oh well. If any members are confused, then please ask me or as Richard of the UK says YELL OUT. Please lets hear from the members of this wonderful group.? Take care, be aware of your surroundings, friends and family. The roads to evil can be paved with good intent. -- John |
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Hello to all forum members and a special apology from me.
We have all had ways of dealing with the Covid pandemic, and I had a leaning of being totally inward and introvert with? our severe "lockdowns" which were hard and brutal here in Spain. So i became LAZY in my communications. Again I apologise. This normally is not me but I sadly miss the music processions Easter and Xmas and summer fiestas that in the past 14 years I have enjoyed? playing my saxophone and being part of the total village atmospheres. Yes it?s been hard 14 months for us all worldwide. But hopefully we are all coming to terms with the severity and dealing with the future sensibly and making the best of life as we know now it. This extra time has kept me very busy in both mind and body to work in my machine shop and be productive, and hoping this has been the same? for a lot of us. So no excuse for not having the spare time unless you want to be in? Gods waiting room, and this is not any of my members of this forum. So, my Real Bull 7" mini lathe was never supplied with a 3 arm steady, 2 arm yes but I needed to replace th finger end to rollers to roller bearings. If I have put the photo?s in the correct order, ??m? then you will follow my logic in making a 3 arm lathe steady, can be good for holding up to 50 mm dia bar x 230 mm long, nd that is quite significant for a mini lathe. photo1? 152 mm dia alloy I call a biscuit , held in the chuck with soft jaws, standard hard jaws will not be possible. faced both sides to 20 mm thick. Topped to 150 mm dia. Facing using the CSS, constant surface feed, IE the spindle speed increases towards the the spindle center line, see CSS in the old forum posts. Bored a 40 mm dia manufacturing hole. Bored a 40 mm spigot hole in my mill tooling plate and drilled in 4 x manf securing holes that pick up off existing bolt holes in the table. photo2 The biscuit was then sliced in half on my favourite tool, a power saw I built, and uses just hacksaw blades. 80% of the parts I used to build this came from a Chinese cheapo drill press. Saw Drawings from myfordboy. Thanks Dave Abbot. photos 3 4 5 .the half biscuits profile milled using my mini Weiss mill and the DDCS v3.1 CNC system, as just recently posted to Tamra. photos 7 8 9 10 11 12 check fitting and making up the arms etc etc. All simple stuff. The brass Mecano plate I made? many years ago when building Minnie a model steam tractor? and bolts to the bed and th steady bolts to that. Fortunately more good luck than judgement, the total stack up height of the steady with mecano plate was dead on the c/line? of the lathe spindle Phew.?? photo 13? A check fit of a 50 mm dia bung held in the chuck jaws and the 3 arm steady, fingers and arms adjusted accordingly. photo 14? A 52 mm dia bar held chuck end. photo 15 A manf rail turned in held by the steady to just clean up the bar to round. photo 16 The steady then is repositioned over the rail and arms again adjusted accordingly. Then a trial facing and surfacing cuts were done to prove out the steady. photo 17 Especially for Tamra The DDCS CNC Ver 3.1? giving an image of the shape it will cut before starting up the machine. Very useful in the past I can assure you. better Oops. before the cutters enter into oblivion LOL. Photo 18 The DDCS Ver 3.1 coordinates versus the Blu tooth DRO, You will see a difference of X by a minimal amount, this is where the backlash in the screw which is read off the? DRO, but it catches up. It is the DDCS that is th master in control. All DDCS? 4 axis have backlash settings, along with 200 settings that can define the machine you have and accuracy you need. Hope all this meets with members approval, if you do not understand then reply ??? LOL possibly a cup of coffee to digest all the photos. Thanks -- John |
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Re: CNC Router Pendant Controller - I want to micro step to start at 0,0,0,
#WOOD
Nice to read your post.
Normally the difference between a router and a mill (not always) is that a mill column is fixed in the X and Y axis and the tables move. Where a router again normally the X axis moves on a carriage. Y axis as per a mill. This can make machines more compact. The Z axis Up and down are the same. On my converted CNC mill I use (see link) this 4 axis pendant or MPG Manual Pulse Generator. https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005001959925033.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.55742ddc7vPGhi&algo_pvid=5cfd4e00-4fa9-4fbb-8b74-ff81a0b5c3db&algo_expid=5cfd4e00-4fa9-4fbb-8b74-ff81a0b5c3db-1&btsid=0b0a556416159014621371223e41f5&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ It has an emergency stop and can be operated with the graduated dial in 3 different travel increments and has a fail safe side button, IE it only moves the tables? when depressed, and you turn the dial. Which this can be isolated if you do not need it in your application. Normally comes with a hanging bracket. I have had this same model for 3 years plus and never been a problem. It may be also worth looking at the DDCS ver 3.1 CNC controller which is fitted on my mill,. https://es.aliexpress.com/item/10000055531039.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4df579a9o4Vr6b&algo_pvid=351b61fb-94a3-4764-8509-6941b55b2b6d&algo_expid=351b61fb-94a3-4764-8509-6941b55b2b6d-1&btsid=0b0a050116159026386222718e63bc&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ this is the complete package, all you would need is for a 3 axis machine 3 x stepper motors and 3 x drivers. and power supply and build or adapt to your machine. There should be more info in this forum to help explain a bit more, if not then let us know. I have a bunch of post processors for my g code generating, what CAD CAM programme are you using ?? I may be able to help you out with what I use, CAD CAM needs Windows 7 32 bit. but contact me via private email if interested. Stay healthy,? John -- John |
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CNC Router Pendant Controller - I want to micro step to start at 0,0,0,
#WOOD
I think a Mill usually is used for metals.
I think a CNC router is similar to a mill, but used more frequently with wood.? I have a used Digiital Wood Carver CNC.? I am using this CNC router for small projects for me.?? I'm frustrated with the mfg, as everything they want to sell me costs $600 in upgrades + the accessory, so I'm trying to find a solution without the forced migration.? I would like to retire someday far in the future. I don't want to go to a CNC wood forum as I don't want to be negative about the mfg, I just don't want to spend and upgrade again. (I usually like to spend money, so this is actually strange that I'm not buying what they are trying to sell me.? ? My husband bought me a used system.?? Do you know written posts, instructions etc??? Is there anything that will help me program a pendant controller, so I can micro step? Is there anyone in the group using Planet CNC TNG? And do you have any recommendations for good pendant controllers?? I want one with a dial, not arrow keys. I apologize if this is not the appropriate forum for my question... if so. I won't be offended just direct me elsewhere. Stay Safe! Thanks, Tamra |
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Re: Storage of reamers and other metal items
#MILLS
Might also look up the recipe for machinable wax. It's a mix of plastic and wax, and is hard enough to protect an edge, and soft enough to be machinable for practice, or for parts that need to be investment cast. Stuff ain't cheap to buy, but it's not expensive to make.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 08:34:16 PM CST, Cornelius Wessels <cwessels@...> wrote:
I have used the blue flexible jewelers wax with great succes. It is a lot tougher than candle wax . You will have to dip it two or three times .? It cost about $20 for 2 pounds on Ebay.?
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Tamra
John Lindo
Bill in OKC too