That's a really good question and not easily answered. ? If you are happy with a keyboard, mouse, perhaps touchscreen and of course the PC beside your PC then the answer is LinuxCNC is better. ? If all you want is the occasional metric thread on an imperial lathe (or the other way around) and perhaps power feed that stops 0.001" from the spinning chuck jaw without the space taken up by a PC then you have two choices.? An Electronic Lead Screw kit or Automatic Gearing with a travel limit.? And we're really just talking about systems that have only the Z axis (Carriage) powered. ? Add a motor to the cross slide and we slide (ha ha) closer into the CNC side of things.? Once you have control of both axis the possibility of tapering is possible.? Or even tapered threading.? And if you only use the lathe 5x per year and thread only once then the effort to learn/relearn the G-Codes to do simple things becomes mostly annoying. ? Today I had a plastic plumbing fitting that tapered in a bit.? I just wanted to slide in a brass insert and epoxy it in place.? I mounted it in the chuck, installed a boring bar and with the hand wheel moved in, tweaked the cross slide till it scraped and then slowly moved the hand wheel until I felt it touch the bottom.? ? Moved the carriage out of the way, test fit the brass piece. ?Now it slid in to the bottom.? Job done.? All possible with a pendant and LinuxCNC except that it's probably a good idea to measure how deep and set a zero first.? Harder to 'feel' when the bottom is reached.? Could have done it with my ELS.? Just easier to do it manually. ? So it boils down to what you do with your lathe, how much space you have, and if you want to power both axis. ? John Dammeyer ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Trantow
Sent: July-22-21 6:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] ELS? What is the argument?for ELS over LinuxCNC? I've been completely happy with LinuxCNC especially after installing the lathe macros. ? I’m sure that I’ll need more than your kit to make it work. Like drivers power supply and more. Let me know what else will be needed. Thanks
Will Campbell
51300 Courtney lane
Oakhurst Ca 93644
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What is the argument?for ELS over LinuxCNC? I've been completely happy with LinuxCNC especially after installing the lathe macros.
I’m sure that I’ll need more than your kit to make it work. Like drivers power supply and more. Let me know what else will be needed. Thanks
Will Campbell
51300 Courtney lane
Oakhurst Ca 93644
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John, why is the RELS still pulled? Six months ago Egor said he had wanted his code to be open source.
I probably?need to ask Richard. I have not been to the Russian forum in a long time there might be new discussions.
Ralph
Ralph, what a darling you are. I do not need any financial help, I started this forum with knowledge of all the financial obligations,? and will continue with the help of "hello" posts from all my friends all over the world. You will notice that there should be NO advertisements or propagande when you click onto this forum. Try this with facebook twitter etc etc.
Again Ralph
?
John, we will help pay for the group.
If you want we can use my paypal account rhulslander g? mail.
Ralph
Will I am sorry that the total ELS and now RELS has been pulled from the digitalhobbyist forum. My latest RELS is so perfect?that I will never stray away. It is all down to Richard? UK to decide if he wants to reply. I very much doubt it and so we are in an impasse, He was the inventor, the guru. the absolute British lecky scientist and a fabulous machinist. Without his pure genius, then it's best to pull the digitalhobbyist plug and save me $150 per year I have it all, RELS, CNC 4 axis mill, 3D printing, so what more do I need.??? Certainly not armchair engineers. So sorry. John
I've been following this group for some time now and am looking for a ELS for my small lathe.
There was a post from John that he was finishing a few kits and making them available when completed.
I sent him a reply that I would like to have one and got a reply saying I would be on his list to get one when they were completed.
It's been some time now but have not gotten any word if they are done.
I want to install a two axis unit so I can do threading.
Does anyone know if the ELS units have completed?
?Thanks Will
Ralph,
I am going by John's original post, which said:
30 days of no posts even hello will drop you out.
Perhaps he will reconsider...
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Regards,
Charlie
New Jersey, USA
SATTINGER’S LAW: It works better if you plug it in.
EDWARD'S LAW: It works even better if you turn it on.
--
John
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Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Hello from Finland :-).
Cheers, Kaj
All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+?
Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"?
then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics.
I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.?
The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday
and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and
hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers.
Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much.
I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way?
many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ?
It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how
to improve this forum or anything.??
All?the best to fellow hobbyists.
John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
#MILLS
#CNC
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
#MILLS
#CNC
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All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+?
Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"?
then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics.
I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.?
The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday
and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and
hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers.
Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much.
I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way?
many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ?
It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how
to improve this forum or anything.??
All?the best to fellow hobbyists.
John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
#MILLS
#CNC
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All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+?
Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"?
then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics.
I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.?
The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday
and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and
hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers.
Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much.
I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way?
many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ?
It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how
to improve this forum or anything.??
All?the best to fellow hobbyists.
John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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John
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Hi John , Hello I am still learning and appreciate your efforts given enough knowledge I will contribute.
Cheers
Allen
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Well, it is now 222 members, it was 266 only about 5 hours ago... a greater than 15% membership decrease
And if John sends a thumbs emoji to the group, instead of replying to the sender (there is a link in every email that directs the reply to the sender, it's in Blue and underlined) guess what - it is double the number of hello emails...
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:55 AM robfliesrc < rob@...> wrote: Goodbye. I don't need 3000 emails per year saying "hello".
That's what 260+ members posting once every 30 days means.
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I’m sure that I’ll need more than your kit to make it work. Like drivers power supply and more. Let me know what else will be needed. Thanks
Will Campbell
51300 Courtney lane
Oakhurst Ca 93644
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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#CNC
I just went "No Email" and John can let me stay or kick me off, as he sees fit. It's his site.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 12:55:09 PM CDT, robfliesrc <rob@...> wrote:
Goodbye. I don't need 3000 emails per year saying "hello".
That's what 260+ members posting once every 30 days means.
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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#CNC
Goodbye. I don't need 3000 emails per year saying "hello".
That's what 260+ members posting once every 30 days means.
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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#CNC
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“and I do not think blaming the?Covid
pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists."
?
?
Just because that is YOUR experience, does not make it everyone’s experience. {And yes a realize you are not exactly saying that it is}
Personally, I was considered “essential” and as a result had 0 “down” time due to covid, AND have had both knees replaced (one at a time) during the pandemic.
I have had almost 0 shop time since it started.
?
On the other hand, I think you are somewhat correct, in what I believe to be your intent.
A forum like this withers and dies if there are no relevant posts, but a flood of “hello” every X days ?would not really stop that.
Such posts are like weeds in the garden, but at least they are not spam and scam.
?
?
?
 Jim
Klessig
Senior Power Systems Engineer
?
Phone
+1 707.497.9611?
Jim.Klessig@...?
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They are still a waste of time, even if only a few seconds each. Time which cannot be recovered.?
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 11:32:28 AM CDT, Jim.Klessig@... <jim.klessig@...> wrote:
“and I do not think blaming the?Covid
pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists."
?
?
Just because that is YOUR experience, does not make it everyone’s experience. {And yes a realize you are not exactly saying that it is}
Personally, I was considered “essential” and as a result had 0 “down” time due to covid, AND have had both knees replaced (one at a time) during the pandemic.
I have had almost 0 shop time since it started.
?
On the other hand, I think you are somewhat correct, in what I believe to be your intent.
A forum like this withers and dies if there are no relevant posts, but a flood of “hello” every X days ?would not really stop that.
Such posts are like weeds in the garden, but at least they are not spam and scam.
?
?
?
 Jim
Klessig
Senior Power Systems Engineer
?
Phone
+1 707.497.9611?
Jim.Klessig@...?
|? Connect with us at
?
?
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information protected by law. If you received this e-mail
in error, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the e-mail is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies from your system.
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#CNC
??? ??? ditto . I think the mechanical is the first step to get
to digital , & then there's the learning on mechanical
decisions
??? ??? animal
On 7/22/2021 7:05 AM, CLevinski wrote:
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Jim,
I would be interested, including any mechanical work.
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Charlie
New Jersey, USA
SATTINGER’S
LAW: It works better if you plug it in.
EDWARD'S LAW: It works even better if you turn it on.
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??? ??? I have not been a contributor , still in learning mode
& I think the hard part to this 30 day deal is to remember to
say hello every 30 days . Is there some way that the list can send
some sort of " hello "? out once a month
??? ??? like the list guidelines that comes out & then we can
reply to that ? That way the " hello " is being received &
they? should be pretty much at around the same time so it would be
easier on the moderators end to see who
??? ??? " hello's " back?
??? ??? animal
On 7/22/2021 1:31 AM, John Lindo wrote:
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All
I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+?
Nothing
more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond
with a simple "hello"?
then
they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any
of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics.
I
do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital
hobbyists than this one.?
The
last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we
were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday
and
I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any
relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown"
over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our
hands to be hobbyists. and
hit
the?computer keyboard with questions and answers.
Gene,
you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much.
I
am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue
with the forum or it goes the way?
many
other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy
?
It
would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this,
but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how
to
improve this forum or anything.??
All?the
best to fellow hobbyists.
John
I
remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very
peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a
topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being
discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very
rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to
contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one
kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many
internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a
single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of
rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly
listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community
where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you
kicked out.
I wish JimJohn
was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this
post :)
Cheers
Gene
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John
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#CNC
Hello,
I’m one of those that seldom posts to the forum.
I continue to look at all the posts, and enjoy learning from the experience of other forum members.
I post seldom, because I seldom have anything to say that would add to the discussion.
Gordon
Gordon Taylor
gptaylor98363@...
Those that say a job cannot be done should not interrupt those that are doing it. ― George Bernard Shaw
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Sent: Thu 7 22 2021 3:31:05 AM
Subject: Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion #MILLS #CNC
All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+?
Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"?
then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics.
I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.?
The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday
and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and
hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers.
Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much.
I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way?
many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ?
It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how
to improve this forum or anything.??
All?the best to fellow hobbyists.
?
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
--
John
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
#MILLS
#CNC
“and I do not think blaming the?Covid
pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists."
?
?
Just because that is YOUR experience, does not make it everyone’s experience. {And yes a realize you are not exactly saying that it is}
Personally, I was considered “essential” and as a result had 0 “down” time due to covid, AND have had both knees replaced (one at a time) during the pandemic.
I have had almost 0 shop time since it started.
?
On the other hand, I think you are somewhat correct, in what I believe to be your intent.
A forum like this withers and dies if there are no relevant posts, but a flood of “hello” every X days ?would not really stop that.
Such posts are like weeds in the garden, but at least they are not spam and scam.
?
?
?
 Jim
Klessig
Senior Power Systems Engineer
?
Phone
+1 707.497.9611?
Jim.Klessig@...?
|? Connect with us at
?
?
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed and may contain confidential and privileged information protected by law. If you received this e-mail
in error, any review, use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of the e-mail is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies from your system.
-- Jim Klessig
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Ralph, what a darling you are. I do not need any financial help, I started this forum with knowledge of all the financial obligations,? and will continue with the help of "hello" posts from all my friends all over the world. You will notice that there should be NO advertisements or propagande when you click onto this forum. Try this with facebook twitter etc etc.
Again Ralph
?
John, we will help pay for the group.
If you want we can use my paypal account rhulslander g? mail.
Ralph
Will I am sorry that the total ELS and now RELS has been pulled from the digitalhobbyist forum. My latest RELS is so perfect?that I will never stray away. It is all down to Richard? UK to decide if he wants to reply. I very much doubt it and so we are in an impasse, He was the inventor, the guru. the absolute British lecky scientist and a fabulous machinist. Without his pure genius, then it's best to pull the digitalhobbyist plug and save me $150 per year I have it all, RELS, CNC 4 axis mill, 3D printing, so what more do I need.??? Certainly not armchair engineers. So sorry. John
I've been following this group for some time now and am looking for a ELS for my small lathe.
There was a post from John that he was finishing a few kits and making them available when completed.
I sent him a reply that I would like to have one and got a reply saying I would be on his list to get one when they were completed.
It's been some time now but have not gotten any word if they are done.
I want to install a two axis unit so I can do threading.
Does anyone know if the ELS units have completed?
?Thanks Will
Ralph,
I am going by John's original post, which said:
30 days of no posts even hello will drop you out.
Perhaps he will reconsider...
--
Regards,
Charlie
New Jersey, USA
SATTINGER’S LAW: It works better if you plug it in.
EDWARD'S LAW: It works even better if you turn it on.
--
John
--
Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
--
John
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BuffaloJohn
Bill in OKC too
John Lindo
