Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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Hi John, ? Hello, I will not yet contribute to much. I mainly will read and try to follow discussions. ? Best regards, Leo ?
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Van: [email protected] < [email protected]> Namens John Lindo Verzonden: donderdag 22 juli 2021 10:31 Aan: [email protected]Onderwerp: Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion #MILLS #CNC ? All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+? Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"? then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics. I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.? The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of? "Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers. Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much. I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way? many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ? It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how to improve this forum or anything.?? All?the best to fellow hobbyists. ? I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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I am of two minds about this. In Johns defense, GIO has moved to a per-member charge to all new groups. New free groups can have up tp 100 members, IIRC, and remain free. At 101, they start charging a small fee, though I don't remember off-had if is per member or per new member, in addition to the monthly or annual charge. It steeply increases the cost of a group.?
OTH, I am really only remotely interested in CNC.y real interest is in learning the manual machines I have acquired, and some supplemental 3D printing.?
Older groups like my Metal-Shapers-and-planers group, with 3400 members would be several hundred dollars a month if they weren't grandfathered. Since this is a hobby for me, It would likely get us shut down, and makes starting a new group cost prohibitive.
And I will no longer be able to upgrade any of my smaller groups.?
I seldom post except to answer questions I can look up answers to, or know off the top of my head, and for CNC stuff that ain't much. So I'm another who probably shouldn't be here.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, 03:31:42 AM CDT, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:
All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+? Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"? then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics. I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.? The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of? "Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers. Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much. I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way? many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ? It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how to improve this forum or anything.?? All?the best to fellow hobbyists. John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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John,
I guess, then, that you didn't literally mean saying hello every 30 days :)
I think frequency of messages will come and go, as ocean tide.
As long as (new) people interested in these things will have ways to find a way to this group,
they will sign up and ask questions, or propose their own topics.
If I remember correctly, I was referred to the group by another member, I think it was Ralph.
Don't know how other people find out about it, and decide to sign up.
If anything, the quite general and all-encompassing name might be making it more difficult for people to understand what the group is about? I don't really know what to suggest as an improvement, though.
Perhaps the group just needs new blood, people with interests in these topics and enough time (and lack of excuse-making) to make some projects and post about them. How to find and attract this new blood? I guess making some projects, and writing blog posts / making youtube videos about them, get them noticed by hackaday etc. All with a link to the group.
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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On 22 Jul 2021, at 09:31, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:
? All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+? Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"? then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics. I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.? The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of? "Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers. Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much. I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way? many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ? It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how to improve this forum or anything.?? All?the best to fellow hobbyists. John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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Guess I will say hello then. I am looking to get into the hobby and enjoy learning different perspectives.? My guess is there are quite a few like me who are trying to garner some education until time/money becomes available.?
Thanks, Ron
On Thursday, July 22, 2021, John Lindo < bechetboat@...> wrote: All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+? Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"? then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics. I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.? The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of? "Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers. Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much. I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way? many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ? It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how to improve this forum or anything.?? All?the best to fellow hobbyists. John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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And Hello from me,?
Regards
Phill
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
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Hello?
As requested, ?I will post when I have something to say or of I need help with a problem
Regards
Phil Barlow
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All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+?
Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"?
then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics.
I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.?
The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday
and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of?
"Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and
hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers.
Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much.
I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way?
many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ?
It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how
to improve this forum or anything.??
All?the best to fellow hobbyists.
John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
#MILLS
#CNC
All I am asking is just a "hello" from forum members of 260+? Nothing more or nothing less, if members?cannot be bothered to respond with a simple "hello"? then they have either passed on, or have not been interested in any of the large range of digitalhobbyist topics. I do not think there is a more diversified forum for digital hobbyists than this one.? The last meaningful post was by me in April 2021,?we were?receiving over 50 posts per month in?the?heyday and I do not think blaming the?Covid pandemic has any relevance,?in fact most of us being in some kind of? "Lockdown" over the past year should have meant possibly more time on our hands to be hobbyists. and hit the?computer keyboard with questions and answers. Gene, you have responded "fantastic", and I appreciate it very much. I am just trying to get a reality check on whether we continue with the forum or it goes the way? many other forum groups go and that is down the pan through?apathy ? It would be a pity to pull the plug, I do not want to do this, but again just a simple hello, or even suggestions on how to improve this forum or anything.?? All?the best to fellow hobbyists. John
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
--
John
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Re: Offlist -- RE: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion
#MILLS
#CNC
I remember that "incident" very well. It did strike me as very peculiar, to use a polite term.
It was John L in October 2020 in the "No compound" thread - a topic started by yourself :)
I found and joined this group because the topics being discussed are interesting to me.
I am just learning from the knowledgeable people here and very rarely comment,
because I don't feel like I have something valuable to contribute.
Now I'm hearing that 30 days without posting will get one kicked out from this group.
To be honest, this sounds rather outrageous to me. Many internet forums or discussion groups are owned/operated by a single individual or a small group,
so it's natural that some of them will enforce some kind of rules that make sense to them. These rules are usually clearly listed when you register on the forum.
But so far I haven't participated in an internet community where you are suddenly told that not posting will get you kicked out.
I wish JimJohn was just grumpy, and didn't really mean it?
Wish everyone well, in case I will be kicked out after this post :)
Cheers
Gene
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Look for "reference mark every 50mm" or "quadrature with index" and an R pin?on the connector pin out. When I bought my scales the documentation showed a 'R' pin but I hadn't known enough to order that option. (The ebay seller had something in the listing about letting them know if you wanted the 'R' option.)
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 11:20 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? Jerry , is that something that the vendor nots
somewhere/somehow in the product description ?
??? ??? thanks
??? ??? animal
On 7/21/2021 9:13 PM, Jerry Trantow
wrote:
If you purchase DRO glass scales, I recommend
finding ones that have an index. I believe these may have an
index every so often (every 50mm??) With this feature, you could
eliminate?the home switch or at least avoid any inaccuracies
between your home switch and linear scales. I didn't realize
this was available when I bought scales. Any future purchases
will have this feature. (Trying to justify replacing my lathe
cross slide scale with a 1u with index.).
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 8:33
PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? you can pick up a 3 axis DRO with glass scales
for under $300.00? everything ya need in a few boxes off
Amazon or even the Bay
??? ??? animal
On 7/21/2021 2:19 PM, Glenn N wrote:
I joined the group to see if it
could generate some interest in me doing CNC and CAD. I am
a retired ET with more than 36 years of electronics
background. I put together an all manual machine shop when
I retired 15 years ago. I purposely avoided anything to do
with electronics as I am burned out on it. I even built
the shumatech DRO350...what a shitshow that turned out to
be. Poor design with lots of noise issues. Even down to
getting the polarity wrong so you have to use batteries
with the scales...Frustrations I don't need. So, I bought
the DRO 550 as it was supposed to be excellent and a huge
improvement...then people started using them and all the
glitches started falling out. Fortunately I hadn't bought
glass scales yet and all the parts are still in the box.
So I will quit lurking and go elsewhere.
Glenn
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??? ??? Jerry , is that something that the vendor nots
somewhere/somehow in the product description ?
??? ??? thanks
??? ??? animal
On 7/21/2021 9:13 PM, Jerry Trantow
wrote:
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If you purchase DRO glass scales, I recommend
finding ones that have an index. I believe these may have an
index every so often (every 50mm??) With this feature, you could
eliminate?the home switch or at least avoid any inaccuracies
between your home switch and linear scales. I didn't realize
this was available when I bought scales. Any future purchases
will have this feature. (Trying to justify replacing my lathe
cross slide scale with a 1u with index.).
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 8:33
PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? you can pick up a 3 axis DRO with glass scales
for under $300.00? everything ya need in a few boxes off
Amazon or even the Bay
??? ??? animal
On 7/21/2021 2:19 PM, Glenn N wrote:
I joined the group to see if it
could generate some interest in me doing CNC and CAD. I am
a retired ET with more than 36 years of electronics
background. I put together an all manual machine shop when
I retired 15 years ago. I purposely avoided anything to do
with electronics as I am burned out on it. I even built
the shumatech DRO350...what a shitshow that turned out to
be. Poor design with lots of noise issues. Even down to
getting the polarity wrong so you have to use batteries
with the scales...Frustrations I don't need. So, I bought
the DRO 550 as it was supposed to be excellent and a huge
improvement...then people started using them and all the
glitches started falling out. Fortunately I hadn't bought
glass scales yet and all the parts are still in the box.
So I will quit lurking and go elsewhere.
Glenn
|
If you purchase DRO glass scales, I recommend finding ones that have an index. I believe these may have an index every so often (every 50mm??) With this feature, you could eliminate?the home switch or at least avoid any inaccuracies between your home switch and linear scales. I didn't realize this was available when I bought scales. Any future purchases will have this feature. (Trying to justify replacing my lathe cross slide scale with a 1u with index.).
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 8:33 PM mike allen < animal@...> wrote:
??? ??? you can pick up a 3 axis DRO with glass scales for under
$300.00? everything ya need in a few boxes off Amazon or even the
Bay
??? ??? animal
On 7/21/2021 2:19 PM, Glenn N wrote:
I joined the group to see if it could generate some interest in me
doing CNC and CAD. I am a retired ET with more than 36 years of
electronics background. I put together an all manual machine shop
when I retired 15 years ago. I purposely avoided anything to do
with electronics as I am burned out on it. I even built the
shumatech DRO350...what a shitshow that turned out to be. Poor
design with lots of noise issues. Even down to getting the
polarity wrong so you have to use batteries with the
scales...Frustrations I don't need. So, I bought the DRO 550 as it
was supposed to be excellent and a huge improvement...then people
started using them and all the glitches started falling out.
Fortunately I hadn't bought glass scales yet and all the parts are
still in the box.
So I will quit lurking and go elsewhere.
Glenn
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I have silently been a member of this
group (never before today commented) because I can not contribute
or even comment intelligently due to being 2" from being homeless
due to a large tree and unscrupulous contractor.
I had hoped to be able to continue to
try to learn something new from this group, but if I must be cut,
so be it, you are the boss.
Good luck with your decision(s).
John
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Sorry to disagree with? the last various past posts, and may I be
pertinent to say they are excuses not to start a project and
finish with it.
Call it perfection, or call it procrastination.it's all your call.
Just excuses to me,?
I am sure a lot of? hobbyists read HSM or DM which are under the
very excellent control of G Bullis,? but it is a always a question
of
when to get out of the old rockin chair as the great Louis
Armstring sang and do something constructive,or heaven forbid even
be creative,
Then move?on and start on to another project. it could be a simple
fix such as grandads repair to a grass cutter (beware of any
dangers)?
or get into a serious construction of a model for example a 5 year
build of a steam engine, or simply tinkering (Tamara) l just love
it.
Tamara you are a breath of feminie fresh air. Thaniks.
It really does not matter what you do? providing you are having
fun with your hobbies. But enjoy.what you do, or else it can
become a chore,?
Maybe you have not set the correct goals to achieve, either by
inability or self confidence, or you are under a certain amont of
peer pressure?
or family commitments etc.Who cares but just enjoy what you do,
but after a a few hours amongst your tools, walk away and say YES
YES, done it.move on,
I started this forum 3 years ago,and it has been succesful with
many members supporting the digital technology, and of course we
will always get the
?percentage of armchair (the US call them aptly named LazyBoy)
engineers.but this forum will not accept BS? and I always? learn
more each day.
Any current members who feel this is not for them, please just
drop out. It saves me the drudgery of going through 260
members and deleting. 30 days of no posts even hello will drop you
out.
Comments, of course appreciated,
John Lindo
Owner.
.
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??? ??? you can pick up a 3 axis DRO with glass scales for under
$300.00? everything ya need in a few boxes off Amazon or even the
Bay
??? ??? animal
On 7/21/2021 2:19 PM, Glenn N wrote:
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I joined the group to see if it could generate some interest in me
doing CNC and CAD. I am a retired ET with more than 36 years of
electronics background. I put together an all manual machine shop
when I retired 15 years ago. I purposely avoided anything to do
with electronics as I am burned out on it. I even built the
shumatech DRO350...what a shitshow that turned out to be. Poor
design with lots of noise issues. Even down to getting the
polarity wrong so you have to use batteries with the
scales...Frustrations I don't need. So, I bought the DRO 550 as it
was supposed to be excellent and a huge improvement...then people
started using them and all the glitches started falling out.
Fortunately I hadn't bought glass scales yet and all the parts are
still in the box.
So I will quit lurking and go elsewhere.
Glenn
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I came here as a newbie, having very little experience with milling or CNC, so I have no reason to post often, but I read a lot.? If posting ever 30 days is a requirement, then you can unsubscribe me, because I promise I won't post very often.? I've managed many groups, and been on many more, and never heard of such a requirement.? You'll be losing a lot of learners, but I suppose that doesn't matter.? Good way to let a group stagnate, as the same posters post the same info to each other.
Michael
Sorry to disagree with? the last various past posts, and may I be pertinent to say they are excuses not to start a project and finish with it.
Call it perfection, or call it 's all your call. Just excuses to me,?
I am sure a lot of? hobbyists read HSM or DM which are under the very excellent control of G Bullis,? but it is a always a question of
when to get out of the old rockin chair as the great Louis Armstring sang and do something constructive,or heaven forbid even be creative,
Then move?on and start on to another project. it could be a simple fix such as grandads repair to a grass cutter (beware of any dangers)?
or get into a serious construction of a model for example a 5 year build of a steam engine, or simply tinkering (Tamara) l just love it.
Tamara you are a breath of feminie fresh air. Thaniks.
It really does not matter what you do? providing you are having fun with your hobbies. But enjoy.what you do, or else it can become a chore,?
Maybe you have not set the correct goals to achieve, either by inability or self confidence, or you are under a certain amont of peer pressure?
or family commitments etc.Who cares but just enjoy what you do, but after a a few hours amongst your tools, walk away and say YES YES, done it.move on,
I started this forum 3 years ago,and it has been succesful with many members supporting the digital technology, and of course we will always get the
?percentage of armchair (the US call them aptly named LazyBoy) engineers.but this forum will not accept BS? and I always? learn more each day.
Any current members who feel this is not for them, please just drop out. It saves me the drudgery of going through 260
members and deleting. 30 days of no posts even hello will drop you out.
Comments, of course appreciated,
John Lindo
Owner.
.
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John, someone in the Digital Hobbyist Group told you to shut up?
I remember you had some conversations with Charlie when you first joined but I do not remember anyone telling you to shut up.
Ralph
On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 6:33 PM John Dammeyer < johnd@...> wrote: Hi Glenn, This is indeed a strange group.? To be told contribute or else we'll throw you out.? And then if you do you get told your contributions are invalid.? Very strange.? Or in my case because I mentioned my Electronic Lead Screw project was told to shut up because it was a commercial product.? Which it wasn't and is totally open source.? In fact I used the Shumatech Keypad approach for it.? I've even written a tutorial on how to make one. ? Anyway, I've had a working DRO-350 for the past 14 years or so.? The DRO-550 is assembled but in the box as I saw no need to upgrade.? ? I used the caliper type scales with it.? And probably the most important part using brass tube and epoxy I created battery shaped clones with tantalum and bypass capacitors inside.? Absolutely no problems other than the DIN connectors I used on the bottom of the box.? The first two photos are from 2007. ? The last one shows it mounted on an arm inserted into castings I made for something totally different. ? I just joined this group.? Very friendly bunch.? Not exactly email based but there seems to be a wide variety of people from all over the world. ?
? John Dammeyer ? "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" Automation Artisans Inc. www dot autoartisans dot com ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I joined the group to see if it could generate some interest in me doing CNC and CAD. I am a retired ET with more than 36 years of electronics background. I put together an all manual machine shop when I retired 15 years ago. I purposely avoided anything to do with electronics as I am burned out on it. I even built the shumatech DRO350...what a shitshow that turned out to be. Poor design with lots of noise issues. Even down to getting the polarity wrong so you have to use batteries with the scales...Frustrations I don't need. So, I bought the DRO 550 as it was supposed to be excellent and a huge improvement...then people started using them and all the glitches started falling out. Fortunately I hadn't bought glass scales yet and all the parts are still in the box.
So I will quit lurking and go elsewhere.
Glenn
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Hi Glenn, This is indeed a strange group.? To be told contribute or else we'll throw you out.? And then if you do you get told your contributions are invalid.? Very strange.? Or in my case because I mentioned my Electronic Lead Screw project was told to shut up because it was a commercial product.? Which it wasn't and is totally open source.? In fact I used the Shumatech Keypad approach for it.? I've even written a tutorial on how to make one. ? Anyway, I've had a working DRO-350 for the past 14 years or so.? The DRO-550 is assembled but in the box as I saw no need to upgrade.? ? I used the caliper type scales with it.? And probably the most important part using brass tube and epoxy I created battery shaped clones with tantalum and bypass capacitors inside.? Absolutely no problems other than the DIN connectors I used on the bottom of the box.? The first two photos are from 2007. ? The last one shows it mounted on an arm inserted into castings I made for something totally different. ? I just joined this group.? Very friendly bunch.? Not exactly email based but there seems to be a wide variety of people from all over the world. ?
? John Dammeyer ? "ELS! Nothing else works as well for your Lathe" Automation Artisans Inc. www dot autoartisans dot com ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] New Mill and CNC Conversion #MILLS #CNC? I joined the group to see if it could generate some interest in me doing CNC and CAD. I am a retired ET with more than 36 years of electronics background. I put together an all manual machine shop when I retired 15 years ago. I purposely avoided anything to do with electronics as I am burned out on it. I even built the shumatech DRO350...what a shitshow that turned out to be. Poor design with lots of noise issues. Even down to getting the polarity wrong so you have to use batteries with the scales...Frustrations I don't need. So, I bought the DRO 550 as it was supposed to be excellent and a huge improvement...then people started using them and all the glitches started falling out. Fortunately I hadn't bought glass scales yet and all the parts are still in the box.
So I will quit lurking and go elsewhere.
Glenn
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Thanks John, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I’m actually in a following phase just now ( and it’s too cold in the workshop at the moment) I’ve worked for years trying to get the crossdrive on my Boxford automated. I have just completed that task. So all of those projects that needed that to be done with it are now waiting! So an ER40 collet chuck is next up now that I can cut an accurate taper and do the 1 mm thread. it’s always a question is lathe conversation an enabler or an end ? Regards Bob
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On 22 Jul 2021, at 07:41, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:
? Bob, stay there. ?
Brilliant, thanks for your reply. if we can help then just post a question. On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 23:29, Bob T < zs6bxi@...> wrote: agreed Ralph, I think that was just to see who was awake out there. Me ….. I do a lot of thinking before getting to the stage of making. It’s my time when I have to wait a few minutes or more or listen to the grand kids doing their first school orchestra piece ! Then planning, then scrounging material and finally doing stuff. Regards Bob ? re:?
?30 days of no posts even hello will drop you out.
John, are you sure about that? I have had a long stretch of no post in all of the forums I subscribe to and have not been dropped out of any of them.
Of course in thinking about it I was dropped out of a Facebook group, without any warning or mention. But none of the GroupIO groups.
So just to make sure I do not get dropped I am posting this :-) Ralph
Sorry to disagree with? the last various past posts, and may I be pertinent to say they are excuses not to start a project and finish with it.
Call it perfection, or call it 's all your call. Just excuses to me,?
I am sure a lot of? hobbyists read HSM or DM which are under the very excellent control of G Bullis,? but it is a always a question of
when to get out of the old rockin chair as the great Louis Armstring sang and do something constructive,or heaven forbid even be creative,
Then move?on and start on to another project. it could be a simple fix such as grandads repair to a grass cutter (beware of any dangers)?
or get into a serious construction of a model for example a 5 year build of a steam engine, or simply tinkering (Tamara) l just love it.
Tamara you are a breath of feminie fresh air. Thaniks.
It really does not matter what you do? providing you are having fun with your hobbies. But enjoy.what you do, or else it can become a chore,?
Maybe you have not set the correct goals to achieve, either by inability or self confidence, or you are under a certain amont of peer pressure?
or family commitments etc.Who cares but just enjoy what you do, but after a a few hours amongst your tools, walk away and say YES YES, done it.move on,
I started this forum 3 years ago,and it has been succesful with many members supporting the digital technology, and of course we will always get the
?percentage of armchair (the US call them aptly named LazyBoy) engineers.but this forum will not accept BS? and I always? learn more each day.
Any current members who feel this is not for them, please just drop out. It saves me the drudgery of going through 260
members and deleting. 30 days of no posts even hello will drop you out.
Comments, of course appreciated,
John Lindo
Owner.
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John
-- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Bob, stay there. ?
Brilliant, thanks for your reply. if we can help then just post a question.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 23:29, Bob T < zs6bxi@...> wrote: agreed Ralph, I think that was just to see who was awake out there. Me ….. I do a lot of thinking before getting to the stage of making. It’s my time when I have to wait a few minutes or more or listen to the grand kids doing their first school orchestra piece ! Then planning, then scrounging material and finally doing stuff. Regards Bob ? re:?
?30 days of no posts even hello will drop you out.
John, are you sure about that? I have had a long stretch of no post in all of the forums I subscribe to and have not been dropped out of any of them.
Of course in thinking about it I was dropped out of a Facebook group, without any warning or mention. But none of the GroupIO groups.
So just to make sure I do not get dropped I am posting this :-) Ralph
Sorry to disagree with? the last various past posts, and may I be pertinent to say they are excuses not to start a project and finish with it.
Call it perfection, or call it 's all your call. Just excuses to me,?
I am sure a lot of? hobbyists read HSM or DM which are under the very excellent control of G Bullis,? but it is a always a question of
when to get out of the old rockin chair as the great Louis Armstring sang and do something constructive,or heaven forbid even be creative,
Then move?on and start on to another project. it could be a simple fix such as grandads repair to a grass cutter (beware of any dangers)?
or get into a serious construction of a model for example a 5 year build of a steam engine, or simply tinkering (Tamara) l just love it.
Tamara you are a breath of feminie fresh air. Thaniks.
It really does not matter what you do? providing you are having fun with your hobbies. But enjoy.what you do, or else it can become a chore,?
Maybe you have not set the correct goals to achieve, either by inability or self confidence, or you are under a certain amont of peer pressure?
or family commitments etc.Who cares but just enjoy what you do, but after a a few hours amongst your tools, walk away and say YES YES, done it.move on,
I started this forum 3 years ago,and it has been succesful with many members supporting the digital technology, and of course we will always get the
?percentage of armchair (the US call them aptly named LazyBoy) engineers.but this forum will not accept BS? and I always? learn more each day.
Any current members who feel this is not for them, please just drop out. It saves me the drudgery of going through 260
members and deleting. 30 days of no posts even hello will drop you out.
Comments, of course appreciated,
John Lindo
Owner.
.
?
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John
-- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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John
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Bill in OKC too
John Lindo
