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Re: Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

I will try and see if it works later on the Stream3 and Evo.
However it clearly works on the PC with VLC unlike the pls produced by the Humanware Companion so that is promising.
I see from looking at it that it already has Boon and Boon light. I will try and add Serenade in the same format to see if that works as well.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

Hi Again

I forgot to say in my previous message, here is a link to a playlist I made for my Stream 2. When you import it to the Stream the software changes the format. I haven't used it for a while, so don't know if all the stations still work. But I am sending it as an example.

Please let me know if this works for the Stream 3.



Pele West


Re: Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

Hi Again

I forgot to say in my previous message, here is a link to a playlist I made for my Stream 2. When you import it to the Stream the software changes the format. I haven't used it for a while, so don't know if all the stations still work. But I am sending it as an example.

Please let me know if this works for the Stream 3.



Pele West


Re: Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

Hi David

You don't need the Humanware Companion to make a playlist for the VR Stream. At least you didn't need to use it for the 2nd generation.

The .pls file is just a text file, so you can open it with Notepad or any other editor. When you import it into the Stream the program adds more information.

Pele West


Re: Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

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Well here is a mystery.

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The stream urls for both Boon and Serenade work fine in VLC and also work when put into vanilla m3u files.

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However when I use the Humanware companion to create a playlist file it provokes an error from VLC.

The Humanware Companion I have creates a PLS file but I think should still work with the urls. I have not tried importing onto the Victor Stream but from experience if the file does not work in VLC they are unlikely to work on a media player. I tried simply changing the file extension ?from PLS to m3u but no dice.

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Anyway here is the link to download the Boon playlist file which will work on PC and evo at least.

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David Griffith

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

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I have found Boon but remembered you have to use the Humanware Companion I think to make a stream compatible playlist.

Han fire.

David Griffith

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

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Dear Ray

Here is an m3u playlist file I have created with which you can listen to Serenade radio on a PC or import into a Stream, I think of all flavours.

I will go and have a look for Boon.

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David Griffith

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 5:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

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Thanks Mathieu for telling us about the Mystic Access tutorial on using Tune-in.? Gave Tune-in a quick try and sure enough we have the adverts and announcements which I presume goes with the free version of Tune-in.? Just one reason I shall not be using it much.? Apart from that I did a search for Angel Radio based in the south of England.? It came up with both streams - Havant and Isle of Weight - but would not let me save the second to favourits telling me it was already saved.? It would seem it cannot distinguish between the two Angel Radio streams.Just possible the aformentioned tutorial may enlighten me if I am doing something wrong.

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I note the Humanware UK playlist has been updated to more than 70 stations, including all the BBC feeds.? FiveLive Sports Extra works in that list.? Strange though that Boom Radio and Serenade Radio are not in that list.? Given these stations are growing in listenership with older people then this is something of an omission.

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With the many options I have now for listening to UK-based radio and some further afield then these issues with the Stream are not mattering much to me now.

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I shall post another message sometime soon about the other ways I am accessing online radio.

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Ray.

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On 13/11/2023 03:06 pm, Mathieu via groups.io wrote:

Hi everyone,

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Mystic Access has updated the Stream 3 tutorial to include TuneIn!

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As a reminder, the Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 is free for anyone who wants to listen to it, no purchase necessary, void where... oh wait, not that last part.

?

With this TuneIn addition, we're now over 13 hours of content. Wow!

?

We're in the process of updating our website (our web guy is really, really busy these days!) so it may take a day or two before we have the updated tutorial on support.humanware.com but if you'd like it now, you can get it on directly.

?

And since TuneIn is the big change, the folks at Mystic Access were kind enough to provide it as a standalone option. I've reviewed it this weekend, and I gotta say, Kim did a phenomenal job of demonstrating all that you can do in TuneIn. Not gonna lie, I learned a thing or two myself. That can be found at !

?

Thank you again to Kim and Chris from Mystic Access for their great work!

?

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

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I have found Boon but remembered you have to use the Humanware Companion I think to make a stream compatible playlist.

Han fire.

David Griffith

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 10:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

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Dear Ray

Here is an m3u playlist file I have created with which you can listen to Serenade radio on a PC or import into a Stream, I think of all flavours.

I will go and have a look for Boon.

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David Griffith

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 5:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

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Thanks Mathieu for telling us about the Mystic Access tutorial on using Tune-in.? Gave Tune-in a quick try and sure enough we have the adverts and announcements which I presume goes with the free version of Tune-in.? Just one reason I shall not be using it much.? Apart from that I did a search for Angel Radio based in the south of England.? It came up with both streams - Havant and Isle of Weight - but would not let me save the second to favourits telling me it was already saved.? It would seem it cannot distinguish between the two Angel Radio streams.Just possible the aformentioned tutorial may enlighten me if I am doing something wrong.

?

I note the Humanware UK playlist has been updated to more than 70 stations, including all the BBC feeds.? FiveLive Sports Extra works in that list.? Strange though that Boom Radio and Serenade Radio are not in that list.? Given these stations are growing in listenership with older people then this is something of an omission.

?

With the many options I have now for listening to UK-based radio and some further afield then these issues with the Stream are not mattering much to me now.

?

I shall post another message sometime soon about the other ways I am accessing online radio.

?

Ray.

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On 13/11/2023 03:06 pm, Mathieu via groups.io wrote:

Hi everyone,

?

Mystic Access has updated the Stream 3 tutorial to include TuneIn!

?

As a reminder, the Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 is free for anyone who wants to listen to it, no purchase necessary, void where... oh wait, not that last part.

?

With this TuneIn addition, we're now over 13 hours of content. Wow!

?

We're in the process of updating our website (our web guy is really, really busy these days!) so it may take a day or two before we have the updated tutorial on support.humanware.com but if you'd like it now, you can get it on directly.

?

And since TuneIn is the big change, the folks at Mystic Access were kind enough to provide it as a standalone option. I've reviewed it this weekend, and I gotta say, Kim did a phenomenal job of demonstrating all that you can do in TuneIn. Not gonna lie, I learned a thing or two myself. That can be found at !

?

Thank you again to Kim and Chris from Mystic Access for their great work!

?

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

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Dear Ray

Here is an m3u playlist file I have created with which you can listen to Serenade radio on a PC or import into a Stream, I think of all flavours.

I will go and have a look for Boon.

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David Griffith

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 5:13 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

?

Thanks Mathieu for telling us about the Mystic Access tutorial on using Tune-in.? Gave Tune-in a quick try and sure enough we have the adverts and announcements which I presume goes with the free version of Tune-in.? Just one reason I shall not be using it much.? Apart from that I did a search for Angel Radio based in the south of England.? It came up with both streams - Havant and Isle of Weight - but would not let me save the second to favourits telling me it was already saved.? It would seem it cannot distinguish between the two Angel Radio streams.Just possible the aformentioned tutorial may enlighten me if I am doing something wrong.

?

I note the Humanware UK playlist has been updated to more than 70 stations, including all the BBC feeds.? FiveLive Sports Extra works in that list.? Strange though that Boom Radio and Serenade Radio are not in that list.? Given these stations are growing in listenership with older people then this is something of an omission.

?

With the many options I have now for listening to UK-based radio and some further afield then these issues with the Stream are not mattering much to me now.

?

I shall post another message sometime soon about the other ways I am accessing online radio.

?

Ray.

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On 13/11/2023 03:06 pm, Mathieu via groups.io wrote:

Hi everyone,

?

Mystic Access has updated the Stream 3 tutorial to include TuneIn!

?

As a reminder, the Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 is free for anyone who wants to listen to it, no purchase necessary, void where... oh wait, not that last part.

?

With this TuneIn addition, we're now over 13 hours of content. Wow!

?

We're in the process of updating our website (our web guy is really, really busy these days!) so it may take a day or two before we have the updated tutorial on support.humanware.com but if you'd like it now, you can get it on directly.

?

And since TuneIn is the big change, the folks at Mystic Access were kind enough to provide it as a standalone option. I've reviewed it this weekend, and I gotta say, Kim did a phenomenal job of demonstrating all that you can do in TuneIn. Not gonna lie, I learned a thing or two myself. That can be found at !

?

Thank you again to Kim and Chris from Mystic Access for their great work!

?

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

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Thanks Mathieu for telling us about the Mystic Access tutorial on using Tune-in.? Gave Tune-in a quick try and sure enough we have the adverts and announcements which I presume goes with the free version of Tune-in.? Just one reason I shall not be using it much.? Apart from that I did a search for Angel Radio based in the south of England.? It came up with both streams - Havant and Isle of Weight - but would not let me save the second to favourits telling me it was already saved.? It would seem it cannot distinguish between the two Angel Radio streams.Just possible the aformentioned tutorial may enlighten me if I am doing something wrong.


I note the Humanware UK playlist has been updated to more than 70 stations, including all the BBC feeds.? FiveLive Sports Extra works in that list.? Strange though that Boom Radio and Serenade Radio are not in that list.? Given these stations are growing in listenership with older people then this is something of an omission.


With the many options I have now for listening to UK-based radio and some further afield then these issues with the Stream are not mattering much to me now.


I shall post another message sometime soon about the other ways I am accessing online radio.


Ray.




On 13/11/2023 03:06 pm, Mathieu via groups.io wrote:

Hi everyone,
?
Mystic Access has updated the Stream 3 tutorial to include TuneIn!
?
As a reminder, the Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 is free for anyone who wants to listen to it, no purchase necessary, void where... oh wait, not that last part.
?
With this TuneIn addition, we're now over 13 hours of content. Wow!
?
We're in the process of updating our website (our web guy is really, really busy these days!) so it may take a day or two before we have the updated tutorial on support.humanware.com but if you'd like it now, you can get it on directly.
?
And since TuneIn is the big change, the folks at Mystic Access were kind enough to provide it as a standalone option. I've reviewed it this weekend, and I gotta say, Kim did a phenomenal job of demonstrating all that you can do in TuneIn. Not gonna lie, I learned a thing or two myself. That can be found at !
?
Thank you again to Kim and Chris from Mystic Access for their great work!
?
Mathieu Paquette
Product Manager
HumanWare


Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 - Now with TuneIn included!

 

Hi everyone,
?
Mystic Access has updated the Stream 3 tutorial to include TuneIn!
?
As a reminder, the Mystic Access tutorial for the Stream 3 is free for anyone who wants to listen to it, no purchase necessary, void where... oh wait, not that last part.
?
With this TuneIn addition, we're now over 13 hours of content. Wow!
?
We're in the process of updating our website (our web guy is really, really busy these days!) so it may take a day or two before we have the updated tutorial on support.humanware.com but if you'd like it now, you can get it on https://mysticaccessdownloads.com/ directly.
?
And since TuneIn is the big change, the folks at Mystic Access were kind enough to provide it as a standalone option. I've reviewed it this weekend, and I gotta say, Kim did a phenomenal job of demonstrating all that you can do in TuneIn. Not gonna lie, I learned a thing or two myself. That can be found at https://mysticaccessdownloads.com/download/demo-of-the-tunein-bookshelf-for-the-stream-3/ !
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Thank you again to Kim and Chris from Mystic Access for their great work!
?
Mathieu Paquette
Product Manager
HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

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Hi,

A Calibre book is only an MP3 book, not a Daisy book, just standard MP3.

So just stick it in any folder on the computer, and browse to it with the Milestone. It should play the files in order.

All the best


Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 10:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi Steve

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I have played daisy books on the milestone and audible books but how would I play a calibre book for example? I think I can do this on the evo 10, again this is why I like the stream for audio books.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi Ray,

A big up side to the Milestone for me, is you have no rigid structure of folders. IE, you don’t have to put a DAISY book into $VR_Daisy, or whatever it is, you can create any folder, and the Milestone is smart enough to know whether it contains a Daisy book or not.

Disclosure though, before anyone comments, I do sell the Milestone, but I am talking as a user here.

The other big upside, is its size. It is not much bigger than a credit card. SO it is easily pocketable.

All the best

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Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Adrian, I think you reflect a widespread feeling about the VR3.? Speaking entirely for myself I feel the Victor Reader interface is the most comfortuble for reading audio books probably reflecting that it was well conceived in the first place some 20 years ago or more.

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Were Humanware to do a radical review of their approach to this sort of device then to my mind it could involve consideration of a keypad as an interface to a phone/tablet which would perform the heavy work of processing and, hopefully, keep up with the ever changing operating systems instead of the rug being perpetually being pulled away under their feet.

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I know all too well how the at times, evangelistic enthusiasm of all things touch screen proclaims so furbantly we must all be happy and content to use touch screens but I would guess that still around a third of blind/vI users are much happier using keypads for easy and convenient listening to radio, podcasts and audio/talking books.

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A good deal has been said about the HIMS players which can, amongst other things, accomodate BBC Sounds, but I would like to hear more about the Milestone who's only downside appears to be lack of a podcast client.

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Now I can access BBC stuff via a smart speaker this is now becoming part of my BBC Sounds prefered access to BBC services, butcertainly NOT the smart phone app.? For some the drawback of using Google or Amazon speakers is the delay imposed on the streams but, apart from sports coverage - often nobbled by rights restrictions - the only other situation where its a nuisance is taking part in phone-ins, but then if you do get in on one of these then you are of course obliged to take the radio programme you are joining in with on the phone while you waite for the presenter to get to you.

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to return to the Stream, Yes, a few more extras such as timers, alarms, and so on would not come amiss.

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Ray.

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On 10/11/2023 08:57 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi

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Not trying to be negative but I think for me personally this may be the last victor stream I will buy, the price is going up but we are getting less features on it. I know it is only the 2nd up-date but all the things I can do on my stream I can do on my other devices, milestone and evo 10 and they give me more features, weather, clock, compass, etc, we don’t have the choice of facilities they have in the states, no nls bard or anything like that. I primarily use my vr stream for audio books, for me I prefer the way the stream organises my books, not in the way the stream 3 does them right now because of the bug but they are easy to find my way around them especially on my stream mark 2. I know humanware is working on getting us the rnib and perhaps calibre in the future but that is it, I think we can do all of that on alexa and to be honest, I prefer to copy my books to the sd card anyway. Because the stream has breached the ?400 price range, I will be very reluctant to buy another one just now. I have always liked my vr streams but for me to buy another one, I would like to see more features on it for us in the uk. I use it for podcasts, internet radio but can do the latter on my alexa. I think when the stream first came out, we didn’t have the choice we have right now. I have always loved my stream and find it very easy to use but it is the higher price which would put me off if it wasn’t for the pay monthly option through devide buy. Again this is just my point of view. ??

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Possible things may have changed, last I spoke with them last year they didn’t… interesting.

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Thank you for the info.

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Mathieu

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

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So for now, just RNIB.

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Mathieu

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi Matthew

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Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

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For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

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Mathieu

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew

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Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

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I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

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I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi everyone!

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I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

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That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

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We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

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For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

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So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

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Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

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TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

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DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

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IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

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CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

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BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

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SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

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And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

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The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

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And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

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Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

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The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

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Hi Steve

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I have played daisy books on the milestone and audible books but how would I play a calibre book for example? I think I can do this on the evo 10, again this is why I like the stream for audio books.

?

Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi Ray,

A big up side to the Milestone for me, is you have no rigid structure of folders. IE, you don’t have to put a DAISY book into $VR_Daisy, or whatever it is, you can create any folder, and the Milestone is smart enough to know whether it contains a Daisy book or not.

Disclosure though, before anyone comments, I do sell the Milestone, but I am talking as a user here.

The other big upside, is its size. It is not much bigger than a credit card. SO it is easily pocketable.

All the best

?

Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Adrian, I think you reflect a widespread feeling about the VR3.? Speaking entirely for myself I feel the Victor Reader interface is the most comfortuble for reading audio books probably reflecting that it was well conceived in the first place some 20 years ago or more.

?

Were Humanware to do a radical review of their approach to this sort of device then to my mind it could involve consideration of a keypad as an interface to a phone/tablet which would perform the heavy work of processing and, hopefully, keep up with the ever changing operating systems instead of the rug being perpetually being pulled away under their feet.

?

I know all too well how the at times, evangelistic enthusiasm of all things touch screen proclaims so furbantly we must all be happy and content to use touch screens but I would guess that still around a third of blind/vI users are much happier using keypads for easy and convenient listening to radio, podcasts and audio/talking books.

?

A good deal has been said about the HIMS players which can, amongst other things, accomodate BBC Sounds, but I would like to hear more about the Milestone who's only downside appears to be lack of a podcast client.

?

Now I can access BBC stuff via a smart speaker this is now becoming part of my BBC Sounds prefered access to BBC services, butcertainly NOT the smart phone app.? For some the drawback of using Google or Amazon speakers is the delay imposed on the streams but, apart from sports coverage - often nobbled by rights restrictions - the only other situation where its a nuisance is taking part in phone-ins, but then if you do get in on one of these then you are of course obliged to take the radio programme you are joining in with on the phone while you waite for the presenter to get to you.

?

to return to the Stream, Yes, a few more extras such as timers, alarms, and so on would not come amiss.

?

Ray.

?

On 10/11/2023 08:57 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi

?

Not trying to be negative but I think for me personally this may be the last victor stream I will buy, the price is going up but we are getting less features on it. I know it is only the 2nd up-date but all the things I can do on my stream I can do on my other devices, milestone and evo 10 and they give me more features, weather, clock, compass, etc, we don’t have the choice of facilities they have in the states, no nls bard or anything like that. I primarily use my vr stream for audio books, for me I prefer the way the stream organises my books, not in the way the stream 3 does them right now because of the bug but they are easy to find my way around them especially on my stream mark 2. I know humanware is working on getting us the rnib and perhaps calibre in the future but that is it, I think we can do all of that on alexa and to be honest, I prefer to copy my books to the sd card anyway. Because the stream has breached the ?400 price range, I will be very reluctant to buy another one just now. I have always liked my vr streams but for me to buy another one, I would like to see more features on it for us in the uk. I use it for podcasts, internet radio but can do the latter on my alexa. I think when the stream first came out, we didn’t have the choice we have right now. I have always loved my stream and find it very easy to use but it is the higher price which would put me off if it wasn’t for the pay monthly option through devide buy. Again this is just my point of view. ??

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Possible things may have changed, last I spoke with them last year they didn’t… interesting.

?

Thank you for the info.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.

COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

?

So for now, just RNIB.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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Hi Matthew

?

Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

?

For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew

?

Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

?

I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

?

I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi everyone!

?

I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

?

That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

?

We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

?

For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

?

So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

?

?

Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

?

TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

?

DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

?

IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

?

CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

?

BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

?

SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

?

?

And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

?

The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

?

?

And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

?

Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

?

The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

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Hi Steve

?

Also for me personally, I like the milestone because you can carry it around on a lanyard and not know it is there it is so light, the stream, the only way to do that is to have it in a case and there is no other way of doing it. I think even the evo10 has a lanyard. They could have put something on the stream to add a lanyard, I drop it quite often and without the case it makes the stream more vulnerable.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi Ray,

A big up side to the Milestone for me, is you have no rigid structure of folders. IE, you don’t have to put a DAISY book into $VR_Daisy, or whatever it is, you can create any folder, and the Milestone is smart enough to know whether it contains a Daisy book or not.

Disclosure though, before anyone comments, I do sell the Milestone, but I am talking as a user here.

The other big upside, is its size. It is not much bigger than a credit card. SO it is easily pocketable.

All the best

?

Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Adrian, I think you reflect a widespread feeling about the VR3.? Speaking entirely for myself I feel the Victor Reader interface is the most comfortuble for reading audio books probably reflecting that it was well conceived in the first place some 20 years ago or more.

?

Were Humanware to do a radical review of their approach to this sort of device then to my mind it could involve consideration of a keypad as an interface to a phone/tablet which would perform the heavy work of processing and, hopefully, keep up with the ever changing operating systems instead of the rug being perpetually being pulled away under their feet.

?

I know all too well how the at times, evangelistic enthusiasm of all things touch screen proclaims so furbantly we must all be happy and content to use touch screens but I would guess that still around a third of blind/vI users are much happier using keypads for easy and convenient listening to radio, podcasts and audio/talking books.

?

A good deal has been said about the HIMS players which can, amongst other things, accomodate BBC Sounds, but I would like to hear more about the Milestone who's only downside appears to be lack of a podcast client.

?

Now I can access BBC stuff via a smart speaker this is now becoming part of my BBC Sounds prefered access to BBC services, butcertainly NOT the smart phone app.? For some the drawback of using Google or Amazon speakers is the delay imposed on the streams but, apart from sports coverage - often nobbled by rights restrictions - the only other situation where its a nuisance is taking part in phone-ins, but then if you do get in on one of these then you are of course obliged to take the radio programme you are joining in with on the phone while you waite for the presenter to get to you.

?

to return to the Stream, Yes, a few more extras such as timers, alarms, and so on would not come amiss.

?

Ray.

?

On 10/11/2023 08:57 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi

?

Not trying to be negative but I think for me personally this may be the last victor stream I will buy, the price is going up but we are getting less features on it. I know it is only the 2nd up-date but all the things I can do on my stream I can do on my other devices, milestone and evo 10 and they give me more features, weather, clock, compass, etc, we don’t have the choice of facilities they have in the states, no nls bard or anything like that. I primarily use my vr stream for audio books, for me I prefer the way the stream organises my books, not in the way the stream 3 does them right now because of the bug but they are easy to find my way around them especially on my stream mark 2. I know humanware is working on getting us the rnib and perhaps calibre in the future but that is it, I think we can do all of that on alexa and to be honest, I prefer to copy my books to the sd card anyway. Because the stream has breached the ?400 price range, I will be very reluctant to buy another one just now. I have always liked my vr streams but for me to buy another one, I would like to see more features on it for us in the uk. I use it for podcasts, internet radio but can do the latter on my alexa. I think when the stream first came out, we didn’t have the choice we have right now. I have always loved my stream and find it very easy to use but it is the higher price which would put me off if it wasn’t for the pay monthly option through devide buy. Again this is just my point of view. ??

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Possible things may have changed, last I spoke with them last year they didn’t… interesting.

?

Thank you for the info.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.

COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

?

So for now, just RNIB.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.

COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew

?

Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

?

For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.

COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew

?

Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

?

I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

?

I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi everyone!

?

I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

?

That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

?

We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

?

For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

?

So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

?

?

Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

?

TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

?

DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

?

IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

?

CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

?

BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

?

SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

?

?

And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

?

The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

?

?

And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

?

Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

?

The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

开云体育

Hi Ray,

A big up side to the Milestone for me, is you have no rigid structure of folders. IE, you don’t have to put a DAISY book into $VR_Daisy, or whatever it is, you can create any folder, and the Milestone is smart enough to know whether it contains a Daisy book or not.

Disclosure though, before anyone comments, I do sell the Milestone, but I am talking as a user here.

The other big upside, is its size. It is not much bigger than a credit card. SO it is easily pocketable.

All the best

?

Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Adrian, I think you reflect a widespread feeling about the VR3.? Speaking entirely for myself I feel the Victor Reader interface is the most comfortuble for reading audio books probably reflecting that it was well conceived in the first place some 20 years ago or more.

?

Were Humanware to do a radical review of their approach to this sort of device then to my mind it could involve consideration of a keypad as an interface to a phone/tablet which would perform the heavy work of processing and, hopefully, keep up with the ever changing operating systems instead of the rug being perpetually being pulled away under their feet.

?

I know all too well how the at times, evangelistic enthusiasm of all things touch screen proclaims so furbantly we must all be happy and content to use touch screens but I would guess that still around a third of blind/vI users are much happier using keypads for easy and convenient listening to radio, podcasts and audio/talking books.

?

A good deal has been said about the HIMS players which can, amongst other things, accomodate BBC Sounds, but I would like to hear more about the Milestone who's only downside appears to be lack of a podcast client.

?

Now I can access BBC stuff via a smart speaker this is now becoming part of my BBC Sounds prefered access to BBC services, butcertainly NOT the smart phone app.? For some the drawback of using Google or Amazon speakers is the delay imposed on the streams but, apart from sports coverage - often nobbled by rights restrictions - the only other situation where its a nuisance is taking part in phone-ins, but then if you do get in on one of these then you are of course obliged to take the radio programme you are joining in with on the phone while you waite for the presenter to get to you.

?

to return to the Stream, Yes, a few more extras such as timers, alarms, and so on would not come amiss.

?

Ray.

?

On 10/11/2023 08:57 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi

?

Not trying to be negative but I think for me personally this may be the last victor stream I will buy, the price is going up but we are getting less features on it. I know it is only the 2nd up-date but all the things I can do on my stream I can do on my other devices, milestone and evo 10 and they give me more features, weather, clock, compass, etc, we don’t have the choice of facilities they have in the states, no nls bard or anything like that. I primarily use my vr stream for audio books, for me I prefer the way the stream organises my books, not in the way the stream 3 does them right now because of the bug but they are easy to find my way around them especially on my stream mark 2. I know humanware is working on getting us the rnib and perhaps calibre in the future but that is it, I think we can do all of that on alexa and to be honest, I prefer to copy my books to the sd card anyway. Because the stream has breached the ?400 price range, I will be very reluctant to buy another one just now. I have always liked my vr streams but for me to buy another one, I would like to see more features on it for us in the uk. I use it for podcasts, internet radio but can do the latter on my alexa. I think when the stream first came out, we didn’t have the choice we have right now. I have always loved my stream and find it very easy to use but it is the higher price which would put me off if it wasn’t for the pay monthly option through devide buy. Again this is just my point of view. ??

?

Regards


Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Possible things may have changed, last I spoke with them last year they didn’t… interesting.

?

Thank you for the info.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

?

So for now, just RNIB.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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Hi Matthew

?

Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

?

For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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Hi Matthew

?

Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

?

I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

?

I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi everyone!

?

I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

?

That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

?

We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

?

For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

?

So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

?

?

Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

?

TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

?

DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

?

IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

?

CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

?

BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

?

SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

?

?

And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

?

The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

?

?

And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

?

Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

?

The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

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Hi Ray

Yes, We have lost the references part on the stream, didn’t use it very often but it was there if we needed it, also the clock, for me personally, we are getting less but having to pay more money, other devices offer far more but as I said I love my stream for reading books but it’s a lot of money to pay out just to read books, I use my phone for calls, texts and other forms of communication, but not for reading. I am not comfortable using several apps at once like I do on my pc. All my daisy players have their own pros and cons but the milestone is a bit cheaper than the new vr stream but it has audible, weather, agenda, and other features. ?

?

Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2023 9:24 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Adrian, I think you reflect a widespread feeling about the VR3.? Speaking entirely for myself I feel the Victor Reader interface is the most comfortuble for reading audio books probably reflecting that it was well conceived in the first place some 20 years ago or more.

?

Were Humanware to do a radical review of their approach to this sort of device then to my mind it could involve consideration of a keypad as an interface to a phone/tablet which would perform the heavy work of processing and, hopefully, keep up with the ever changing operating systems instead of the rug being perpetually being pulled away under their feet.

?

I know all too well how the at times, evangelistic enthusiasm of all things touch screen proclaims so furbantly we must all be happy and content to use touch screens but I would guess that still around a third of blind/vI users are much happier using keypads for easy and convenient listening to radio, podcasts and audio/talking books.

?

A good deal has been said about the HIMS players which can, amongst other things, accomodate BBC Sounds, but I would like to hear more about the Milestone who's only downside appears to be lack of a podcast client.

?

Now I can access BBC stuff via a smart speaker this is now becoming part of my BBC Sounds prefered access to BBC services, butcertainly NOT the smart phone app.? For some the drawback of using Google or Amazon speakers is the delay imposed on the streams but, apart from sports coverage - often nobbled by rights restrictions - the only other situation where its a nuisance is taking part in phone-ins, but then if you do get in on one of these then you are of course obliged to take the radio programme you are joining in with on the phone while you waite for the presenter to get to you.

?

to return to the Stream, Yes, a few more extras such as timers, alarms, and so on would not come amiss.

?

Ray.

?

On 10/11/2023 08:57 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi

?

Not trying to be negative but I think for me personally this may be the last victor stream I will buy, the price is going up but we are getting less features on it. I know it is only the 2nd up-date but all the things I can do on my stream I can do on my other devices, milestone and evo 10 and they give me more features, weather, clock, compass, etc, we don’t have the choice of facilities they have in the states, no nls bard or anything like that. I primarily use my vr stream for audio books, for me I prefer the way the stream organises my books, not in the way the stream 3 does them right now because of the bug but they are easy to find my way around them especially on my stream mark 2. I know humanware is working on getting us the rnib and perhaps calibre in the future but that is it, I think we can do all of that on alexa and to be honest, I prefer to copy my books to the sd card anyway. Because the stream has breached the ?400 price range, I will be very reluctant to buy another one just now. I have always liked my vr streams but for me to buy another one, I would like to see more features on it for us in the uk. I use it for podcasts, internet radio but can do the latter on my alexa. I think when the stream first came out, we didn’t have the choice we have right now. I have always loved my stream and find it very easy to use but it is the higher price which would put me off if it wasn’t for the pay monthly option through devide buy. Again this is just my point of view. ??

?

Regards


Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Possible things may have changed, last I spoke with them last year they didn’t… interesting.

?

Thank you for the info.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

?

So for now, just RNIB.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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Hi Matthew

?

Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

?

For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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Hi Matthew

?

Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

?

I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

?

I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi everyone!

?

I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

?

That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

?

We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

?

For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

?

So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

?

?

Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

?

TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

?

DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

?

IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

?

CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

?

BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

?

SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

?

?

And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

?

The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

?

?

And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

?

Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

?

The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

开云体育

Adrian, I think you reflect a widespread feeling about the VR3.? Speaking entirely for myself I feel the Victor Reader interface is the most comfortuble for reading audio books probably reflecting that it was well conceived in the first place some 20 years ago or more.


Were Humanware to do a radical review of their approach to this sort of device then to my mind it could involve consideration of a keypad as an interface to a phone/tablet which would perform the heavy work of processing and, hopefully, keep up with the ever changing operating systems instead of the rug being perpetually being pulled away under their feet.


I know all too well how the at times, evangelistic enthusiasm of all things touch screen proclaims so furbantly we must all be happy and content to use touch screens but I would guess that still around a third of blind/vI users are much happier using keypads for easy and convenient listening to radio, podcasts and audio/talking books.


A good deal has been said about the HIMS players which can, amongst other things, accomodate BBC Sounds, but I would like to hear more about the Milestone who's only downside appears to be lack of a podcast client.


Now I can access BBC stuff via a smart speaker this is now becoming part of my BBC Sounds prefered access to BBC services, butcertainly NOT the smart phone app.? For some the drawback of using Google or Amazon speakers is the delay imposed on the streams but, apart from sports coverage - often nobbled by rights restrictions - the only other situation where its a nuisance is taking part in phone-ins, but then if you do get in on one of these then you are of course obliged to take the radio programme you are joining in with on the phone while you waite for the presenter to get to you.


to return to the Stream, Yes, a few more extras such as timers, alarms, and so on would not come amiss.


Ray.


On 10/11/2023 08:57 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi

?

Not trying to be negative but I think for me personally this may be the last victor stream I will buy, the price is going up but we are getting less features on it. I know it is only the 2nd up-date but all the things I can do on my stream I can do on my other devices, milestone and evo 10 and they give me more features, weather, clock, compass, etc, we don’t have the choice of facilities they have in the states, no nls bard or anything like that. I primarily use my vr stream for audio books, for me I prefer the way the stream organises my books, not in the way the stream 3 does them right now because of the bug but they are easy to find my way around them especially on my stream mark 2. I know humanware is working on getting us the rnib and perhaps calibre in the future but that is it, I think we can do all of that on alexa and to be honest, I prefer to copy my books to the sd card anyway. Because the stream has breached the ?400 price range, I will be very reluctant to buy another one just now. I have always liked my vr streams but for me to buy another one, I would like to see more features on it for us in the uk. I use it for podcasts, internet radio but can do the latter on my alexa. I think when the stream first came out, we didn’t have the choice we have right now. I have always loved my stream and find it very easy to use but it is the higher price which would put me off if it wasn’t for the pay monthly option through devide buy. Again this is just my point of view. ??

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Possible things may have changed, last I spoke with them last year they didn’t… interesting.

?

Thank you for the info.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.

COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

?

So for now, just RNIB.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew

?

Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

?

For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.

COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew

?

Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

?

I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

?

I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi everyone!

?

I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

?

That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

?

We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

?

For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

?

So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

?

?

Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

?

TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

?

DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

?

IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

?

CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

?

BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

?

SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

?

?

And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

?

The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

?

?

And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

?

Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

?

The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

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Hi

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Not trying to be negative but I think for me personally this may be the last victor stream I will buy, the price is going up but we are getting less features on it. I know it is only the 2nd up-date but all the things I can do on my stream I can do on my other devices, milestone and evo 10 and they give me more features, weather, clock, compass, etc, we don’t have the choice of facilities they have in the states, no nls bard or anything like that. I primarily use my vr stream for audio books, for me I prefer the way the stream organises my books, not in the way the stream 3 does them right now because of the bug but they are easy to find my way around them especially on my stream mark 2. I know humanware is working on getting us the rnib and perhaps calibre in the future but that is it, I think we can do all of that on alexa and to be honest, I prefer to copy my books to the sd card anyway. Because the stream has breached the ?400 price range, I will be very reluctant to buy another one just now. I have always liked my vr streams but for me to buy another one, I would like to see more features on it for us in the uk. I use it for podcasts, internet radio but can do the latter on my alexa. I think when the stream first came out, we didn’t have the choice we have right now. I have always loved my stream and find it very easy to use but it is the higher price which would put me off if it wasn’t for the pay monthly option through devide buy. Again this is just my point of view. ??

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Possible things may have changed, last I spoke with them last year they didn’t… interesting.

?

Thank you for the info.

?

Mathieu

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 9:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

?

So for now, just RNIB.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi Matthew

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Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

?

For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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Hi Matthew

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Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

?

I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

?

I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi everyone!

?

I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

?

That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

?

We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

?

For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

?

So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

?

?

Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

?

TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

?

DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

?

IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

?

CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

?

BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

?

SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

?

?

And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

?

The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

?

?

And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

?

Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

?

The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

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First will say the iPhone lot can be as obbsessive and determined in their advice re. the smart phone does everything.? As for going in your pocket, means little or nothing to me.


Having downloaded the VR3 update now and done a quick assessment, first its more stable and no interuptions to HLS streams now.? The Bluetooth is working, but who knows if it might have been some temporary glitch with my VR3 anyway, but had to delete Bluetooth pairings first to get it to work.


A step in the right direction then but lets hope it can only get better.


Ray.


On 08/11/2023 03:49 pm, adrien collins wrote:

Hi Steve

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I am better than what I was before cb radio, I had a real stutter after my encephalitis, people had to tell me to slow down otherwise they couldn’t understand me, cb radio cured that! Hence going into ham radio after a few years. You live and learn of course. I ask alexa questions, it doesn’t always know the answer or it may come up with something completely obscure, have some right laughs sometimes.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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I too don’t use voice control, but Adrian asked about it.

All the best


Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Griffith via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

?

My problem with voice control is that because I have what people describe as a slight lisp it sends most of the Ais ai voice clients into bizarre conversational loops. Last night? I asked my Apple Watch What is the battery – it replied That’s an interesting question.

The other day I asked Siri what the population of Tavistock was and it said in an offended tone, I won’t answer that, obviously thinking I had said something rude, ?which did, of course, make me say something rude.

I can just about get Alexa to play my Flash Briefing and Google is slightly better though still ropey. For whatever reason, I don’t know why, but the engine which is most tolerant of my lisp and which I can generally get some dictation sense is via the Blind Shell Classic 2.

Anyway it is another reason to be in praise of buttons for? specialist devices. I once had a Kapsys GPS device which was largely voice controlled and it was hopeless for me.

David Griffith.

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.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Yes, you can do voice typing.

You can also say “Send a text message to Steve” if Steve is in your contacts, and the assistant will ask what you’d like to say, and type it.

You can say “Send a What’s App Message” or “Send a Message On What’s App”, if you mention the application, it will often work.

You can say, remind me to take my pill at 8 AM for example.

You can say Set a Calendar event for 9 AM, and it will ask what the description is.

There is probably more stuff you can do than you realise. ?

All the best

?

Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Ok I get it, I can make calls using google assistant, not tried it for voice typing though. ?

?

Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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No, Yeppers, is just another way of saying yes. ?

?

All the best


Steve

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Is that the name of the app? Never heard of it.

?

Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Yeppers.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

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Hi Steve

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All they need is my membership number and password?

?

Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.

?

So for now, just RNIB.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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Hi Matthew

?

Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?

?

For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.

?

Mathieu

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

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COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew

?

Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?

?

I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.

?

I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

?

Hi everyone!

?

I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!

?

That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.

?

We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?

?

For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).

?

So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!

?

?

Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:

?

TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .

?

DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)

?

IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)

?

CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.

?

BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.

?

SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.

?

?

And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:

?

The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages

?

?

And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.

?

Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:

?

The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare


Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

Ray the synaptic versions of both libraries that you mention of brilliant. I use both of them with my synaptic phone. If you need help email me off list. Then I will do my best to help you. Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
A brief perusal of the settings with the VR3 update installed does not
show me RNIB DAISY audio book library as an option. I was looking in
the various account settings for the on-line libraries so wonder if, or
when the RNIB library will be in there.


I know I could use the Synapptic adaptation sotware to access both RNIB
and Calibre but I've not tried to use either yet.


If I were to use library services on a phone then killing the phone
while I am listening would be a must for me. Probably a tablet would be
better for this sort of use.


Ray.


On 08/11/2023 04:17 pm, Mrs Villa wrote:
You can access both libraries using a synaptic phone. Calibre isn't available on the Echo as yet. They hope to have it available by Christmas I know as I've just spoken to someone from calibre. Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
Hi Steve and Matthew



When I had my in your pocket phone I could access calibre so it must be possible, that was 3 plus years ago.



Regards



Adrien



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.



So for now, just RNIB.



Mathieu



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement




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Hi Matthew



Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.



Regards

Adrien



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?



For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.



Mathieu



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement




EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.


COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew



Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?



I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.



I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.



Regards

Adrien



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



Hi everyone!



I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!



That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.



We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?



For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).



So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!





Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:



TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .



DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)



IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)



CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.



BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.



SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.





And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:



The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages





And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.



Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:



The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare













Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

Thanks Steve. I wish iPhones could have that setting for everything. Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
Yes.

All the best
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mrs Villa
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:29 PM
To: steve@...; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Thanks Steve. That's really interesting to know. Can one use the single tap option on Android for everything? Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
But an Android phone, you can set to single tap.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mrs Villa
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:20 PM
To: steve@...; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Steve the problem with using an iPhone is you have to double tap on everything. Not everybody can do that. That's why synaptic is very good for people who can't. Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
Ray, you are narrowing things too much. It's not just Android where we now have better access, iPhone is just as good.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 1:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Yes, afraid Steve and one or two others imersed in all things Android always say these things. Its not for nothing the specialist devices still have their place for some who are too busy or simply not so easily able to adjust and learn all the details and capabilities of the latest Android wonder myricles.


Not wishing to stray into philosophical/political arguments but it does seem to me that not enough ownus is put on corporations and designers of operating systems to ensure easy access to the guts of their systems to make it easier for specialist tech vendors to make a more usable interface and lower the stress levels of those who quite reasonably want a easier to use interface which specialist devices aim to provide. To much emphasis put on individual skill and achievement for my liking.


Ray.


On 08/11/2023 11:23 am, Steve Nutt via groups.io wrote:
There are several of those. It really depends on size of device, budget, etc.
All the best
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of ltmmcarter@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 11:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

I am totally with you although you got there years before me.
Do you have any tips for a less dextrous soul, looking for an Android phone or tablet which connects to a Braille display but whose scrteen is large enough for my stubby fingers to navigate?
Thanks Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Hi,
There are streams that I believe you can import to your device, but I'm not sure where they are at this point.
For me, this is why these portable devices are becoming of less value, I'd sooner do it all on my phone. I can do Audible, BBC, RNIB Talking Books, everything on my phone, and I haven't got to wait for any given manufacturer to make it happen.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of ltmmcarter@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 11:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Hi Steve,
Is there any way of getting BBC without using Sounds?
My BS6 web radio could until a couple of weeks ago.
My lack of dexterity makes it difficult on Sounds, and BS6 Android Platform is primitive, don't mention the upcoming,promised, imm3eiq53immediate HIMS update, second coming will happen first!!
I love my bbc radio!
Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 8:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Yep, there is no BBC on Tune In, so it will be of little value to the UK.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 7:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Hi Matthieu

Thank you for letting us know.
I have not bought a new Stream yet, but have a question.

As the Internet Radio now uses TuneIn, does that mean we are restricted in the UK to what stations we can select, like we are on Alexa and Google?

Pele West







































Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

A brief perusal of the settings with the VR3 update installed does not show me RNIB DAISY audio book library as an option.? I was looking in the various account settings for the on-line libraries so wonder if, or when the RNIB library will be in there.


I know I could use the Synapptic adaptation sotware to access both RNIB and Calibre but I've not tried to use either yet.


If I were to use library services on a phone then killing the phone while I am listening would be a must for me.? Probably a tablet would be better for this sort of use.


Ray.

On 08/11/2023 04:17 pm, Mrs Villa wrote:
You can access both libraries using a synaptic phone. Calibre isn't available on the Echo as yet. They hope to have it available by Christmas I know as I've just spoken to someone from calibre. Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
Hi Steve and Matthew



When I had my in your pocket phone I could access calibre so it must be possible, that was 3 plus years ago.



Regards



Adrien



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



Hi,

This is incorrect, as Dolphin EasyReader for Android and iPhone can access Calibre.

All the best


Steve



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



Calibre, we had discussions with them, but they don’t have an API for us to access.



So for now, just RNIB.



Mathieu



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Adrien Collins via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:35 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement




EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.


COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew



Ok that’s good to know, are you doing calibre or just rnib? And I am on a different book now, will test the jumps once I get the up-date. Thanks.



Regards

Adrien



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:08 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



RNIB is being worked on as we speak, and will most likely make it for the 1.3 release in the first half of next year ?



For time jumps, we’ve made improvements. If you still have the issue, let me know.



Mathieu



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of adrien collins via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 9:02 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement




EXTERNAL EMAIL - Be vigilant with attachments and clickable links.


COURRIEL EXTERNE - Attention aux pièces jointes et aux liens cliquables.

Hi Matthew



Ok, thanks for this, looking forward to installing the up-date. Is anything being done to allow us to download either rnib or calibre books on to our streams?



I am currently reading some books and the time jump seems to be a bit messed up, not sure if it is the book or the stream. If I am jumping back 5 minutes, it doesn’t seem like 5 minutes, seems to be less time than that. Also in one book, the book jumped between section or chapter 36 and went to 32, I think this may be the book though.



I have always felt that the stream has a lot to offer, it is very versatile, there is a lot it could do. I have had all the streams, they’ve all been very good, thanks Matthew and keep up the good work.



Regards

Adrien



From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Mathieu via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 6:01 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement



Hi everyone!



I’m pleased to announce that 1.2 will be coming out… drumroll… TOMORROW!



That’s right! Tomorrow morning (sometime before noon Eastern time), we’ll be flipping the switch on for the over-the-air update from version 1.1 to version 1.2.



We know you’ve been waiting for it for a while… and I hope this was worth it! We think it is. ?



For TuneIn Radio, it is a first version of the implementation. Certain functionalities aren’t there yet (most notably, speed control in podcasts and the ability to resume playing where you left off in a podcast/book), as those features weren’t in the documentation we had from TuneIn. But we are working with them to get these in 1.3 (and added to their documentation for their future implementations!).



So without any further ado, here’s a list of new features, and bugfixes. Please note that the bugfixes are the most “visible” ones we fixed, but we fixed more than just what’s below. Again, we think you’ll really like it!





Victor Reader Stream 3 software update version 1.2 has the following new features:



TUNEIN RADIO

Listen to Internet radio stations and podcasts! You can listen anonymously, with a free account, or with a premium account. To learn more about TuneIn, visit their website at tunein.com .



DAISY ONLINE DYNAMIC MENUS

We are now supporting dynamic menus for Daisy Online (DOD) services, allowing the users to get personalized menus when navigating their national library. (This is mostly used outside of the US, the US doesn’t have a DOD library)



IMPROVED NLS BARD SEARCH

We are using the new API from NLS BARD which greatly improves search results. Try it! (English collection only for now)



CHANGE SYSTEM LANGUAGE ON-THE-FLY

You can now change your system's locale on the fly by accessing the Languages settings menu. You need to be connected to wifi as this will trigger a download of the new language.



BETTER SUPPORT FOR MAC FILES

The Stream 3 will now ignore "system" files (typically starting by a period or an underscore character) on SD cards.



SD CARD FORMATTING SUPPORT

Format your SD card directly in your Stream. Cards larger than 32gb will be formatted in exFat for better support. This option is in the diagnostic menu (boot using keys 2 6 and 8) for technical reasons.





And a lot of bugfixes! This new version fixes the following issues:



The 5 key will again give the podcast information when used

Improved HLS streams support for Internet radio (some stations that didn’t work before might work now)

Podcasts import files generated from the HumanWare Companion can now be imported

We now check for update immediately after adding a podcast feed instead of waiting for the next update window

Certain search results weren’t numbered, they are now

Jump by percentage in text file should behave better

Fixed a crash that erased the reading position in books after a shutdown

Go To in the notes bookshelf works properly now

Fixed an issue where some files couldn't be deleted in the $VRMusic folder

Fixed an issue where automatic shutdown after 30 minutes of inactivity would not happen

The Stream should return in the last used bookshelf after a reboot

Bookmarks now use the first available number instead of the number after the highest bookmark, consistent with the behavior on the Stream 2

Fixed an issue where you couldn’t copy books/write to card on certain SD cards 256 gigs and larger

Lots of Bookshare/text files interruptions were fixed. We are still seeing some issues and are investigating them but this release should be more stable.

Fixed level navigation in the References bookshelf

Navigation in NLS search results improved

Exporting playlists using the 3 key in the Internet Radio bookshelf now works properly

Offline bookshelves now refresh more smoothly when adding/removing content

Raised the limit for book size in Bookshare

Go To Time in Daisy/NISO books works properly now

Fixed some crashes when recording certain Internet Radio stations

Fixed some crashes and navigation issues in the podcast app

Fixed a crash when adding certain Internet radio stations to the favorites

Booting in diagnostic mode now plays a double beep

Improved time announcements

Fixed an issue where the TTS was sometimes cut prematurely when reading certain messages





And now that this is behind us, 1.3 is on the work table. I can’t start talking about it just yet, but one thing I can tell you is that the file ordering is, for me, one of the top priority features to get in 1.3.



Lastly, Peter Tucic and I will be doing a webinar on November 20th at 4pm Eastern time to discuss this new release! Please join us by registering at:



The future is looking good!

Mathieu Paquette

Product Manager

HumanWare












Re: Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

 

Yes.

All the best
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mrs Villa
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:29 PM
To: steve@...; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Thanks Steve. That's really interesting to know. Can one use the single tap option on Android for everything? Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
But an Android phone, you can set to single tap.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mrs Villa
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:20 PM
To: steve@...; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Steve the problem with using an iPhone is you have to double tap on everything. Not everybody can do that. That's why synaptic is very good for people who can't. Best Mrs Villa

----- Original Message -----
Ray, you are narrowing things too much. It's not just Android where we now have better access, iPhone is just as good.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 1:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Yes, afraid Steve and one or two others imersed in all things Android always say these things. Its not for nothing the specialist devices still have their place for some who are too busy or simply not so easily able to adjust and learn all the details and capabilities of the latest Android wonder myricles.


Not wishing to stray into philosophical/political arguments but it does seem to me that not enough ownus is put on corporations and designers of operating systems to ensure easy access to the guts of their systems to make it easier for specialist tech vendors to make a more usable interface and lower the stress levels of those who quite reasonably want a easier to use interface which specialist devices aim to provide. To much emphasis put on individual skill and achievement for my liking.


Ray.


On 08/11/2023 11:23 am, Steve Nutt via groups.io wrote:
There are several of those. It really depends on size of device, budget, etc.
All the best
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of ltmmcarter@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 11:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

I am totally with you although you got there years before me.
Do you have any tips for a less dextrous soul, looking for an Android phone or tablet which connects to a Braille display but whose scrteen is large enough for my stubby fingers to navigate?
Thanks Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Hi,
There are streams that I believe you can import to your device, but I'm not sure where they are at this point.
For me, this is why these portable devices are becoming of less value, I'd sooner do it all on my phone. I can do Audible, BBC, RNIB Talking Books, everything on my phone, and I haven't got to wait for any given manufacturer to make it happen.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of ltmmcarter@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 11:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Hi Steve,
Is there any way of getting BBC without using Sounds?
My BS6 web radio could until a couple of weeks ago.
My lack of dexterity makes it difficult on Sounds, and BS6 Android Platform is primitive, don't mention the upcoming,promised, imm3eiq53immediate HIMS update, second coming will happen first!!
I love my bbc radio!
Mary

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Steve Nutt via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 8:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Yep, there is no BBC on Tune In, so it will be of little value to the UK.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Pele West
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 7:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [dap-uk] Stream 3 - version 1.2 announcement

Hi Matthieu

Thank you for letting us know.
I have not bought a new Stream yet, but have a question.

As the Internet Radio now uses TuneIn, does that mean we are restricted in the UK to what stations we can select, like we are on Alexa and Google?

Pele West