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Good Morning Adrien

Sorry about that, having a senior moment ?

I have been having problems accessing my mailing lists following a server breakdown and just not receiving emails from the lists I subscribe to.?

Do you know who moderates? the [email protected] list?

Kind regards

Henry

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Hi Henry

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That’s not really one for this group but if you ask on access uk or vigen they may be better able to answer your question.

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Good Evening Folks

Using the latest IOS 16.1 with a IPhone XR and wonder if anyone knows how to increase the volume of the Siri response when I say: ?“hey Siri”?

Many thanks

Henry

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Hi Henry

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That’s not really one for this group but if you ask on access uk or vigen they may be better able to answer your question.

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Good Evening Folks

Using the latest IOS 16.1 with a IPhone XR and wonder if anyone knows how to increase the volume of the Siri response when I say: ?“hey Siri”?

Many thanks

Henry

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Good Evening Folks

Using the latest IOS 16.1 with a IPhone XR and wonder if anyone knows how to increase the volume of the Siri response when I say: ?“hey Siri”?

Many thanks

Henry

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I know Americans take DRM more seriously than here, but I had thought you needed a special player with a dongle or able to access a user code to play these books.? I'd be glad if someone could tell us more about BARD.

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the Stream will play Audible books if you activate an SD card on which to play them, but I know there are those here who can say more about this.? I do not have an Audible subscription.

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Still wating with bated breath to see what the latest version of the Stream wil bring us, but holding my breath much longer will prove fatal!

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Ray.

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Hi Gerry

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I am not in the states but I don’t think the stream can play protected books, am not sure, it may be one to ask on the other victor list.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jerry hathaway
Sent: 29 April 2022 23:11
To: vrstream <[email protected]>
Subject: [vrstreamuk] protected books

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I have tried to play books that I have downloaded from Bard and when I put them on my Victor stream player second edition I get that they are protected and cannot play them. Has anybody come up with this same problem and know what to do to solve this condition.

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Jerry

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Hi Gerry

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I am not in the states but I don’t think the stream can play protected books, am not sure, it may be one to ask on the other victor list.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jerry hathaway
Sent: 29 April 2022 23:11
To: vrstream <[email protected]>
Subject: [vrstreamuk] protected books

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I have tried to play books that I have downloaded from Bard and when I put them on my Victor stream player second edition I get that they are protected and cannot play them. Has anybody come up with this same problem and know what to do to solve this condition.

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Jerry

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I have found the manual for the 312 Ace we are discussing:

?

Oddly constructed and a lot of links repeat themselves, but percevering yields a lot of useful info.? You certainly learn a whole new interface if moving to the Milestone

?

Amongst the oddities I came across were the fact that this player includes an FM transmitter so, in spite of it having Bluetooth - as I undertand it - you can transmit to any FM radio round your home.

?

Seems to have good microphone and line recording though I am unclear as to whether you can turn off the 2 volt powering for external mics.

?

It supports playback bit rates up to 320kbs which should mean it will handle high quality downloads of books and most music, or I would hope so.? that might mean too that the internet radio side of things might handle the higher quality BBC streams I so much want to access.

?

On this subject, Adrian, pleas try pasting this into notepad:

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Do this with no extra spaces or return characters, and then save as RadioSheffield_HQ.m3u

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Copying that file to the Milestone hopefully will result in Radio Sheffield's HQ feed playing, and? prove or not that it will work.

?

I did not find much about Wi-Fi and internet radio capabilities but then I have not looked thoroughly as yet.

?

The Milestone has an FM radio receiver and one feature of the operating system is you can lable FM presets.

?

In fact their is a "config.sys " file where you can change settings but how well this is documented I do not know.

?

Bones turns out to be a Swiss-based outfit though I wonder if the .ch extention signifies a Chinese connection?

?

Looks more and more like I shal be buying one as finances allow given the Trek is simply languishing in the state its been at these last three years and more.? It would be nice to hear how reliable the Milestone is proving to be using its Wi-Fi connection.? It is generally admitted how flakey the Trek is in terms of its modem and slow download speeds and it Bluetooth can be very iffy too.

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So keep the information flowing.

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Ray.

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Hi Ray

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I have all the manuals for the evo 10 here, I think vision aid sent me them, you only have to ask, and yes a lot of it is down to the user but it depends on how tech savi you are, some of them are pretty tricky to work out but once you get your head round it, it often gets easier. I am not too familiar with radio stations, I rely on others such as Pele to produce them, I can never work out how to create play lists. I know if you search on google, you can find websites where you can download pls and other play list files as I have found a few, also I think some websites where they host radio stations such as planet radio, you can download the play list files from there.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 18 February 2022 02:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vrstreamuk] Milestone 312 Ace vs VR Trek

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Thank you Claire Always nice to have a new person on the list.

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What you say re. the Milestone Player you had, I wonder if the speech rate adjustment is better these days on the new players.? I hope Christopher can answer this one.

?

Had a quick scan through the Youtube discussion and Humanware's contribution is around 15 minutes in.? At the time of that discussion little that was firm had been decided about the design of the new mobility navigation aid, but a possible release date of May 2022 was mentioned.? Nothing here about development of a new audio player.

?

I hope Christopher can try out the HQ feed on the 312 ace as it would be a big factor in me deciding to by one if these can be played on the latest Milestone.

?

As for the Evo 10 it seems so much is down to the user to work out.? Would be so much better if someone put the effort into doing a propper manual and provide ready made playlists for radio as well.? With the 312 Ace again a propper guide or manual would surely improve matters.? Sorry to say too much is assumed by one or two dealers about the user sorting all this out.? So lots of effort by individual users, not enough serious investment in time by makers or sellers in producing a good user guide.

?

these things being specialist players are pretty expensive so a great pitty that one seems to have to own all of them to cover all needs.? Occured to me once again while listening to that Youtube discussion that Humanware might do well to produce a keypad-driven companion to use with a smart phone and so take advantage of software being updated on the phone instead of ripping out the mother board every time a new version of Android arrives.

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Ray.

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On 17/02/2022 05:52 pm, claire amoroso wrote:

Hi,?

I had a predecessor to the Milestone Ace 312 wifi when my Victor Stream second generation went into repair some years ago and loved its small size and the built in alarm clock features but was happy when I got my Stream back as I found I couldn't speed up the built in TTS voice without it sounding choppy, it didn't support as many file formats and I found the lack of a keypad quite difficult at times.?

I have heard some people going for the Evo10 daisy player as a replacement or complimentary to the Stream, which I may be interested in.?

I have heard that Human ware are developing a new device, but it seems to be more geared towards GPS features rather than book reading.?

Please see video below from the Sight tech global conference YouTube channel:?

?

Claire?

On 17 Feb 2022, at 17:19, Rea Lists <reaslists@...> wrote:

?Some facts and user experiences are now beginning to filter through about the latest Wi-Fi equipped Milestone 312 Ace player and Wi-Fi radio.? Player and radio Radio and playing audio files and books are its prime features although it will do more with added colour identifier modules and one or two other things which I think are paid-for extras.? So here's what I have heard so far and some detailed questions to folow.


So far I have heard via Access-UK list of its more flexible file system without the need to place books and other audio files in specific places, although the VR Trek's insistance on doing this has never been a chaw for me.


Its smallness is a selling point being, we are told, little bigger than a credit card if a little thicker.? I will say that being able "to put it in a shirt pocket" has never held great apeal for me;? no doubt that's just a personal thing.


I do wish though that this latest Milestone had acquired a Podcast player but alas! it will be some time before that appears.? It is nice to have more than skeletel information on this Bones Player from Germany.


Now, I should no doubt try writing to Milestone on the Podcast player suggestion but more important to me at the moment is, Will this Milestone handle BBC High Quality internet streams?? I am hoping that Adrian who's on this list can try these out - which wil work only within the UK.









I wonder if these rather long and convoluted URLs are actually from a third party site, but I know there is at least one person here who might answer this, and even know of a convenient place where (all) BBC high quality radio feeds are listed.? I in fact got to the feeds above by looking at:




I looked at the answer for accessing BBC Radio Sheffield and then modified that for the other two stations above.


It could well be these feeds are used by Smart Speakers to access radio via BBC Sounds.? They address the annoyance I have not being able to access BBC local radio on the VR Trek using the lowwer quality 128 kbs streams,?? denied to us until Sunday due to the Winter Olympics.? Pretty The HQ streams will not get around accessing local sport due to rights issues.? Sure the Trek will not handle the HQ feeds.


Its looking like the Milestone may become the favoured internet radio and player for vI people in the UK.? the dealer selling it here has been misleading in implying the trek does not do Blue Tooth (and) Wi-Fi, which we all know isn't true.



so, any thoughts?? Anyone hearing of a Trek replacement


Ray.

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It does appear now I have looked further there is indeed a supplemental manual for the Wi_fi edition of the 312 Ace.? If that is only available in German then how the hell are the majority here in the UK going to get to learn to use this player to the full?? At the very least the German text could be put through Google translate but I am sure there's some here with their good educaitonal background who could do us the favour of translating it.? Certainly Bones should be being asked to provide a speedy translation.

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I hear now the Wi-Fi version of the 312 has a different processor on board and it could well be the FM transmitter mentioned in the body of the manual has been taken out of the Wi-Fi model as this does have Bluetooth which has become very widely used now.

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Pleas let me know ASAP if the Radio Sheffield HQ feed will play on the 312 Wi-Fi.

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Ray.

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Hi Ray

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A few things, I copied the radio Sheffield url to the m3u file like you suggested, put it on the milestone, haven’t brought it up yet but am still familiarising myself with the milestone. The audio playback is pretty good, I have it linked to speakers also, the bluetooth is pretty stable. The wifi seems good too. I haven’t played with the wifi too much as I have been sleeping a lot lately. ?

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As for the wifi and internet, they are not mentioned in the user manual, Steve Nutt sent me a supplement file which covers the more advanced info such as wifi etc but the file he sent me was in German which made it more difficult to work out but the basics are the same.

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It is going to take me a while to get used to the milestone as it is completely different to anything else I have used, I will try putting the file I made on the evo 10, see how that works, it is easier to find files you add on the evo.

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I have come away from the stream because they are not being up-dated.

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Yes will keep info coming as I find it out. ??

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 19 February 2022 15:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: More info and manual for Milestone 312 ACE was - Re: [vrstreamuk] Milestone 312 Ace vs VR Trek

?

I have found the manual for the 312 Ace we are discussing:

?

Oddly constructed and a lot of links repeat themselves, but percevering yields a lot of useful info.? You certainly learn a whole new interface if moving to the Milestone

?

Amongst the oddities I came across were the fact that this player includes an FM transmitter so, in spite of it having Bluetooth - as I undertand it - you can transmit to any FM radio round your home.

?

Seems to have good microphone and line recording though I am unclear as to whether you can turn off the 2 volt powering for external mics.

?

It supports playback bit rates up to 320kbs which should mean it will handle high quality downloads of books and most music, or I would hope so.? that might mean too that the internet radio side of things might handle the higher quality BBC streams I so much want to access.

?

On this subject, Adrian, pleas try pasting this into notepad:

?

Do this with no extra spaces or return characters, and then save as RadioSheffield_HQ.m3u

?

Copying that file to the Milestone hopefully will result in Radio Sheffield's HQ feed playing, and? prove or not that it will work.

?

I did not find much about Wi-Fi and internet radio capabilities but then I have not looked thoroughly as yet.

?

The Milestone has an FM radio receiver and one feature of the operating system is you can lable FM presets.

?

In fact their is a "config.sys " file where you can change settings but how well this is documented I do not know.

?

Bones turns out to be a Swiss-based outfit though I wonder if the .ch extention signifies a Chinese connection?

?

Looks more and more like I shal be buying one as finances allow given the Trek is simply languishing in the state its been at these last three years and more.? It would be nice to hear how reliable the Milestone is proving to be using its Wi-Fi connection.? It is generally admitted how flakey the Trek is in terms of its modem and slow download speeds and it Bluetooth can be very iffy too.

?

So keep the information flowing.

?

Ray.

?

?

?

?

?

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On 18/02/2022 06:10 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi Ray

?

I have all the manuals for the evo 10 here, I think vision aid sent me them, you only have to ask, and yes a lot of it is down to the user but it depends on how tech savi you are, some of them are pretty tricky to work out but once you get your head round it, it often gets easier. I am not too familiar with radio stations, I rely on others such as Pele to produce them, I can never work out how to create play lists. I know if you search on google, you can find websites where you can download pls and other play list files as I have found a few, also I think some websites where they host radio stations such as planet radio, you can download the play list files from there.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 18 February 2022 02:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vrstreamuk] Milestone 312 Ace vs VR Trek

?

Thank you Claire Always nice to have a new person on the list.

?

What you say re. the Milestone Player you had, I wonder if the speech rate adjustment is better these days on the new players.? I hope Christopher can answer this one.

?

Had a quick scan through the Youtube discussion and Humanware's contribution is around 15 minutes in.? At the time of that discussion little that was firm had been decided about the design of the new mobility navigation aid, but a possible release date of May 2022 was mentioned.? Nothing here about development of a new audio player.

?

I hope Christopher can try out the HQ feed on the 312 ace as it would be a big factor in me deciding to by one if these can be played on the latest Milestone.

?

As for the Evo 10 it seems so much is down to the user to work out.? Would be so much better if someone put the effort into doing a propper manual and provide ready made playlists for radio as well.? With the 312 Ace again a propper guide or manual would surely improve matters.? Sorry to say too much is assumed by one or two dealers about the user sorting all this out.? So lots of effort by individual users, not enough serious investment in time by makers or sellers in producing a good user guide.

?

these things being specialist players are pretty expensive so a great pitty that one seems to have to own all of them to cover all needs.? Occured to me once again while listening to that Youtube discussion that Humanware might do well to produce a keypad-driven companion to use with a smart phone and so take advantage of software being updated on the phone instead of ripping out the mother board every time a new version of Android arrives.

?

Ray.

?

?

?

?

?

On 17/02/2022 05:52 pm, claire amoroso wrote:

Hi,?

I had a predecessor to the Milestone Ace 312 wifi when my Victor Stream second generation went into repair some years ago and loved its small size and the built in alarm clock features but was happy when I got my Stream back as I found I couldn't speed up the built in TTS voice without it sounding choppy, it didn't support as many file formats and I found the lack of a keypad quite difficult at times.?

I have heard some people going for the Evo10 daisy player as a replacement or complimentary to the Stream, which I may be interested in.?

I have heard that Human ware are developing a new device, but it seems to be more geared towards GPS features rather than book reading.?

Please see video below from the Sight tech global conference YouTube channel:?

?

Claire?

On 17 Feb 2022, at 17:19, Rea Lists <reaslists@...> wrote:

?Some facts and user experiences are now beginning to filter through about the latest Wi-Fi equipped Milestone 312 Ace player and Wi-Fi radio.? Player and radio Radio and playing audio files and books are its prime features although it will do more with added colour identifier modules and one or two other things which I think are paid-for extras.? So here's what I have heard so far and some detailed questions to folow.


So far I have heard via Access-UK list of its more flexible file system without the need to place books and other audio files in specific places, although the VR Trek's insistance on doing this has never been a chaw for me.


Its smallness is a selling point being, we are told, little bigger than a credit card if a little thicker.? I will say that being able "to put it in a shirt pocket" has never held great apeal for me;? no doubt that's just a personal thing.


I do wish though that this latest Milestone had acquired a Podcast player but alas! it will be some time before that appears.? It is nice to have more than skeletel information on this Bones Player from Germany.


Now, I should no doubt try writing to Milestone on the Podcast player suggestion but more important to me at the moment is, Will this Milestone handle BBC High Quality internet streams?? I am hoping that Adrian who's on this list can try these out - which wil work only within the UK.









I wonder if these rather long and convoluted URLs are actually from a third party site, but I know there is at least one person here who might answer this, and even know of a convenient place where (all) BBC high quality radio feeds are listed.? I in fact got to the feeds above by looking at:




I looked at the answer for accessing BBC Radio Sheffield and then modified that for the other two stations above.


It could well be these feeds are used by Smart Speakers to access radio via BBC Sounds.? They address the annoyance I have not being able to access BBC local radio on the VR Trek using the lowwer quality 128 kbs streams,?? denied to us until Sunday due to the Winter Olympics.? Pretty The HQ streams will not get around accessing local sport due to rights issues.? Sure the Trek will not handle the HQ feeds.


Its looking like the Milestone may become the favoured internet radio and player for vI people in the UK.? the dealer selling it here has been misleading in implying the trek does not do Blue Tooth (and) Wi-Fi, which we all know isn't true.



so, any thoughts?? Anyone hearing of a Trek replacement


Ray.

?

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This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.

Hi Ray

?

A few things, I copied the radio Sheffield url to the m3u file like you suggested, put it on the milestone, haven’t brought it up yet but am still familiarising myself with the milestone. The audio playback is pretty good, I have it linked to speakers also, the bluetooth is pretty stable. The wifi seems good too. I haven’t played with the wifi too much as I have been sleeping a lot lately. ?

?

As for the wifi and internet, they are not mentioned in the user manual, Steve Nutt sent me a supplement file which covers the more advanced info such as wifi etc but the file he sent me was in German which made it more difficult to work out but the basics are the same.

?

It is going to take me a while to get used to the milestone as it is completely different to anything else I have used, I will try putting the file I made on the evo 10, see how that works, it is easier to find files you add on the evo.

?

I have come away from the stream because they are not being up-dated.

?

Yes will keep info coming as I find it out. ??

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 19 February 2022 15:53
To: [email protected]
Subject: More info and manual for Milestone 312 ACE was - Re: [vrstreamuk] Milestone 312 Ace vs VR Trek

?

I have found the manual for the 312 Ace we are discussing:

?

Oddly constructed and a lot of links repeat themselves, but percevering yields a lot of useful info.? You certainly learn a whole new interface if moving to the Milestone

?

Amongst the oddities I came across were the fact that this player includes an FM transmitter so, in spite of it having Bluetooth - as I undertand it - you can transmit to any FM radio round your home.

?

Seems to have good microphone and line recording though I am unclear as to whether you can turn off the 2 volt powering for external mics.

?

It supports playback bit rates up to 320kbs which should mean it will handle high quality downloads of books and most music, or I would hope so.? that might mean too that the internet radio side of things might handle the higher quality BBC streams I so much want to access.

?

On this subject, Adrian, pleas try pasting this into notepad:

?

Do this with no extra spaces or return characters, and then save as RadioSheffield_HQ.m3u

?

Copying that file to the Milestone hopefully will result in Radio Sheffield's HQ feed playing, and? prove or not that it will work.

?

I did not find much about Wi-Fi and internet radio capabilities but then I have not looked thoroughly as yet.

?

The Milestone has an FM radio receiver and one feature of the operating system is you can lable FM presets.

?

In fact their is a "config.sys " file where you can change settings but how well this is documented I do not know.

?

Bones turns out to be a Swiss-based outfit though I wonder if the .ch extention signifies a Chinese connection?

?

Looks more and more like I shal be buying one as finances allow given the Trek is simply languishing in the state its been at these last three years and more.? It would be nice to hear how reliable the Milestone is proving to be using its Wi-Fi connection.? It is generally admitted how flakey the Trek is in terms of its modem and slow download speeds and it Bluetooth can be very iffy too.

?

So keep the information flowing.

?

Ray.

?

?

?

?

?

?

On 18/02/2022 06:10 am, adrien collins wrote:

Hi Ray

?

I have all the manuals for the evo 10 here, I think vision aid sent me them, you only have to ask, and yes a lot of it is down to the user but it depends on how tech savi you are, some of them are pretty tricky to work out but once you get your head round it, it often gets easier. I am not too familiar with radio stations, I rely on others such as Pele to produce them, I can never work out how to create play lists. I know if you search on google, you can find websites where you can download pls and other play list files as I have found a few, also I think some websites where they host radio stations such as planet radio, you can download the play list files from there.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 18 February 2022 02:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vrstreamuk] Milestone 312 Ace vs VR Trek

?

Thank you Claire Always nice to have a new person on the list.

?

What you say re. the Milestone Player you had, I wonder if the speech rate adjustment is better these days on the new players.? I hope Christopher can answer this one.

?

Had a quick scan through the Youtube discussion and Humanware's contribution is around 15 minutes in.? At the time of that discussion little that was firm had been decided about the design of the new mobility navigation aid, but a possible release date of May 2022 was mentioned.? Nothing here about development of a new audio player.

?

I hope Christopher can try out the HQ feed on the 312 ace as it would be a big factor in me deciding to by one if these can be played on the latest Milestone.

?

As for the Evo 10 it seems so much is down to the user to work out.? Would be so much better if someone put the effort into doing a propper manual and provide ready made playlists for radio as well.? With the 312 Ace again a propper guide or manual would surely improve matters.? Sorry to say too much is assumed by one or two dealers about the user sorting all this out.? So lots of effort by individual users, not enough serious investment in time by makers or sellers in producing a good user guide.

?

these things being specialist players are pretty expensive so a great pitty that one seems to have to own all of them to cover all needs.? Occured to me once again while listening to that Youtube discussion that Humanware might do well to produce a keypad-driven companion to use with a smart phone and so take advantage of software being updated on the phone instead of ripping out the mother board every time a new version of Android arrives.

?

Ray.

?

?

?

?

?

On 17/02/2022 05:52 pm, claire amoroso wrote:

Hi,?

I had a predecessor to the Milestone Ace 312 wifi when my Victor Stream second generation went into repair some years ago and loved its small size and the built in alarm clock features but was happy when I got my Stream back as I found I couldn't speed up the built in TTS voice without it sounding choppy, it didn't support as many file formats and I found the lack of a keypad quite difficult at times.?

I have heard some people going for the Evo10 daisy player as a replacement or complimentary to the Stream, which I may be interested in.?

I have heard that Human ware are developing a new device, but it seems to be more geared towards GPS features rather than book reading.?

Please see video below from the Sight tech global conference YouTube channel:?

?

Claire?

On 17 Feb 2022, at 17:19, Rea Lists <reaslists@...> wrote:

?Some facts and user experiences are now beginning to filter through about the latest Wi-Fi equipped Milestone 312 Ace player and Wi-Fi radio.? Player and radio Radio and playing audio files and books are its prime features although it will do more with added colour identifier modules and one or two other things which I think are paid-for extras.? So here's what I have heard so far and some detailed questions to folow.


So far I have heard via Access-UK list of its more flexible file system without the need to place books and other audio files in specific places, although the VR Trek's insistance on doing this has never been a chaw for me.


Its smallness is a selling point being, we are told, little bigger than a credit card if a little thicker.? I will say that being able "to put it in a shirt pocket" has never held great apeal for me;? no doubt that's just a personal thing.


I do wish though that this latest Milestone had acquired a Podcast player but alas! it will be some time before that appears.? It is nice to have more than skeletel information on this Bones Player from Germany.


Now, I should no doubt try writing to Milestone on the Podcast player suggestion but more important to me at the moment is, Will this Milestone handle BBC High Quality internet streams?? I am hoping that Adrian who's on this list can try these out - which wil work only within the UK.









I wonder if these rather long and convoluted URLs are actually from a third party site, but I know there is at least one person here who might answer this, and even know of a convenient place where (all) BBC high quality radio feeds are listed.? I in fact got to the feeds above by looking at:




I looked at the answer for accessing BBC Radio Sheffield and then modified that for the other two stations above.


It could well be these feeds are used by Smart Speakers to access radio via BBC Sounds.? They address the annoyance I have not being able to access BBC local radio on the VR Trek using the lowwer quality 128 kbs streams,?? denied to us until Sunday due to the Winter Olympics.? Pretty The HQ streams will not get around accessing local sport due to rights issues.? Sure the Trek will not handle the HQ feeds.


Its looking like the Milestone may become the favoured internet radio and player for vI people in the UK.? the dealer selling it here has been misleading in implying the trek does not do Blue Tooth (and) Wi-Fi, which we all know isn't true.



so, any thoughts?? Anyone hearing of a Trek replacement


Ray.

?

---

This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.

?

I have found the manual for the 312 Ace we are discussing:

?

Oddly constructed and a lot of links repeat themselves, but percevering yields a lot of useful info.? You certainly learn a whole new interface if moving to the Milestone

?

Amongst the oddities I came across were the fact that this player includes an FM transmitter so, in spite of it having Bluetooth - as I undertand it - you can transmit to any FM radio round your home.

?

Seems to have good microphone and line recording though I am unclear as to whether you can turn off the 2 volt powering for external mics.

?

It supports playback bit rates up to 320kbs which should mean it will handle high quality downloads of books and most music, or I would hope so.? that might mean too that the internet radio side of things might handle the higher quality BBC streams I so much want to access.

?

On this subject, Adrian, pleas try pasting this into notepad:

?

Do this with no extra spaces or return characters, and then save as RadioSheffield_HQ.m3u

?

Copying that file to the Milestone hopefully will result in Radio Sheffield's HQ feed playing, and? prove or not that it will work.

?

I did not find much about Wi-Fi and internet radio capabilities but then I have not looked thoroughly as yet.

?

The Milestone has an FM radio receiver and one feature of the operating system is you can lable FM presets.

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In fact their is a "config.sys " file where you can change settings but how well this is documented I do not know.

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Bones turns out to be a Swiss-based outfit though I wonder if the .ch extention signifies a Chinese connection?

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Looks more and more like I shal be buying one as finances allow given the Trek is simply languishing in the state its been at these last three years and more.? It would be nice to hear how reliable the Milestone is proving to be using its Wi-Fi connection.? It is generally admitted how flakey the Trek is in terms of its modem and slow download speeds and it Bluetooth can be very iffy too.

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So keep the information flowing.

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Ray.

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Hi Ray

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I have all the manuals for the evo 10 here, I think vision aid sent me them, you only have to ask, and yes a lot of it is down to the user but it depends on how tech savi you are, some of them are pretty tricky to work out but once you get your head round it, it often gets easier. I am not too familiar with radio stations, I rely on others such as Pele to produce them, I can never work out how to create play lists. I know if you search on google, you can find websites where you can download pls and other play list files as I have found a few, also I think some websites where they host radio stations such as planet radio, you can download the play list files from there.

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Regards

Adrien

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 18 February 2022 02:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vrstreamuk] Milestone 312 Ace vs VR Trek

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Thank you Claire Always nice to have a new person on the list.

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What you say re. the Milestone Player you had, I wonder if the speech rate adjustment is better these days on the new players.? I hope Christopher can answer this one.

?

Had a quick scan through the Youtube discussion and Humanware's contribution is around 15 minutes in.? At the time of that discussion little that was firm had been decided about the design of the new mobility navigation aid, but a possible release date of May 2022 was mentioned.? Nothing here about development of a new audio player.

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I hope Christopher can try out the HQ feed on the 312 ace as it would be a big factor in me deciding to by one if these can be played on the latest Milestone.

?

As for the Evo 10 it seems so much is down to the user to work out.? Would be so much better if someone put the effort into doing a propper manual and provide ready made playlists for radio as well.? With the 312 Ace again a propper guide or manual would surely improve matters.? Sorry to say too much is assumed by one or two dealers about the user sorting all this out.? So lots of effort by individual users, not enough serious investment in time by makers or sellers in producing a good user guide.

?

these things being specialist players are pretty expensive so a great pitty that one seems to have to own all of them to cover all needs.? Occured to me once again while listening to that Youtube discussion that Humanware might do well to produce a keypad-driven companion to use with a smart phone and so take advantage of software being updated on the phone instead of ripping out the mother board every time a new version of Android arrives.

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Ray.

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On 17/02/2022 05:52 pm, claire amoroso wrote:

Hi,?

I had a predecessor to the Milestone Ace 312 wifi when my Victor Stream second generation went into repair some years ago and loved its small size and the built in alarm clock features but was happy when I got my Stream back as I found I couldn't speed up the built in TTS voice without it sounding choppy, it didn't support as many file formats and I found the lack of a keypad quite difficult at times.?

I have heard some people going for the Evo10 daisy player as a replacement or complimentary to the Stream, which I may be interested in.?

I have heard that Human ware are developing a new device, but it seems to be more geared towards GPS features rather than book reading.?

Please see video below from the Sight tech global conference YouTube channel:?

?

Claire?

On 17 Feb 2022, at 17:19, Rea Lists <reaslists@...> wrote:

?Some facts and user experiences are now beginning to filter through about the latest Wi-Fi equipped Milestone 312 Ace player and Wi-Fi radio.? Player and radio Radio and playing audio files and books are its prime features although it will do more with added colour identifier modules and one or two other things which I think are paid-for extras.? So here's what I have heard so far and some detailed questions to folow.


So far I have heard via Access-UK list of its more flexible file system without the need to place books and other audio files in specific places, although the VR Trek's insistance on doing this has never been a chaw for me.


Its smallness is a selling point being, we are told, little bigger than a credit card if a little thicker.? I will say that being able "to put it in a shirt pocket" has never held great apeal for me;? no doubt that's just a personal thing.


I do wish though that this latest Milestone had acquired a Podcast player but alas! it will be some time before that appears.? It is nice to have more than skeletel information on this Bones Player from Germany.


Now, I should no doubt try writing to Milestone on the Podcast player suggestion but more important to me at the moment is, Will this Milestone handle BBC High Quality internet streams?? I am hoping that Adrian who's on this list can try these out - which wil work only within the UK.









I wonder if these rather long and convoluted URLs are actually from a third party site, but I know there is at least one person here who might answer this, and even know of a convenient place where (all) BBC high quality radio feeds are listed.? I in fact got to the feeds above by looking at:




I looked at the answer for accessing BBC Radio Sheffield and then modified that for the other two stations above.


It could well be these feeds are used by Smart Speakers to access radio via BBC Sounds.? They address the annoyance I have not being able to access BBC local radio on the VR Trek using the lowwer quality 128 kbs streams,?? denied to us until Sunday due to the Winter Olympics.? Pretty The HQ streams will not get around accessing local sport due to rights issues.? Sure the Trek will not handle the HQ feeds.


Its looking like the Milestone may become the favoured internet radio and player for vI people in the UK.? the dealer selling it here has been misleading in implying the trek does not do Blue Tooth (and) Wi-Fi, which we all know isn't true.



so, any thoughts?? Anyone hearing of a Trek replacement


Ray.

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Hi Ray

?

I have all the manuals for the evo 10 here, I think vision aid sent me them, you only have to ask, and yes a lot of it is down to the user but it depends on how tech savi you are, some of them are pretty tricky to work out but once you get your head round it, it often gets easier. I am not too familiar with radio stations, I rely on others such as Pele to produce them, I can never work out how to create play lists. I know if you search on google, you can find websites where you can download pls and other play list files as I have found a few, also I think some websites where they host radio stations such as planet radio, you can download the play list files from there.

?

Regards

Adrien

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Rea Lists
Sent: 18 February 2022 02:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [vrstreamuk] Milestone 312 Ace vs VR Trek

?

Thank you Claire Always nice to have a new person on the list.

?

What you say re. the Milestone Player you had, I wonder if the speech rate adjustment is better these days on the new players.? I hope Christopher can answer this one.

?

Had a quick scan through the Youtube discussion and Humanware's contribution is around 15 minutes in.? At the time of that discussion little that was firm had been decided about the design of the new mobility navigation aid, but a possible release date of May 2022 was mentioned.? Nothing here about development of a new audio player.

?

I hope Christopher can try out the HQ feed on the 312 ace as it would be a big factor in me deciding to by one if these can be played on the latest Milestone.

?

As for the Evo 10 it seems so much is down to the user to work out.? Would be so much better if someone put the effort into doing a propper manual and provide ready made playlists for radio as well.? With the 312 Ace again a propper guide or manual would surely improve matters.? Sorry to say too much is assumed by one or two dealers about the user sorting all this out.? So lots of effort by individual users, not enough serious investment in time by makers or sellers in producing a good user guide.

?

these things being specialist players are pretty expensive so a great pitty that one seems to have to own all of them to cover all needs.? Occured to me once again while listening to that Youtube discussion that Humanware might do well to produce a keypad-driven companion to use with a smart phone and so take advantage of software being updated on the phone instead of ripping out the mother board every time a new version of Android arrives.

?

Ray.

?

?

?

?

?

On 17/02/2022 05:52 pm, claire amoroso wrote:

Hi,?

I had a predecessor to the Milestone Ace 312 wifi when my Victor Stream second generation went into repair some years ago and loved its small size and the built in alarm clock features but was happy when I got my Stream back as I found I couldn't speed up the built in TTS voice without it sounding choppy, it didn't support as many file formats and I found the lack of a keypad quite difficult at times.?

I have heard some people going for the Evo10 daisy player as a replacement or complimentary to the Stream, which I may be interested in.?

I have heard that Human ware are developing a new device, but it seems to be more geared towards GPS features rather than book reading.?

Please see video below from the Sight tech global conference YouTube channel:?

?

Claire?

On 17 Feb 2022, at 17:19, Rea Lists <reaslists@...> wrote:

?Some facts and user experiences are now beginning to filter through about the latest Wi-Fi equipped Milestone 312 Ace player and Wi-Fi radio.? Player and radio Radio and playing audio files and books are its prime features although it will do more with added colour identifier modules and one or two other things which I think are paid-for extras.? So here's what I have heard so far and some detailed questions to folow.


So far I have heard via Access-UK list of its more flexible file system without the need to place books and other audio files in specific places, although the VR Trek's insistance on doing this has never been a chaw for me.


Its smallness is a selling point being, we are told, little bigger than a credit card if a little thicker.? I will say that being able "to put it in a shirt pocket" has never held great apeal for me;? no doubt that's just a personal thing.


I do wish though that this latest Milestone had acquired a Podcast player but alas! it will be some time before that appears.? It is nice to have more than skeletel information on this Bones Player from Germany.


Now, I should no doubt try writing to Milestone on the Podcast player suggestion but more important to me at the moment is, Will this Milestone handle BBC High Quality internet streams?? I am hoping that Adrian who's on this list can try these out - which wil work only within the UK.









I wonder if these rather long and convoluted URLs are actually from a third party site, but I know there is at least one person here who might answer this, and even know of a convenient place where (all) BBC high quality radio feeds are listed.? I in fact got to the feeds above by looking at:




I looked at the answer for accessing BBC Radio Sheffield and then modified that for the other two stations above.


It could well be these feeds are used by Smart Speakers to access radio via BBC Sounds.? They address the annoyance I have not being able to access BBC local radio on the VR Trek using the lowwer quality 128 kbs streams,?? denied to us until Sunday due to the Winter Olympics.? Pretty The HQ streams will not get around accessing local sport due to rights issues.? Sure the Trek will not handle the HQ feeds.


Its looking like the Milestone may become the favoured internet radio and player for vI people in the UK.? the dealer selling it here has been misleading in implying the trek does not do Blue Tooth (and) Wi-Fi, which we all know isn't true.



so, any thoughts?? Anyone hearing of a Trek replacement


Ray.

---

This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.

?

Thank you Claire Always nice to have a new person on the list.

?

What you say re. the Milestone Player you had, I wonder if the speech rate adjustment is better these days on the new players.? I hope Christopher can answer this one.

?

Had a quick scan through the Youtube discussion and Humanware's contribution is around 15 minutes in.? At the time of that discussion little that was firm had been decided about the design of the new mobility navigation aid, but a possible release date of May 2022 was mentioned.? Nothing here about development of a new audio player.

?

I hope Christopher can try out the HQ feed on the 312 ace as it would be a big factor in me deciding to by one if these can be played on the latest Milestone.

?

As for the Evo 10 it seems so much is down to the user to work out.? Would be so much better if someone put the effort into doing a propper manual and provide ready made playlists for radio as well.? With the 312 Ace again a propper guide or manual would surely improve matters.? Sorry to say too much is assumed by one or two dealers about the user sorting all this out.? So lots of effort by individual users, not enough serious investment in time by makers or sellers in producing a good user guide.

?

these things being specialist players are pretty expensive so a great pitty that one seems to have to own all of them to cover all needs.? Occured to me once again while listening to that Youtube discussion that Humanware might do well to produce a keypad-driven companion to use with a smart phone and so take advantage of software being updated on the phone instead of ripping out the mother board every time a new version of Android arrives.

?

Ray.

?

?

?

?

?

Hi,?

I had a predecessor to the Milestone Ace 312 wifi when my Victor Stream second generation went into repair some years ago and loved its small size and the built in alarm clock features but was happy when I got my Stream back as I found I couldn't speed up the built in TTS voice without it sounding choppy, it didn't support as many file formats and I found the lack of a keypad quite difficult at times.?

I have heard some people going for the Evo10 daisy player as a replacement or complimentary to the Stream, which I may be interested in.?

I have heard that Human ware are developing a new device, but it seems to be more geared towards GPS features rather than book reading.?

Please see video below from the Sight tech global conference YouTube channel:?

?

Claire?

On 17 Feb 2022, at 17:19, Rea Lists <reaslists@...> wrote:

?Some facts and user experiences are now beginning to filter through about the latest Wi-Fi equipped Milestone 312 Ace player and Wi-Fi radio.? Player and radio Radio and playing audio files and books are its prime features although it will do more with added colour identifier modules and one or two other things which I think are paid-for extras.? So here's what I have heard so far and some detailed questions to folow.


So far I have heard via Access-UK list of its more flexible file system without the need to place books and other audio files in specific places, although the VR Trek's insistance on doing this has never been a chaw for me.


Its smallness is a selling point being, we are told, little bigger than a credit card if a little thicker.? I will say that being able "to put it in a shirt pocket" has never held great apeal for me;? no doubt that's just a personal thing.


I do wish though that this latest Milestone had acquired a Podcast player but alas! it will be some time before that appears.? It is nice to have more than skeletel information on this Bones Player from Germany.


Now, I should no doubt try writing to Milestone on the Podcast player suggestion but more important to me at the moment is, Will this Milestone handle BBC High Quality internet streams?? I am hoping that Adrian who's on this list can try these out - which wil work only within the UK.









I wonder if these rather long and convoluted URLs are actually from a third party site, but I know there is at least one person here who might answer this, and even know of a convenient place where (all) BBC high quality radio feeds are listed.? I in fact got to the feeds above by looking at:




I looked at the answer for accessing BBC Radio Sheffield and then modified that for the other two stations above.


It could well be these feeds are used by Smart Speakers to access radio via BBC Sounds.? They address the annoyance I have not being able to access BBC local radio on the VR Trek using the lowwer quality 128 kbs streams,?? denied to us until Sunday due to the Winter Olympics.? Pretty The HQ streams will not get around accessing local sport due to rights issues.? Sure the Trek will not handle the HQ feeds.


Its looking like the Milestone may become the favoured internet radio and player for vI people in the UK.? the dealer selling it here has been misleading in implying the trek does not do Blue Tooth (and) Wi-Fi, which we all know isn't true.



so, any thoughts?? Anyone hearing of a Trek replacement


Ray.

Hi,?

I had a predecessor to the Milestone Ace 312 wifi when my Victor Stream second generation went into repair some years ago and loved its small size and the built in alarm clock features but was happy when I got my Stream back as I found I couldn't speed up the built in TTS voice without it sounding choppy, it didn't support as many file formats and I found the lack of a keypad quite difficult at times.?

I have heard some people going for the Evo10 daisy player as a replacement or complimentary to the Stream, which I may be interested in.?

I have heard that Human ware are developing a new device, but it seems to be more geared towards GPS features rather than book reading.?

Please see video below from the Sight tech global conference YouTube channel:?

Claire?

On 17 Feb 2022, at 17:19, Rea Lists <reaslists@...> wrote:

?Some facts and user experiences are now beginning to filter through about the latest Wi-Fi equipped Milestone 312 Ace player and Wi-Fi radio.? Player and radio Radio and playing audio files and books are its prime features although it will do more with added colour identifier modules and one or two other things which I think are paid-for extras.? So here's what I have heard so far and some detailed questions to folow.


So far I have heard via Access-UK list of its more flexible file system without the need to place books and other audio files in specific places, although the VR Trek's insistance on doing this has never been a chaw for me.


Its smallness is a selling point being, we are told, little bigger than a credit card if a little thicker.? I will say that being able "to put it in a shirt pocket" has never held great apeal for me;? no doubt that's just a personal thing.


I do wish though that this latest Milestone had acquired a Podcast player but alas! it will be some time before that appears.? It is nice to have more than skeletel information on this Bones Player from Germany.


Now, I should no doubt try writing to Milestone on the Podcast player suggestion but more important to me at the moment is, Will this Milestone handle BBC High Quality internet streams?? I am hoping that Adrian who's on this list can try these out - which wil work only within the UK.









I wonder if these rather long and convoluted URLs are actually from a third party site, but I know there is at least one person here who might answer this, and even know of a convenient place where (all) BBC high quality radio feeds are listed.? I in fact got to the feeds above by looking at:




I looked at the answer for accessing BBC Radio Sheffield and then modified that for the other two stations above.


It could well be these feeds are used by Smart Speakers to access radio via BBC Sounds.? They address the annoyance I have not being able to access BBC local radio on the VR Trek using the lowwer quality 128 kbs streams,?? denied to us until Sunday due to the Winter Olympics.? Pretty The HQ streams will not get around accessing local sport due to rights issues.? Sure the Trek will not handle the HQ feeds.


Its looking like the Milestone may become the favoured internet radio and player for vI people in the UK.? the dealer selling it here has been misleading in implying the trek does not do Blue Tooth (and) Wi-Fi, which we all know isn't true.



so, any thoughts?? Anyone hearing of a Trek replacement


Ray.