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Hi Jay, ? i?m just testing with the Shelly Add-on board and an attached temperature and humidity sensor. The Add-On board is attached to a Shelly1. Sensors are recognized by the Shelly1 and working – temperate and humidity is reported on the Shelly?s web-interface. Now i?d like to integrate these values into my Crestron system. I?m using the latest v8 package of your Shelly modules. ? In the help for the “Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1” module, it says: “For the module to properly refect the feedback the following fields of the Shelly I/O URL Actions must be set: 1) Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor Values URL This field should be set as follows where Processor_IP and Processor_Port must match what is set in the Shelly Comm Manager module.? ? ” ? The problem is, that I don?t have a “Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor Values URL” setting under “Shelly I/O URL Actions”. I do have the described over and under events, but nothing for the actual readings for temp. and humid. ? Shelly firmware is the latest (updated today). ? Any idea? ? Cheers and a Happy New Year to all on the list! Thorsten ?
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Hi Thorsten,
First, the Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1 module is for the
Shelly Humidity-Temperature sensor.? I'm not sure that I ever
tested that with a sensor connected to a Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM.?
I'm trying to reproduce your setup to see if I can make it work.?
Unfortunately, the temperature sensor adapter I have for the
Shelly 1 and Shelly 1PM appears to have a problem.? As soon as I
plug it into a Shelly device it crashes it.?
When I view the built in web page for the Shelly
Humidity-Temperature Sensor there are 2 sections for URL actions.?
The first is Sensor URL actions.? This is where the entries for
over temp/under temp and over humidity/under humidity are
located.? However, there is also a section called actions.? Under
the actions section is where "Report Sensor Values" url action is
located that is needed to report temperature and humidity updates
to a Crestron processor.
If this isn't included with the Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM then I'm
sorry there isn't a way, without writing additional HTTP code to
poll those values, to make it work for you.?
The Shelly H&T Sensor is under $30 so that may be the easiest
path.
Hope this helps
Jay
On 12/31/2021 10:44 AM, Thorsten K?hler
wrote:
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Hi Jay,
?
i?m just testing with
the Shelly Add-on board and an attached temperature and
humidity sensor.
The Add-On board is
attached to a Shelly1.
Sensors are recognized
by the Shelly1 and working – temperate and humidity is
reported on the Shelly?s web-interface.
Now i?d like to
integrate these values into my Crestron system.
I?m using the latest v8
package of your Shelly modules.
?
In the help for the
“Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1” module, it says:
“For the module to properly refect the feedback
the following
fields of the Shelly I/O URL Actions must be
set:
1) Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor
Values URL
This field should be set as follows where
Processor_IP and
Processor_Port must match what is set in the
Shelly Comm Manager
module.?
?
”
?
The problem is, that I
don?t have a “Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor
Values URL” setting under “Shelly I/O URL Actions”.
I do have the described
over and under events, but nothing for the actual readings
for temp. and humid.
?
Shelly firmware is the
latest (updated today).
?
Any idea?
?
Cheers
and a Happy New Year to all on the list!
Thorsten
?
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Hi Jay, ? Happy New Year! ? Unfortunately, the Shelly 1 + Add-On combo doesn’t seem to support sensor reporting via URL. There?s no “Report Sensor Values" option. The Shelly H&T Sensor isn?t an option IMHO since I prefer to have invisible sensors with no maintenance. The H&T is another “thingy” standing around needing support from time to time replacing batteries (even if it?s just once a year). ? So I?ll approach Allterco and ask them if it?s possible to add the sensor reporting to the Add-On/1/1PM. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Hi Thorsten, First, the Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1 module is for the Shelly Humidity-Temperature sensor.? I'm not sure that I ever tested that with a sensor connected to a Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM.? I'm trying to reproduce your setup to see if I can make it work.? Unfortunately, the temperature sensor adapter I have for the Shelly 1 and Shelly 1PM appears to have a problem.? As soon as I plug it into a Shelly device it crashes it.? When I view the built in web page for the Shelly Humidity-Temperature Sensor there are 2 sections for URL actions.? The first is Sensor URL actions.? This is where the entries for over temp/under temp and over humidity/under humidity are located.? However, there is also a section called actions.? Under the actions section is where "Report Sensor Values" url action is located that is needed to report temperature and humidity updates to a Crestron processor. If this isn't included with the Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM then I'm sorry there isn't a way, without writing additional HTTP code to poll those values, to make it work for you.? The Shelly H&T Sensor is under $30 so that may be the easiest path. Hope this helps Jay ?
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On 12/31/2021 10:44 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote: Hi Jay, ? i?m just testing with the Shelly Add-on board and an attached temperature and humidity sensor. The Add-On board is attached to a Shelly1. Sensors are recognized by the Shelly1 and working – temperate and humidity is reported on the Shelly?s web-interface. Now i?d like to integrate these values into my Crestron system. I?m using the latest v8 package of your Shelly modules. ? In the help for the “Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1” module, it says: “For the module to properly refect the feedback the following fields of the Shelly I/O URL Actions must be set: 1) Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor Values URL This field should be set as follows where Processor_IP and Processor_Port must match what is set in the Shelly Comm Manager module.? ? ” ? The problem is, that I don?t have a “Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor Values URL” setting under “Shelly I/O URL Actions”. I do have the described over and under events, but nothing for the actual readings for temp. and humid. ? Shelly firmware is the latest (updated today). ? Any idea? ? Cheers and a Happy New Year to all on the list! Thorsten ?
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Hi Thorsten,
Happy new year!
Sounds good.?? But, just so you know, I believe there is a
plug-in option for the H&T Sensor so you don't have to replace
the batteries.? It wouldn't be as hidden as the sensor for the
Shelly 1/1PM but it would be maintenance free.
Hope this helps
Jay
On 1/1/2022 2:32 AM, Thorsten K?hler
wrote:
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Hi Jay,
?
Happy New Year!
?
Unfortunately, the
Shelly 1 + Add-On combo doesn’t seem to support sensor
reporting via URL.
There?s no “Report Sensor Values"
option.
The Shelly H&T
Sensor isn?t an option IMHO since I prefer to have invisible
sensors with no maintenance.
The H&T is another
“thingy” standing around needing support from time to time
replacing batteries (even if it?s just once a year).
?
So I?ll approach
Allterco and ask them if it?s possible to add the sensor
reporting to the Add-On/1/1PM.
?
Cheers,
Thorsten
?
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Hi Thorsten,
First, the Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1 module is for the
Shelly Humidity-Temperature sensor.? I'm not sure that I ever
tested that with a sensor connected to a Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM.?
I'm trying to reproduce your setup to see if I can make it
work.? Unfortunately, the temperature sensor adapter I have
for the Shelly 1 and Shelly 1PM appears to have a problem.? As
soon as I plug it into a Shelly device it crashes it.?
When I view the built in web page for the Shelly
Humidity-Temperature Sensor there are 2 sections for URL
actions.? The first is Sensor URL actions.? This is where the
entries for over temp/under temp and over humidity/under
humidity are located.? However, there is also a section called
actions.? Under the actions section is where "Report Sensor
Values" url action is located that is needed to report
temperature and humidity updates to a Crestron processor.
If this isn't included with the Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM then I'm
sorry there isn't a way, without writing additional HTTP code
to poll those values, to make it work for you.?
The Shelly H&T Sensor is under $30 so that may be the
easiest path.
Hope this helps
Jay
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On 12/31/2021 10:44 AM, Thorsten K?hler
wrote:
Hi Jay,
?
i?m just testing with
the Shelly Add-on board and an attached temperature and
humidity sensor.
The Add-On board is
attached to a Shelly1.
Sensors are recognized
by the Shelly1 and working – temperate and humidity is
reported on the Shelly?s web-interface.
Now i?d like to
integrate these values into my Crestron system.
I?m using the latest
v8 package of your Shelly modules.
?
In the help for the
“Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1” module, it says:
“For the module to properly refect the
feedback the following
fields of the Shelly I/O URL Actions must be
set:
1) Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor
Values URL
This field should be set as follows where
Processor_IP and
Processor_Port must match what is set in the
Shelly Comm Manager
module.?
?
”
?
The problem is, that I
don?t have a “Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor
Values URL” setting under “Shelly I/O URL Actions”.
I do have the
described over and under events, but nothing for the
actual readings for temp. and humid.
?
Shelly firmware is the
latest (updated today).
?
Any idea?
?
Cheers
and a Happy New Year to all on the list!
Thorsten
?
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Thanks, Jay. Then you have a cabled device sitting somewhere on a shelf. These “balls” are fine for temporary use to just get some quick readings, but nothing for a permanent install. That?s all IMHO of course. ? I just filed a feature request with Shelly to add the missing functionality. ? ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Hi Thorsten, Happy new year! Sounds good.?? But, just so you know, I believe there is a plug-in option for the H&T Sensor so you don't have to replace the batteries.? It wouldn't be as hidden as the sensor for the Shelly 1/1PM but it would be maintenance free. Hope this helps Jay
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On 1/1/2022 2:32 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote: Hi Jay, ? Happy New Year! ? Unfortunately, the Shelly 1 + Add-On combo doesn’t seem to support sensor reporting via URL. There?s no “Report Sensor Values" option. The Shelly H&T Sensor isn?t an option IMHO since I prefer to have invisible sensors with no maintenance. The H&T is another “thingy” standing around needing support from time to time replacing batteries (even if it?s just once a year). ? So I?ll approach Allterco and ask them if it?s possible to add the sensor reporting to the Add-On/1/1PM. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Hi Thorsten, First, the Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1 module is for the Shelly Humidity-Temperature sensor.? I'm not sure that I ever tested that with a sensor connected to a Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM.? I'm trying to reproduce your setup to see if I can make it work.? Unfortunately, the temperature sensor adapter I have for the Shelly 1 and Shelly 1PM appears to have a problem.? As soon as I plug it into a Shelly device it crashes it.? When I view the built in web page for the Shelly Humidity-Temperature Sensor there are 2 sections for URL actions.? The first is Sensor URL actions.? This is where the entries for over temp/under temp and over humidity/under humidity are located.? However, there is also a section called actions.? Under the actions section is where "Report Sensor Values" url action is located that is needed to report temperature and humidity updates to a Crestron processor. If this isn't included with the Shelly 1/Shelly 1PM then I'm sorry there isn't a way, without writing additional HTTP code to poll those values, to make it work for you.? The Shelly H&T Sensor is under $30 so that may be the easiest path. Hope this helps Jay ? On 12/31/2021 10:44 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote: Hi Jay, ? i?m just testing with the Shelly Add-on board and an attached temperature and humidity sensor. The Add-On board is attached to a Shelly1. Sensors are recognized by the Shelly1 and working – temperate and humidity is reported on the Shelly?s web-interface. Now i?d like to integrate these values into my Crestron system. I?m using the latest v8 package of your Shelly modules. ? In the help for the “Humidity-Temperature Sensor v1” module, it says: “For the module to properly refect the feedback the following fields of the Shelly I/O URL Actions must be set: 1) Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor Values URL This field should be set as follows where Processor_IP and Processor_Port must match what is set in the Shelly Comm Manager module.? ? ” ? The problem is, that I don?t have a “Humidity-Temperature Sensor Report Sensor Values URL” setting under “Shelly I/O URL Actions”. I do have the described over and under events, but nothing for the actual readings for temp. and humid. ? Shelly firmware is the latest (updated today). ? Any idea? ? Cheers and a Happy New Year to all on the list! Thorsten ?
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Hi Jay,
im using H&T sensor only as a temp probe but i have 2 questions:
1 - i see on console temp have one decimal, it is possible to have out module also?
2 - maybe my mistake somewhere, H&T push me info but i would have expected every celsius degree change but is not so. Now a'm thinking powering H&T every time i need temp feedback using power like polling, any advise?
many thaks in advanced
antonio
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Hi Antonio,
Sorry for the slow reply.
First, I posted all the source code for the Shelly modules,
including the S# code, on my GitHub for exactly this reason.?
There is nothing stopping anyone from tweaking these modules to,
for example, parse the temperature and humidity values in a
different way to obtain the full value instead of just the whole
number value of the readings.? I'd have to setup a H&T sensor
to test with this to be 100% sure but looking at the code it
appears that I'm sending back the full value from the S# code to
the S+ code and then just do an atoi for parsing.? I think you
could just replace the atoi call with some more sophisticated
parsing in S+ to accomplish what you want.? The other alternative
would be to parse the values in S#, multiply the result by 10, and
pass them back as shorts instead of strings to s+.? This is
essentially how Crestron thermostats report values in 10ths of
degrees.
I have to make some updates to the Shelly modules for some new
hardware that Shelly is releasing so I may be able to do something
in the next couple of weeks.
Your question about polling the H&T sensor is one you would
have to ask Shelly.? I expect they are trying to maximize the
battery life of the sensor so that is probably why it doesn't give
temperature updates as often as you would like.? I'm not aware of
how you could force an update but Shelly tech support may be able
to help you out with that question.
Thanks
Jay
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Hi Jay,
im using H&T sensor only as a temp probe but i have 2
questions:
1 - i see on console temp have one decimal, it is possible to
have out module also?
2 - maybe my mistake somewhere, H&T push me info but i would
have expected every celsius degree change but is not so. Now a'm
thinking powering H&T every time i need temp feedback using
power like polling, any advise?
many thaks in advanced
antonio
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Thanks for reply Jay,
everything is as I imagined it.?
About polling I was hoping I was wrong ... :-).
unfortunately i'm not a so good s# programmer,?
i'll try to modify your code to have decimal degrees, hoping to not destroy completely module ;-)
Thanks again
Antonio?
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Hi Antonio,
I've just started adding support for a couple of new pieces of
Shelly hardware to the code.? Since I'm modifying the code myself
right now I'll see if I can add support for tenths of degrees.? It
may take a little while so if you run into problems my changes can
be your fallback.
Thanks
Jay
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Thanks for reply Jay,
everything is as I imagined it.?
About polling I was hoping I was wrong ... :-).
unfortunately i'm not a so good s# programmer,?
i'll try to modify your code to have decimal degrees, hoping to
not destroy completely module ;-)
Thanks again
Antonio?
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