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Re: Extron DMP 128 crestron module
Hi?Sudhakar,
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Will download DataViewer. Many Thanks. Regards, Rogelio On Friday, February 19, 2021, 8:44 PM, Sudhakar Udhayan <sudhakar.udhayan@...> wrote:
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Re: Issue with Simpl# in Visual Studio 2008
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn Feb 19, 2021, at 12:30, Logan <scott.stetzko@...> wrote:
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Re: Extron DMP 128 crestron module
Hi?Crestronfreak55,
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Noted.?Thank you. - Verbose mode 3 needs to be enabled - Before controlling the volume, the value needs to be polled once BTW: When controlling a stereo input, I suggest to use a group. Configure the group(s) in the DSP Configurator. By doing so you can make sure that left and right channel always have the same level. Regards, Rogelio On Friday, February 19, 2021, 12:53 AM, crestronfreak55 via groups.io <crestronfreak55@...> wrote:
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Issue with Simpl# in Visual Studio 2008
#simplsharp
I am having an issue with Visual Studio 2008 where everytime I try and open my Simpl# project file, I get the following error.
Access to the path 'c:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\Common7\IDE\ProjectTemplatesCache\CSharp\Crestron\SIMPLSharpLibrary.zip\Cass1.cs' is denied. Does anyone know how to fix this issue or what exactly is causing this? |
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Re: Extron DMP 128 crestron module
Dear Rogelio, Do you have DataViewer software of extron with you? if not kindly download the Dataviewer software from extron website. once you installed the dataviewer setup there you can mention the required module and you will get the right command code for controlling the module. Regards, Sudhakar udhayan Regards, V.Sudhakar udhayan On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 3:22 PM rogeliolobrio via <rogeliolobrio=[email protected]> wrote: Hi Crestronfreak55, |
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Re: Crestron wireless for residential
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI¡¯m not sure I buy (at least in the US/FCC realm) that wifi is more prone to interference than other standards -- plenty of technologies in the commercial world rely on wifi -- and InfinetEX and 2.4G wifi have a nearly 100% frequency overlap. ? Spectrum management and surveillance, of course, an important step, but if something is stomping on wifi the chances of other things making it out unscathed are not much better. ? If you¡¯re just throwing random 2.4G devices in the same physical space with no coordination, of course, you¡¯re practically begging for problems ¨C which is sadly the state of many consumer IoT ideas. Or implementing single band WiFi as well ¨C the irritation of the fact that my refrigerator only does 2.4 is only offset by the fact that the pet feeder also only does 2.4. ? Now, of course, TCP, etc. over WiFi have much higher overheads than something like InfinetEX ¨C the double-edged sword of greater error checking and recovery and high traffic for something simple like a button press. ? But I still strongly prefer wired when wired is possible so¡ J ? ? (And for anyone who¡¯s even slightly curious¡ despite having a 30 gigabit trunk between my wireless LAN controller and the core switch [mainly ¡°because I can, darn it¡±] peak wireless traffic this week was a <5 minute burst of about 18mb with a wifi traffic noise floor is ~200-300k symmetrical¡ this is with IoT stuff, a bunch of TPMC-8X-Gas , a few laptops, phone/iPad, etc.]) ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 4:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] Crestron wireless for residential ? Hi Jay, ? i did some testing yesterday (incl. your Crestron modules) and i?m pretty impressed. I?d prefer to have them in client mode rather than in AP mode by default since it adds an extra step to the configuration, but overall it seems to be a very nice little device. However, i?m still a bit skeptical about using wifi because it?s more prone to interference compared to other ¡°traditional¡± wireless home automation standards. So what?s your experience on that? ? Next week, i?ll integrate one Shelly at my friend?s house for testing to get some real world experience myself. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Im Auftrag von jbasen ? Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver modules for you.
Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
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Re: Crestron wireless for residential
Hi Thorsten, My own experience is that WiFi works fine until you get into very dense housing situations. Then you can run into some interference issues. ? Writing articles and testing products I¡¯m amazed at how the number of IoT products in my home has grown. Over a dozen Alexa devices, Shelly products, laptops, smartphones/tablets, and the list goes on.? In my own home I don¡¯t notice any issues.? I am using a firewalla to better monitor what is going on with everything.? Most of the keypads I personally use a Crestron CLX-EX light switches.? I outfit most with 4 buttons and utilize those buttons for lots of different functions around the house besides controlling lighting. The integration of Alexa voice commands has also minimized ten news for dedicated keypads.? That being said, if you want to stay in the Shelly world you can use a Shelly i3 and add your own switches to it.? If you want a broader array of options then, as zac.sparrow suggested, add a Hubitat Hub and that will give you lots of options to choose from.? I¡¯m using some from Aeotec and they work very well. I hope this helps Jay On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:58 AM Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron Home Driver Using the Driver SDK
Thanks Dan! I will definitely checkout both of those? I didn¡¯t see a whole lot of comments in Crestron¡¯s samples either so I¡¯m hoping the relay driver at least offers a simple enough example to make it easier to understand the overall structure? Thanks again Jay On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 11:04 PM <dberlin@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron Home Driver Using the Driver SDK
I would strongly agree with this.
I've watched plenty of companies end up in this sort of situation. The biggest challengeis often, as you say, the mindset. APIs, like the drivers here, are almost always a tradeoff in where complexity is exposed and who bears the burden of handling it. That, you can make the API simple to get right and the backend hard to get right, or the backend simple to get right and the API hard to get right. (It's rare you can make both true) Lots of times i would see the driver/etc APIs go from nothing to becoming one of the main user interfaces for developers. But the engineers/etc would still focus on making the backend easy and be okay with making the APIs hard. This almost always resulted in failure - the cases where it didn't is where the market share was so tremendous that nobody had a choice. The companies that succeeded were eventually able to shift to making the APIs much easier, and eating the backend complexity. This is a hard mindset shift to achieve - it requires getting people to be very empathetic to people they've often never really had to think of too much. Crestron is definitely not there yet. --Dan |
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Re: Crestron wireless for residential
If you are skeptical about wifi and interference, the only other solution will be Zwave with a hub. Look into Hubitat. I know it's frequency varies by region so you have to see what is available for yours.
I use it at home and once setup properly it works well. But it does require some setup and planning so there is a learnig curve and if you need support - you are mostly on your own/online communities. Edit: if you are dealing with large home, Zwave is probably not the right solution due to its distance limitations and limites mesh hops. |
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Re: Crestron wireless for residential
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOh, and bonus question: What?s the preferred solution for wireless push-buttons? ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> ? Hi Jay, ? i did some testing yesterday (incl. your Crestron modules) and i?m pretty impressed. I?d prefer to have them in client mode rather than in AP mode by default since it adds an extra step to the configuration, but overall it seems to be a very nice little device. However, i?m still a bit skeptical about using wifi because it?s more prone to interference compared to other ¡°traditional¡± wireless home automation standards. So what?s your experience on that? ? Next week, i?ll integrate one Shelly at my friend?s house for testing to get some real world experience myself. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von jbasen ? Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver modules for you. Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
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Re: Crestron wireless for residential
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Jay, ? i did some testing yesterday (incl. your Crestron modules) and i?m pretty impressed. I?d prefer to have them in client mode rather than in AP mode by default since it adds an extra step to the configuration, but overall it seems to be a very nice little device. However, i?m still a bit skeptical about using wifi because it?s more prone to interference compared to other ¡°traditional¡± wireless home automation standards. So what?s your experience on that? ? Next week, i?ll integrate one Shelly at my friend?s house for testing to get some real world experience myself. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von jbasen ? Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver modules for you. Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
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Re: Crestron Home Driver Using the Driver SDK
There's also the element of competition (or rather, competitive dis-advantage).? Control 4, and others (Savant, Elan, etc. to a lesser extent), -??whatever you think about those products - have a good following with integrators.
Crestron like to pull up the pyramid drawing at this point.? For commercial, that's high end bespoke board rooms at the pointy end, and gazillions of huddle spaces at the fat bottom.? For resi, we only really had the smaller pointy end, and Crestron want the fatter bottom space that Control 4 and others occupy. I have no problem with the theory there - but to compete at the fat bottom takes a different mindset/approach which I'm not sure has been achieved yet. Crestron Home (which, for the avoidance of doubt, *IS* Pyng, with a new skin) needs to cover a huge breadth of compatible products to be viable against those other guys, and Crestron don't have the bandwidth to do it all in-house.? Manufacturers don't (whatever people might claim) have the Crestron-specific skills to create drivers themselves.? That leaves people like CSPs or integrators with programming talent (and with S# skills) to mop up the shortfall.? Trying to reducing the friction here is probably what takes up 75% of my time with CCD at the moment. |
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Re: Crestron Home Driver Using the Driver SDK
Oh boy. I have just literally been going through this the past few days to write a custom Crestron Home driver.?? The other extension retrieves the weather from the web, and may be a simpler example for your purposes: |
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Re: Crestron Home Driver Using the Driver SDK
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýUI is also a big part of it.? Even if the programming works well
and the system supports all the wiz-bang ideas the customer came
up with making a decent UI takes a special talent that very few
programmers have.? On 2/18/2021 5:29 PM,
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Thanks guys. The other reason I was (and still am) is because I generally pick either the cheapest or the most expensive option.? Home is a middle ground but it seems to me if someone would spend the $ for Home, why not go all the way in.? |
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Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?
If you assign signals to all the user attribute feedbacks then you¡¯ll see in debugger the descriptions of each populate when you first load the driver. That¡¯s how you know what goes where.
Same for the media services. As long as you¡¯ve assigned the signals, you¡¯ll see which is for YouTube, Netflix, etc. |
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Re: Crestron Home Driver Using the Driver SDK
Thanks guys. The other reason I was (and still am) is because I generally pick either the cheapest or the most expensive option.? Home is a middle ground but it seems to me if someone would spend the $ for Home, why not go all the way in.?
The part about dealers struggling with programming does makes sense though. Didn't think of it this way.? |
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Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?
Finally some progress.... once I swapped the assignments for MAC address and Pass Code in the User Attributes it started working. So in case s.o. runs into the same problem:
I now have control and somewhat feedback: feedback on power state and inputs seems to work well, but volume feedback is kind of useless. For some reason the volume feedback state (it should be a percentage value) keeps reverting back to an earlier value, even though the TB has clearly changed its volume - audible, as well as per display. I am not sure how to resolve this. I have seen similar 'signal garbage' with volume feedback via RS232.? On a more general note, shouldn't there some kind of documentation for this?? How can one guess what goes where? I did not see anything in the .dat file, which is the closest I have found thus far as documentation. How would I be able to figure out how to launch the build in apps, e.g. YouTube or Netflix that are seemingly supported per .dat file??? |