Re: Best way to update a bunch of EX Dimmers??
Wow on this... this tread is just what I¡¯m going thru. I have a system with about 60 devices and I¡¯m experiencing the issues you describe with your system. 3 space buttons are a hit or miss. I was even thinking of leaving them in the program as three separate
buttons and program the same to all three.
But you are right, the amount of time that I¡¯m spending setting up an program all of these devices is certainly not what I expected and for sure not what I billed the client for.
Leonardo E. Lenis
Leo's Net, Inc.
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On Feb 23, 2021, at 8:10 PM, rjglaeser@... wrote:
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I deployed an 80 device Horizon Dimmer / Keypad EX network in July 2020
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It was one of the most miserable jobs Ive done in 20 yrs.Beautiful Penthouse on the Bay. There is no way you can estimate the time required, I'd say 10 days to program. Program shouldn't be the word, bumble through every button on every keypad with mixed results
every time is probably more accurate. Eventually it worked... mostly.? Getting one (3 button space) button to program properly is still a cluster %*&#! They never seem to actually work. Program Space 1 and Space 3 as a clone is OK if you hit the top or bottom
of the button, Setting (use center LED) on the button helps but if pressed in the center like its a single button is hit or miss.... Setting button colors was beyond difficult and very limited. (Two colors per dimmer / keypad at one time) And cant be set programmatically.
That means day, night, on,and off is about it for colors... crazy!)
If you could actually accurately estimate the time required to setup and program; no one would have enough money to pay for it and you'd never sell another Horizon EX project. The Cresnet is better but only because the aggravation of working with the InfinEX
Diagnostic Tool and having to reload its database EVERYTIME you make a change is eliminated.
Crestron should be ashamed of themselves.
This is a beautiful keypad/dimmer with so many software flaws its essentially junk. I also deployed a wired 75ish device Horizon Keypad and Panel system in December 2019. Again a poorly supported system as a whole. Bug riddled, under documented, under performing
all ring true. I guess the saying is true. "You can get better product but you can't pay more!"
It still makes my blood boil to think of the countless wasted hours I'll never get back. <<END RANT
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Re: Best way to update a bunch of EX Dimmers??
I deployed an 80 device Horizon Dimmer / Keypad EX network in July 2020
>>BEGIN RANT
It was one of the most miserable jobs Ive done in 20 yrs.Beautiful Penthouse on the Bay. There is no way you can estimate the time required, I'd say 10 days to program. Program shouldn't be the word, bumble through every button on every keypad with mixed results every time is probably more accurate. Eventually it worked... mostly.? Getting one (3 button space) button to program properly is still a cluster %*&#! They never seem to actually work. Program Space 1 and Space 3 as a clone is OK if you hit the top or bottom of the button, Setting (use center LED) on the button helps but if pressed in the center like its a single button is hit or miss.... Setting button colors was beyond difficult and very limited. (Two colors per dimmer / keypad at one time) And cant be set programmatically. That means day, night, on,and off is about it for colors... crazy!)
If you could actually accurately estimate the time required to setup and program; no one would have enough money to pay for it and you'd never sell another Horizon EX project. The Cresnet is better but only because the aggravation of working with the InfinEX Diagnostic Tool and having to reload its database EVERYTIME you make a change is eliminated.
Crestron should be ashamed of themselves.
This is a beautiful keypad/dimmer with so many software flaws its essentially junk. I also deployed a wired 75ish device Horizon Keypad and Panel system in December 2019. Again a poorly supported system as a whole. Bug riddled, under documented, under performing all ring true. I guess the saying is true. "You can get better product but you can't pay more!"
It still makes my blood boil to think of the countless wasted hours I'll never get back. <<END RANT
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Hi Nathan,
If you look at the example program from Crestron for Q-Sys you'll see they use individual button modules for each number and action.? It's really a good way to do it (slightly more tedious the first time, but more flexible) you just want to build your named controls in Designer so they're easily F9-able in Simpl (set the name of the block in designer and don't touch each control you drag over) and you can build the whole VoIP control pretty quickly.
Good luck,
Micah
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Re: Samsung Ambient Mode Serial
Ambient Mode On = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x10\x01\xAF
Ambient Mode Off = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x10\x00\xB0
Art Mode On = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x0E\x01\xB1
Art Mode Off = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x0E\x00\xB2
I don't know why Samsung has two different names, and two different commands, for what appears to be the same feature :-)
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--- On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:55 PM, TRoberts wrote:
Hey All,
Just wondering if anyone has the command for Ambient mode (discrete if
available) for a Samsung TV. I have a xls doc that has a bunch of serial
commands, but the doc is a few years old and does not have the command for
ambient. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Best way to update a bunch of EX Dimmers??
Hey Trey,
We should chat about this soon!
Ping me at:
chris at eicustom dot com and I'll send you my cell#...
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Re: Anyone willing to write a Mr. cool Module?
I'm a bit late to respond back on this thread, but DannyB had eloquently summarized a lot of what my initial thoughts were. This should be relatively easy to do, it just depends on having access to the endpoint to test code with, and budget I'd say. With websockets, there's also an increasing number of Crestron dealers and CSP's who have invested their time into developing such infrastructure and code bases. This is especially true, now that HTML5 and Javascript have essentially become part of the overall Crestron ecosystem moving forward. If I was developing this, device access would be paramount (at least for initial testing, and to ensure reliability, but also to speed up the development time). Budget would be a factor too since things are reasonably busy for me for at least the next couple of weeks; I'd likely need to allocate some time on weekends to complete this if there's a sense of urgency here. In that case, if there's anyone else who has a bit more free time and would like to develop this, I'd be happy to let them have it if cost is a concern. I try to limit the number of projects that I take on in order to maintain appropriate output in terms of quality. Cheers! --
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Crestron Service Provider - TBD Enterprises Inc.
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Samsung Ambient Mode Serial
Hey All,
? Just wondering if anyone has the command for Ambient mode (discrete if available) for a Samsung TV. I have a xls doc that has a bunch of serial commands, but the doc is a few years old and does not have the command for ambient. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Best way to update a bunch of EX Dimmers??
CK - ? Please report this to TB and use # 201012-000858. ?I started this with them in October of 2020 when the strange issues started happening with their combinations of trying to quickly fix all the Flash dependencies.? As you know from my Horizon lighting project (that I still cannot update all the switches to the current firmware, even when done as you are experiencing 1 at a time) troubles.? The D3Pro program, RMC3 firmware, & the various databases bricked the SD card.? I have not sold lighting since this¡I am currently trying to get them to fix HZ-KPEX keypad backlighting that does not show after the current combination broke that as well.? Mind you, I installed these switches and programmed this originally in March-May 2020. ? They do not want to address it and are acting like it is not effecting anyone else! ? Thanks, Trey ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of ckangis Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 9:25 AM To: [email protected]Subject: [crestron] Best way to update a bunch of EX Dimmers?? ? Hi All,
I have to update ~120 Horizon EX dimmers and have had Crestron suggest two ways - Auto Update Tool OR Downgrade to Toolbox v3.3.424 (which I reluctantly just upgraded from...:( )
I just looked at the Auto Update tool and it looks kind of klunky. My orientation is to downgrade to 3.3.424 and use NetDevTree/Update all like I have in the past.
What are others' recommendations in this regard???
TIA!!
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Best way to update a bunch of EX Dimmers??
Hi All,
I have to update ~120 Horizon EX dimmers and have had Crestron suggest two ways - Auto Update Tool OR Downgrade to Toolbox v3.3.424 (which I reluctantly just upgraded from...:( )
I just looked at the Auto Update tool and it looks kind of klunky. My orientation is to downgrade to 3.3.424 and use NetDevTree/Update all like I have in the past.
What are others' recommendations in this regard???
TIA!!
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Re: Sonos firmware update for the MC3
Check out smtp2go.com for email needs. Its what i've switched to since others keep breaking. This is just a simple implementation that should be fine for what most of us do.
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Re: Sonos firmware update for the MC3
Yes that may be.? But that is no longer an issue for me.? I set up a cloud service that my Crestron processors use and then that cloud service emails me what they wanted to say.
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Re: Sonos firmware update for the MC3
How about?SendMailSharp? ?That still borken?
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On Feb 23, 2021, at 10:00 AM, Steve Kuehn < steve@...> wrote:
Well guys, your prayers have been answered.? Crestron has come up with a firmware update for the MC3 specifically for Sonos.
Thank you Crestron.
Steve
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Sonos firmware update for the MC3
Well guys, your prayers have been answered.? Crestron has come up with a firmware update for the MC3 specifically for Sonos.
Thank you Crestron.
Steve
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Re: Serial Memory on Program reset or Processor Reboot
Thank you very much to both of you....I'll try two options and see If I can get this to work
Much Appreciated
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Re: Serial Memory on Program reset or Processor Reboot
IMO, best practice would be to save/recall the values to/from a file on your processor, either through Simpl+ or Simpl#. If that's not practical for you to code at the moment, there is an existing "Write and Read variables from file" module that may be useful.
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Re: Serial Memory on Program reset or Processor Reboot
There are a few but non particularly elegant.
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Easiest would be a S+ with however many serial inputs/outputs and the same number of NONVOLTATILE STRING globals. Note that this has the same volatility and position-sensitivity
as any other symbol that uses NVRAM, so more elegant but less efficient would be to write settings out to a file ¨C it depends largely on how important the data is and how sad you/the client would be if it got lost.
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Also the below pseudo code was (a) written before I¡¯ve had any caffeine this morning and hasn¡¯t been compiled let alone tested, (b) assumes the same signal name
is on both the in$ and out$, (c) expects recall to be pulsed during the processor boot sequence to¡recall values (this could potentially be done in FUNCTION MAIN()), ?and (c) isn¡¯t the best way, on its own, to handle cases where the serial value changes rapidly,
for example directly connected to an output from a touchscreen keyboard. (use a MSP/ABUF combination to store the final string on enter, for example)
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#DEFINE_CONSTANT maxSignals 10
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DIGITAL_INPUT recall;
STRING_INPUT in$[maxSignals][100];
STRING_OUTPUT out$[maxSignals];
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NONVOLATILE STRING store$[maxSignals][100];?
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CHANGE in$ {
???? INTEGER index;
???? index = GETLASTMODIFIEDARRAYINDEX();
???? store$[index] = in$[index];
}
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PUSH recall {
???? INTEGER i;
???? FOR (i=1 TO maxSignals) {
?????????? out$[i] = store$[i];
???? }
}
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Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Diamond)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Audvizer
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 7:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] Serial Memory on Program reset or Processor Reboot
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Hi All,
I've recently been working on something that would be more efficient for myself when creating graphics for different clients.?
Mainly, renaming of souces or changing an icon via a tech page on my graphics.?
I've gotten all this to work through a hidden tech page I've created where I have the source serial names editable and feedback to the main page. However, when I reboot the processor or upload any change the program, I lose the names and have to edit them in
again on the tech page. Any idea how I could make the source name on the main page permananet but editable from a tech page?
Hope all this makes sense...
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TSR 302 and Crestron Home
Hi
Is Crestron home integratable with a TSR 302.?
If there are any experiences please do share ?
Thanks
Rajiv? -- Rajiv Jain
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Re: Anyone willing to write a Mr. cool Module?
(In case anyone tries this).
For sure, you need the old client.? I poked at the endpoint and what it's running is compatible with the old client but not the new.
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Serial Memory on Program reset or Processor Reboot
Hi All,
I've recently been working on something that would be more efficient for myself when creating graphics for different clients.?
Mainly, renaming of souces or changing an icon via a tech page on my graphics.?
I've gotten all this to work through a hidden tech page I've created where I have the source serial names editable and feedback to the main page. However, when I reboot the processor or upload any change the program, I lose the names and have to edit them in again on the tech page. Any idea how I could make the source name on the main page permananet but editable from a tech page?
Hope all this makes sense...
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Re: Copy Kaleidescape GUI
Note to myself: Converting the Kaleidescape project to a SG-project seems to do the trick¡ ? ? ? Hi, i?m currently working on a project including a Kaleidescape system. I?d like to import the standard Kaleidescape GUI pages provided by Kaleidescape into my project, but with no luck. I?m trying to just drag & drop the whole subpages from the Kaleidescape example GUI to my project in VTPro, but that doesn¡¯t work. The mouse pointer shows the ¡°+¡± when moving into my project, but when I release the mouse button, nothing happens. ? It?s not even possible to copy and paste single buttons from the example GUI into my project. ? Am I missing something here?.... ? Cheers, Thorsten
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Troy Garner
Trey Chamrad - Texas AVI