CEN-NVS100 cameras to ipad/iphone over from remote?
Hi all,
I am on a project that has a CEN-NVS100 that works perfectly from inside the house. Now they asked to add a DYNDNS and want to see the cameras from outside the house.
The old Dynamic graphocs string looked like this:
I changed it to the DYNDNS like so (with the x's replaced with the actual dns info)
XXXX.homedns.org:4300/cgi-bin/viewer/video.jpg
And I changed the HTTP port of the CEN-NVS100 to 4300 from 80. I also port forwarded the 4300-4301 from the 192.168.10.85. but it doesnt work. It just crashes mobile pro and says "invalid host or port"
Any idea what Im doing worng to view the cameras remotely or is it not possible?
Thanks
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Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
I just figured you guys would be doing this kind of thing all the time and I just didn't know the right products/manufacturer to use.
All i need is:
- 2 HD cameras, monitored & controlled & switched by LAN in office
- HD SDI output for Capture-HD
- Composite for touch panel preview
Maybe there is some sort of magic production switcher scaler that will enable this workflow, I'll hit the google.
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--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@...> wrote:
Well, you're not asking for much... :)
--- In Crestron@..., "jbudz1977" <jbudz1977@> wrote:
I'm sure it's a sweet camera, but price is high and it doesn't have Ethernet streaming or simultaneous HD/SD outputs.
I just don't think there is a perfect camera for this app (especially when trying to bid low) yet, if there was, Crestron wouldne touting it as part of their solution.
--- In Crestron@..., "lincster2010" <lincster2010@> wrote:
+1 for the Sony BRC-H700
--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:
One of my clients has been using the Sony BRC-H700 with HFBK-HD1 card for cameras and the Panasonic AV-HS450N for switching.
Both work very well.
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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jbudz1977
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:18 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
So... no recommendations for HD PTZ cameras for Capture HD? Not easy to find the right one, and now the customer wants 2 cameras and the ability to switch between them. I wish Capture-HD-Pro had a HDMI in for camera in addition to HD-SDI...
I guess that is why Crestron is pitching a SD sony camera for the application...
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Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
I thought the BRC-H700 had a onboard composite output but looking at it again I guess I was mistaken.
HD-SDI and "bid low" don't generally go together (if price-over-quality, why not use any of the number of composite-output cameras and the HD-CAPTURE instead of the HD-CAPTURE-PRO?).
If price wasn't a (big) concern your best bet would probably be to use a camera (such as the BRC-H700) and a scaler or scan converter to derive your composite output and streaming from the HD-SDI output.
HD-SDI + Composite + Streaming seems like it's asking one camera to serve different masters in different market segments and if such a creature existed I kind of doubt it would do any of them well.
Lincoln
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-----Original Message----- From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jbudz1977 Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 4:46 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro I'm sure it's a sweet camera, but price is high and it doesn't have Ethernet streaming or simultaneous HD/SD outputs. I just don't think there is a perfect camera for this app (especially when trying to bid low) yet, if there was, Crestron wouldne touting it as part of their solution. --- In Crestron@..., "lincster2010" <lincster2010@...> wrote:
+1 for the Sony BRC-H700
--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:
One of my clients has been using the Sony BRC-H700 with HFBK-HD1 card for cameras and the Panasonic AV-HS450N for switching.
Both work very well.
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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jbudz1977
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:18 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
So... no recommendations for HD PTZ cameras for Capture HD? Not easy to find the right one, and now the customer wants 2 cameras and the ability to switch between them. I wish Capture-HD-Pro had a HDMI in for camera in addition to HD-SDI...
I guess that is why Crestron is pitching a SD sony camera for the application...
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Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
Well, you're not asking for much... :)
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--- In Crestron@..., "jbudz1977" <jbudz1977@...> wrote:
I'm sure it's a sweet camera, but price is high and it doesn't have Ethernet streaming or simultaneous HD/SD outputs.
I just don't think there is a perfect camera for this app (especially when trying to bid low) yet, if there was, Crestron wouldne touting it as part of their solution.
--- In Crestron@..., "lincster2010" <lincster2010@> wrote:
+1 for the Sony BRC-H700
--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:
One of my clients has been using the Sony BRC-H700 with HFBK-HD1 card for cameras and the Panasonic AV-HS450N for switching.
Both work very well.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jbudz1977
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:18 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
So... no recommendations for HD PTZ cameras for Capture HD? Not easy to find the right one, and now the customer wants 2 cameras and the ability to switch between them. I wish Capture-HD-Pro had a HDMI in for camera in addition to HD-SDI...
I guess that is why Crestron is pitching a SD sony camera for the application...
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Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
I'm sure it's a sweet camera, but price is high and it doesn't have Ethernet streaming or simultaneous HD/SD outputs.
I just don't think there is a perfect camera for this app (especially when trying to bid low) yet, if there was, Crestron wouldne touting it as part of their solution.
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--- In Crestron@..., "lincster2010" <lincster2010@...> wrote:
+1 for the Sony BRC-H700
--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:
One of my clients has been using the Sony BRC-H700 with HFBK-HD1 card for cameras and the Panasonic AV-HS450N for switching.
Both work very well.
--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jbudz1977
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:18 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: HD Camera for Capture-HD-Pro
So... no recommendations for HD PTZ cameras for Capture HD? Not easy to find the right one, and now the customer wants 2 cameras and the ability to switch between them. I wish Capture-HD-Pro had a HDMI in for camera in addition to HD-SDI...
I guess that is why Crestron is pitching a SD sony camera for the application...
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Re: Trying to migrate away from D3 for lighting.
I'll third this. I love D3 to get the lighting system itself built and operational, but I've never used it for touchpanels. Anything like the behavior you're talking about gets RSDed to a different processor or program slot.
That said, it's not such a big deal to open a D3-built SMW and pull out their learning modules. I've done that a couple times when I can't remember module names. They probably won't be documented, but you should be able to figure it out easily enough.
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I can see your point about D3 not providing the best in VTPro integration.
To be honest, I don't usually land touchpanels on the lighting system side
of things. I typically use D3 like brianrcs explained, modules for custom
logic and separate processors.
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Re: crestron mobile versus command fusion
Hi Fabio,
Is this behavior you describe with the latest app, the one that came out a week or ago? I spoke to the Crestron mobile guy at the Cypress opening and he assured me that the do want the ipad app to work well and are continuing to refine it. ( i even saw a demo of a version that had fancy scrolling that has that little box in the scroll bar like an ipad or iphone has). Anyhow, they told me the wakeup on the setup page was done on purpose so that people who need their ipad to work on two systems ( like on their boat, and later at their home) have a way to chnage projects.
I disagreed and told them to give us a menu option, something like Multi-site install ON or OFF.
Anyhow talking with them it seems they do care and are doing their best, but its slow progress obviously. I have never used CF so cant comment on that.
But i just wanted to tell others that the wake on setup was done on urpose to allow mutli sites for a single ipad. Stupid!
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Re: crestron mobile versus command fusion
Crestron can fix that. They just need to figure it out. (I have successfully negotiated the Crestron connection/update process with S+ in a side project I'm playing with. Blows away how theirs works.) Command fusion will have its issues but not like that. The nice thing with CF is you have an awesome group of guys in their google group, two or more of whom are the principal players over there. They will often have a problem diagnosed, fixed and waiting for the App store to approve its release by the time you get done with a message thread. There has been a lot of talk over there lately surrounding connexion issues. The not so nice things: JavaScript (but you can exist without it and still have greater functionality than MPG.). All that being said, I'm still somewhat on the fence because they both have their issues (hence my side project.) Heath Volmer Digital Domain Systems 303-517-9714 Sent from my iTypo 4 On Mar 30, 2012, at 6:23 PM, "fabiodaubermann" <fdaubermann@...> wrote: A while back here I read the thread about keeping the Crestron Mobile G alive by sending a string every 10 sec¡
Based on that idea, I went further and set the iPad settings to never sleep and then created a subpage with a black background that hovers over the top when there is no user activity¡
For aesthetics I added a big clock with a very subtle color (with dark grey font) on that subpage as well. It appears as a nice screen-saver.
This clock is actually a string (coming from simpl+) every 10 sec to keep the iPad "alive". And this way even though the iPad is permanently on, the screen at least appears dark and it works well for iPads that sit on a wall dock¡
After all this though, it's just a matter of time until eventually the iPad loses connection and reverts back to that setup screen (damn it!).
I can't believe Mobile G cannot have an internal routine with a loop such as if the connection drops, it will retry to connect after a minute or two in and endless loop. No matter what they say, don't tell me that this could not be done¡ (or am I crazy?)
That being said, I understand that interests are at stake and this flaw might very well be intentional (I might be wrong, but chances are I'm not¡. )
Well, the way I see it, the iPad is here to stay, and no matter what size of company you are, you cannot compete with the standards that apple brings to the world. You better join it or lose it. If we cannot make an iPad behave like a real touchpanel, doesn't matter what you say, our end users will keep asking and we will forever see the frustration in our dealers faces¡
In my opinion the iPad is the best touchpanel ever made! It's a game changer. (ok, it does have a few flaws, but pretty darn good!)
I am contemplating moving to command fusion, but I don't know if it solves the problems I described above¡ does command fusion at least tries to reconnect itself automatically when the connection is broken?
Did not want to start a rant, but apparently did.
Thank you to all members of this group, such a great source of knowledge!
Fabio
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That's pretty slick. Looks a lot like the Crestron demo.
JRW
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--- In Crestron@..., "Starry" <starry99@...> wrote:
How about
?
--- In Crestron@..., "jrw_96" <jrw_96@> wrote:
I don't have an answer for residential sales (we don't do resi) but you might ask your sales rep about some videos/tolls that would help you land the deal.
Our sales rep stopped by today and showed us a flash site that may help you with the commercial side of things:
< Remember, the sales rep is there to help you (most of the time) so let them know what you think you need to compete and if enough people do the same you should get it.
JRW
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like this:
--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@> wrote:
What you're describing is a BIG difference from Crestron to C4. C4 can
produce marketing that says, "with our product you can enjoy X" because
they've ensured that you can't program it any other way. IMHO Crestron
doesn't produce marketing that is geared that way because they're stuff
allows for so much more flexibility in the configuration and programming of
their hardware. Maybe they could produce that type of marketing for the
stuff SB generates but even then it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to
wait for "day 2" to get the features talked about :)
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
:) Nevertheless, I could use some marketing material that doesn't focus on
what great technology and wires are behind their walls, but more on the
overall solution they will get when they sit down in their living room, if
you know what I mean...
--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@> wrote:
I'd prefer that Crestron marketing not talk to my customers, since
that generally leads to a discussion of what "day 2" means.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
Am I the only one that's complaining about the following: why is
Crestron's marketing approach so product-driven? Most of their marketing
appears to be aimed at resellers instead of consumers. Control4 (sorry for
that) does target their consumers directly with video's, commercials etc.
that explain what their products can mean in their daily life. Just
curious, don't you guys miss that while marketing your products? I might of
course have missed the consumer-targeted marketing material, if so, please
direct me to it.
Thanks
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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.
A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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Yahoo!
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Yeah, that's great! No need for stuff like this, but some other company earning money on it huh? ;)
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--- In Crestron@..., "Starry" <starry99@...> wrote:
How about
?
--- In Crestron@..., "jrw_96" <jrw_96@> wrote:
I don't have an answer for residential sales (we don't do resi) but you might ask your sales rep about some videos/tolls that would help you land the deal.
Our sales rep stopped by today and showed us a flash site that may help you with the commercial side of things:
< Remember, the sales rep is there to help you (most of the time) so let them know what you think you need to compete and if enough people do the same you should get it.
JRW
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like this:
--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@> wrote:
What you're describing is a BIG difference from Crestron to C4. C4 can
produce marketing that says, "with our product you can enjoy X" because
they've ensured that you can't program it any other way. IMHO Crestron
doesn't produce marketing that is geared that way because they're stuff
allows for so much more flexibility in the configuration and programming of
their hardware. Maybe they could produce that type of marketing for the
stuff SB generates but even then it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to
wait for "day 2" to get the features talked about :)
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
:) Nevertheless, I could use some marketing material that doesn't focus on
what great technology and wires are behind their walls, but more on the
overall solution they will get when they sit down in their living room, if
you know what I mean...
--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@> wrote:
I'd prefer that Crestron marketing not talk to my customers, since
that generally leads to a discussion of what "day 2" means.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
Am I the only one that's complaining about the following: why is
Crestron's marketing approach so product-driven? Most of their marketing
appears to be aimed at resellers instead of consumers. Control4 (sorry for
that) does target their consumers directly with video's, commercials etc.
that explain what their products can mean in their daily life. Just
curious, don't you guys miss that while marketing your products? I might of
course have missed the consumer-targeted marketing material, if so, please
direct me to it.
Thanks
------------------------------------
Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.
A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links
--
Jeremy Weatherford
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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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Yahoo!
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How about
?
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--- In Crestron@..., "jrw_96" <jrw_96@...> wrote:
I don't have an answer for residential sales (we don't do resi) but you might ask your sales rep about some videos/tolls that would help you land the deal.
Our sales rep stopped by today and showed us a flash site that may help you with the commercial side of things:
< Remember, the sales rep is there to help you (most of the time) so let them know what you think you need to compete and if enough people do the same you should get it.
JRW
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like this:
--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@> wrote:
What you're describing is a BIG difference from Crestron to C4. C4 can
produce marketing that says, "with our product you can enjoy X" because
they've ensured that you can't program it any other way. IMHO Crestron
doesn't produce marketing that is geared that way because they're stuff
allows for so much more flexibility in the configuration and programming of
their hardware. Maybe they could produce that type of marketing for the
stuff SB generates but even then it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to
wait for "day 2" to get the features talked about :)
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
:) Nevertheless, I could use some marketing material that doesn't focus on
what great technology and wires are behind their walls, but more on the
overall solution they will get when they sit down in their living room, if
you know what I mean...
--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@> wrote:
I'd prefer that Crestron marketing not talk to my customers, since
that generally leads to a discussion of what "day 2" means.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
Am I the only one that's complaining about the following: why is
Crestron's marketing approach so product-driven? Most of their marketing
appears to be aimed at resellers instead of consumers. Control4 (sorry for
that) does target their consumers directly with video's, commercials etc.
that explain what their products can mean in their daily life. Just
curious, don't you guys miss that while marketing your products? I might of
course have missed the consumer-targeted marketing material, if so, please
direct me to it.
Thanks
------------------------------------
Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.
A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links
--
Jeremy Weatherford
------------------------------------
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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
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crestron mobile versus command fusion
A while back here I read the thread about keeping the Crestron Mobile G alive by sending a string every 10 sec¡
Based on that idea, I went further and set the iPad settings to never sleep and then created a subpage with a black background that hovers over the top when there is no user activity¡
For aesthetics I added a big clock with a very subtle color (with dark grey font) on that subpage as well. It appears as a nice screen-saver.
This clock is actually a string (coming from simpl+) every 10 sec to keep the iPad "alive". And this way even though the iPad is permanently on, the screen at least appears dark and it works well for iPads that sit on a wall dock¡
After all this though, it's just a matter of time until eventually the iPad loses connection and reverts back to that setup screen (damn it!).
I can't believe Mobile G cannot have an internal routine with a loop such as if the connection drops, it will retry to connect after a minute or two in and endless loop. No matter what they say, don't tell me that this could not be done¡ (or am I crazy?)
That being said, I understand that interests are at stake and this flaw might very well be intentional (I might be wrong, but chances are I'm not¡. )
Well, the way I see it, the iPad is here to stay, and no matter what size of company you are, you cannot compete with the standards that apple brings to the world. You better join it or lose it. If we cannot make an iPad behave like a real touchpanel, doesn't matter what you say, our end users will keep asking and we will forever see the frustration in our dealers faces¡
In my opinion the iPad is the best touchpanel ever made! It's a game changer. (ok, it does have a few flaws, but pretty darn good!)
I am contemplating moving to command fusion, but I don't know if it solves the problems I described above¡ does command fusion at least tries to reconnect itself automatically when the connection is broken?
Did not want to start a rant, but apparently did.
Thank you to all members of this group, such a great source of knowledge!
Fabio
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Yeah, something like that would be helpful for the residential market, thanks! And my sales rep is very helpful, no Crestron bashing intended here, was just wondering if I was the only one that would like to have more of this.
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--- In Crestron@..., "jrw_96" <jrw_96@...> wrote:
I don't have an answer for residential sales (we don't do resi) but you might ask your sales rep about some videos/tolls that would help you land the deal.
Our sales rep stopped by today and showed us a flash site that may help you with the commercial side of things:
< Remember, the sales rep is there to help you (most of the time) so let them know what you think you need to compete and if enough people do the same you should get it.
JRW
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like this:
--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@> wrote:
What you're describing is a BIG difference from Crestron to C4. C4 can
produce marketing that says, "with our product you can enjoy X" because
they've ensured that you can't program it any other way. IMHO Crestron
doesn't produce marketing that is geared that way because they're stuff
allows for so much more flexibility in the configuration and programming of
their hardware. Maybe they could produce that type of marketing for the
stuff SB generates but even then it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to
wait for "day 2" to get the features talked about :)
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
:) Nevertheless, I could use some marketing material that doesn't focus on
what great technology and wires are behind their walls, but more on the
overall solution they will get when they sit down in their living room, if
you know what I mean...
--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@> wrote:
I'd prefer that Crestron marketing not talk to my customers, since
that generally leads to a discussion of what "day 2" means.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
Am I the only one that's complaining about the following: why is
Crestron's marketing approach so product-driven? Most of their marketing
appears to be aimed at resellers instead of consumers. Control4 (sorry for
that) does target their consumers directly with video's, commercials etc.
that explain what their products can mean in their daily life. Just
curious, don't you guys miss that while marketing your products? I might of
course have missed the consumer-targeted marketing material, if so, please
direct me to it.
Thanks
------------------------------------
Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.
A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links
--
Jeremy Weatherford
------------------------------------
Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.
A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links
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Wow, "tolls" was so typed "tutorials"... I promise I'm not been drinking ocifer... (ok maybe I have :p)
JRW
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--- In Crestron@..., "jrw_96" <jrw_96@...> wrote:
I don't have an answer for residential sales (we don't do resi) but you might ask your sales rep about some videos/tolls that would help you land the deal.
Our sales rep stopped by today and showed us a flash site that may help you with the commercial side of things:
< Remember, the sales rep is there to help you (most of the time) so let them know what you think you need to compete and if enough people do the same you should get it.
JRW
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like this:
--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@> wrote:
What you're describing is a BIG difference from Crestron to C4. C4 can
produce marketing that says, "with our product you can enjoy X" because
they've ensured that you can't program it any other way. IMHO Crestron
doesn't produce marketing that is geared that way because they're stuff
allows for so much more flexibility in the configuration and programming of
their hardware. Maybe they could produce that type of marketing for the
stuff SB generates but even then it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to
wait for "day 2" to get the features talked about :)
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
:) Nevertheless, I could use some marketing material that doesn't focus on
what great technology and wires are behind their walls, but more on the
overall solution they will get when they sit down in their living room, if
you know what I mean...
--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@> wrote:
I'd prefer that Crestron marketing not talk to my customers, since
that generally leads to a discussion of what "day 2" means.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
Am I the only one that's complaining about the following: why is
Crestron's marketing approach so product-driven? Most of their marketing
appears to be aimed at resellers instead of consumers. Control4 (sorry for
that) does target their consumers directly with video's, commercials etc.
that explain what their products can mean in their daily life. Just
curious, don't you guys miss that while marketing your products? I might of
course have missed the consumer-targeted marketing material, if so, please
direct me to it.
Thanks
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I don't have an answer for residential sales (we don't do resi) but you might ask your sales rep about some videos/tolls that would help you land the deal. Our sales rep stopped by today and showed us a flash site that may help you with the commercial side of things: < Remember, the sales rep is there to help you (most of the time) so let them know what you think you need to compete and if enough people do the same you should get it. JRW --- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@...> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like this:
--- In Crestron@..., Nathan Hesson <nhesson@> wrote:
What you're describing is a BIG difference from Crestron to C4. C4 can
produce marketing that says, "with our product you can enjoy X" because
they've ensured that you can't program it any other way. IMHO Crestron
doesn't produce marketing that is geared that way because they're stuff
allows for so much more flexibility in the configuration and programming of
their hardware. Maybe they could produce that type of marketing for the
stuff SB generates but even then it wouldn't be accurate. You'd have to
wait for "day 2" to get the features talked about :)
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 1:27 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
:) Nevertheless, I could use some marketing material that doesn't focus on
what great technology and wires are behind their walls, but more on the
overall solution they will get when they sit down in their living room, if
you know what I mean...
--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <xidus.net@> wrote:
I'd prefer that Crestron marketing not talk to my customers, since
that generally leads to a discussion of what "day 2" means.
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM, rogiervs <rogier@> wrote:
Am I the only one that's complaining about the following: why is
Crestron's marketing approach so product-driven? Most of their marketing
appears to be aimed at resellers instead of consumers. Control4 (sorry for
that) does target their consumers directly with video's, commercials etc.
that explain what their products can mean in their daily life. Just
curious, don't you guys miss that while marketing your products? I might of
course have missed the consumer-targeted marketing material, if so, please
direct me to it.
Thanks
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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.
A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links
--
Jeremy Weatherford
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But hey, obviously I'm alone in this, which means I'll go setting up some material myself ;-) no problem, was just interested in your guys thoughts, thx
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--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@...> wrote:
Not sure about C4 pricing, but doesn't Crestron advertise their pricing is competitive?
--- In Crestron@..., Mark Herron <marktheph@> wrote:
price point?
On Mar 30, 2012 4:48 PM, "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
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Don't get me wrong, Crestron quality sells itself for a big part. I just
see inferior products gaining market share in the residential market. Must
have something to do with marketing, right?
--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@>
wrote:
Yea seriously. I don't see it gaining them that much and clearly their
marketing team feels the same way.
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
LOL, seriously? Great business spirit...
--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@>
wrote:
Probably because they don't need to?
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like
this:
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Re: Mac running virtual and certain keys quit working
That's a Windows thing, regardless of the hardware you run it on. I've seen this, though I'm sorry I don't remember the answer.
- Chip
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--- In Crestron@..., "jasongt30721" <jaevans_cg@...> wrote:
Ok got an iMac although my MacBook Pro has done this to me as well in the past and I'm pretty sure I was running Snow Leopard and XP in VMWare on them both. Now both are Lion, Parallels and XP. In Simpl when you go to type on a symbol's line both the enter keys stop functioning along with some other ones that make it a real PITA to work, I think a reboot fixes it but it will start acting up again. I ran across a fix that was stupid easy and should have bookmarked it, I think it had to do with Caps lock or something that the press got registered but the release didn't and something get's it corrected and synced up again but I have forgot what. It may have had something to do with Multi Monitor as well, got 2 extra displays attached to the iMac figured it might be useful info to throw in. If anyone knows the fix for this, please remind me or if more info is needed let me know.
Thanks
Jason
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Feel your pain!!!
- Chip
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I got a call from a dealer who is updating an older system and the client furnished a NAD Viso Five as the combo receiver/DVD player, to replace an old Sony receiver. Um, NAD, yeah I remember them from a while back. Let's see what's out there in the way of documentation.
Their website yields a download for RS-232 control. Wow, this is great, I think. A few SIO's and I'll be done. Well, maybe not.
The zip file I got revealed 3 separate documents related to serial control of the Viso Five. Wait, shouldn't it be just two pages I need? All I want to do is pick some inputs and control volume.
Well, turns out one entire document is dedicated to calculating the checksum and some mysterious "control bytes". Uh oh.
It's a surround receiver and a transport deck! Not a nuclear centrifuge! I wanted to bang this out before dawn and be done, not sit around doing bitwise arithmetic.
And the protocol document specifies a "standard straight throw serial cable". Ugh.
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Not sure about C4 pricing, but doesn't Crestron advertise their pricing is competitive?
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--- In Crestron@..., Mark Herron <marktheph@...> wrote:
price point?
On Mar 30, 2012 4:48 PM, "rogiervs" <rogier@...> wrote:
**
Don't get me wrong, Crestron quality sells itself for a big part. I just
see inferior products gaining market share in the residential market. Must
have something to do with marketing, right?
--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@>
wrote:
Yea seriously. I don't see it gaining them that much and clearly their
marketing team feels the same way.
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
LOL, seriously? Great business spirit...
--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@>
wrote:
Probably because they don't need to?
--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:
Still, I don't see why Crestron couldn't create something like
this:
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Hi Everyone,
I'm just getting to grips with Crestron and have a question.
Is it possible to change the x and y (top and left) position of a dynamic image on the fly from SIMPL + code?
Or do you have to use animation or something else?
Thanks in advance.
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