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Re: New iOS App?

Jason Andersen
 

Initially looking at this, it is disappointing. The interface is not using retina graphics, items are not lineup correctly, and the demo is laughable.

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Re: Theme Editor in Studio

maglite4cell
 

Completely Agreed.

--- In Crestron@..., "Jason Andersen" <jandersen@...> wrote:

Its a process that isn't worth, its still in beta imo. Leave it there until its baked.

--- In Crestron@..., "maglite4cell" <maglite4cell@> wrote:

I was able to use it, but found some bugs. I had a bug with the Design explorer widndow. It wasn't populating until I clicked the gear, and checked show layout management control. I then had to create a new layout and then delete the old one for the list to populate.

Also there was a bug with the Horizontal Tab Button bar where the text colors and styles were not always carrying over. Make sure to read the manual on how to set up the style.

To create a button style I had to create a style, add button to the style categories of the style properties, then go to the controlStyles in the design explorer, and open up ControlStyles1. Then navigate to the button control name and click the associated styles attribute, then select the style that I created. I compiled and saved. I then opened up VTPro and selected my layout for the page properties, then selected the button style I created under the button properties -> Button Style.

Its a process, and the help file isn't the greatest. my reccomendation is to copy a style then edit it, but you still need to associate it with the ControlStles.

Good luck!

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

not in 1.09 but I've been using it successfully since it was in beta in 1.06


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM, oldspunky <paul@> wrote:

**


Has anyone in the group had success using the theme editor in the new
Studio 1.09.013.00?
Thanks,
Paul





Re: Many analogs match last changed value

Heath Volmer
 

As soon as you enable a buffer, it spits out to all of the others which retriggers the others' logic, which fires up a loop.

I think there must be a timeout that says "if one has changed, prohibit all others from propagating their change for some period of time."


On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:51 AM, weddellkw <weddellkw@...> wrote:

spitballing:

room01#...room05# (analogs)
enable_feature (digital)(logic to enable/disable this feature)

aos
room01#->room01_changed
...
aos
room05#->room05_changed

abuf
room01_changed
room01#->changed_value#
...
abuf
room05_changed
room05#->changed_value#

abuf
enable_feature
changed_value#->room01#
...
changed_value#->room05#

Would this create a loop for the active room? You're also gonna be susceptible to jumps in level for the non-active rooms.

--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Say I have five analogs. I want all of those analogs to be the same value,
depending on which one changes last. This will be enabled or disabled, so
that sometimes they will all be in line and other times they will be
independent.

Is there a clean way to do this? I can see an ABUF or SBUF with each
combination of analogs coming in and going out but I'm not sure about
creating and explosive looping scenario. I think the ABUF might protect
from this...

--
Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO





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Re: New iOS App?

Eric Williams
 

I was incredibly pleased with the performance. I did notice the lists on the weather object were scrolling ridiculously slow. I loaded a program into our office from home. Even over a remote connection the UI responded very fast. I loaded in some sound they also played almost as soon as I pressed the buttons. I also noticed as long as you don't shut down the app it seems like it doesn't even disconnect from the control system. No spinny things.

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Pavlik" <jpavlik@...>
Sent: ?6/?7/?2013 12:34 PM
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?


Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's
I'm surprised to hear that - in general the performance I thought was much better. Perhaps if you wouldn't mind sending me a project to exhibit this. Is this a general consensus on this group?

You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently
Rotation is coming this summer.

The built-in demo is laughable
Actually, we had a much nicer demo but due to some "guidelines" we had to swap it out. A better demo will be added next week.

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Re: Theme Editor in Studio

Jason Andersen
 

Its a process that isn't worth, its still in beta imo. Leave it there until its baked.

--- In Crestron@..., "maglite4cell" <maglite4cell@...> wrote:

I was able to use it, but found some bugs. I had a bug with the Design explorer widndow. It wasn't populating until I clicked the gear, and checked show layout management control. I then had to create a new layout and then delete the old one for the list to populate.

Also there was a bug with the Horizontal Tab Button bar where the text colors and styles were not always carrying over. Make sure to read the manual on how to set up the style.

To create a button style I had to create a style, add button to the style categories of the style properties, then go to the controlStyles in the design explorer, and open up ControlStyles1. Then navigate to the button control name and click the associated styles attribute, then select the style that I created. I compiled and saved. I then opened up VTPro and selected my layout for the page properties, then selected the button style I created under the button properties -> Button Style.

Its a process, and the help file isn't the greatest. my reccomendation is to copy a style then edit it, but you still need to associate it with the ControlStles.

Good luck!

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

not in 1.09 but I've been using it successfully since it was in beta in 1.06


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM, oldspunky <paul@> wrote:

**


Has anyone in the group had success using the theme editor in the new
Studio 1.09.013.00?
Thanks,
Paul



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Re: Theme Editor in Studio

maglite4cell
 

I was able to use it, but found some bugs. I had a bug with the Design explorer widndow. It wasn't populating until I clicked the gear, and checked show layout management control. I then had to create a new layout and then delete the old one for the list to populate.

Also there was a bug with the Horizontal Tab Button bar where the text colors and styles were not always carrying over. Make sure to read the manual on how to set up the style.

To create a button style I had to create a style, add button to the style categories of the style properties, then go to the controlStyles in the design explorer, and open up ControlStyles1. Then navigate to the button control name and click the associated styles attribute, then select the style that I created. I compiled and saved. I then opened up VTPro and selected my layout for the page properties, then selected the button style I created under the button properties -> Button Style.

Its a process, and the help file isn't the greatest. my reccomendation is to copy a style then edit it, but you still need to associate it with the ControlStles.

Good luck!

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

not in 1.09 but I've been using it successfully since it was in beta in 1.06


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM, oldspunky <paul@...> wrote:

**


Has anyone in the group had success using the theme editor in the new
Studio 1.09.013.00?
Thanks,
Paul





Re: Many analogs match last changed value

Kool-Aid Drinker
 

Do-able? yes. Clean? no.

When you transition from individual-values to shared-value, do you
want them to wait for the next propagation to become synchronized? Or
is it necessary to track the last change and propagate that?

In shared, if one of them gets a repropagation of the current value,
should they all get a repropagation?

Mmmm. Friday puzzles!

On Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:27:16 -0600, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
wrote:

Say I have five analogs. I want all of those analogs to be the same value,
depending on which one changes last. This will be enabled or disabled, so
that sometimes they will all be in line and other times they will be
independent.

Is there a clean way to do this? I can see an ABUF or SBUF with each
combination of analogs coming in and going out but I'm not sure about
creating and explosive looping scenario. I think the ABUF might protect
from this...


Re: Many analogs match last changed value

 

spitballing:

room01#...room05# (analogs)
enable_feature (digital)(logic to enable/disable this feature)

aos
room01#->room01_changed
...
aos
room05#->room05_changed

abuf
room01_changed
room01#->changed_value#
...
abuf
room05_changed
room05#->changed_value#

abuf
enable_feature
changed_value#->room01#
...
changed_value#->room05#

Would this create a loop for the active room? You're also gonna be susceptible to jumps in level for the non-active rooms.

--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Say I have five analogs. I want all of those analogs to be the same value,
depending on which one changes last. This will be enabled or disabled, so
that sometimes they will all be in line and other times they will be
independent.

Is there a clean way to do this? I can see an ABUF or SBUF with each
combination of analogs coming in and going out but I'm not sure about
creating and explosive looping scenario. I think the ABUF might protect
from this...

--
Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO


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Re: Many analogs match last changed value

 

Use 5 ATOS's and an IL or INIT/EQU to track the last changed value, use
ABUF/SBUF combos based on the last changed digitals as enables. That
should do 'er

On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

**


Say I have five analogs. I want all of those analogs to be the same value,
depending on which one changes last. This will be enabled or disabled, so
that sometimes they will all be in line and other times they will be
independent.

Is there a clean way to do this? I can see an ABUF or SBUF with each
combination of analogs coming in and going out but I'm not sure about
creating and explosive looping scenario. I think the ABUF might protect
from this...

--
Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

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Crestron Studio 1.09 working for anyone?

 

I can't even get a simple one PJ system to build.

mps300
epson PJ
xpanel 2.0 with 2 buttons, pj power on and power off

Building gives this error and I can't even tell what device it can't make complete.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6/7/2013 11:37:50 AM Error Program generation failed removing ophaned signals or making the program complete. (Detail: Invalid Numeric Value - Error Code=PARAM_VALID)
--------------------------

This feels absurd, what am I doing wrong?


Re: New iOS App?

 

Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's
I'm surprised to hear that - in general the performance I thought was much better. Perhaps if you wouldn't mind sending me a project to exhibit this. Is this a general consensus on this group?

You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently
Rotation is coming this summer.

The built-in demo is laughable
Actually, we had a much nicer demo but due to some "guidelines" we had to swap it out. A better demo will be added next week.



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Many analogs match last changed value

Heath Volmer
 

Say I have five analogs. I want all of those analogs to be the same value,
depending on which one changes last. This will be enabled or disabled, so
that sometimes they will all be in line and other times they will be
independent.

Is there a clean way to do this? I can see an ABUF or SBUF with each
combination of analogs coming in and going out but I'm not sure about
creating and explosive looping scenario. I think the ABUF might protect
from this...

--
Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO


Re: New iOS App?

 

Thanks Rich. That does make it better and just like any other iOS app
purchase. Once I saw it as an in-app purchase I assumed (that dam word
again) that it was per device. Dang assumptions. Guess we'll have to stick
with the Mobile Pro G versions for now until bugs are ironed out.

Pat M


From: rich_fregosa <rich@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 11:25 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?








The in-app purchases operate like most apps, it's a "per account" purchase
so once you purchase it once for iPad #1, for every subsequent device you
use the "Restore Purchase" option.

So, in a nutshell you pay once, and can deploy it to the other devices that
use the same account (technically per the TOS it's only supposed to be a
maximum of 5 devices, but I've never seen that kick in personally)

Also in some basic testing with it.

- Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse
than the lag on TSW's

- You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait
or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently

- The built-in demo is laughable, only show this to a prospective client if
you want to use it to sell away from Crestron into something like Command
Fusion or someone else's product. This was obviously crammed in at the last
possible minute and whoever is responsible for the project said "ah screw
it, it's good enough, ship it out!"

It took close to 2 years for them to dial in Mobile Pro and Mobile Pro G,
this is going to be a rough go for the next several months, be sure to stock
up on coffee and advil and prepare for a lot of cursing. I've already
started.

On the plus side - the widgets worked well and the weather app was snappy
and responsive. And I think with this release it will likely accelerate the
development of Core3 both from True Blue's side and our side as we deploy it
more.

Good luck everyone,

Rich

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Michael J Coe <pe2b4nasa@...> wrote:

Yeah that will hurt the sale for sure

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:48 AM, PatM Gmail <pat.molettieri@...> wrote:

Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M

From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> >
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> >
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep
people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you
the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>






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Re: New iOS App?

Michael J Coe
 

Thanks for the info. I checked with Apple an each AppleID can be associated with a maximum of 10 devices. If you have more than 10 you will have to create another AppleID (these appleIDs cannot be associated with each other (ie appleID 1: name@... & appleID 2 name.1@...) do not link these two e-mails with apple)

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:25 AM, "rich_fregosa" <rich@...> wrote:



The in-app purchases operate like most apps, it's a "per account" purchase so once you purchase it once for iPad #1, for every subsequent device you use the "Restore Purchase" option.

So, in a nutshell you pay once, and can deploy it to the other devices that use the same account (technically per the TOS it's only supposed to be a maximum of 5 devices, but I've never seen that kick in personally)

Also in some basic testing with it.

- Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's

- You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently

- The built-in demo is laughable, only show this to a prospective client if you want to use it to sell away from Crestron into something like Command Fusion or someone else's product. This was obviously crammed in at the last possible minute and whoever is responsible for the project said "ah screw it, it's good enough, ship it out!"

It took close to 2 years for them to dial in Mobile Pro and Mobile Pro G, this is going to be a rough go for the next several months, be sure to stock up on coffee and advil and prepare for a lot of cursing. I've already started.

On the plus side - the widgets worked well and the weather app was snappy and responsive. And I think with this release it will likely accelerate the development of Core3 both from True Blue's side and our side as we deploy it more.

Good luck everyone,

Rich

--- In Crestron@..., Michael J Coe <pe2b4nasa@...> wrote:

Yeah that will hurt the sale for sure

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:48 AM, PatM Gmail <pat.molettieri@...> wrote:

Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M

From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>

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Re: New iOS App?

 

The in-app purchases operate like most apps, it's a "per account" purchase so once you purchase it once for iPad #1, for every subsequent device you use the "Restore Purchase" option.

So, in a nutshell you pay once, and can deploy it to the other devices that use the same account (technically per the TOS it's only supposed to be a maximum of 5 devices, but I've never seen that kick in personally)

Also in some basic testing with it.

- Scrolling lists are *agonizingly* slow and clunky, on a par if not worse than the lag on TSW's

- You're locked into one orientation when you create the project, portrait or landscape, no dual orientation mode currently

- The built-in demo is laughable, only show this to a prospective client if you want to use it to sell away from Crestron into something like Command Fusion or someone else's product. This was obviously crammed in at the last possible minute and whoever is responsible for the project said "ah screw it, it's good enough, ship it out!"

It took close to 2 years for them to dial in Mobile Pro and Mobile Pro G, this is going to be a rough go for the next several months, be sure to stock up on coffee and advil and prepare for a lot of cursing. I've already started.

On the plus side - the widgets worked well and the weather app was snappy and responsive. And I think with this release it will likely accelerate the development of Core3 both from True Blue's side and our side as we deploy it more.

Good luck everyone,

Rich

--- In Crestron@..., Michael J Coe <pe2b4nasa@...> wrote:

Yeah that will hurt the sale for sure

Michael J Coe

On Jun 7, 2013, at 9:48 AM, PatM Gmail <pat.molettieri@...> wrote:

Now that would definitely put a damper on it if I need to tell the client it
is $99 per each iOS device.

Pat M

From: Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Friday, June 7, 2013 9:44 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] New iOS App?

I assume that since it's an in-app purchase, it's now $99 per unit.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 6:31 AM, Nick Mitchell <nick@...
<mailto:nick%40sound-fx.net> > wrote:

Oh ok. I didn't even see the upgrade feature. I guess that will keep people
from sharing the paid version.

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 7, 2013, at 8:20 AM, "Jesus @ Audio& Net Artist" <
audioandnetartist@... <mailto:audioandnetartist%40gmail.com> > wrote:



Just downloaded as "free" but when you go to Updrade it will charge you the
$99.99. maybe is like the traditional way free with limited and paid for
expanded. I cannot even run the Demo for some reason... And now requires
IPID anc CIP.

--
*Jesus Tossas*
*
*
*Technology Architect, Audio Engineer, Programmer*
*
*
*787-329-3944*
*
*
Contact Info <>






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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

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Re: Theme Editor in Studio

 

not in 1.09 but I've been using it successfully since it was in beta in 1.06


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:53 AM, oldspunky <paul@...> wrote:

**


Has anyone in the group had success using the theme editor in the new
Studio 1.09.013.00?
Thanks,
Paul



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Re: DMPS IP from front panel?

 

Unfortunately I'm offsite via VPN on a different subnet. USB currently not
an option.

I'm told by a colleague that it's accessible via the front panel though.


On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...
wrote:
**


Pretty sure the answer is no.

You can always use the front USB port or if you're on the same /23 device
discovery should do you well...

Sent from my iPad


On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Neil Dorin" <neildorin@...> wrote:

I've been lucky not to have to deal with too many DMPS's so far.

Is there a way to display the IP address of the unit on the front panel
from the OOTBF program?

I'm wondering if the techs get the rack installed and networked today if
they'll be able to tell me the IP or if I'll have to go "toolbox console
hunting" on a /23 network...


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Re: DMPS IP from front panel?

 

Yes, you just need to enter the password using the jog dial to access the
menu. You can set the IP from there as well.

Best regards,
Staszek Krycki
7 cze 2013 17:03, "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...>
napisa?(a):

**


Pretty sure the answer is no.

You can always use the front USB port or if you're on the same /23 device
discovery should do you well...

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Neil Dorin" <neildorin@...> wrote:

I've been lucky not to have to deal with too many DMPS's so far.

Is there a way to display the IP address of the unit on the front panel
from the OOTBF program?

I'm wondering if the techs get the rack installed and networked today if
they'll be able to tell me the IP or if I'll have to go "toolbox console
hunting" on a /23 network...


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: DMPS IP from front panel?

 

Pretty sure the answer is no.

You can always use the front USB port or if you're on the same /23 device discovery should do you well...

On Jun 7, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Neil Dorin" <neildorin@...> wrote:

I've been lucky not to have to deal with too many DMPS's so far.

Is there a way to display the IP address of the unit on the front panel
from the OOTBF program?

I'm wondering if the techs get the rack installed and networked today if
they'll be able to tell me the IP or if I'll have to go "toolbox console
hunting" on a /23 network...


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Theme Editor in Studio

oldspunky
 

Has anyone in the group had success using the theme editor in the new Studio 1.09.013.00?
Thanks,
Paul