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CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

 

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual idea being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can still ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and other times it will generate an update request with every string that it receives from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the thing more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first generation" CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad, because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln


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Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

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Re: Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

 

I've used both the Advent and the Concord.
I really haven't tried too much with keypad emulation, just real-time feedback.

There was a problem with the GE modules for the Advent a while back, where you'd get double keypad presses, but I think that was cleared up by a member of the Yahoo group (again, cleared up a while back).

Chris

Mark Day wrote:

HAI Omni Pro II, works beautifully
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On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "jrc.audiovideo"
<jamesclaflin@... <mailto:jamesclaflin%40hotmail.com>> wrote:

> I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
> trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
> panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
> it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
> panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
> starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
> laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
> within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
> on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
> motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
> well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
> crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
> there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
> text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
> definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
> panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
> instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
> and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
> I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
> with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
> control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
>


Re: Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

 

I'm not fond of the Ademcos. Even the HAI is better.

Overall, I still like the GE Advent the best - it gives the best
emulation of the physical system keypad.

The GE NetWorx is genenerally good too, just a little more awkward for
jobs with multiple partitions.


--- In Crestron@..., "jrc.audiovideo" <jamesclaflin@...>
wrote:

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim


Re: Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

Mark Day
 

HAI Omni Pro II, works beautifully

Mark Day's iPhone
!deabox Media Group
T: +1 (702) 332-3156
E:mark@...

On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "jrc.audiovideo"
<jamesclaflin@...> wrote:

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim


Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

 

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim


Re: Can Crestron send this kind of signal???

 

That should be a cool project. Let us know how it turns out.

I wish I had a couple of fists full of hair to pull out...

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:48 PM, <stefuel@...> wrote:
What I'm trying to do is to add variable top and bottom masking to my
existing 4:3 aspect ratio front projection screen. I want to use this serial
servo
controller along with two multi-turn (4 turn) sail winch servos.
The servos will be connected to 1-1/4 dia. rollers that the black felt
masking material will be attached to which will allow me to mask the un-used
portion of the screen when viewing HD material. I have the mechanics of the
project all worked out but it would be a understatement to say that serial
control
is my weak point so I'll take all the advice I can get. My one and only
serial project was about a year ago. It cost me a couple of fists full of
hair and
a couple of weeks to make work. That was to gain control of my APC Smart UPS
that in my HT equipment rack. Are there easier ways to get some of my
projects done? Sure but this is how I learn.


In a message dated 1/24/2009 7:56:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cfm@...
writes:

Looks like all that does is take positioning commands and puts
attached servos to the appropriate positions. It uses 3 byte
commands, &#92;xFF&#92;xYY&#92;xZZ where YY is the servo number and ZZ is the
position.

Don't think you'd need more than an SIO to drive this puppy...

- Chip

P.S. Looks like a lotta fun...

--- In _Crestron@yahoogroupCrest_ (mailto:Crestron@...) ,
stefuel@... wrote:

I'm not actually sure it does require Simpl+ but I'm unsure of how
to get
started and which logic symbol or combination of symbols will do
what I want.
The serial controller I'm looking at
__HTTP://pololu.HTTP://pololHTTP://polol_
()
(_
() ) is what I'm looking at to
control 2
servos. The two servos will be commanded to move to a total of four
positions
within their rotational capacity. The rotational values from full
left to full
right range from 1 to 255. They will counter rotate but work
together so one
will start at position 1 and the other will start from position
255. The
second point for example will be 50 and 205. Anyone care to take a
stab at
telling me how to go about this? Thanks,
Chip


In a message dated 1/11/2009 1:02:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mdelzer@... writes:




Just out of curiosity, what will you be doing that you think requires
SIMPL+?

Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM, <_stefuel@.._st
(mailto:stefuel@ > wrote:

I have found many serial servo controllers to do what I want. I'm
great
with
hardware but not so good with programming which is why Simpl has
worked so
well for me. This project is going to force me to move on to
Simpl+. For
most
of you, this would be a walk in the park. For me it's like
jumping in at
the
deep end with lead shoes on.

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life size

 

i have learned the remote of life size express ,but none of the button
seems to be working at all, can somebody help me in this regards or
somebody out there has a ir file of lifesize and want to share.
thanks in advance

Naveen Anand


Re: Reporting Current program on a touchpanel or roomview

 

One way to do it may be to send a "PROGCOMMENTS" command to the
console, parse the return for the info you want and send that out to
Roomview ...

:Dean

--- In Crestron@..., "dedicatedsystems"
<dedicatedsystems@...> wrote:

i would like to be able to see the current program that is loaded in
a
processor on my roomveiw for my client.

That way if i have to have him load a file in the future i can ask
him to tell me the latest program loaded.

Is this possible? Is there a command i can use in Simpl windows to
send that info to roomview?

What would that be?

i understand how to use the roomview symbol in simpl windows.


Reporting Current program on a touchpanel or roomview

 

i would like to be able to see the current program that is loaded in a
processor on my roomveiw for my client.

That way if i have to have him load a file in the future i can ask
him to tell me the latest program loaded.

Is this possible? Is there a command i can use in Simpl windows to
send that info to roomview?

What would that be?

i understand how to use the roomview symbol in simpl windows.


Re: Instant Message

Matt
 

--- In Crestron@..., "scottjmeller" <scottjmeller@...>
wrote:

Anyone know if instant messaging from a TPMC-8X is possible (AIM,
Yahoo, etc.)? TIA
You might try just using ICQ2G0 in an IE browser, should work.


Re: Instant Message

 

I do know that it has skype on it and I have used that for people and
it works well.

--- In Crestron@..., "scottjmeller" <scottjmeller@...> wrote:

Anyone know if instant messaging from a TPMC-8X is possible (AIM,
Yahoo, etc.)? TIA


Instant Message

scottjmeller
 

Anyone know if instant messaging from a TPMC-8X is possible (AIM,
Yahoo, etc.)? TIA


Re: DMP XR500 Alarm Panel

 

Hey Dean (this is a bit wierd ;)

I'm working on a project with an XR500 also ... I downloaded and
disected the Crestron XR200 module but I also get in touch with DMP
before I got near the site to see what they had to say.

They commented that the Crestron (XR200) module didn't work (I didn't
get any more detail about that) but they were happy to send (courier)
me a copy of thier protocol - after I signed an non-disclosure
agreement (so I can't help you at all with the protocol - sorry).

I've now been on-site with the security guy a few times trying to
figure stuff out and it's been interesting ... unfortunately, I find
all too often that other equipment installers/programmers consider RS-
232 as it's own protocol (I assume that's because they've only ever
been exposed to their own product so the term RS-232 to them is
simply "the" way to communicate with the outside world) so they just
expect that, once you're "connected" (which is another story
altogether), you're just "talking". In my case, I had to do the
research for them 'cause otherwise it wasn't going to happen - they
wanted to use the 232 port on the mainboard and told me that they
couldn't accommodate me - I researched it and found a "462N" card
that allows 232 communications also (tried Ethernet but couldn't
establish comm's - perhaps with more time ...).

So, now I'm finally "connected" and can put the protocol into
action ... I haven't read the whole thing yet (it's a bit of a novel -
like this post ;) ... whenever I "have a connection" to the panel
(which involves the security guy establishing a path to the port), it
spits out something over and over until it times out and then sends
an alarm (communication trouble) to the security panels and the
monitoring station ... I'm sure I just have to read more and figure
out the correct "ack" to send back but I haven't gotten that far - so
everytime I want to test something, I need him on-site and he has to
clear/re-establish every time I test.

There's a lot of information on DMP's website re: the product and
actually programming it but not the 232 protocol.

That's all I can tell you for now, Dean, sorry about the length but
perhaps at least one part might help you out :)

:Dean (I'll be the Dean with the happy face "D"!)


--- In Crestron@..., "ckangis" <chris@...> wrote:

Hi Dean,
If the 500 is anything like the 200 - Run away...Run Away...

Search posts with = DMP XR200
for more details...

HTH,
Chris K..................8-)


--- In Crestron@..., Dean Detton <ddetton@> wrote:

Has anyone integrated the DMP XR500 alarm panel with a Crestron
control
system? If so did you use the DMP XR200 module posted on the
Crestron
Integration Partner web site? I can't seem to find an RS232
interface
option on the DMP web site. I am also interested in your
experience
and
opinion on this panel. Thanks.

--
__________________________
Dean Detton
Prestige Automation, Inc.
Office: 775.853.0930
Fax: 775.853.3107
Mobile: 775.745.0298


Re: Sirius RS232 protocol

Dave Horoschak
 

In addition to Control Works, there's also a module available directly from Crestron.
- Dave


Re: DMP XR500 Alarm Panel

 

Hi Dean,
If the 500 is anything like the 200 - Run away...Run Away...

Search posts with = DMP XR200
for more details...

HTH,
Chris K..................8-)


--- In Crestron@..., Dean Detton <ddetton@...> wrote:

Has anyone integrated the DMP XR500 alarm panel with a Crestron control
system? If so did you use the DMP XR200 module posted on the Crestron
Integration Partner web site? I can't seem to find an RS232 interface
option on the DMP web site. I am also interested in your experience
and
opinion on this panel. Thanks.

--
__________________________
Dean Detton
Prestige Automation, Inc.
Office: 775.853.0930
Fax: 775.853.3107
Mobile: 775.745.0298


Re: Simpl+ Parameters

 

A-Men Brother,,,,,


--- In Crestron@..., "Steve Kaudle" <steve@...> wrote:

The line would look something like:

digital_input _skip_, input1, input2;

Add as many instances of "_skip_" as you have parameters.

The same method can be applied to the output, or you can use the
declaration "#output_shift X", where X is the number of spaces you
want the first output shifted down.

Why there is no "#input_shift" declaration is anybody's guess?

--- In Crestron@..., roomy4545 <roomy4545@> wrote:

So how do you type it?

should it be "digital_input test1"_SKIP_
then parameters (that's how i'm doing it)

or should it be the parameters first then skip then the digital
inputs?


or should the skip then digital parameters...?

Could you show an example


________________________________
From: maxpower68 <maxpower68@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:01:39 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Simpl+ Parameters


Yes se the "_SKIP_" this will drop the digital inputs below the
parameters. This is the only way to do this. It's back ass wards
but
it works.

Max

--- In Crestron@yahoogroup s.com, roomy4545 <roomy4545@ ..> wrote:

Anyone know why with my simpl+ the digital inputs are on the
same
line as parameters (when you look at the symbol in Simpl?). Is
there
a way you are supposed to declare them so i can see the names of
the
digital/serial input names and for the parameters to go at the
bottom
of the symbol.
?
As it stands now, the paraters start at the top of the symbol
and
go down. I tried using the "_SKIP_" to try to create space
between my
input symbols and the parameters.
?
Any help would be appreciated




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Re: Can Crestron send this kind of signal???

Chip Moody
 

Looks like all that does is take positioning commands and puts
attached servos to the appropriate positions. It uses 3 byte
commands, &#92;xFF&#92;xYY&#92;xZZ where YY is the servo number and ZZ is the
position.

Don't think you'd need more than an SIO to drive this puppy...

- Chip


P.S. Looks like a lotta fun...

--- In Crestron@..., stefuel@... wrote:

I'm not actually sure it does require Simpl+ but I'm unsure of how
to get
started and which logic symbol or combination of symbols will do
what I want.
The serial controller I'm looking at
_HTTP://pololu.com/catalog/product/727_
() is what I'm looking at to
control 2
servos. The two servos will be commanded to move to a total of four
positions
within their rotational capacity. The rotational values from full
left to full
right range from 1 to 255. They will counter rotate but work
together so one
will start at position 1 and the other will start from position
255. The
second point for example will be 50 and 205. Anyone care to take a
stab at
telling me how to go about this? Thanks,
Chip


In a message dated 1/11/2009 1:02:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mdelzer@... writes:




Just out of curiosity, what will you be doing that you think requires
SIMPL+?

Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM, <_stefuel@..._
(mailto:stefuel@...) > wrote:

I have found many serial servo controllers to do what I want. I'm
great
with
hardware but not so good with programming which is why Simpl has
worked so
well for me. This project is going to force me to move on to
Simpl+. For
most
of you, this would be a walk in the park. For me it's like
jumping in at
the
deep end with lead shoes on.


Re: Sirius RS232 protocol

 

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure we had to sign an NDA with Sirius to get the protocol.

________________________________________
From: Crestron@... [Crestron@...] On Behalf Of ridogn [steve@...]
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 5:48 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Sirius RS232 protocol

Does anyone happen to have the RS232 protocol for the Sirius branded
tuners? I know Control Works has a module for these units, but I'm
not looking for that much control. THX.


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Sirius RS232 protocol

 

Does anyone happen to have the RS232 protocol for the Sirius branded
tuners? I know Control Works has a module for these units, but I'm
not looking for that much control. THX.


Re: Simpl+ Parameters

 

I remember submitting this as a bug report, I think it was supposed to
be fixed in SIMPL Windows 2.11, but I have not had a chance to try it.

--- In Crestron@..., "maxpower68" <maxpower68@...> wrote:

Yes se the "_SKIP_" this will drop the digital inputs below the
parameters. This is the only way to do this. It's back ass wards but
it works.

Max






--- In Crestron@..., roomy4545 <roomy4545@> wrote:

Anyone know why with my simpl+ the digital inputs are on the same
line as parameters (when you look at the symbol in Simpl?). Is there
a way you are supposed to declare them so i can see the names of the
digital/serial input names and for the parameters to go at the bottom
of the symbol.
?
As it stands now, the paraters start at the top of the symbol and
go down. I tried using the "_SKIP_" to try to create space between my
input symbols and the parameters.
?
Any help would be appreciated




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