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Re: Refining serial I/O

Matt
 

--- In Crestron@..., "slip.cougan" <slip.cougan@...>
wrote:

Take the following senario:
Main zone SIO contains the parameter: Cable&#92;x0D
Secondary SIO zone contains the parameter: Zone 2 Cable&#92;x0D

Now of course both these events will fire if I send: Zone 2
Cable&#92;x0D
This is the expected behaviour from a serial I/O.

Is there a way to make the SIO more choosy? So if I send Zone 2
Cable&#92;x0D it does not trip the main zone event.

Thanks

gary
What's the concept of using the SIO? Are you using serial strings
into the SIO to switch sources from the outputs? Maybe look at using
analog init's instead?


Re: Sierra router control

Matt
 

--- In Crestron@..., "oystein.loland"
<oystein.loland@...> wrote:

I think I found out what the problem is, but I don't have a clue
how to
solve it. (Tried making a new cable also with 2,3 & 5 only, but
didn't
help).

The thing is that the Sierra Crestron module from Crestron sends a
wrong formatting out to the router. The sierra will expect
**X2,5,0!!
but the macro sends this instead **X02,05,0!! So it adds a 0 in
front
of the number. When I try this in terminal from the PC, the first
line
without the zero works as it should, but he second line
generates "Error syntax: Unknown command..."

My question is how do I get rid of the extra zeroes?

Thanks for all input.
The macro is trying to compensate for the tens digit, but I guess the
router doesn't accept a '0' as a valid tens digit. The macro from
crestron only only does crosspoint routing anyway, using an SIO and
you fill in the serial strings manually would probably be faster than
trying to fix the module.


Re: Sierra router control

 

I think I found out what the problem is, but I don't have a clue how to
solve it. (Tried making a new cable also with 2,3 & 5 only, but didn't
help).

The thing is that the Sierra Crestron module from Crestron sends a
wrong formatting out to the router. The sierra will expect **X2,5,0!!
but the macro sends this instead **X02,05,0!! So it adds a 0 in front
of the number. When I try this in terminal from the PC, the first line
without the zero works as it should, but he second line
generates "Error syntax: Unknown command..."

My question is how do I get rid of the extra zeroes?

Thanks for all input.


Re: Screenplay 777 anf Mini 1080P player

 

Hi Lars



This looks like a video setting problem, have you allowed the mini player to
Auto-negotiate with the Projector? As we all know HDMI is not our best
friend at times. What I tend to do when installing Kaleidescape is fix the
video output for the content I have on the server. This then ensures you
will always have the best possible picture on screen. To do this in case you
don¡¯t know go into the installer settings using the friendly URL
My-kaleidescape/installer



Now navigate to components, then select the settings for the player in
Question, the first page that is displayed is the video settings. You will
see four/Five Drop down menus, if this is set to Auto negotiate you should
see ¡®Choose the best setting¡¯ or something similar, can¡¯t remeber the
terminolgy off hand and I¡¯m too lazy to go down and switch my unit on :-).
This means that the player will try to auto negotiate to get the best
picture for either PAL or NTSC content. Set this to the setting that best
suits your projector i.e. 1080i or 1080p. Looking at the Spec¡¯s of your unit
I would go with 1080p. Do this in all of the Drop down menus. To ensure you
cover all possible content.



The reason why the OSD works fine is its native 480p and as such it may be
displaying it at this res and as such tends to work great in every situation
its when you start playing back content that you have issues with certain
devices.



HTH



Iain P

_____

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lars ?slund (Smart Home)
Sent: 26 January 2009 10:44
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Screenplay 777 anf Mini 1080P player



Hi Pros,
have a customer having picture issue connecting a brand new 1080p Mini
Player (kaleidescape)
via HDMI to DVI cable to a Infocus Screenplay 777 proj.
Picture is like snowing when playing movie, ok picture when looking at
userinterface.
... have not seen it by my self.

Anyone have any experiance regarding this?

Will drop a mail to K-scape support aswell.

Regards /Lars
--
Lars ?slund
Uppsala Mediateknik AB - Smarthome
lasse@smarthome. <mailto:lasse%40smarthome.se> se
. <> se <.
<> se/>
+46 709 679050


Screenplay 777 anf Mini 1080P player

 

Hi Pros,
have a customer having picture issue connecting a brand new 1080p Mini Player (kaleidescape)
via HDMI to DVI cable to a Infocus Screenplay 777 proj.
Picture is like snowing when playing movie, ok picture when looking at userinterface.
... have not seen it by my self.

Anyone have any experiance regarding this?

Will drop a mail to K-scape support aswell.

Regards /Lars
--
Lars ?slund
Uppsala Mediateknik AB - Smarthome
lasse@...
<>
+46 709 679050




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Refining serial I/O

slip.cougan
 

Take the following senario:
Main zone SIO contains the parameter: Cable&#92;x0D
Secondary SIO zone contains the parameter: Zone 2 Cable&#92;x0D

Now of course both these events will fire if I send: Zone 2 Cable&#92;x0D
This is the expected behaviour from a serial I/O.

Is there a way to make the SIO more choosy? So if I send Zone 2
Cable&#92;x0D it does not trip the main zone event.

Thanks

gary


Re: Mitsubishi AC and Intesis

 

Tony,
I've not used this Intesis but have used a Procon IP32 Modbus
Interface connected to a G50. That way the A/C system can still be
operated from the G50 if there's any problems with the Intesis or
Crestron systems.

--- In Crestron@..., "Tony Golden" <mrgolden@...> wrote:

Has anyone integrated a Mitsubishi Mr. Slim, or other, A/C system with
the Intesis Modbus box?



The contractor has asked me whether this would be better than using
Mitsubishi's G50 controller.

Thanks in advance, for any input.


Re: Sierra router control

 

Thank you both Matt and Chip Moody.

I should have mentioned that I have no problem talking to the router
via RS-232 from a PC.

I'm using a straight trough cable from the AV2 to the Sierra. Same
kind as I'm using from the PC. Is this normally a problem?

This is my first Crestron project, so I'm learning.

Thanks for all help.



--- In Crestron@..., "Chip Moody" <cfm@...> wrote:


That module should get you some form of action - certainly at
least
a response of some sort from the unit.

Are you seeing a string going out to the box in SIMPL Debugger but
nothing coming back? Any chance you need to swap pins 2 & 3 on your
cable? (Or stick a null-modem adapter inline) Did you make this
cable with just pins 2, 3 & 5 wired, or is this an "off the shelf"
cable? (Most of those will actually cause problems)

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "oystein.loland" <oystein.loland@>
wrote:

Can anyone point me to (or send me) a simple program were
controlling a
Sierra router is involved?

I have a SierraPro XL1204 that doesn't react on the commands I
try to
send it. I have probably missed something but were?

The protocol is on "host protocol" on the router and the bits and
flow
control is set the same on both the com and the Sierra.

I'm using the Sierra Router macro included with Crestron Simpl
Windows.

Any help out there?

Thanks
OL


Re: Instant Message

 

There are web versions of yahoo messenger and the AIM client.
and
You could give them a try.

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:48 AM, scottjmeller <scottjmeller@...>wrote:

Anyone know if instant messaging from a TPMC-8X is possible (AIM,
Yahoo, etc.)? TIA



Re: CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

 

CEN-COM was indeed during the first generation of equipment - X
Generation. You may wish to stick it behind a router to cut traffic
that the thing is seeing, they really didn't handle even moderate
traffic very well.


--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff"
to use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the
eventual idea being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I
can still ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor
from it), and other times it will generate an update request with
every string that it receives from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the
thing more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first
generation" CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which
is too bad, because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful
product].

Lincoln


--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer



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Re: CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

 

The CEN-COM was after and before my time, it came and went while I was on a
brief hiatus from this industry so I was never up on the specs. They pretty
much killed it when the QM-RMC came out. It should be interesting to see if
this fixes your issue or at least improves it.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@...> wrote:

Mark,

It's on a 10/100 switch; but since (AFAIK) all of the early CEN-stuff was
limited to 10/Half you may have a good point.

The SHOW INTERFACES STATUS from the switch (Cisco Catalyst 2920) shows that
it had auto negotiated to 10 meg half duplex, but I'll try forcing the
configuration just to eliminate that as a possibility. (Note to self for
when I need to change it back: interface Fa0/7)

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
Crestron@... <Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mark
Delzer
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:57 PM
To: Crestron@... <Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

Lincoln,

2 Things come to mind. Are you running it on a gig switch? And do you have
it set to auto-negotiate? Try setting it to 100/Full or 10/Full, I've seen
similar issues like this with other Crestron Ethernet stuff.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@... <lincoln%40controlworks.com>> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to
use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual
idea
being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can
still
ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and
other
times it will generate an update request with every string that it
receives
from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the
thing
more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first
generation"
CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad,
because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer






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Re: CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

 

Mark,

It's on a 10/100 switch; but since (AFAIK) all of the early CEN-stuff was limited to 10/Half you may have a good point.

The SHOW INTERFACES STATUS from the switch (Cisco Catalyst 2920) shows that it had auto negotiated to 10 meg half duplex, but I'll try forcing the configuration just to eliminate that as a possibility. (Note to self for when I need to change it back: interface Fa0/7)

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Mark Delzer
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:57 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

Lincoln,

2 Things come to mind. Are you running it on a gig switch? And do you have
it set to auto-negotiate? Try setting it to 100/Full or 10/Full, I've seen
similar issues like this with other Crestron Ethernet stuff.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to
use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual idea
being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can still
ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and other
times it will generate an update request with every string that it receives
from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the thing
more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first generation"
CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad,
because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

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------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

 

Lincoln,

2 Things come to mind. Are you running it on a gig switch? And do you have
it set to auto-negotiate? Try setting it to 100/Full or 10/Full, I've seen
similar issues like this with other Crestron Ethernet stuff.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to
use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual idea
being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can still
ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and other
times it will generate an update request with every string that it receives
from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the thing
more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first generation"
CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad,
because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer





CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

 

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual idea being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can still ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and other times it will generate an update request with every string that it receives from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the thing more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first generation" CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad, because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln


--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


Re: Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

 

I've used both the Advent and the Concord.
I really haven't tried too much with keypad emulation, just real-time feedback.

There was a problem with the GE modules for the Advent a while back, where you'd get double keypad presses, but I think that was cleared up by a member of the Yahoo group (again, cleared up a while back).

Chris

Mark Day wrote:

HAI Omni Pro II, works beautifully
Mark Day's iPhone
!deabox Media Group
T: +1 (702) 332-3156
E:mark@... <mailto:mark%40ideaboxmediagroup.com>
On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "jrc.audiovideo"
<jamesclaflin@... <mailto:jamesclaflin%40hotmail.com>> wrote:

> I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
> trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
> panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
> it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
> panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
> starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
> laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
> within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
> on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
> motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
> well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
> crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
> there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
> text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
> definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
> panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
> instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
> and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
> I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
> with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
> control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
>
>


Re: Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

 

I'm not fond of the Ademcos. Even the HAI is better.

Overall, I still like the GE Advent the best - it gives the best
emulation of the physical system keypad.

The GE NetWorx is genenerally good too, just a little more awkward for
jobs with multiple partitions.


--- In Crestron@..., "jrc.audiovideo" <jamesclaflin@...>
wrote:

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim


Re: Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

Mark Day
 

HAI Omni Pro II, works beautifully

Mark Day's iPhone
!deabox Media Group
T: +1 (702) 332-3156
E:mark@...

On Jan 25, 2009, at 5:20 PM, "jrc.audiovideo"
<jamesclaflin@...> wrote:

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim


Throwing in the towel on Ademco..

 

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend just
trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once motions
and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim


Re: Can Crestron send this kind of signal???

 

That should be a cool project. Let us know how it turns out.

I wish I had a couple of fists full of hair to pull out...

On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:48 PM, <stefuel@...> wrote:
What I'm trying to do is to add variable top and bottom masking to my
existing 4:3 aspect ratio front projection screen. I want to use this serial
servo
controller along with two multi-turn (4 turn) sail winch servos.
The servos will be connected to 1-1/4 dia. rollers that the black felt
masking material will be attached to which will allow me to mask the un-used
portion of the screen when viewing HD material. I have the mechanics of the
project all worked out but it would be a understatement to say that serial
control
is my weak point so I'll take all the advice I can get. My one and only
serial project was about a year ago. It cost me a couple of fists full of
hair and
a couple of weeks to make work. That was to gain control of my APC Smart UPS
that in my HT equipment rack. Are there easier ways to get some of my
projects done? Sure but this is how I learn.


In a message dated 1/24/2009 7:56:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cfm@...
writes:

Looks like all that does is take positioning commands and puts
attached servos to the appropriate positions. It uses 3 byte
commands, &#92;xFF&#92;xYY&#92;xZZ where YY is the servo number and ZZ is the
position.

Don't think you'd need more than an SIO to drive this puppy...

- Chip

P.S. Looks like a lotta fun...

--- In _Crestron@yahoogroupCrest_ (mailto:Crestron@...) ,
stefuel@... wrote:

I'm not actually sure it does require Simpl+ but I'm unsure of how
to get
started and which logic symbol or combination of symbols will do
what I want.
The serial controller I'm looking at
__HTTP://pololu.HTTP://pololHTTP://polol_
()
(_
() ) is what I'm looking at to
control 2
servos. The two servos will be commanded to move to a total of four
positions
within their rotational capacity. The rotational values from full
left to full
right range from 1 to 255. They will counter rotate but work
together so one
will start at position 1 and the other will start from position
255. The
second point for example will be 50 and 205. Anyone care to take a
stab at
telling me how to go about this? Thanks,
Chip


In a message dated 1/11/2009 1:02:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
mdelzer@... writes:




Just out of curiosity, what will you be doing that you think requires
SIMPL+?

Mark

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:29 PM, <_stefuel@.._st
(mailto:stefuel@ > wrote:

I have found many serial servo controllers to do what I want. I'm
great
with
hardware but not so good with programming which is why Simpl has
worked so
well for me. This project is going to force me to move on to
Simpl+. For
most
of you, this would be a walk in the park. For me it's like
jumping in at
the
deep end with lead shoes on.

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life size

 

i have learned the remote of life size express ,but none of the button
seems to be working at all, can somebody help me in this regards or
somebody out there has a ir file of lifesize and want to share.
thanks in advance

Naveen Anand