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Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12 touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start. I've never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into the roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for a completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

Not to add fuel to the fire but on some level I agree with Patrick.
Certification should be hard to obtain and you should have to prove your
capability in all faculties and applications in our industry.

That being said, it's not practically possible to accomplish that for
virtually anyone. This is not an industry where you can walk in off the
street and get into. You typically have to work for a dealer who is in a
certain market segment and learn that way. You often only get exposed to
one market.

When I did my certification exam I had only done one commercial system
that was more like a home theatre than a boardroom. However, I put in the
hard work and due diligence to understand the commercial aspects and scope
of the test because I knew that I needed to understand in order to be
certified.

What I would ask is that anyone taking their exam needs to respect the
process those of us already certified went through and only ask conceptual
questions. We'll be happy to answer.

Ask us how and why roomview is used and what the application for panel to
help desk messaging might be. Once you can grasp an understanding of this
it will be easier for you to figure out how to accomplish it on your own.

I won't spoon feed you the questions because the most important part of
learning is to know how to formulate a question to get the answer you need.
Don't be afraid to tell us what you already understand and what you are
confused or curious about. If you ask I, and I'm sure others will gladly
answer.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-12, at 8:06 PM, Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...> wrote:

In the future, if you've got a problem with someone, reply to them off

the

list, or ask a moderator to step in. The bottom line is that Patrick
simply offered his opinion which he's allowed to do here - IMO he did
nothing wrong (note that that doesn't mean that I share his opinion).
Personal attacks are not allowed here, period. As far as deleting the
thread, you may be able to delete your posts, but only moderators can
delete other people's posts.

Geoff

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Geoff,

I usually get great responses on this message board and in general
everyone is usually helpful. Patrick was the exception and I was really

put

off by his comments.

I'm just going to delete this entire thread. Nothing in this message
thread is helpful to the overall community.

Thanks,
Doug

--- In Crestron@... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...>

wrote:

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. Attack the post, NOT

the

poster.

Patrick - there's no reason to assume that everyone posting here works

on

commercial projects. There are a lot of residential guys here too.

Geoff (donning his moderator hat)

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible -

you're

an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that

I'm

learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah,

but

I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious

response to

my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you

decide to

put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',

'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner.

Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified"

still

carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or

not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you

had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial.

Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',

'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of

the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to

start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built

into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started,

it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking

for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

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A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

I'm still using a old cnmsxpro to run my theater. I know the original
cnxenet won't work with it but the later "+" version which I have has
much more funtionality. I'm planning to build a big server to rip all
my dvd's and bd's to so I can rid my self of the stack of 400 disc
changers that I have. MCE controller won't be of much use if the pro's
ethernet card can't do it.

In the future, if you've got a problem with someone, reply to them off the
list, or ask a moderator to step in. The bottom line is that Patrick
simply offered his opinion which he's allowed to do here - IMO he did
nothing wrong (note that that doesn't mean that I share his opinion).
Personal attacks are not allowed here, period. As far as deleting the
thread, you may be able to delete your posts, but only moderators can
delete other people's posts.

Geoff

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Geoff,

I usually get great responses on this message board and in general
everyone is usually helpful. Patrick was the exception and I was really put
off by his comments.

I'm just going to delete this entire thread. Nothing in this message
thread is helpful to the overall community.

Thanks,
Doug

--- In Crestron@... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, Geoffrey Reynolds <greynlds@...> wrote:

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. Attack the post, NOT the
poster.

Patrick - there's no reason to assume that everyone posting here works on
commercial projects. There are a lot of residential guys here too.

Geoff (donning his moderator hat)

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible -

you're

an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that

I'm

learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah,

but

I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious

response to

my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you

decide to

put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',

'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner.

Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified"

still

carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or

not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you

had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial.

Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@... <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',

'Crestron%40yahoogroups.com');>, "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of

the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to

start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built

into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started,

it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking

for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

Personal attacks are not allowed on this forum. Attack the post, NOT the
poster.

Patrick - there's no reason to assume that everyone posting here works on
commercial projects. There are a lot of residential guys here too.

Geoff (donning his moderator hat)

On Sunday, May 12, 2013, doug4684 wrote:

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible - you're
an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that I'm
learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah, but
I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious response to
my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you decide to
put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@..., Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible - you're
an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that I'm
learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah, but
I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious response to
my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you decide to
put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@..., Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@...> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

**


Patrick,

Take what I am about to say in the most helpful manner possible - you're
an ass and what you wrote was in fact very rude.

I had a long response written explaining that I'm a resi guy and that I'm
learning Roomview strictly for the certification exam, blah blah blah, but
I decided it wasn't worth my time to reply to your pretentious response to
my simple question. It's disappointing to know that guys like you decide to
put down fellow programmers rather than simply not reply or take the 2
minutes to point someone in the right direction.

Doug

--- In Crestron@..., Phil Bridges <gravityhammer@...> wrote:

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely

not

trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done

roomview"

= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had

done

a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then

come

back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any

experience

integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start.

I've

never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into

the

roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for

a

completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Are you saying that people that have only done residential systems
shouldn't be certified?


On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely not
trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done roomview"
= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had done
a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then come
back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience
integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start. I've
never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into the
roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for a
completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

**


Doug - please take what I say in the most helpful manner. Definitely not
trying to be rude, but trying to make sure that "being certified" still
carries weight and has some meaning.

There was one thing you said that really stood out.


"I've never done a roomview system before"

Roomview is a staple of commercial programming. IMO, "never done roomview"
= shouldn't be able to be certified whether a test is passed or not.

Go out and do a roomview system. Figure out how it works. If you had done
a roomview system the answer to this question would be trivial. Then come
back next year and try for the certification.

Thanks,

Patrick


--- In Crestron@..., "doug4684" <doug@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the

programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12
touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience
integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start. I've
never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into the
roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it

would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for a
completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I'm working on the new certification test and basically one of the programs you have to be able to message back and forth from a V12 touchpanel to the helpdesk. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experience integrating this in a touchpanel. I'm not quite sure where to start. I've never done a roomview system before. Is that functionality built into the roomview software/module.

If someone could point me in the right direction to get started, it would be a big help. I need to learn this stuff so I'm not looking for a completed program, just some general help/tips to get started.

Thanks!

What are the alternative to Crestron for full HD distribution, when the budget is tight?

4x4, 8x8 or 16x16


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Thanks -- apparently I need to refresh my memory of the "Anticipator"'s function -- Cool was at 6 [though I swear, other than FW updates I haven't touched the state since it was installed.

I knocked it down a bit and the frequency of cool calls has dropped -- but of course, today everything is overcast and relatively cool anyway so it's hard to be positive...

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Brian Gross
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 6:15 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CHV-TSTAT force "extended" run times?

If I recall correctly, there are heating and cooling 'anticipators' in the setup screen on the tstat. Sounds like the cooling one may be set a bit too aggressively.

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

So my house has started running "cool" cycles for the year and I'm noticing that the cycle times seem much shorter and more frequently than prior years and actually if I look at the temps the temp is 1-2 degrees above the setpoint within a few seconds of the cool cycle ending. (I can't say I've ever noticed that before - but cycle times haven't bothered me before either)

The TSTAT is admittedly not in a great place -- it's where the HVAC contractor/prior owner put the old school Honeywell stat - but since all of the other walls on this floor are either exterior, a common wall with my next door neighbor, or have a fireplace/plasma on them I can't really do much better. (Also: Whomever designed the HVAC system was, IMO, smoking crack - there's only one return in the house and it's on the first floor of a 3-story townhome)

Is there any way to force the TSTAT to make the cool call longer / reduce the number of cycles? I'd much rather a longer cool cycle and have it overshoot the setpoint by a degree or five than have it firing every 10 minutes or so.

Or am I barking up the wrong tree in the first place?

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links