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Re: OT: When does (32873*65535)/45023 = 17990?

Witmarquzot Dyrjuv
 

append, it should be "When the product of you multiple numbers are greater than 2147483647 in Simpl+"

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot Dyrjuv" <tdurrant420@...> wrote:

If you answered, "When using simpl+", you would be right.

you have to store (32873*65535) as a Long_Integer before you divide.

else it gives you -47545(aka 17990)


OT: When does (32873*65535)/45023 = 17990?

Witmarquzot Dyrjuv
 

If you answered, "When using simpl+", you would be right.

you have to store (32873*65535) as a Long_Integer before you divide.

else it gives you -47545(aka 17990)


Re: OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232

Trey Chamrad - Hometunes
 

my home LG 60PK550 has what you are asking about through RS232, I am
controlling it that way now.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Anthony Desimone
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:56 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232





Well LG is the make of plasma with 232 I've had good experiences with. Can't
recommend a specific model in that 5" range though.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Pat
B" <PATB93@...> wrote:

I know other companies make plasmas - I was hoping to get a specific
make/model that someone has used successfully.

Thanks again.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@> wrote:

LG?

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"Pat B" <PATB93@> wrote:

I have a client that hates LCDs, loves plasmas. Tells me he wants one
of the cheap entry level Panasonic 65" plasmas because he loves the picture.
But also wants discrete input select, direct channel selection from the
built in tuner and discrete power on/off - all without RS-232. Balked when I
suggested the Panasonic that actually has RS-232 to be able to implement all
of those features because it cost quite a bit more.

Now he has asked if there is any other control system other than
Crestron that will give those features - seems to think that Crestron
"needs" RS-232 and another cheap control system <URC, RTI, etc> won't need
RS-232 to to do everything he wants. I'm sticking with Crestron so my other
option is to find a cheaper plasma with RS-232.

Anyone use another plasma sized 60"-65" that has RS-232 support and a
built-in off air tuner?


Re: OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232

Anthony Desimone
 

Well LG is the make of plasma with 232 I've had good experiences with. Can't recommend a specific model in that 5" range though.

--- In Crestron@..., "Pat B" <PATB93@...> wrote:

I know other companies make plasmas - I was hoping to get a specific make/model that someone has used successfully.

Thanks again.

--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@> wrote:

LG?

--- In Crestron@..., "Pat B" <PATB93@> wrote:

I have a client that hates LCDs, loves plasmas. Tells me he wants one of the cheap entry level Panasonic 65" plasmas because he loves the picture. But also wants discrete input select, direct channel selection from the built in tuner and discrete power on/off - all without RS-232. Balked when I suggested the Panasonic that actually has RS-232 to be able to implement all of those features because it cost quite a bit more.

Now he has asked if there is any other control system other than Crestron that will give those features - seems to think that Crestron "needs" RS-232 and another cheap control system <URC, RTI, etc> won't need RS-232 to to do everything he wants. I'm sticking with Crestron so my other option is to find a cheaper plasma with RS-232.

Anyone use another plasma sized 60"-65" that has RS-232 support and a built-in off air tuner?


Re: OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232

 

I know other companies make plasmas - I was hoping to get a specific make/model that someone has used successfully.

Thanks again.

--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

LG?

--- In Crestron@..., "Pat B" <PATB93@> wrote:

I have a client that hates LCDs, loves plasmas. Tells me he wants one of the cheap entry level Panasonic 65" plasmas because he loves the picture. But also wants discrete input select, direct channel selection from the built in tuner and discrete power on/off - all without RS-232. Balked when I suggested the Panasonic that actually has RS-232 to be able to implement all of those features because it cost quite a bit more.

Now he has asked if there is any other control system other than Crestron that will give those features - seems to think that Crestron "needs" RS-232 and another cheap control system <URC, RTI, etc> won't need RS-232 to to do everything he wants. I'm sticking with Crestron so my other option is to find a cheaper plasma with RS-232.

Anyone use another plasma sized 60"-65" that has RS-232 support and a built-in off air tuner?


Re: OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232

Witmarquzot Dyrjuv
 

the pannys have discrete ir

--- In Crestron@..., "Pat B" <PATB93@...> wrote:

I have a client that hates LCDs, loves plasmas. Tells me he wants one of the cheap entry level Panasonic 65" plasmas because he loves the picture. But also wants discrete input select, direct channel selection from the built in tuner and discrete power on/off - all without RS-232. Balked when I suggested the Panasonic that actually has RS-232 to be able to implement all of those features because it cost quite a bit more.

Now he has asked if there is any other control system other than Crestron that will give those features - seems to think that Crestron "needs" RS-232 and another cheap control system <URC, RTI, etc> won't need RS-232 to to do everything he wants. I'm sticking with Crestron so my other option is to find a cheaper plasma with RS-232.

Anyone use another plasma sized 60"-65" that has RS-232 support and a built-in off air tuner?


Re: OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232

Anthony Desimone
 

LG?

--- In Crestron@..., "Pat B" <PATB93@...> wrote:

I have a client that hates LCDs, loves plasmas. Tells me he wants one of the cheap entry level Panasonic 65" plasmas because he loves the picture. But also wants discrete input select, direct channel selection from the built in tuner and discrete power on/off - all without RS-232. Balked when I suggested the Panasonic that actually has RS-232 to be able to implement all of those features because it cost quite a bit more.

Now he has asked if there is any other control system other than Crestron that will give those features - seems to think that Crestron "needs" RS-232 and another cheap control system <URC, RTI, etc> won't need RS-232 to to do everything he wants. I'm sticking with Crestron so my other option is to find a cheaper plasma with RS-232.

Anyone use another plasma sized 60"-65" that has RS-232 support and a built-in off air tuner?


Re: OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232

 

LG?

On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Pat B <PATB93@...> wrote:

**


I have a client that hates LCDs, loves plasmas. Tells me he wants one of
the cheap entry level Panasonic 65" plasmas because he loves the picture.
But also wants discrete input select, direct channel selection from the
built in tuner and discrete power on/off - all without RS-232. Balked when
I suggested the Panasonic that actually has RS-232 to be able to implement
all of those features because it cost quite a bit more.

Now he has asked if there is any other control system other than Crestron
that will give those features - seems to think that Crestron "needs" RS-232
and another cheap control system <URC, RTI, etc> won't need RS-232 to to do
everything he wants. I'm sticking with Crestron so my other option is to
find a cheaper plasma with RS-232.

Anyone use another plasma sized 60"-65" that has RS-232 support and a
built-in off air tuner?



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


OT: Looking for 60" - 65" plasma with RS-232

 

I have a client that hates LCDs, loves plasmas. Tells me he wants one of the cheap entry level Panasonic 65" plasmas because he loves the picture. But also wants discrete input select, direct channel selection from the built in tuner and discrete power on/off - all without RS-232. Balked when I suggested the Panasonic that actually has RS-232 to be able to implement all of those features because it cost quite a bit more.

Now he has asked if there is any other control system other than Crestron that will give those features - seems to think that Crestron "needs" RS-232 and another cheap control system <URC, RTI, etc> won't need RS-232 to to do everything he wants. I'm sticking with Crestron so my other option is to find a cheaper plasma with RS-232.

Anyone use another plasma sized 60"-65" that has RS-232 support and a built-in off air tuner?


Re: Biamp Audia help

Chris Flanagan
 

Just to clarify to everyone.

The only ID that can be replaced with an ASCII string is the Instance ID with an Instance ID Tag. If you lagel the channels in the software it does NOT replace the index values in the Audia Text Protocol strings. You MUST still utilize the channel number for the Index 1 values, or the input and output numbers of a matrix, router, or mixer, for Indices 1 and 2.

Please feel free to shoot me an email if anyone has any questions about our control protocol. Feel free to shoot it through the group too and I'll respond as soon as I get it.

Chris

Chris Flanagan * Applications Engineer
Biamp Systems * 9300 SW Gemini Drive, Beaverton, OR 97008
www.biamp.com<> * tel. +1.503.641.7287 * dir. +1.503.718.9173 * fax +1.503.626.0281


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Re: Biamp Audia help

Chip
 

I've never used channel labeling - others here have had problems with it, which I've never had a problem just referencing the instance ID...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@...> wrote:

thanks for the stupid question... turns out i had the serial ports mixed up on AV2, briht side is now the tandberg VC works as well! so embarrassed. still need to understand channel lableling tho. Thanks


Re: Biamp Audia help

 

thanks for the stupid question... turns out i had the serial ports mixed up on AV2, briht side is now the tandberg VC works as well! so embarrassed. still need to understand channel lableling tho. Thanks

--- In Crestron@..., "alanrook@..." <arook@...> wrote:

When you label a block in Audia using Channel Identifier it takes the place of the instance ID. What type of a block are you controlling with "OUTLVL"? I am assuming this is to control a fader level so the string would be "GETD 1 FDRLVL 21 1&#92;x0D&#92;x0A"

Spend a little more time with the Biamp Protocol available in Audia in the Help drop down, or hit F1.

--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@> wrote:

added biamp to system, serial control, cable is correct. when commands go out to audia it returns "command not recognized" from device. I am sending GET D 1 OUTLVL 21 . I am not sure about the addressing of controls within audia, when i look at audia prperty sheet for this control, it is labeled Control2, with DSP attributes 1 listed as:

allocated to unit 1
instance id 21
level label master

so in module I chose to label it

I/O output level
volume deve=ice id 1
volume device instance 21
volume index1 master
volume index2 0

where am i going wrong?


Re: Biamp Audia help

 

Agreed, I think you are probably using a FDRLVL if it is ganged. Chris also caught the GET D syntax mistake.

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:


If it's a ganged level control, you'd be looking for FDRLVL. If it's the master level output of a standard mixer, it's SMLVLOUT.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@> wrote:

aiming for a 4 gang control after a mixer,(labeled Control2) using 7.4 crestron module

--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@> wrote:

added biamp to system, serial control, cable is correct. when commands go out to audia it returns "command not recognized" from device. I am sending GET D 1 OUTLVL 21 . I am not sure about the addressing of controls within audia, when i look at audia prperty sheet for this control, it is labeled Control2, with DSP attributes 1 listed as:

allocated to unit 1
instance id 21
level label master

so in module I chose to label it

I/O output level
volume deve=ice id 1
volume device instance 21
volume index1 master
volume index2 0

where am i going wrong?


Re: Biamp Audia help

Chip
 

If it's a ganged level control, you'd be looking for FDRLVL. If it's the master level output of a standard mixer, it's SMLVLOUT.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@...> wrote:

aiming for a 4 gang control after a mixer,(labeled Control2) using 7.4 crestron module

--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@> wrote:

added biamp to system, serial control, cable is correct. when commands go out to audia it returns "command not recognized" from device. I am sending GET D 1 OUTLVL 21 . I am not sure about the addressing of controls within audia, when i look at audia prperty sheet for this control, it is labeled Control2, with DSP attributes 1 listed as:

allocated to unit 1
instance id 21
level label master

so in module I chose to label it

I/O output level
volume deve=ice id 1
volume device instance 21
volume index1 master
volume index2 0

where am i going wrong?


Re: Biamp Audia help

 

Should be GETD, and the label applies to the instance ID not a specific IO of the block. So instead of instance ID 21 you would type Master in the instance ID field. You have to use the real values for the index1/2.

--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@...> wrote:

added biamp to system, serial control, cable is correct. when commands go out to audia it returns "command not recognized" from device. I am sending GET D 1 OUTLVL 21 . I am not sure about the addressing of controls within audia, when i look at audia prperty sheet for this control, it is labeled Control2, with DSP attributes 1 listed as:

allocated to unit 1
instance id 21
level label master

so in module I chose to label it

I/O output level
volume deve=ice id 1
volume device instance 21
volume index1 master
volume index2 0

where am i going wrong?


Re: Biamp Audia help

Tim F
 

Whenever I talk to Biamp, I have not used "volume index1 master" I would use "1" for the first level control.

You can replace the Instance ID tag with Master, but this does not work 100% of the time.

Tim F



________________________________
From: Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>
To: "'Crestron@...'" <Crestron@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Biamp Audia help


?
Ok this is a stupid question but are you sure that the serial cable is connected to the correct device e.g. that what you think is connected to Port X on the processor is actually on Port X and not Port Y?

"command not recognized" not is the syntax I would expect from a Biamp reporting an error.

Some the errors I /would/ expect look like

-ERR:SYNTAX
or
-ERR:INVALID SVC

If you just feed the BIAMP garbage with a carriage return you'll get the "-ERR:INVALID SVC" variety.

If you feed it a command formatted validly that's not applicable to object you'll get the "-ERR:SYNTAX" variety.

For example with the Audia in our office:

TX: gdf&#92;x0D&#92;x0A
RX: -ERR:SYNTAX
TX: GETD 1 OUTLVL 21&#92;x0D&#92;x0A (instance ID 21 doesn't have an output level control)
RX: #GETD 1 OUTLVL 21 -ERR:SYNTAX
TX: GETD 3 OUTLVL 21&#92;x0D&#92;x0A (instance ID 21 doesn't have an output level control, nor is there a Unit #3)
RX: #GETD 3 OUTLVL 21 -ERR:SYNTAX

Lincoln

--
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Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:17 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Biamp Audia help

If I'm not mistaken, OUTLVL only applies to analog output blocks - is that the object in the DSP file you're trying to adjust? Otherwise, you need to look in the Audia help file for the command name specific to the object you're trying to control.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@...> wrote:

added biamp to system, serial control, cable is correct. when commands go out to audia it returns "command not recognized" from device. I am sending GET D 1 OUTLVL 21 . I am not sure about the addressing of controls within audia, when i look at audia prperty sheet for this control, it is labeled Control2, with DSP attributes 1 listed as:

allocated to unit 1
instance id 21
level label master

so in module I chose to label it

I/O output level
volume deve=ice id 1
volume device instance 21
volume index1 master
volume index2 0

where am i going wrong?
------------------------------------



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Re: Anyone have word on Crestron Tesira modules?

Chris Flanagan
 

They have been submitted to Crestron and are awaiting acceptance. We will hopefully know soon as to what needs to be fixed and resubmitted.

Chris Flanagan * Applications Engineer
Biamp Systems * 9300 SW Gemini Drive, Beaverton, OR 97008
www.biamp.com<> * tel. +1.503.641.7287 * dir. +1.503.718.9173 * fax +1.503.626.0281


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Re: Biamp Audia help

 

Ok this is a stupid question but are you sure that the serial cable is connected to the correct device e.g. that what you think is connected to Port X on the processor is actually on Port X and not Port Y?

"command not recognized" not is the syntax I would expect from a Biamp reporting an error.

Some the errors I /would/ expect look like

-ERR:SYNTAX
or
-ERR:INVALID SVC

If you just feed the BIAMP garbage with a carriage return you'll get the "-ERR:INVALID SVC" variety.

If you feed it a command formatted validly that's not applicable to object you'll get the "-ERR:SYNTAX" variety.

For example with the Audia in our office:

TX: gdf&#92;x0D&#92;x0A
RX: -ERR:SYNTAX
TX: GETD 1 OUTLVL 21&#92;x0D&#92;x0A (instance ID 21 doesn't have an output level control)
RX: #GETD 1 OUTLVL 21 -ERR:SYNTAX
TX: GETD 3 OUTLVL 21&#92;x0D&#92;x0A (instance ID 21 doesn't have an output level control, nor is there a Unit #3)
RX: #GETD 3 OUTLVL 21 -ERR:SYNTAX

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:17 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Biamp Audia help


If I'm not mistaken, OUTLVL only applies to analog output blocks - is that the object in the DSP file you're trying to adjust? Otherwise, you need to look in the Audia help file for the command name specific to the object you're trying to control.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "mudzone2000" <mudzone2000@...> wrote:

added biamp to system, serial control, cable is correct. when commands go out to audia it returns "command not recognized" from device. I am sending GET D 1 OUTLVL 21 . I am not sure about the addressing of controls within audia, when i look at audia prperty sheet for this control, it is labeled Control2, with DSP attributes 1 listed as:

allocated to unit 1
instance id 21
level label master

so in module I chose to label it

I/O output level
volume deve=ice id 1
volume device instance 21
volume index1 master
volume index2 0

where am i going wrong?



------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: Biamp Audia help

Chris Flanagan
 

Your command is almost correct. Remove the space between GET and D so that it reads GETD. You also need to specify the channel number after the instance ID number. The full command should read:

GETD 1 OUTLVL 21 3 /x0a

That command will give you a "full path response" that will look like:

#GETD 1 OUTLVL 21 3 -23.234555

If you are asking for the volume of channel 3. It will always respond with a 6 decimal place value.

Are you using the modules? They form those strings for you if you are.

Let me know if you need additional help.

Chris

Chris Flanagan * Applications Engineer
Biamp Systems * 9300 SW Gemini Drive, Beaverton, OR 97008
www.biamp.com<> * tel. +1.503.641.7287 * dir. +1.503.718.9173 * fax +1.503.626.0281


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Re: Module Editing

 

Probably one of the bugs in parameter handling

If you define a parameter as string type, and then select the "value list" option to restrict the possible settings, you will get a message like this if you try to use it (or edit a symbol using it) in partial substitution format.

The thing to do is: mark the parameter in Argument Definition and select "allow all values" instead of "value list" (? I forget exactly what it's called). Then **DO NOT CLOSE** the Argument Definition details (you can minimize it) - the list of values will be lost, and you will spend time typing it back or loading an older version. Anyway, make your changes and then set it back to "value list".

I reported it to Crestron, they said it's a problem with my code structures :-)

-noob

--- In Crestron@..., "paultunks@..." <paul.tunks31@...> wrote:

I have an LG TV module that I am trying to edit the serial strings on the SIO but I am getting a popup "INVALID ENTRY This is a Reference parameter and the matching parameter in this macro's Argument Definition does not support the type required by this parameter. (For more info, refer to the status bar or right click on this parameter and View the defined properties)

How can I edit the serial strings within the module?