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Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

 

You could always teach the wife to fix it :)

Very early in my relationship with my girlfriend she learned what SIMPLWindows was and basic digital logic (she wanted to know what I did all day so...)

She no longer thinks my house hates her (though she still thinks it's semi-sentient) and has never actually used SIMPL Windows but if there was a bug that annoyed her enough I'm sure it would get fixed.

SIMPL+ is still off in the horizon but...

(She studied Art History and Art Conservation and works for a museum so it's not like she has a programming background... but she's damn smart)

Lincoln
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ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:29 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

The real lesson to be learned here is: Don't learn crosspoints on anything
that your wife might be using! Better yet, don't develop anything on it.
;-)

(I always do changes on a secondary room and when I'm convinced that the
new stuff won't get me an angry wife-call in the middle of the work day,
I'll load it to the other rooms. Been there.)

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM, timfauser <tsfauser@...> wrote:

**


Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system
(fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One
Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on
Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d
(was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come
out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I
try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking
for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F







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Re: AES & GLS-OIR-C-450

georgeskhs
 

Thanks for the replies.

I'm using SB. I tried using inputs 1-4 but it didn't work. I'm using the cresnet bus to power the devices. I know the programming is good, because if I short manually the ports, lights turn on.

I had done something similar at another client's house. It was with a PAC2 (albeit in D3). Only difference I see is that the PAC2 has versiports and in the GLS-OIR-C-450 manual, it specifically requires versiports.

I'm thinking I need a relay that would convert the output of the GLS-OIR-C-450 to a dry contact. Or just use some GLS-SIM. Unless someone has another idea!

--- In Crestron@..., Tray Schaeffer <trayschaeffer@...> wrote:

I know D3 allows a generic digital input (look under devices). Tie that to the AES digital input and it should work.
Make sure you have a power supply for the sensor. Typically, the GLS-SIM provides sensor power, since there is no SIM you may need to get another source of power to the sensor.

Tray

==

From: Witmarquzot
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: AES & GLS-OIR-C-450


AES has inputs 1-4, those will work for what you want.
I do not know if the AES in SB will let you input it though.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, "georgeskhs" <georges.khalil@> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a client with a AES (programmed in SB). He now wants to add motion sensors.

My question to you is : Will the GLS-OIR-C-450 work with the AES? The AES doesn't have versiports and the GLS-OIR-C-450 requires one.

If not, would there be a cheaper solution that adding GLS-SIM modules?


Thanks.
Re: AES & GLS-OIR-C-450

 

I know D3 allows a generic digital input (look under devices). Tie that to the AES digital input and it should work.
Make sure you have a power supply for the sensor. Typically, the GLS-SIM provides sensor power, since there is no SIM you may need to get another source of power to the sensor.

Tray

==

From: Witmarquzot
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: AES & GLS-OIR-C-450


AES has inputs 1-4, those will work for what you want.
I do not know if the AES in SB will let you input it though.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, "georgeskhs" <georges.khalil@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a client with a AES (programmed in SB). He now wants to add motion sensors.

My question to you is : Will the GLS-OIR-C-450 work with the AES? The AES doesn't have versiports and the GLS-OIR-C-450 requires one.

If not, would there be a cheaper solution that adding GLS-SIM modules?


Thanks.
Re: AES & GLS-OIR-C-450

Witmarquzot
 

AES has inputs 1-4, those will work for what you want.
I do not know if the AES in SB will let you input it though.

--- In Crestron@..., "georgeskhs" <georges.khalil@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have a client with a AES (programmed in SB). He now wants to add motion sensors.

My question to you is : Will the GLS-OIR-C-450 work with the AES? The AES doesn't have versiports and the GLS-OIR-C-450 requires one.

If not, would there be a cheaper solution that adding GLS-SIM modules?


Thanks.
Re: RUNCO LS-5 PROJECTOR 232

 

There is a space between ky and the command, then a period between the command and the function. Then a character return (&#92;r) after each command.

Power OFF = ky pow.off
Power ON = ky pow.on
Input 1 = ky src.1
Aspect = ky asp.sw

then use &#92;r in the delimiter area

-Kevin Keenan

On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:49 AM, pearce.bruce wrote:

Hi All

Im on site and trying to get this projector to work
The manual gives me an example of
ky <keyname>[CR]

ky for key commands or op for operation commands
so im sending POWOFF&#92;x0a&#92;x0d
i get a response but not the right one and the projector refuses to work
The manual im reading from is


any ideas would be great

Bruce




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AES & GLS-OIR-C-450

georgeskhs
 

Hi all,

I have a client with a AES (programmed in SB). He now wants to add motion sensors.

My question to you is : Will the GLS-OIR-C-450 work with the AES? The AES doesn't have versiports and the GLS-OIR-C-450 requires one.

If not, would there be a cheaper solution that adding GLS-SIM modules?


Thanks.
Re: RUNCO LS-5 PROJECTOR 232

 

I posted a module for the LS-3/5 in the files section a few years back.
Try that.

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:49 AM, pearce.bruce <bruceadsl@...> wrote:

**


Hi All

Im on site and trying to get this projector to work
The manual gives me an example of
ky <keyname>[CR]

ky for key commands or op for operation commands
so im sending POWOFF&#92;x0a&#92;x0d
i get a response but not the right one and the projector refuses to work
The manual im reading from is


any ideas would be great

Bruce
RUNCO LS-5 PROJECTOR 232

pearce.bruce
 

Hi All

Im on site and trying to get this projector to work
The manual gives me an example of
ky <keyname>[CR]

ky for key commands or op for operation commands
so im sending POWOFF&#92;x0a&#92;x0d
i get a response but not the right one and the projector refuses to work
The manual im reading from is


any ideas would be great

Bruce
Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

 

That's why a lot of use multiple crosspoint connect symbols, normally one for each touch panel, that way you just leave the panel connect and change equipment. Although, disconnect all disconnects EVERY symbol, just not the one you pulse it on. Thus the warning, I believe.

--- In Crestron@..., "jgreenink16" <jgreenink16@...> wrote:

I was about to call hogwash on that, but as it turns out, my disconnect_all actually connects to DiscFromC. I find that one very handy, and probably the one he wants. I find that much easier than trying to remember which device was connected previously.

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@> wrote:

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.脗听 I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.脗听 1, to 101.脗听



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


脗听
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F



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Re: Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.

 

Thanks Tray!

Erik, it's for an aquaculture investigation center.
Re: Sort of OT: Seamless WiFi roaming?

 

This wasn't the virtual cell system that they sell, but a micro cell system? I didn't realize they had a microcell system with a controller available. Or maybe I'm confused as to how the virtual cell system would show up on a wifi scan.

--- In Crestron@..., "jgreenink16" <jgreenink16@...> wrote:

I've put in a Pakedge microcell network with 3 waps (not a huge system, I'll admit), but it's incredibly stable. I can download a file continuously while walking from corner to corner of the place with some pretty bad interference from neighboring wifi. I haven't heard a single complaint about iPad connections, but I didn't do the crestron program there, just the network. I assume it's pretty good based on my laptop testing.

You set it up via the controller once, but yes, the waps show up on different channels with the same SSID if you do a wifi scan.

I've also seen some Netgear stuff advertise wireless management and they have a controller to go with it, but I can only imagine the pita the setup might be. The Pakedge setup is relatively simple and their tech support is really good.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@> wrote:

I guess this isn't really OT since networking and WiFi seems to be half of what we all do these days...

I'm looking for a wireless system (WAPs and controller) that can solve the "sticky WAP" syndrome where a wireless device will hang on to a weak WAP until it has totally lost signal before moving to a new, stronger WAP.

It seems that most of the controllers out there, like Ruckus and others, make configuring an array of WAPs much easier, potentially even automatic, but they still appear as individual WAPs to the client, setup on different channels with the same SSID. Am I correct?

The only thing I have come across that claims to solve this problem is from Meru (and Pakedge, which appears to re-badge the Meru product) with their "Virtual Cell" technology, but I haven't used either system yet. Does anyone have any experience with the Meru or Pakedge controllers, or is there something else out there that works like it?

Thanks,

-David
Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

Heath Volmer
 

The real lesson to be learned here is: Don't learn crosspoints on anything
that your wife might be using! Better yet, don't develop anything on it.
;-)

(I always do changes on a secondary room and when I'm convinced that the
new stuff won't get me an angry wife-call in the middle of the work day,
I'll load it to the other rooms. Been there.)

On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:46 PM, timfauser <tsfauser@...> wrote:

**


Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system
(fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One
Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on
Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d
(was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come
out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I
try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking
for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F



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Re: Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.

erikm_101
 

Sounds like you are programming for an "enhanced" interrogation area - keep them terrorists of kilter with weird light schedules.

--- In Crestron@..., "javiermazon_com" <javier@...> wrote:

Hi!

I'm programming a system that has some special needs. User need to be able to simulate light scenarios of different GPS positions and dates. User must be able to configure the conditions:
-GPS coordinates
-Time from 0-100% of Sunrise and from 100%to0% of Sunset
-Date of simulation.

For example:
-One room could be running lights emulating the sun in YEMEN in 3rd august, calculating the sunrise and sunset for that GPS coordinates and that date.
-While another room could be running lights emulation sun in South Italy on 3th september.

There are 16 different spaces.

I can perform almost all the tasks with timers, pasts, offsets and astronomical clock... but I've not a clear way of programming two spaces running at different dates just using one TOD$.
I may create a simpl+ module that modifies TOD$ creating several TOD$s based on days/months delay... any better idea? It's my only clue for the moment.

Thanks for your advices ;)
Re: Serial control using a USB port

Witmarquzot
 

I have the radio shack one and the keyspan. I like the keyspan more, but the radio shack one comes with a 6 foot cord and can mate directly to most devices, which makes it ideal for most setups when you just need to set up the ethernet.

For doing debug via serial, use the keyspan. The radio shack one does not like to have large amounts of data passing through it all the time.


Also, you may want to look into the Crestron usb ir learner and the Engo one. I have not tried either, but have heard nothing bad about the Engo one.

--- In Crestron@..., "mm24all" <martinp@...> wrote:

Have been using Tripp Lite Keyspan unit

with a Dell Precision M4400.

--- In Crestron@..., "Brendan McAlpine" <brendan@> wrote:

Works a treat!


--- In Crestron@..., "jfa_crestron" jfa_crestron@ wrote:

Can someone recommend which USB serial adaptor to purchase that will
work with the CNXLIR Learner? I have a new HP desktop and can't find a
9 pin serial card that connects with this computer.
Re: Serial control using a USB port

 

Have been using Tripp Lite Keyspan unit

with a Dell Precision M4400.

--- In Crestron@..., "Brendan McAlpine" <brendan@...> wrote:

Works a treat!


--- In Crestron@..., "jfa_crestron" jfa_crestron@ wrote:

Can someone recommend which USB serial adaptor to purchase that will
work with the CNXLIR Learner? I have a new HP desktop and can't find a
9 pin serial card that connects with this computer.
Re: Sort of OT: Seamless WiFi roaming?

jgreenink16
 

I've put in a Pakedge microcell network with 3 waps (not a huge system, I'll admit), but it's incredibly stable. I can download a file continuously while walking from corner to corner of the place with some pretty bad interference from neighboring wifi. I haven't heard a single complaint about iPad connections, but I didn't do the crestron program there, just the network. I assume it's pretty good based on my laptop testing.

You set it up via the controller once, but yes, the waps show up on different channels with the same SSID if you do a wifi scan.

I've also seen some Netgear stuff advertise wireless management and they have a controller to go with it, but I can only imagine the pita the setup might be. The Pakedge setup is relatively simple and their tech support is really good.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@...> wrote:

I guess this isn't really OT since networking and WiFi seems to be half of what we all do these days...

I'm looking for a wireless system (WAPs and controller) that can solve the "sticky WAP" syndrome where a wireless device will hang on to a weak WAP until it has totally lost signal before moving to a new, stronger WAP.

It seems that most of the controllers out there, like Ruckus and others, make configuring an array of WAPs much easier, potentially even automatic, but they still appear as individual WAPs to the client, setup on different channels with the same SSID. Am I correct?

The only thing I have come across that claims to solve this problem is from Meru (and Pakedge, which appears to re-badge the Meru product) with their "Virtual Cell" technology, but I haven't used either system yet. Does anyone have any experience with the Meru or Pakedge controllers, or is there something else out there that works like it?

Thanks,

-David
Re: Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.

 

Yes, use S+ to modify the TOD string sent to any room not using local time/date.
I鈥檝e done this and it works great.

Tray

==


From: javiermazon_com
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:39 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Multiple running clocks and dates in the same system.


Hi!

I'm programming a system that has some special needs. User need to be able to simulate light scenarios of different GPS positions and dates. User must be able to configure the conditions:
-GPS coordinates
-Time from 0-100% of Sunrise and from 100%to0% of Sunset
-Date of simulation.

For example:
-One room could be running lights emulating the sun in YEMEN in 3rd august, calculating the sunrise and sunset for that GPS coordinates and that date.
-While another room could be running lights emulation sun in South Italy on 3th september.

There are 16 different spaces.

I can perform almost all the tasks with timers, pasts, offsets and astronomical clock... but I've not a clear way of programming two spaces running at different dates just using one TOD$.
I may create a simpl+ module that modifies TOD$ creating several TOD$s based on days/months delay... any better idea? It's my only clue for the moment.

Thanks for your advices ;)





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Re: Off Topic - killing laptops - any advice?

 

use smcFanControl on the mac and crank the fans up to get rid of the heat.

run "Repair Disk Permissions" using Disk Utility on the mac, you would be
surprised at the weird problems that will fix.



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:42 AM, oldspunky <paul@...>wrote:

**


For the past 5 or 6 years the laptops I use for program development have
been dying (about 1 a year). I have tried Toshiba, Lenovo, HP, and
Panasonic Toughbooks. So this time I tried a Mac Powerbook (with VMware
Fusion and Windows 7. Now the Mac is getting clunky too.

I am probably overloading them, but when I have several copies of Simpl
Windows, Vtpro-e, Autocad, xpanel, Toolbox, and probably a Clearone or
Biamp configuration file (and perhaps Photoshop) all open at the same time
the laptops get pretty hot. Unfortunately I usually need all those things
when working on a program or bringing up a system.

I do a lot of my programming on the road so using a desktop is probably
not an option.

I have been using Radioshack fans and they seem to help, but my Mac is
still getting hot enough to fry eggs or my hands. Any ideas? Or should I
just accept this and budget a new laptop (and software) every year or so.?

Thanks,
Paul



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Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment

jgreenink16
 

I was about to call hogwash on that, but as it turns out, my disconnect_all actually connects to DiscFromC. I find that one very handy, and probably the one he wants. I find that much easier than trying to remember which device was connected previously.

--- In Crestron@..., "Witmarquzot" <tdurrant420@...> wrote:

Your welcome.

I think almost everyone in the group has gone through that problem(or similar).
Also, the InUse signal does not always stay high, it has a tendency to go low for a couple of waves(at least in my experience) when connecting a new controller to an equipment cross point. I use a ROS and an AND to make sure that it stays high until the inuse has gone low for X seconds.

I doubt you will need this info, but stay away from DiscAll. It will reek nothing but havoc on a system. Good if you want to break the system, but I have yet to find a good use for it.

--- In Crestron@..., Tim F <tsfauser@> wrote:

Thanks,

I was doing Disc EC.脗听 I figured it would reset everything before reconnecting.脗听 1, to 101.脗听



________________________________
From: Witmarquzot <tdurrant420@>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:03 PM
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Cross Point connected to multiple Equipment


脗听
If you are using Disconnect only, it only Disconnects the numbers it the equipment/controller values.
For EX:
E:100
C:1
Disconnect
Connect
Disconnects E100 and C1
Then connects E100 and C1

If you use DiscFromC it will disconnect all the equipment from the selected controller. This should give you the result you are looking for.

For Ex:
E:101
C:1
DiscFromC
Connect
Disconnect all Equipment from C1
Then connect E101 and C1

--- In Crestron@..., "timfauser" <tsfauser@> wrote:

Trying to get a better grasp on cross points by testing on my home system (fyi, wife is annoyed).

I have my equipment connection routing going into a Serial/ Analog One Shot that has disconnect running running on the out and connect on the out*.

Somehow when I connect to Equipment crosspoint 101d, and press join 45 on Control crosspoint 1d, I see the signal come out Equipment cross point 100d (was connected to) AND 101d. If I reboot the processor it will only come out the first I connect to, but it never seems to loose connection when I try to move to a different piece of gear.

How is this possible, and what am I missing. Quickly my wife is looking for the granite rolling pin.

Thanks
Tim F



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C2N-TFM Showing up as "UNSUPPORTED DEVICE"

 

I am setting up the network on a system I'm about to upload to. Running through the devices when discovering, it pulls up an error for the C2N-TFM. It says "Unsupported Device". It will let me keep going, but any idea what this means?

The processor is a CP2E and I am programming this system in SB.
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