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Re: Help with Homevision

 

For the purposes of getting this going, a SerialIO symbol with an input tied
directly to your touchpanel should suffice.

My guess is that you have the serial port on the ST-CP configured to the
wrong baud rate (or other parameters) OR that the serial cable you're using
to connect the ST-CP to the HomeVision is wired incorrectly.

Take HomeVision out of the equation - get the ST-CP sending strings to
Terminal Emulator (set the same way it was when you used it to connect to
HomeVision). Once you have that working, you should be able to connect that
cable to your HomeVision controller and get the results you're looking for.
--
Geoffrey Reynolds

----- Original Message -----
From: "goldengot" <goldengot@...>
To: <Crestron@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: [Crestron] Help with Homevision


I can't seem to figure this one out. I am trying to use HV and an
old ST-CP to control x-10 lights in a particular room. I created a
simple SIO that maps back to a homevision controller with the ASCII
string 'lights' in str1 which is tied directly to the touchpanel.
So in theory when the user pressed the hv_light button it sends a
string through the serial into the home vision. The home vision has
been configured to accept any text over 1 character (testing
purposes). When the button is pressed, nothing happens. It works
within the terminal emulator, but not connected to the st-cp. There
was a post by Geoffrey Reynolds detailing how to do this (see below)
The homevision part works just fine but the Crestron piece is
another question. It appears to be sending hex through the serial
and not ASCII. If anyone has had any experience in setting up
Crestron alongside Homevision, please detail your exact steps (i.e.
which mods were used if any, which analog or digital symbols,
strings that were used, if you had to convert using HEX, which baud
rate is used on the serial driver, etc. In other words, any
information that you can give me that would make my life easier.
TIA



In HomeVision:

From the main menu, select Objects/Events -> Serial Data Input ->
Port1
(substitute Port2, Port3, etc. as appropriate for your situation)

This will give you a window where you can program HomeVision to
respond to
events on a serial port.

Next, configure the logic that will handle serial events by, for
example,
setting up a series of If - Then - End If statements. Start by
clicking the
If Then button in the ACTIONS toolbar. Next, the ACTIONS toolbar
switches
to the CONDITIONS toolbar. Now, select the SERIAL button. I've found
the
most useful condition to be "Serial input characters # through # are
:'____' - this lets you listen for a specific string to come from the
Crestron controller. Now enter the string you want and press OK. Now
click
on End If and the toolbar switches back to ACTIONS. Click X10 and
choose
the X10 action you want to perform. That's all you need to do on the
HomeVision side. It sounds a bit clunky (and is), but is pretty easy
to use
and will work very reliably once you have it programmed.

Now just program your Crestron program to send the appropriate
strings
terminated with &#92;n. HomeVision has default support for it's OSD
remote
control commands, so some strings are reserved:

,J0&#92;n = 0
,J1&#92;n = 1
...
,J9&#92;n = 9
,JA&#92;n = Enter
,JB&#92;n = Channel Up
,JC&#92;n = Channel Down
,JD&#92;n = Volume Up
,JE&#92;n = Volume Down
,JF&#92;n = Cancel


Re: Control of PC program from Crestron system

 

From: "Michael Juhasz" <michael.juhasz@...>

I am someone who provides live music PA and recording systems to
individual
clients. My expertise is in audio and not controls. Nonetheless, many of
my
clients have sophisticated Crestron systems designed and installed by
others,
and they are beginning to want some access to my systems through their
Crestron wireless panels so I will regularly hire Crestron programmers to
supply
this feature.

The challenge is that my recording system is all PC software driven (Adobe
Audition is my typical platform). Most of the commands I need to invoke
are
accessible via keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl-R, for example, starts the
recording).

<snip>

The Crestron programmers that I have spoken to tell me there is no way for
Crestron to send commands to a PC that invoke keyboard shortcuts like
described above. It's so hard for me to believe that, so before I go in a
different
direction and hire someone to just write a local interface on the PC,
I've decided
to post here to confirm once and for all if there is a way to do this or
not.

The programmers you have spoken with are mistaken. Crestron has a Cresnet
device called the CNMK (M = Mouse, K = Keyboard), which is a mouse /
keyboard wedge that you connect to the PC's PS2 mouse and keyboard ports.
The keyboard and mouse then plug into the CNMK. By using this device, the
Crestron program can emulate any keyboard command and mouse commands.
Programming the CNMK is pretty easy.

There are lots of other possible solutions, which include:

1) IR wireless keyboard - use a Crestron CNXLIR to learn the IR commands and
stick a Crestron IR emitter to the IR receiver that came with the keyboard.
2) Run a program like Girder on the PC then connect the Crestron controller
to the PC with a serial or network cable. Girder can receive commands from
the Crestron controller and convert them to whatever keyboard command you
would like.
3) Use the Microsoft Serialkeys program
().

There are probably lots of other ways to accomplish what you want - the 4
options I listed are the ones that came immediately to me.
--
Geoffrey Reynolds


Control of PC program from Crestron system

Michael Juhasz
 

Hello,

I am someone who provides live music PA and recording systems to individual clients. My expertise is in audio and not controls. Nonetheless, many of my clients have sophisticated Crestron systems designed and installed by others, and they are beginning to want some access to my systems through their Crestron wireless panels so I will regularly hire Crestron programmers to supply this feature.

The challenge is that my recording system is all PC software driven (Adobe Audition is my typical platform). Most of the commands I need to invoke are accessible via keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl-R, for example, starts the recording).

I obviously don't want to give my clients full access to the PC program, but rather have a user interface custom designed either at the PC screen or on the Crestron panel that creates something like a Kiosk Mode, where they can only invoke the commands that I want them to.

The Crestron programmers that I have spoken to tell me there is no way for Crestron to send commands to a PC that invoke keyboard shortcuts like described above. It's so hard for me to believe that, so before I go in a different direction and hire someone to just write a local interface on the PC, I've decided to post here to confirm once and for all if there is a way to do this or not.

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: MT1000 and Vista

 

I have used both MX-3000s and MT-1000s using the USB Sync driver.

windows.html

--- In Crestron@..., "Nathan Hesson" <nhesson@...> wrote:

Why would you ever take the XP hard disk out of your laptop?

Sorry, to easy to take cheap shots at Vista

Have a GREAT! friday
Nathan

On Jan 11, 2008 11:20 AM, daledsm <daledsm@...> wrote:


I don't know if this will work for you, but it worked for me with
Vista Business and Mobile Device Center 6.1. All I did was change
the
driver of the MT-1000c to a standard Microsoft USB Sync driver
and it
works 100%.

Dale


--- In Crestron@... <Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>,
"matthew3228" <mndean@> wrote:

Anyone managed to come up with a solution to this issue? TB
reckon they
are 'looking into what can be done', but I am getting tired of
popping
an XP hard-disk into my laptop every time I need to download
one!!!



--
Nathan Hesson

Crestron Certified Programmer

Interior Systems Design, Inc.

nathanh@...


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: ST-Tune(s) worthless in one year?

 

--- In Crestron@..., "WhereIsMyElCamino" <crestron@...>
wrote:


Apparently, Comcast will drop analog feeds on their cable as soon as
the OTA signals are dropped. According to them, that is where they get
the analog signals, and they have no intent of D/A conversion to keep
the analog signals on cable.

If this is the case, I will just have a fancy AM/FM tuner.

Todd
CATV is being pushed as the only remaining source of NTSC signals after
2009.

Cable companies are, however, needing to compress and encrypt NTSC
analog signals to free up more spectrum in their cable plants for HDTV
channels. As a bonus, encryption allows them to add and remove
services (plus pay-per view) without truck rolls.

So, your new Comtastic standard def signals will need a cablecard
decoder and contain new block-shaped compression artifacts so they can
fit more HD channels in the same limited bandwidth.

Don't fight it. Just switch to DirecTV.


Updating firmware in CNSX Brain Processors

 

I've seen a lot of chatter about loosing CNSX brains after trying to
update the firmware. I to have lost a few but was able to get them back
and had a process for updating the Brains. U need to follow a stricked
procedure and they will work fine. Contact me and I can walk U through
it.


ST-Tune(s) worthless in one year?

 

Apparently, Comcast will drop analog feeds on their cable as soon as
the OTA signals are dropped. According to them, that is where they get
the analog signals, and they have no intent of D/A conversion to keep
the analog signals on cable.

If this is the case, I will just have a fancy AM/FM tuner.

Todd


Re: Hiring Crestron Programmer in Nashville, TN

Gerry Chappell
 

--- In Crestron@..., "sandman_ave" <alex@...> wrote:

I'm looking to hire a programmer in the nashville area or someone
willing to relocate, the compensation will be based on skill. If
anyone is interested please raise your hand :-)
I am currently doing a lot of work in TN. Contact me off of the group
at gchappell35622@...
Thanks


Re: Napco Gemini X225 Question

 

That is correct, I just did a Napco about three weeks ago and it will
entry Interior mode if you leave the Entry/Exit doors alone during the
delay.

Ross

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Golden <mrgolden@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:21 pm
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Napco Gemini X225 Question






It's been a while since I've done one, but most Napco panels could be
configured to do this automatically. If the panel is armed to Away
mode, but no Entry/Exit doors are opened during the delay, it will
automatically switch to "Interior" mode.

The security contractor, or Napco's tech support, should be able to
confirm it...

--- In Crestron@..., "osiris_matt" <mattbelanger@...> wrote:

There is a button on the Napco keypads called "Interior" which arms
the perimeter but not the internal motions. Is there a serial command
to emulate this button? Anyone have a protocol manual kicking around?

I am using the Crestron module which works fine but it doesn't have
the Interior featue. I tried to manually bypass all the internal
motions but there are so many of them that its pretty slow waiting
for the feedback from the Napco system and seems a bit dodgy...

Any help is will be appreciated..

Thanks
Matt




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Re: multiple touchpanels

 

If I understand what you're saying correctly even using new joins would not
solve your problem. You need to use different signal names through buffers
to drive the same end result so that other then the end control device the
logic is identical but with different signal names. For example
TP-A_VOL_UP, would drive a buffer enabled with a 1 and on the output put the
device volume, REC_VOL_UP. The feeback to the panel would be The
TP-A_VOL_UP. This will sperate out the logic so yo don't see different
zones driving logic on different panels. Also you can quickly make the new
logic for the other 2 panels by copying the folder and then using Search and
Replace which is the F9 key. Hope that kind of points you in the right
direction.

Mark

On Jan 12, 2008 7:14 AM, Nightcountry <patrickbedford@...> wrote:

Hoping someone can help - have multiple touchpanels ( 2x stx1700c and a
tps4-l )with a mc2e processor...same program in all three and I find
they interfere with each other - volume ramps up inexplicably etc...
short of doing an individual program for all three with different join
numbers is there any way to separate the panels from each other? ie
in one zone someone engages a volume interlock and that same interlock
is now engaged for all zones....



Re: slow performance DirecTV HR21 RS232

topher1200s
 

Never tried controlling one RS232 but I installed one yesterday, a
HR21-700 and I am getting double hits on almost every command. I am
using the good Master IR file found here in the file section, never
had a problem with it before. Not sure whats going on. Maybe I'll
try it your way. Even if it is slow, it works. :)

--- In Crestron@..., "Casey Benjamin" <casey@...> wrote:

I have a DirecTV HR21 being controlled with the DirecTV Control
Module.zip using a USB to RS232 adaptor. It is extremely slow but
never seems to miss a command.

Has anyone else experienced this? Should I try IR instead?


multiple touchpanels

Nightcountry
 

Hoping someone can help - have multiple touchpanels ( 2x stx1700c and a
tps4-l )with a mc2e processor...same program in all three and I find
they interfere with each other - volume ramps up inexplicably etc...
short of doing an individual program for all three with different join
numbers is there any way to separate the panels from each other? ie
in one zone someone engages a volume interlock and that same interlock
is now engaged for all zones....


Re: "Party Mode" - Serial/Analog signals slowing network

 

Probably the best method would be to only connect the touchpanel
Crosspoints when a source is selected from that particular
touchpanel - not when activated by Party Mode. That way, the
touchpanels would only receive the data if they were already on the
iPod page, or if they switched to the iPod page after Party Mode is
initiated.

However, that's not how I set mine up. If a zone is switched to a
source by *any* method (another TP, remote, Party Mode, etc.), any
touchpanel(s) connected to that zone will also be connected to the
source, and flip to the control page. I haven't encountered any
serious delays (or at least, no complaints), but if necessary, some
type of "Please Wait" message could be displayed while the Party Mode
is initiating.

The Broadcast symbol would be a good solution, but updating doesn't
seem to be as reliable. I also wish there was a version with joins
higher than 127, although that can be done with code, if necessary.
You're not *supposed* to have the same signals connected to the
touchpanel(s) and a Broadcast symbol at the same time, but I've never
actually tried it.

--- In Crestron@..., "nick.dietz" <nick@...> wrote:

It seems that @ jobs with lots of panels when put into a "party
mode"
either the cresnet or processor gets bogged down.

This is because each TP's Control Xpoint connects to the Equip
Xpoint
and the feedback signals have to get routed to each TP. Example
[Analog signal iPod1_Time gets sent to each panel : TP1_iPod1_Time,
TP2_iPod1_Time, TP3_iPod1_Time, etc. . .].

I am looking for a way to send 1 signal name to each touchpanel when
put into party mode, while using the same digital/analog/serial join
numbers to avoid creating separate subpages specifically for this
mode.

I was thinking along the lines of the Indirect Text Broadcast
symbol,
if only you could control which ID's to broadcast to?

--Nick


Re: Econtrol n Qualcomm processor?

 

I've used it successfully on a few Treo's running WM5 and WM6, so it
should also work on the HTC...

--- In Crestron@..., "Dan" <danotterdahl@...> wrote:

Can anyone confirm whether or not econtrol PDA will run on an HTC
Touch Dual PDA phone? It runs Windows Mobile 6 on a Qualcomm MSM 7200
processor. Are we still limited to Armstrong and Xscale processors?
Thanks!


Re: Problem with NEC PX-60RX5A plasma

 

The installers didn't connect pins 7 and 8. Although everything
works fine with only 2, 3, and 5 on the other model plasmas there,
I'll have them try it with extra pins Monday.

Thanks!

--- In Crestron@..., "discodan_aus" <daniel@...> wrote:

I have had some weird issues of late too with NEC panels however
nothing like what you have stated. I noticed that after the 3 series
that the RS232 connection had to be a complete cross-over cable
arrangement with pins 2,3,4,5,6,7,8 all needing connection before it
would respond. I never had to had such pins all terminated in a
cable
pre the 4 series.

I also experienced a situation where a particular unit a 50XR5M had
an
issue where if a power on command was sent back to it within 2
seconds
of its response code - the unit would stop responding and a complete
reset (power disconnect and 30 second wait) would resolve this.

If you have this all right above and have tried a full reset I feel
you have a NEC problem.

I'll post a module online in the morning that has been working very
well for me.

Good luck.


Re: PELCO D driver for an PELCO 6700 Matrix

 

I just uploaded a manual for the CM6700 that contains the RS-232
protocol. I'm not sure if it also responds to the D protocol, or not,
but the one in the manual is pretty simple. I just put the commands in
a Serial I/O.

--- In Crestron@..., "mickyk1971" <mickyk1971@...> wrote:

Need a driver for a PELCO 6700 Matrix.
Anyone can help out?
Is there a PELCO D protocol available for Matrix control?

Thanks
Micky


New file uploaded to Crestron

 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Crestron
group.

File : /Documents/Pelco_CM6700.zip
Uploaded by : tgoldensr <mrgolden@...>
Description : Pelco CM6700 manual, with serial protocol

You can access this file at the URL:


To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:


Regards,

tgoldensr <mrgolden@...>


Re: OT: looking for a PAL to NTSC converter

 

Joe

While working on yachts and multi TV standards, I've had to used numerous
devices, unfortunately all the good reliable ones are not cheap. I really
think you will be pushed even to get a cheap one under a $100.

In the UK the following link are the products I've used with great success.



Not Cheap though

Sorry I have nothing else to offer


Iain

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Joseph K. Vossen
Sent: 11 January 2008 23:07
To: crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] OT: looking for a PAL to NTSC converter

I have a client who has a bunch of games for the PS2 that generate video
output in PAL format only. He wants to play these and display the output on

a TV; anyone know of an inexpensive (under $100) that can do this (PAL ->
NTSC) conversion? My searching doesn't come up with anything that fits.

thanks


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Help with Homevision

goldengot
 

I can't seem to figure this one out. I am trying to use HV and an
old ST-CP to control x-10 lights in a particular room. I created a
simple SIO that maps back to a homevision controller with the ASCII
string 'lights' in str1 which is tied directly to the touchpanel.
So in theory when the user pressed the hv_light button it sends a
string through the serial into the home vision. The home vision has
been configured to accept any text over 1 character (testing
purposes). When the button is pressed, nothing happens. It works
within the terminal emulator, but not connected to the st-cp. There
was a post by Geoffrey Reynolds detailing how to do this (see below)
The homevision part works just fine but the Crestron piece is
another question. It appears to be sending hex through the serial
and not ASCII. If anyone has had any experience in setting up
Crestron alongside Homevision, please detail your exact steps (i.e.
which mods were used if any, which analog or digital symbols,
strings that were used, if you had to convert using HEX, which baud
rate is used on the serial driver, etc. In other words, any
information that you can give me that would make my life easier.
TIA



In HomeVision:

From the main menu, select Objects/Events -> Serial Data Input ->
Port1
(substitute Port2, Port3, etc. as appropriate for your situation)

This will give you a window where you can program HomeVision to
respond to
events on a serial port.

Next, configure the logic that will handle serial events by, for
example,
setting up a series of If - Then - End If statements. Start by
clicking the
If Then button in the ACTIONS toolbar. Next, the ACTIONS toolbar
switches
to the CONDITIONS toolbar. Now, select the SERIAL button. I've found
the
most useful condition to be "Serial input characters # through # are
:'____' - this lets you listen for a specific string to come from the
Crestron controller. Now enter the string you want and press OK. Now
click
on End If and the toolbar switches back to ACTIONS. Click X10 and
choose
the X10 action you want to perform. That's all you need to do on the
HomeVision side. It sounds a bit clunky (and is), but is pretty easy
to use
and will work very reliably once you have it programmed.

Now just program your Crestron program to send the appropriate
strings
terminated with &#92;n. HomeVision has default support for it's OSD
remote
control commands, so some strings are reserved:

,J0&#92;n = 0
,J1&#92;n = 1
...
,J9&#92;n = 9
,JA&#92;n = Enter
,JB&#92;n = Channel Up
,JC&#92;n = Channel Down
,JD&#92;n = Volume Up
,JE&#92;n = Volume Down
,JF&#92;n = Cancel


Panasonic KX-TDA100 Teleintercom System

 

Hi

Did anyone integrate with panasonic?
I have a KX-TDA100 system.
Is it possible to control it?

Thanks
Micky