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Re: Lutron HomeWorks RF module?
Joseph K. Vossen
I've got several that work; I'll post them this week-end.
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On Friday 11 January 2008 08:44 pm, you wrote:
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Lutron HomeWorks RF module?
Hello,
We're doing our first HomeWorks RF job and find that there is no Crestron module that will work. The ones in SIMPL and in the files area here do not work for phantom keypad button presses or feedback. In looking at the RS-232 protocol, the HomeWorks RF processor is looking for the KBP command to have an extra "Device Type" parameter. A HomeWorks wired processor will take a command such as: KBP, [01:04:10], 1 This is processor 1, link 4, kp address 10, button 1 A HomeWorks RF processor needs a command formatted as: KBP, [01:08:02:10], 1 This is processor 1, link 8, device type 2, kp address 10, button 1 All of the modules we've tried do NOT allow the device type to be included in the command string. The feedback that Lutron provides also has this device type. Does anyone have a module that works for a HomeWorks RF processor? We've temporarily created one-way strings to activate the scenes but two-way needs to work soon! We're not yet good at creating our own modules or parsing serial strings to extract the proper feedback. Thanks, George |
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Re: Remove debug from console?
lunarteq
Once again, fooguy brings the foo to its knees. Thanks
Geez... its RIGHT There and all this time I never even bothered to see what it does. ChipG --- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote: information to the console? the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Remove debug from console?
If you are using toolbox, you can open up a secondary console (you
have to choose that as your connection type). Viewport, just open it up and connect - it automatically uses a new socket (toolbox tries to do everything on one, and splits it off as virtual consoles - however, you get the side consequence that all the simple debugger data spills out on you!) Or open up a console to port 23. By the act of it being a "differnt" console, you won't get the Simple debugger data. (if you're on a processor w/just RS-232, then you're sunk.) --- In Crestron@..., "Jeremy Weatherford" <xidus.net@...> wrote:
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OT: looking for a PAL to NTSC converter
Joseph K. Vossen
I have a client who has a bunch of games for the PS2 that generate video
output in PAL format only. He wants to play these and display the output on a TV; anyone know of an inexpensive (under $100) that can do this (PAL -> NTSC) conversion? My searching doesn't come up with anything that fits. thanks |
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Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
From: "Rodney Young" <rodney_james_young@...>
I got that CNX card off ebay for $46 total. From this, I thoughtWell, if you're patient, a CAGE2 will show up on ebay sooner or later (a new one sold for $112.50 a week or so back) - it might include an AV2, in which case you'll have a pair of AV2's or could resell on of them. Otherwise, you're into this for such short money, that it shouldn't be THAT painful to cough up the money for the CAGE2. Another option is to watch out for a PRO2 on ebay. Also keep an eye out here - some of the dealers sell some of the overstock items for reasonable prices once in a while. You're not likely to find a lot of sympathy for having to pay for the hardware on this list - the majority of the members are dealers (or work with/for dealers) and sell the hardware as part of their revenue stream. If you want to get the equipment for less than full retail, you need to shop ebay, become a dealer, or come up with a mutually beneficial relationship with a dealer. -- Geoffrey Reynolds |
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Re: Remove debug from console?
Jeremy Weatherford
I don't think there's a way to do that. If you're using Print()
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statements from SIMPL+, they'll always show on the console. If you're actually seeing trace information, try closing SIMPL Debugger. Sometimes that bleeds into the console. Otherwise, use a terminal emulator with line editing so you can enter your command without worrying about output scrolling by. MUD clients are good at this... try SimpleMU for instance, tell it to connect to your processor's IP at port 23. Jeremy On Jan 11, 2008 3:44 PM, lunarteq <lunartech@...> wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to stop sending the debugger information to --
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Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
Jeremy Weatherford
Hey, at least you get something tangible for your money. I just love
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paying $2000 for a string of letters and digits to "unlock" the functionality of software I already have. On Jan 11, 2008 1:41 AM, Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@...> wrote:
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Re: Am I being taken for a Ride
lunarteq
Yep, that looks about right to me too.
Those IRP2's can be replaced with less expensive non-crestron versions, but the rest is exclusive to Crestron inventory. ChipG --- In Crestron@..., "Mark Delzer" <mdelzer@...> wrote: from it. future upgrades. |
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Re: Am I being taken for a Ride
Looks like US retail pricing to me. Where I work we don't discount from it.
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Mark On Jan 11, 2008 1:54 PM, paul_emberton <pemberton@...> wrote:
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Am I being taken for a Ride
Hi All,
I am looking for any US based dealers who can confirm some pricing for me. Im an end user based in the UK and looking to purchase a couple of components for my existing setup and get an idea of the cost for future upgrades. I had approach a company who provided the following pricing, but it looks way to high, even when compared to UK pricing. 1 x ST-BTPN $150.00 2 x IRP2 $100.00 ($50 each) 1 x C2COM-3 $700.00 1 x TPMC-4X $1,990 1 x TPMC-8X $3,800 thanks Paul |
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Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
I got that CNX card off ebay for $46 total. From this, I thought I would be able to obtain a CAGE2 for a decent price.
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If it turns out I can't find a CAGE2 for a fair price, I will move onto something else as you mention below... To: Crestron@...: lincoln@...: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:30:42 -0800Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? Don't forget that depending on you're fully-loaded labor rate, it couldwind up being cheaper to buy the Pro2 than buy the AV2, Cage2, and thenpay someone to remove all of the screws and install the Cage2 in the AV2then reinstall all of the screws.Not to mention that the Pro2 gives you loads of extras. Under thecatch-all phrase "Front Panel". It's an advertising tool. It's a support tool. It's a status tool. It'sa debugging tool. Back to the original poster, if there's not a cage2 in the processor andthe only reason you'd be installing a cage is for this one card, you'reprobably better off using the network device version. If you're determined to just use volume/tone control, the ST-VC isfunctionally identical to the CNX-VTC3 but it sits on the Cresnetnetwork rather than in a card slot. I'd still suggest going the VEQ4 route [though, full disclosure, mysystem at home has 2 ST-VCs because I picked them up uber cheap], inwhich case the network device is the C2N-VEQ4 (functionally identical tothe C2-VEQ4 card). -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTSApplications EngineerControlWorks Consulting, LLCV: 440-729-4640 F: 440-729-0884 I: Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer-----Original Message-----From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] OnBehalf Of lunarteqSent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:21 PMTo: Crestron@...: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?A small group of us here did some math on this several months back andbasically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage waspretty close to retail of a PRO2.Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over allthe others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it thatway to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage.Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog andbun thing.ChipG--- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote:>> Simple. They're the only ones who make it. Therefore, charge what> you want. Plenty of other companies who do very specialized stuff do> exactly the same.> > > --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@>> wrote:> >> > > > Actually, I have one already that came with the unit. Yes, those> are expensive too; however, at least the Ethernet card has some meat> and potatoes behind it. With the CAGE2, it's just a damn> interconnect. I can't validate how Crestron would charge so much for> so little.> > > > > > > > > > To: Crestron@: cfm@: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:40:36 +0000Subject:> [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?> > > > > > > > > > Heh... You haven't bought an Ethernet card for that AV2 yet,> haveyou? :)- Chip--- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young> <rodney_james_young@>wrote:>> > Does anyone out there have a CAGE2> available for a decent price? Ican't believe how much Crestron charges> for a simple interconnect.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> > Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a realdifference.> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >>Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in theDatabase area. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
Don't forget that depending on you're fully-loaded labor rate, it could
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wind up being cheaper to buy the Pro2 than buy the AV2, Cage2, and then pay someone to remove all of the screws and install the Cage2 in the AV2 then reinstall all of the screws. Not to mention that the Pro2 gives you loads of extras. Under the catch-all phrase "Front Panel". It's an advertising tool. It's a support tool. It's a status tool. It's a debugging tool. Back to the original poster, if there's not a cage2 in the processor and the only reason you'd be installing a cage is for this one card, you're probably better off using the network device version. If you're determined to just use volume/tone control, the ST-VC is functionally identical to the CNX-VTC3 but it sits on the Cresnet network rather than in a card slot. I'd still suggest going the VEQ4 route [though, full disclosure, my system at home has 2 ST-VCs because I picked them up uber cheap], in which case the network device is the C2N-VEQ4 (functionally identical to the C2-VEQ4 card). -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Applications Engineer ControlWorks Consulting, LLC V: 440-729-4640 F: 440-729-0884 I: Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of lunarteq Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:21 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? A small group of us here did some math on this several months back and basically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage was pretty close to retail of a PRO2. Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over all the others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it that way to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage. Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog and bun thing. ChipG --- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote: difference.
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Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
I was able to get an AV2, an RF gateway, and an Ethernet card for $500 total. From that deal, I decided I am going ot learn how to program this stuff. Unfortunately, I still face the gotchas like this CAGE2 part...which limits my learning since it's so hard for me to obtain components.
To: Crestron@...: lunartech@...: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:20:30 +0000Subject: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? A small group of us here did some math on this several months back andbasically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage waspretty close to retail of a PRO2.Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over allthe others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it thatway to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage.Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog andbun thing.ChipG--- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote:>> Simple. They're the only ones who make it. Therefore, charge what> you want. Plenty of other companies who do very specialized stuff do> exactly the same.> > > --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@>> wrote:> >> > > > Actually, I have one already that came with the unit. Yes, those> are expensive too; however, at least the Ethernet card has some meat> and potatoes behind it. With the CAGE2, it's just a damn> interconnect. I can't validate how Crestron would charge so much for> so little.> > > > > > > > > > To: Crestron@: cfm@: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:40:36 +0000Subject:> [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?> > > > > > > > > > Heh... You haven't bought an Ethernet card for that AV2 yet,> haveyou? :)- Chip--- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young> <rodney_james_young@>wrote:>> > Does anyone out there have a CAGE2> available for a decent price? Ican't believe how much Crestron charges> for a simple interconnect.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> > Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a realdifference.> > > > > > > >> _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. |
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Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
lunarteq
A small group of us here did some math on this several months back and
basically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage was pretty close to retail of a PRO2. Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over all the others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it that way to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage. Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog and bun thing. ChipG --- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote: difference.
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Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
Simple. They're the only ones who make it. Therefore, charge what
you want. Plenty of other companies who do very specialized stuff do exactly the same. --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@...> wrote: are expensive too; however, at least the Ethernet card has some meat and potatoes behind it. With the CAGE2, it's just a damn interconnect. I can't validate how Crestron would charge so much for so little. [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? haveyou? :)- Chip--- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@>wrote:>> > Does anyone out there have a CAGE2 available for a decent price? Ican't believe how much Crestron charges for a simple interconnect.>
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Re: VTProE and sending all files, or just changes to touchpanels
I was just at a project that had 6 TPS-15G-QMs, 40 TPS-2000s, and 3
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TPS-G-TPIs in the same room, on the same processor. All of the panels were originally built back in March, save for one of the G-TPIs which was built a month or two ago off a save-as of the 15Gs [Client decided that for one of the positions the 15G had too awkward of a footprint and wanted something on an arm]. During my onsite visit last week, the client wanted button text for one button changed across the 15Gs and one of the TPIs changed. The TPS-G-TPI loaded in 15 seconds. Each of the TPS-15G-QMs loaded in 35 minutes. I think they changed something in the VTZ format a VT Pro version or two ago, and therefore every panel last uploaded before that change gets everything. -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Applications Engineer ControlWorks Consulting, LLC V: 440-729-4640 F: 440-729-0884 I: Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Jeremy Weatherford Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 2:37 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: Re: [Crestron] VTProE and sending all files, or just changes to touchpanels In my experience, it all depends on what happens to the VTZ file (or ZIP file). If you have the VTP file without the VTZ file, VTPro will rebuild it from scratch, and then send the whole panel from scratch. If you move the VTP and VTZ files together (or rename them together, or e-mail them together, etc.), then when you compile your changes, VTPro will update the existing VTZ, and the resulting panel will work with "Send Modified Files Only". If you want to rename or create a new version of a panel, use VTPro's File/Save As... rather than renaming the VTP file. (or rename the VTP and VTZ identically) With that said, I've still seen it decide randomly to send everything, but this works most of the time for me. Jeremy On Jan 10, 2008 11:36 PM, Oliver Pemberton <oliver@...> wrote: I know this has been discussed a bit before but I'm now confused by a** *** Database area. ** *** Yahoo! Groups Links -- Jeremy Weatherford ** *** Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. ** *** Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: VTProE and sending all files, or just changes to touchpanels
Jeremy Weatherford
In my experience, it all depends on what happens to the VTZ file (or
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ZIP file). If you have the VTP file without the VTZ file, VTPro will rebuild it from scratch, and then send the whole panel from scratch. If you move the VTP and VTZ files together (or rename them together, or e-mail them together, etc.), then when you compile your changes, VTPro will update the existing VTZ, and the resulting panel will work with "Send Modified Files Only". If you want to rename or create a new version of a panel, use VTPro's File/Save As... rather than renaming the VTP file. (or rename the VTP and VTZ identically) With that said, I've still seen it decide randomly to send everything, but this works most of the time for me. Jeremy On Jan 10, 2008 11:36 PM, Oliver Pemberton <oliver@...> wrote:
I know this has been discussed a bit before but I'm now confused by a --
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